Re: THANK YOU for flavors!

2017-12-07 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/7/2017 5:43 PM, Stari Karp wrote: On Thu, 2017-12-07 at 07:51 -0500, Baho Utot wrote: On 12/07/17 04:30, Johan Hendriks wrote: Op 07/12/2017 om 00:51 schreef Mel Pilgrim: In the midst of all the negative noise, I thought I'd post and say thank you for bring in this feature. I've been

Re: THANK YOU for flavors!

2017-12-07 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/07/17 08:36, Lars Engels wrote: On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 07:51:15AM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: On 12/07/17 04:30, Johan Hendriks wrote: Op 07/12/2017 om 00:51 schreef Mel Pilgrim: In the midst of all the negative noise, I thought I'd post and say thank you for bring in this feature

Re: THANK YOU for flavors!

2017-12-07 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/07/17 04:30, Johan Hendriks wrote: Op 07/12/2017 om 00:51 schreef Mel Pilgrim: In the midst of all the negative noise, I thought I'd post and say thank you for bring in this feature.  I've been chomping at the bit to try flavours out since I heard about them.  I started flavouring my

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

2017-12-06 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/6/2017 6:36 PM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: On 12/5/2017 2:09 PM, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers Thank you for

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

2017-12-06 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/6/2017 6:40 PM, Mel Pilgrim wrote: On 12/5/2017 2:25 PM, Baho Utot wrote: Thank you for taking a perfectly good system and breaking it as well as making it unusable, unstable. You just don't know of all the countless hours spent after running an update and taking a week to get

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

2017-12-06 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/06/17 08:59, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día miércoles, diciembre 06, 2017 a las 08:26:41a. m. -0500, Baho Utot escribió: For users of third party abandonware, well, they were warned that it was bound to happen at one point, and guess what, it happened. I don't really understand why you

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

2017-12-06 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/06/17 04:53, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 23:25, Baho Utot a écrit : On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the ports collection for normal

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

2017-12-05 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/05/17 17:09, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 05/12/2017 à 10:53, Aryeh Friedman a écrit : TL;DR; Flavors 'ed up ports and there are no good ways/alternates for how to use the ports collection for normal everyday users/maintainers Thank you for supporting all the hard work and countless

Re: Flavors *COMPLETELY* break the port system (synth and poudriere are useless)

2017-12-05 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/05/17 04:53, Aryeh Friedman wrote: First some background (my typical use cases for ports): 0. FreeBSD lilith 11.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE #0 r321664: Fri Jul 28 23:35:18 EDT 2017 root@lilith:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 1. Daily routine (current): cd /usr/src

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-04 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/03/17 20:47, Dennis Glatting wrote: > On Sun, 2017-12-03 at 20:07 +, Steven Hartland wrote: >> People really seem to miss the point that there are only finite >> resources >> and as an open source project that depends on people volunteering >> their >> time to add new features and

Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster?

2017-12-04 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/03/17 19:26, Thomas Mueller wrote: from Baho Utot: I don't use HEAD. I use Quartlery with synth. It is just I expect a little more than amature hour. I was on Archlinux for 10 years and they are very bleeding edge. Almost No breakage in ten years. The only reason I left Linux

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-03 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/3/2017 5:04 PM, Carmel NY wrote: On Sunday, December 3, 2017 3:46 PM, Chris H stated: On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 + "FreeBSD Ports ML" po...@freebsd.org> said On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: Hi

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-03 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/3/2017 3:46 PM, Chris H wrote: On Sat, 2 Dec 2017 11:53:58 + "FreeBSD Ports ML" said On Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:40 AM, Stari Karp stated: > On Sat, 2017-12-02 at 01:12 +, Ben Woods wrote: > > Hi Carmel, > > > > My understanding is that poudriere

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-03 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/3/2017 3:07 PM, Steven Hartland wrote: Come on guys you can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Yes I got caught out by flavours too, but it was quickly fixed and it adds a much needed feature which will make ports and associated tools better at the end of the day. People

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-03 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/3/2017 11:56 AM, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 3 Dec, 2017, at 7:55, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: On 12/02/17 18:31, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-03 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/02/17 18:31, Adam Weinberger wrote: On 2 Dec, 2017, at 13:41, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +, Carmel NY wrote: Looking back at other port management utilities like "

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-02 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/2/2017 1:43 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Dec 02, 2017 at 11:53:58AM +, Carmel NY wrote: Looking back at other port management utilities like "portmanager", "portmaster", "portupgrade" and now "synth", The FreeBSD team has done a pretty good job of obfuscating and rendering them

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-02 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/02/17 07:23, Charlie Li wrote: On 02/12/2017 06:53, Carmel NY wrote: Well, I certainly have no intention of installing and then learning how to use an industrial sized solution line poudriere for a relatively small home network. poudriere is not industrial-sized at all. Sure, it has

Re: Welcome flavors! portmaster now dead? synth?

2017-12-02 Thread Baho Utot
On 12/02/17 07:04, Vlad K. wrote: On 2017-12-02 12:53, Carmel NY wrote: I am hoping that  someone can get "synth" back up and working correctly. If not it might be time for me to look at another OS for my network. This has been mentioned several times as a "solution", but I really

Re: Firefox (Doesn't) Build

2017-11-12 Thread Baho Utot
On 11/12/17 06:03, Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 12/11/2017 07:14, Jonathan Chen wrote: On 12 November 2017 at 12:16, Patrick Dorion wrote: What's the difference between using Poudriere or Synth, though? This is a clean system, I can't imagine a jail being cleaner...

Re: Firefox became much slower

2017-11-01 Thread Baho Utot
On 11/01/17 07:40, Guido Falsi wrote: On 11/01/2017 12:15, Baho Utot wrote: On 11/01/17 02:07, Gleb Popov wrote: Hello. I'm using Firefox on quite ancient machine (amd64, though) and after updating from firefox-56.0.1_3 to 56.0.2_3,1 it has become much more sluggish - whole UI hangs

Re: Firefox became much slower

2017-11-01 Thread Baho Utot
On 11/01/17 02:07, Gleb Popov wrote: Hello. I'm using Firefox on quite ancient machine (amd64, though) and after updating from firefox-56.0.1_3 to 56.0.2_3,1 it has become much more sluggish - whole UI hangs during page loading, scrolling isn't smooth anymore. Anyone also see this?

Re: vim language bindings

2017-10-13 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/13/17 12:21, Adam Weinberger wrote: Hello, I'm trying to get a feel for how many people utilize utilize vim's language bindings. Note that this does NOT include syntax highlighting, indenting, or anything related to editing language-specific files. This is calling external scripting

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/05/17 16:27, Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 05/10/2017 19:54, Baho Utot wrote: On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: Here's my take on that. The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg system. [putolin

Re: portmaster, portupgrade, etc

2017-10-05 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/04/17 16:39, Ernie Luzar wrote: Here's my take on that. The future direction has already been decided by the FreeBSD leaders 2 years ago with their development of a better pkg system. [putolin] Don't let the few old school die hearts who are afraid of any change and make the

Re: Poudreiere auto-track quarterly ports?

2017-09-05 Thread Baho Utot
On 09/04/17 21:50, Dan Mahoney wrote: Hey there All, Is there an easy way to have poudriere auto-track the latest quarterly ports build tree, without having to manually reset it to a specific branch? Poudriere knows how to portsnap the latest ports/head, but not the latest quarterly.

Re: synth: Error opening terminal: xterm

2017-07-12 Thread Baho Utot
On 7/12/2017 7:59 AM, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: I'm starting using synth, never used it before. I get this error: # synth build net/mpich Error opening terminal: xterm. as a regular user open xterm then do the fololwing su - synth just-build /net/mpich or if you have doas and doas configured

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/23/17 10:30, Guido Falsi wrote: On 06/23/17 15:11, Baho Utot wrote: On 06/23/17 04:53, Guido Falsi wrote: On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if somehow

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/23/17 04:53, Guido Falsi wrote: On 06/23/17 10:26, demelier.da...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 11:57 -0700, Dave Hayes wrote: Would you agree that release branches would be unnecessary if somehow you could select the version of node that the ports tree builds via some (as yet

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-23 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/23/17 07:48, RW via freebsd-ports wrote: On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 22:03:35 -0400 Baho Utot wrote: The pre-compiled packages is what drove me to build the entire system as it gave me a broken system that would not work and upon getting it to function would/**/spontaneous reboot. My hand

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-22 Thread Baho Utot
On 6/22/2017 8:31 PM, Grzegorz Junka wrote: On 22/06/2017 23:16, Baho Utot wrote: On 6/22/2017 6:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15: [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon <lini...@lonesome.com> wrote: On Thu, Jun 22

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-22 Thread Baho Utot
On 6/22/2017 6:36 PM, Miroslav Lachman wrote: scratch65...@att.net wrote on 2017/06/23 00:15: [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:11:26 -0500, Mark Linimon wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 12:32:45PM -0400, scratch65...@att.net wrote: My problem is that my industry

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-22 Thread Baho Utot
On 6/22/2017 11:30 AM, Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote: On 22.06.2017 21:26, Baho Utot wrote: On 6/22/2017 10:03 AM, scratch65...@att.net wrote: [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin <b...@freebsd.org> wrote: As usual with such proposal, where do you find the ma

Re: [RFC] Why FreeBSD ports should have branches by OS version

2017-06-22 Thread Baho Utot
On 6/22/2017 10:03 AM, scratch65...@att.net wrote: [Default] On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 14:18:56 +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: As usual with such proposal, where do you find the manpower to handle the number of branches required (the quarterly branches are already hard to

Re: Unable to update repository Synth

2017-06-10 Thread Baho Utot
On 06/10/17 17:29, Jonathan Chen wrote: On 11 June 2017 at 01:13, Bob Willcox wrote: On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:14:46AM +1200, Jonathan Chen wrote: On 10 June 2017 at 05:02, Bob Willcox wrote: I am running the drm-next-4.7 and when I ran synth recently on

Re: svnlite barfing when updating from repo

2017-06-04 Thread Baho Utot
date as I use rsync to copy it to a directory just for synth use. This repo only gets changed bu svnlite. This is quite aggravating as it it always multiple directories that have this issue. On Sun, 4 Jun 2017, Baho Utot wrote: when I am update my ports repo like this svnl

svnlite barfing when updating from repo

2017-06-04 Thread Baho Utot
when I am update my ports repo like this svnlite co "https://svn.freebsd.org/ports/head; "/usr/src/ports" svn: E155009: Failed to run the WC DB work queue associated with '/usr/home/FreeBSD/source/ports/head/net-im/mastodon/files', work item 132774 (file-remove

Re: mesa libs issue

2017-05-14 Thread Baho Utot
On 5/14/2017 8:03 AM, Walter Schwarzenfeld wrote: > Your source ports are broken No! It is only needed remove libEGL, libGL, libglapi, gbm and libgelsv2 and dri with pkg delete -f. And recompile all ports of the output of pkg info -r mesa-libs. He did not have libEGL in his ports

Re: mesa libs issue

2017-05-14 Thread Baho Utot
On 5/14/2017 7:38 AM, The Doctor wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 08:50:15PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: On 05/13/17 20:29, The Doctor wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 08:13:14PM -0400, j...@ohlste.in wrote: Hello, On 05/13/2017 07:54 PM, The Doctor wrote: > Compressing man pages (compr

Re: mesa libs issue

2017-05-13 Thread Baho Utot
On 05/13/17 20:29, The Doctor wrote: On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 08:13:14PM -0400, j...@ohlste.in wrote: Hello, On 05/13/2017 07:54 PM, The Doctor wrote: > Compressing man pages (compress-man) ===>>> Starting check for runtime dependencies ===>>> Gathering dependency list for

Re: Is pkg quarterly really needed?

2017-04-20 Thread Baho Utot
On 04/20/17 07:29, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 13:04, Julian Elischer a écrit : On 20/4/17 5:15 pm, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 20/04/2017 à 10:49, Torfinn Ingolfsen a écrit : On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:00 AM, Kurt Jaeger wrote: Hi! On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:30 AM,

Re: FreeBSD Port: b43-fwcutter-015

2017-04-10 Thread Baho Utot
On 04/10/17 08:12, Thomas Laus wrote: Is there any hope for this Broadcom wireless chip running on a Compaq F500 laptop? It was successful running Ubuntu 16 using the legacy Broadcom package of drivers. I installed the suggested FreeBSD ports for Broadcom wireless and loaded it as a

Re: The future of portmaster

2017-02-19 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/19/17 10:04, Matthias Andree wrote: Am 16.02.2017 um 21:48 schrieb Baho Utot: Having built and packaged linux from scratch using the rpm package manager, I came to find that if one is building packages to be used on multiple machines, one needs to build each package in a chroot

Re: The future of portmaster

2017-02-16 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/16/17 17:49, Johan Hendriks wrote: Op 16/02/2017 om 23:04 schreef Baho Utot: On 02/16/17 16:48, Mark Linimon wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: Oh no I am now banned as I use synth, whoa is me. This is overstating the matter. May we restrict

Re: The future of portmaster

2017-02-16 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/16/17 16:48, Mark Linimon wrote: On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 04:36:24PM -0500, Baho Utot wrote: Oh no I am now banned as I use synth, whoa is me. This is overstating the matter. May we restrict ourselves to the technical problems/features of the various port maintainence tools, please

Re: The future of portmaster

2017-02-16 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/16/17 16:22, Chris H wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:48:57 -0500 Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wri

Re: The future of portmaster

2017-02-16 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/16/17 15:40, George Mitchell wrote: On 02/16/17 15:33, Baho Utot wrote: On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> writes: On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can h

Re: The future of portmaster

2017-02-16 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/16/17 14:01, Lowell Gilbert wrote: Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> writes: On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: I'm looking for constructive critics, feedbacks, anything that can help me to make portmaster an actively maintained and used tool. If you can have it

Re: The future of portmaster

2017-02-16 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/16/17 06:08, Luca Pizzamiglio wrote: Hi all, portmaster, a tool used/loved/hated, is almost in abandoned state. I'm a portmaster user, because, in some cases, it fits my needs. In other cases, I use other tools, like poudriere or synth, that are really great. I don't want to open a

Re: Expulsion of John Marino - reasons and impact?

2017-02-16 Thread Baho Utot
On 02/15/17 21:13, Chris H wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:42:33 -0800 Dave Hayes wrote On 02/14/2017 15:15, Bryan Drewery wrote: On 2/14/2017 2:58 PM, Michael Gmelin wrote: On 14 Feb 2017, at 22:16, Bryan Drewery wrote: On 2/14/2017 12:50 PM,

Re: Fails to build math/libqalculate

2016-10-24 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/24/16 01:21, Jason E. Hale wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Kevin Oberman <rkober...@gmail.com> wrote: On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 4:57 AM, Baho Utot <baho-u...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: Sending this again as I have had mail server issues There is no src/Makefile

Fails to build math/libqalculate

2016-10-23 Thread Baho Utot
Sending this again as I have had mail server issues There is no src/Makefile.in only src/Makefile.am /usr/ports/math/libqalculate # make ===> License GPLv2 accepted by the user ===> Found saved configuration for libqalculate-0.9.10 ===> libqalculate-0.9.10 depends on file:

math/libqalculate: patch failure, port revision:423997

2016-10-19 Thread Baho Utot
/usr/ports/math/libqalculate # make ===> License GPLv2 accepted by the user ===> Found saved configuration for libqalculate-0.9.10 ===> libqalculate-0.9.10 depends on file: /usr/local/sbin/pkg - found ===> Fetching all distfiles required by libqalculate-0.9.10 for building ===> Extracting

Re: dependency explosions

2016-10-03 Thread Baho Utot
On 10/03/16 19:21, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: On Monday, 3 October 2016 at 14:14:13 +0200, Mathieu Arnold wrote: Le 01/10/2016 à 04:35, Julian Elischer a écrit : Such a 'minimum' install should probably be the default when coming in as a dependency, as there is an increasing tendency to

Re: Removing documentation

2016-02-15 Thread Baho Utot
Michelle Sullivan wrote: John Marino wrote: On 2/15/2016 5:59 PM, Roger Marquis wrote: It was actually worse than that. Those of us who questioned the wisdom of such disruptive and backwards-incompatible changes being implemented mid-release instead of at a release boundry were A)