Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-13 Thread Václav Haisman
Vivek Khera wrote, On 11.7.2008 21:06: On Jul 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: So, when can I expect your updated work on the port, build all dependencies to make sure they keep on working etc? I understand that we want to have this as soon as possible, but also do keep in mind

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-13 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Garrett Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Václav Haisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if the ports infrastructure had additional flag, say EXPERIMENTAL. Ports marked as such would not build/install by default unless something,

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-13 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 8:20 AM, Václav Haisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if the ports infrastructure had additional flag, say EXPERIMENTAL. Ports marked as such would not build/install by default unless something, say ALLOW_EXPERIMENTAL_PORTS=yes, was defined. That way we (people

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread Koen Martens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 03:06:57PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: Seriously, though... is someone actively working on a perl 5.10 port and can we find out what is holding it up for over 6 months now? Around February I started wondering about it, but

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 08:18:58AM +0200, Koen Martens wrote: Silly suggestion: if your business is depending on it, either fix the port yourself or pay someone to fix it for you. Seriously, making demands in a free software project is silly (if not rude). Actually, Vivek does contribute to

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread David Southwell
On Friday 11 July 2008 23:18:58 Koen Martens wrote: On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 03:06:57PM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: Seriously, though... is someone actively working on a perl 5.10 port and can we find out what is holding it up for over 6 months now? Around February I started wondering about

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread David Southwell
On Friday 11 July 2008 14:30:11 Remko Lodder wrote: David Southwell wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 14:02:09 Remko Lodder wrote: David Southwell wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 11:53:50 you wrote: David Southwell wrote: If we had to argue for every port on these terms everyone would spend

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread David Southwell
reply: I think work is underway, we do not know when it's available, but it will be as soon as possible. Thanks, remko Here is a full and verbatim copy of my original posting that started this thread. _ Subject: portupgrade to Perl

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 02:29:06AM -0700, David Southwell wrote: Here is a full and verbatim copy of my original posting that started this thread. _ Subject: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ?? From: David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread David Southwell
. _ Subject: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ?? From: David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Hi Just wondered when an upgrade to 5.10.0 could be expected. David

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 3:05 AM, David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not really. The information you give is valuable and will be helpful to those who do not understand the complications. However you are not telling me anything I do not know chuckles- which was why my original posting

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-12 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 12, 2008, at 2:56 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 08:18:58AM +0200, Koen Martens wrote: Silly suggestion: if your business is depending on it, either fix the port yourself or pay someone to fix it for you. Seriously, making demands in a free software project is

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Gerard thusly... On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:40:38 -0700 David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just wondered when an upgrade to 5.10.0 could be expected. Perhaps they are planning on releasing it with, and hopefully including it in the FreeBSD-7.1

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:01 AM, Parv wrote: Perhaps they are planning on releasing it with, and hopefully including it in the FreeBSD-7.1 release. That would be darn too long not to install on my own (unless 7.1 is coming out in a month)! Not being one of the folks working on the port, I

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: On 2008 Jul 11, at 10:31, Vivek Khera wrote: When I talk to some linux folks they just laugh that we don't have a perl 5.10 yet. It is embarrassing, actually, to go out and evangelize FreeBSD when there are delays like this.

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH
On 2008 Jul 11, at 10:31, Vivek Khera wrote: When I talk to some linux folks they just laugh that we don't have a perl 5.10 yet. It is embarrassing, actually, to go out and evangelize FreeBSD when there are delays like this. As a practical matter, is 5.10 really all that urgent?

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], wrote Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH thusly... On 2008 Jul 11, at 10:31, Vivek Khera wrote: When I talk to some linux folks they just laugh that we don't have a perl 5.10 yet. It is embarrassing, actually, to go out and evangelize FreeBSD when there are delays like

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread David Southwell
On Friday 11 July 2008 07:57:11 Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH wrote: On 2008 Jul 11, at 10:31, Vivek Khera wrote: When I talk to some linux folks they just laugh that we don't have a perl 5.10 yet. It is embarrassing, actually, to go out and evangelize FreeBSD when there are delays like this.

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Huff
David Southwell writes: As a practical matter, is 5.10 really all that urgent? (Bleeding-edge Linuxers don't count; FreeBSD is a production OS.) That sounds a bit complacent to me. I hope others are not likely to be so dismissive of the needs of others. And sometimes, a

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread David Southwell
On Friday 11 July 2008 09:13:21 Robert Huff wrote: David Southwell writes: As a practical matter, is 5.10 really all that urgent? (Bleeding-edge Linuxers don't count; FreeBSD is a production OS.) That sounds a bit complacent to me. I hope others are not likely to be so dismissive

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Vivek Khera
On Jul 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: So, when can I expect your updated work on the port, build all dependencies to make sure they keep on working etc? I understand that we want to have this as soon as possible, but also do keep in mind that we would like to make sure as much

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Remko Lodder
David Southwell wrote: If we had to argue for every port on these terms everyone would spend their time arguing and we would have none atall. It is not as though Perl is an obscure bit of buggy code that none uses. If there is a request then simply a response to your last question is

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread David Southwell
On Friday 11 July 2008 12:06:57 Vivek Khera wrote: On Jul 11, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Remko Lodder wrote: So, when can I expect your updated work on the port, build all dependencies to make sure they keep on working etc? I understand that we want to have this as soon as possible, but also do keep

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread David Southwell
On Friday 11 July 2008 14:02:09 Remko Lodder wrote: David Southwell wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 11:53:50 you wrote: David Southwell wrote: If we had to argue for every port on these terms everyone would spend their time arguing and we would have none atall. It is not as though Perl

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-11 Thread Remko Lodder
David Southwell wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 14:02:09 Remko Lodder wrote: David Southwell wrote: On Friday 11 July 2008 11:53:50 you wrote: David Southwell wrote: If we had to argue for every port on these terms everyone would spend their time arguing and we would have none atall. It is

portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-10 Thread David Southwell
Hi Just wondered when an upgrade to 5.10.0 could be expected. David ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-10 Thread Gerard
On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:40:38 -0700 David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Just wondered when an upgrade to 5.10.0 could be expected. David I have been trying to get an answer to that question for quite some time now also. Perhaps they are planning on releasing it with, and hopefully

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-10 Thread David Southwell
On Thursday 10 July 2008 03:42:46 Gerard wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:40:38 -0700 David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Just wondered when an upgrade to 5.10.0 could be expected. David I have been trying to get an answer to that question for quite some time now also. Perhaps

Re: portupgrade to Perl 5.10.0 ??

2008-07-10 Thread Xin LI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Southwell wrote: | On Thursday 10 July 2008 03:42:46 Gerard wrote: | On Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:40:38 -0700 | | David Southwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi | | Just wondered when an upgrade to 5.10.0 could be expected. | | David | I have been