Jon Dama wrote:
Request Barriers under linux exist to prevent the low level kernel block
device layer from reordering write operations from the upper file system
layers. Request Barriers consist of nothing more than tagging internal
queues within the Linux kernel itself. They do nothing to
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Jon Dama [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
however, journaling fairs no better, and request barriers do nothing to
solve the problem.
I had assumed that the sequence of operations in a journal would be
idempotent. Is that a reasonable design criterion? [If it
Lawrence Petrykanyn wrote:
I am unable to navigate the directory tree as simply nothing happens
when I click on File, View, etc. or any of the icons. I was able to use
it fine in 5.3, but have done a clean install of 5.4 since.
Have you tried to rm -rf ~/.gqview and possibly .thumbnails?
DMVN [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Q: Does the FreeBSD 5.4 support SerialATA hard drives?
I tried to install previous version (5.3) on the machine
with 160GB Seagate Barracuda (8mb cache) drive (ST3160023AS).
It said something like no hard drive found.
ad4: 152627MB ST3160023AS/8.05 [310101/16/63]
Phusion [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I recently built a FreeBSD server, and was wondering how I can make an
image of the hard drive. I am going to build an another FeeBSD server
using identical hardware. How can I make an image of the hard drive of
the original server I built and copy/install it to
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Do you have a background in OS design? It affects the answer, because
you seem to be referring to access barriers and disk cache flushes
interchangeably, which doesn't make sense, especially on
multiprocessor systems.
From what I understand from some
Matt Juszczak [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Procmail is the only one segfaulting with signal 11. POP3 has exiting
with signal 6 a few times, but only a few, and its been sporadic.
I assume that you've checked that you're running the latest version (or
ports version) of procmail?
mkb.
Hi folks,
I'd like to know something about the (possible) existence of disk
write-barriers in FreeBSD. I often read the advice that one should
disable write-back caching on modern disks in order to make softupdates
actually work. Unfortunately, disabling the write-back cache on typical
ATA/SATA
Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE
I'm trying to do a large local rsync in the background, while listening to
streaming audio via RealPlayer and do other stuff. I have the rsync
running at nice level 20 (nice -20) which I've confirmed via ps:
Please try:
Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is there a way in 5.x to have account passwords expire every 180 days? Or I
should say N days really. I think this was once tunable in /etc/login.conf
but thats has been repalced with PAM.
man pw pw.conf
mkb.
Lefteris Tsintjelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I am not sure if I do something wrong here or it is suppose to work that
way but the async option doesn't seem to work for partitions that have
soft-updates turned on. Can someone please clarify the difference and if
the speed difference (if any) is
Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
No. With softupdates, file writes are asynchronous, but writes to
filesystem structures (metadata) are synchronous to prevent filesystem
corruption if the machine crashes. The async mount option writes both
That's wrong.
mkb.
Sergei Gnezdov wrote:
I like the size of the xterm window. It is small and it uses very
easy to read font. Unfortunately, it does not play very well with
emacs. For these reasons I use Gnome terminal. Gnome font is bigger,
thus it takes more space on the screen. How do I identify which font
Chris wrote:
I will agree on this point - A server does not NEED to a WM (none of
mine do). However, I am speaking from a desktop point of view.
Can you please move that discussion to a newsgroup, or to private mail?
Thanks.
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Nope. Beastie is a way of life. I'd be quite upset if it were dropped
for whatever reason. It is so intimately tied to FreeBSD that it would
be a PR disaster if it were to be changed. NetBSD never had a real
The BSD daemon image stems from around 4.3BSD, or an even earlier
Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
(Nevertheless, it is not time to advertise FreeBSD as a desktop
alternative.)
This is not so much about FreeBSD, as the Unix+X11 combination in
general. It does not provide the fully integrated system the typical
end-user, coming from a Windows or Mac perspective, expects.
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Or the city administration of Munich, which intends to move its
Windows desktops to a Linux/KDE-based installation.
Why not just burn taxpayer euro in a bonfire? It would have the same
end result and it would be faster.
Well, if you just run a set of 1-3 applications, and
Johnson David wrote:
Currently Windows rules the desktop world, even for diehard Unix shops. But
that will not last forever. We need to start thinking about the desktop
today. We need to stop the official discouragement of desktop FreeBSD.
MacOS X is the Desktop BSD. It is available today, and it
Robert Marella wrote:
MacOS X is the Desktop BSD. It is available today, and it works
better than anything else at being a desktop.
Does it work on my intel hardware?
And your point is..?
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Ruben de Groot wrote:
Does anyone have an Idiots guide to VI?
There isn't. vi was never meant to be used by idiots ;-)
au contraire.. read the shocking truth about vi.. the story the CIA
doesn't want you to know about.. the story of Vince Idiot:
http://www.sbernard.ee/vince.html
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Erik Norgaard wrote:
How on earth did it end up there? are someone mad at us? mx1 is not
listed, but it appears that most list mail comes from mx2...
JFYI, from Matthew Sullivan, SORBS operator:
Listed in Error - removed.
Regards,
Mat
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I have an AMD Athlon-XP with 1.5GB RAM.
Unfortunately my FreeBSD 4.10 throws a memory allocation
error when in a simple C++ program I try to allocate
with new 512MB of RAM or more. Until 511MB it goes fine!
what's the output of ulimit -d?
John wrote:
what's the output of ulimit -d?
You must be using a csh-derivative. It is a built-in for the Bourne-
shell family of shells.
the csh correspondent is limit.
it only affects the shell and its children (so put a setting in
/etc/profile, /etc/csh.login, or configure the limit via
Kirk Strauser wrote:
I've tried adding every Truetype font path on my system to its fontpath
variable, but I get the same error but with a much longer list of
directories. Any ideas?
have you tried running fc-cache?
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Gert Cuykens wrote:
find / -name *torrent*
or just locate torrent|grep ports, when weekly/310.locate has run at
least once (that is, it won't work right after installation, unless
you've run the script manually). /usr/ports is not normally exempt from
updatedb.
mkb.
Gert Cuykens wrote:
please dont tell me bittorent just installed mozilla and all that
phyton ... to go to the internet and show the face of the developer
when you do this : (
bittorrent is written in python, so you probably can't do without it.
the thing about mozilla, well. freebsd ports are
Gert Cuykens wrote:
Come on guy's admit it, it all started with making a Free Boobies
Search Device for the internet :P
crap.. he found out about it...
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Mike Hauber wrote:
I've built/installed these games from the ports tree, and they
start fine. However, the sound is terrible. The sound card
seems to be echoing each sound at least 5 times. This, in turn,
slows the games down.
the sound server of the doom-derived games has always been
Tom Vilot wrote:
have you tried to include the above bindings in your $HOME/.gtkrc-2.0
file? maybe then it will get read by all applications using the gtk
2.x toolkit.
Thank you thank you thank you ...
This has been driving me bonkers!
It's not a systemwide setting .. but that's okay. In
I wrote:
maybe gtk-theme-name = Emacs will already work.
That didn't work but one apparently can include files.
The following line appended to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 enabled emacs keybindings
for me in the text entry widgets:
include /usr/X11R6/share/themes/Emacs/gtk-2.0-key/gtkrc
Don't know if that's the
Jorn Argelo wrote:
Of course. You want to use Linux drivers, so you need Linux compatibility.
he doesn't need linux drivers. the g400 has been supported by XFree for
many years, including DRI. I can't quite see a problem with his xorg
config, maybe he has installed some mesa port, which
Clint Olsen wrote:
I was cruising around the ports system, looking for JRE-1.5 or an
equivalent, so I can get Java applets to run in Firefox. Is there a Linux
port of this since Sun does binary releases of this?
pkgsrc/lang/sun-jre15
(requires linux emulation)
I wrote:
pkgsrc/lang/sun-jre15
err.. wrong list, wrong OS (although pkgsrc also supports freebsd).
you may want to look at ports/java/jdk15, or one of the linux-*-jdk15 in
the same directory.
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Gert Cuykens wrote:
So is the linux emulation a bad thing or a good thing, i dont
understand very well what we need to do here to have java 1.5 in
firefox on my amd 64 ? sorry :)
Linux emulation is both a good, and a bad thing. Good, because software
that is available only for Linux (usually
Pete Yandell wrote:
$ disklabel -r ad6 ~
disklabel: bad pack magic number (label is damaged, or pack is unlabeled)
The disklabel is on ad6s1, not on ad6. The kernel does automatically
generate fictitious labels for unlabeled disks, no matter if
Tom Vilot wrote:
What I don't understand is how to make that global. That is, applied to
all Window Managers. If I run AfterStep or WindowMaker, these keyboard
bindings do not apply and I can't figure out how to make them apply
irrespective of the window manager currently running.
have you
Petri Helenius wrote:
Are you sure you aren't comparing filesystems with different mount
options? Async comes to mind first.
a) ext3 and xfs are logging filesystems, so the problem with
asynchronous metadata updates possibly corrupting the filesystem on a
crash doesn't arise.
b) asynchronous
Jacob S wrote:
http://www.daemonology.net/depenguinator/
The penguin shall fall ;)
Looks nice. Thanks!
But make sure first how much a re-setup costs you. Or how much they
charge for remote hands. Or at best, get some eRic II or DRAC remote
management card option. I think it's safer to assume
Jerry McAllister wrote:
This 'rest of the disk' should be divided up into chunks that can
be dump(8)ed to one backup media if possible. Otherwise you will
get sloppy and not do backups because it is harder. Since there is a
What kind of nonsense is this? I've never heard about such an advise,
Chris wrote:
In addition, was on OS running a window manager and the other not? Was
I seriously doubt that raw disk performance of such a test is noticably
affected by the existence of a window manager, or sshd...
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Oliver Fuchs wrote:
Maybe there is a performance problem with FreeBSD - but again that was not
his question.
I don't know why people are so obsessed with performance.. after all,
you can't really load stock Unix systems properly anyways (like, say, an
IBM mainframe, which you can keep at 90+%
David Gerard wrote:
My experience is that with a 500Mhz Pentium 3 (512K cache, 512mb RAM,
Matrox G450 AGP graphics), Gnome (2.6 tested) is unbearably slow. A
I have read that pango is grossly CPU-hungry, but that the project is
keenly aware of the problem. (But refuses to do the easy thing of
Scott Bennett wrote:
And so your preference would be that the machines should go to a landfill
rather than to someone who can't afford a computer at all?
Here in the Civilized World, we recycle the materials used in computers
(well, most of them), we don't throw them into the sea.
You
Colin J. Raven wrote:
Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated?
Phew! I believe in radical solutions certainly, but..umm..isn't that
going just a little bit too far? :-)
I'm assuming you mean destructively formatted...
Surely that depends on what was on them. The disks from
E. J. Cerejo wrote:
Is there a port that allows you to edit a pdf file or fill it in?
acroread (/usr/ports/print).
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John wrote:
What do you folks have on your hard drives that is worth thousands
of dollars and weeks of time for someone to recover?
Err.. I'd guess that most people who use their machine for business have
sensitive data on it that can easily be at least a couple thousand
dollars worth... for
David Gerard wrote:
So something around 500MHz will happily run Pango and the other
cutting-edge internationalisation stuff if you fill it with memory.
My experience is that with a 500Mhz Pentium 3 (512K cache, 512mb RAM,
Matrox G450 AGP graphics), Gnome (2.6 tested) is unbearably slow. A
large
Anthony Atkielski wrote:
Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and
an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on
And where do you think would they find this junk PC?
Don't you think that's a bit condescending?
Like, let's give those negroes
Happens sometimes to me when some characters from a binary file are
displayed on the screen as is. Or, some other stty(1) setting.
Typing reset/tset(1) or closing-and-/opening another xterm(1) works
for me. Xterm i say for that i use most than console.
or ctrl+button2 in xterm, which pops up a
Chuck Swiger wrote:
Even Apple doesn't show up in their radar... what do you expect.
This is untrue.
The Mac Runtime for Java is a high-priority environment for both Apple
When I go to java.sun.com, I can download the jdk for: Linux, Windows,
Solaris. That's what I meant.
Java is as
Chuck Swiger wrote:
If you choose not to see any distinction between software which is
freely available and comes with source code, and between other forms of
software which neither comes with source nor is free, fine.
No. Open has for a long time referred to industry standard, before
it was
Kris Maglione wrote:
I, personally, still don't completely understand the entire unix/X cut
buffer system. First, there is more than one cut buffer, but I doubt
that that's your problem. Second, there is select-to-copy and
select+right click.../ctrl+c/... to copy. These use two different
X11
Jonathan Chen wrote:
Blame Sun; they don't make it easy for organizations like FreeBSD
to release a binary version of Java.
Even Apple doesn't show up in their radar... what do you expect.
Java is as proprietary as it gets. (Unfortunately many of us need it.)
mkb.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know how to change this
annoying default behaviour of bash or sh
in FreeBSD when somebody presses the del key?
When I press the del key I want this to work
as it works on any editor or in Linux bash!
Anyway to achieve this?
as we cannot guess what the
I'm trying to get APM to work (ACPI makes the kernel crap itself when I
insert or remove a pcmcia card into my Armada m700 notebook) and load
the apm.ko from loader.conf. However, it doesn't seem to create the
necessary device entry /dev/apm, and apmd and apm(8) complain about
that. What's
Florian Hengstberger wrote:
I have a microcontroller with an uart interface.
I want to communicate with my computer through the serial port
of my FreeBSD box.
Is it somehow possible to connect the serial io to a xterm?
Case it is not: I don't want to write a program myself -
is there an existing
Malcolm Kay wrote:
Is it really possible to have a ext3fs mount under FBSD 5.3? I know you
can mount an ext2fs file system and an existing linux ext3fs will probably
mount successfully (without journaling) as an ext2fs; but is this what are
you trying to do?
I've last mounted ext2 on 5.2.1 (it
Chandler May wrote:
Never mind, I just deleted work and the ghostscript folder from
distfiles... the installation is working now. So far so good - it has
gotten farther than before, I think.
You might want to file a PR that the port is broken with certain options
(with sendpr, or via the web form
Vulpes Velox wrote:
Xorg beat XFree86 out in regards of features in the newest release.
And in regards of bugs. I've never seen so many random BadWindow errors
when doing remote X than I have with X.org. Not even old DEC and HP R5
servers were so bugged. But of course stability is for bean
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Also, with a Sparc 20 try to load a copy of Solaris 2.6 rather than a later
copy, it will run faster and Sun still releases patches for it.
Hmm, I don't know if that's worth it. I run Solaris 9 on an SS20 (2x
60MHz SM61, 224MB RAM) and am very satisfied with its
Satori Seal - Dale T. McGrosky wrote:
The web server program will be PARADOX as this computer will access data
through a Sonic wall firewall to our file server.
Will FreeBSD 5.3 be a good operating system for us that will provide
excellent security?
From what I gathered from the web, it appears
Kevin Smith wrote:
How do I permit ordinary users to mound SCSI devices ?
As suggested in the FAQ, section 9, I am able to allow members of
operator group mount the cdrom by setting sysctl -w vfs.usrmount=1
This does not appear to work with SCSI devices. (ex: /dev/da0s2)
I get the error:
mount
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a Sun SPARC 20 collecting dust, and I was wondering if any
version of FreeBSD would run on my Sun SPARC 20? From what I can gather
FreeBSD only works on UltraSPARC.
Maybe not FreeBSD but both NetBSD and Solaris work very well on the
Sparc 20, and they're
Louis LeBlanc wrote:
Use with care. Some spam rbls are overly zealous, and often block out
whole netblocks just because one IP has been reported as an offender.
And all dialup networks. Which can lead to the bizarre situation that
if you're relaying through your mail server from a dialup IP,
Hi folks,
when I kill -HUP named on 5.3 (BIND 9), it exits, instead of reloading,
as stated in the manpage. Is this normal? I think it's rather
impractical, since it prevents proper log rotation through
newsyslog.conf (when using file logging in named.conf). It doesn't
seem to matter if
Joerg Pulz wrote:
i tried 'rndc reload' and it's working and did not cause the named
process to exit. maybe '/etc/rc.d/named' should be changed to use this
as reload command.
Yes, this works here also.
In the long run, it would probably be a good idea to make newsyslog
understand arbitrary
Kris Kennaway wrote:
A truly enormous number :-) You just need to increase the value of
kern.maxfiles in /boot/loader.conf as appropriate for your workload.
would it be possible to make this dynamically allocated in the future?
imho, such limits are a bit anachronistic.
mkb.
Bill Moran wrote:
I've been using Dovecot for quite some time now. It's not even a 1.0
product yet, and I still find it excellent for both POP and IMAP. It
includes support for both POP3S and IMAPS, which I find very important
in this day and age.
I've had bad experience so far with dovecot,
Kris Kennaway wrote:
Having a hard limit is by design, or users could run your machine out
of memory and cause it to panic.
# sysctl -w kern.maxfiles=2
kern.maxfiles: 12328 - 2
Ok, I agree. Must've confused something here. I was under the impression
that it was fixed at boot. The user
Joshua Lokken wrote:
Message filtering, for example I have all the different freebsd mailing
lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting?
No. You have to setup procmail (or a similar program) to do that for you.
Wrong. Mutt'll do it just fine.
Just wondering; have you
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
This is a particularly tenacious rumour. I've been using bash as my
root shell on many different UNIX platforms for nearly 14 years, and
I've never had any problems. I've also never seen any substantiated
problems reported anywhere.
Besides, when your favourite shell
knowledge and testing than if you were
hardcoding the stuff in Makefiles.
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RW wrote:
kcalc can be a simple calculator, or a more complex programmer's/scientific
calculator according to what options are checked on it's settings menu.
And if all fails, there's still the good old xcalc, which is available
on every X11 installation.
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the different freebsd mailing
lists automatically put into different folders, and junk mail sorting?
No. You have to setup procmail (or a similar program) to do that for you.
Speell check?
No. You have to setup your editor for running ispell or similar.
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even boot on another machine on which FreeBSD runs very
well. I guess issues like that hold for OpenBSD aswell.)
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userland on top of a Linux kernel. It is for sure possible but of
rather questionable merit and most likely a lot more work than you'd
want to invest.
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cvsup.
That begs the question: can't one run i386 executables on amd64? I
assumed that was not a problem?
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triggered
rebuilds on a few so far, including h/w RAID, RAIDFrame and the Linux
raid* thing, and it has always worked nicely while there was heavy load
on the volume (with reduced performance during the rebuild, of course.)
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Richard Bradley wrote:
ScotGold seems reasonably priced, but once you've bought their minimum
order of 10, you're again paying almost £5.
Is there a gap in the market?
the question is if that would be economical. do you also buy paper
clips one at a time? :)
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a look?) I suppose i could/should save a copy just in
case.
That's pretty heavy, considering that without REs it would be roughly
equivalent to the dreaded EDLIN.COM, which came in at around 7K. ;)
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Davis Doherty wrote:
The wireless card uses the Prism 2 chipset, and was recognized when I
plugged it in. I did 'wicontrol -n my network SSID' and 'wicontrol -p
try setting the ssid with ifconfig, and see if that makes a difference.
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Richard Williamson wrote:
Ok, I'll recreate the original flash image to ensure it is -O 1,
and then try again.
in order to mount ufs1 on linux, you also have to specify the
ufstype=44bsd option to mount. otherwise the mount might succeed, but
you won't see any files.
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for that shop (I won't tell which one,
'cause I'm not a copyright prosecutor.) So it seems to be quite popular
indeed (maybe people also like it because it's cute.)
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Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
This is exactly what I needed. I wanted to experiment with building,
installing, linking, and the same with my own test 'libraries.' It looks
like this is much easier than autoconf.
Why do you want to use autoconf at all, if you want to build on only one
system?
Igor Zbirka wrote:
when I do kldload mga.ko, it doesn't change anything (possibly it isn't for
this graphic card:)
the kernel module is only useful for agp cards.
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Sean Murphy writes:
How does one take screen shots of the FreeBSD Install and Terminal? I
would like to make a guide specific to our location.
The most straightforward way is maybe to do an installation inside
emulators like VMware, Bochs or Virtual PC.
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the UDMA cable (is it a proper
80-conductor one?) and the disk's power cable (loose contact?)
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bittorrant for getting a release.
Surely you can elaborate? Bittorrent was explicitly designed for the
very purpose it has been used with the FreeBSD ISOs (and other
organizations are using it aswell, for example RedHat for Fedora Core,
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, The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD
Operating System, Addison-Wesley, 2004.
I haven't read yet it but I have the predecessor book (about 4.4BSD) and
I guess it's written in the same style.
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block it or noticably slow it down, I would
consider changing to a different ISP. And I think there's still a
difference in quality compared to things like edonkey, which are used
exclusively for illegal filesharing.
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for altruistic reasons either, you pay them
money for it.
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Is it, Mr./Ms. [EMAIL PROTECTED]?
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generally uses message
passing between mostly independent server processes, which is not what
the BSD kernel does.
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definitely want to buy.
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and on that file pwd_mkdb worked. The question remains, however,
what to do in the case when only the databases are left and all
textual files are trashed. Surely there must be a way to create
the text files from the db?
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from the databases?
pwd_mkdb(8) talks about creating a v7 style passwd file via the
-p option but I don't know what to pass as file argument, if I
do pwd_mkdb -p /etc/pwd.db I get:
pwd_mkdb: line #1 too long
pwd_mkdb: /etc/pwd.db: Inappropriate file type or format
Any solution?
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