In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kai Grossjohann (kg) writes:
kg Software is written for users, isn't it?
From observation I would say that most software is written against
users.
As for FBSD, I hope it is being written for the enjoyment of those
writing it, since that is the best insurance that
Thompson, Jimi [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why should The FreeBSD project be interested in users ?
They are VERY interested in users, according to my humble experience.
And that's good: Software is written for users, isn't it?
Kai
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Andrew L. Gould wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:20:17 -0400
Chris Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This thread cracks me up. No matter how many times the same subject
has been brought up, I still can't stop laughing at the silliness of
it all. Maybe FreeBSD should make a fuzzy bunny that does a happy
On Jun 15, 2004, at 11:20 AM, Chris Lynch wrote:
This thread cracks me up. No matter how many times the same subject
has been
brought up, I still can't stop laughing at the silliness of it all.
Maybe FreeBSD should make a fuzzy bunny that does a happy dance...but,
then
we'd be stepping on the
Thompson, Jimi wrote:
SNIP
From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many
people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying
FreeBSD
because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted
by a
devil.
Why should The
On 6/13/2004 at 5:02 PM Edward Hendrie wrote:
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|Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters dressed in
|harmless butterfly costumes.
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Looks more like a mosquito to me.
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
Ed, it's obvious you've hit a nerve.
Many list subscribers who have never contributed before, feel
compelled to reply, repeating the same explanations which have
On 6/13/2004 at 5:02 PM Edward Hendrie wrote:
|
|Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters dressed in
|harmless butterfly costumes.
=
Looks more like a mosquito to me.
I don't know about that, but it probably tracks disease all over.
And if that thing
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
Ed, it's obvious you've hit a nerve.
Many list subscribers who have never contributed before, feel
compelled to reply, repeating the same explanations
happen then!!!
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:20:17 -0400, Chris Lynch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This thread cracks me up. No matter how many times the same subject has been
brought up, I still can't stop laughing at the silliness of it all.
Maybe FreeBSD should make a fuzzy bunny that does a happy dance...but, then
McAllister
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:41 AM
To: Mi A. Llort
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Devil Mascot
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
Ed, it's obvious you've hit a nerve
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 11:20:17 -0400
Chris Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This thread cracks me up. No matter how many times the same subject
has been brought up, I still can't stop laughing at the silliness of
it all. Maybe FreeBSD should make a fuzzy bunny that does a happy
dance...but, then
McAllister
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 10:41 AM
To: Mi A. Llort
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Devil Mascot
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
Ed, it's obvious you've hit a nerve
Hi all,
Mostly for entertainment.
Agreed. It was fun, thanks all.
EOT, please? ... Nico
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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:53:57 -0400
Mi A. Llort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
Ed, it's obvious you've hit a nerve.
Many list subscribers who have never
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 11:19 am, Randy Pratt wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:53:57 -0400
Mi A. Llort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
Ed, it's obvious you've hit
On Tuesday 15 June 2004 11:19 am, Randy Pratt wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 09:53:57 -0400
Mi A. Llort [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
...
The FreeBSD
and Windoze, regardless of it's mascot.
Sincerely,
Thad Butterworth
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Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:53:49 -0500
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Subject: Re: Devil Mascot
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On Tue, 2004-06-15 at 10:39, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
Maybe FreeBSD should make a fuzzy bunny that does a happy
dance...
Too fluffy. FreeBSD is a no-fluff OS! ;-)
No, but it keeps going and going and going and going and...
Cheers,
Frank
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Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD
because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted by a
On Monday 14 June 2004 02:02, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Hi,
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot?
It's not a devil, it's a daemon.
Look at how MSN is marketing its ISP. They use characters dressed in
harmless butterfly costumes.
... looking ridiculous, IMHO...
You
You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create
market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not
one that evokes evil and deception.
Man... either you're a (moderately funny) troll or *you're* the one with
some serious issues here.
It's a
Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot?
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html
From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD
because
You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create
market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not
one that evokes evil and deception.
I think it looks friendly, not evil at all. Moreover, it says FreeBSD,
the power to serve. Sounds
Edward Hendrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD
because they have religious
On 13/06/04 17:02 -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD
because they have
On 06/13/04 05:02 PM, Edward Hendrie sat at the `puter and typed:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a
marketing perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot.
There are many people of various religious backgrounds who will
be dissuaded from trying
If some people are put off from FreeBSD because the devil mascot
evokes evil and deception, they are not people I personally would want
using the same OS as me. Good riddance! Speaking only for myself, of course.
Now MSN, and its behemoth parent Microsoft, on the other hand...
*There's* evil
Please realize that I am not an official
representative of FreeBSD, nor any organization
associated to it.
--- Edward Hendrie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot?
Daemon...
From a marketing perspective,
Blasphemy...
you are shooting yourselves in
On Jun 13, 2004, at 8:02 PM, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many
people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying
FreeBSD
because they have
Hello all.
We are proud of it. Period.
At 08:33 a.m. 14/06/04 -0400, you wrote:
On 13/06/04 17:02 -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many
people
of various religious
SNIP
From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many
people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying
FreeBSD
because they have religious objections to a product that is promoted
by a
devil.
Why should The FreeBSD project be
Btw, I wonder what sane sysadmin would base his choice between OS'es
upon their mascot. At least I wouldn't drop an excellent OS such as
FreeBSD just for the mascot.
For clarity: it refers to background server processes, not evil. The
penguin refers to nothing.
And if you really want BSD
You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to create
market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and goodwill, not
one that evokes evil and deception.
For the original inspiration, look up Maxwell's daemon on google. In
the 19th century, Maxwell used
For clarity: it refers to background server processes, not evil. The
penguin refers to nothing.
Tux looks cute, but does it stand for (code) bloat? ;-)
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On Sun, 13 Jun 2004, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD
because they have
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Cordula's Web (cw) writes:
cw Tux looks cute, but does it stand for (code) bloat? ;-)
It's quite simple:
BSD: Daemon, evil, 'nuff said.
Linux: Penguin, it's never going to fly.
Windows: Distorted windowframe, lets crooks in.
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:31:40AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
This has come up 1 times. It's simply not going to happen because the
beastie has too much historical significance. It's a matter of pride that the
beastie mascot has more history than the Linux penguin and the Microshit
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot?
You might want to look at the output of whois antichristconspiracy.com
before wasting your time responding to this.
Then you can construct much more amusing replies.
-- Richard
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On Sun, Jun 13, 2004 at 05:02:49PM -0700, Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot? From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people
of various religious backgrounds who will be dissuaded from trying FreeBSD
because
Greg Pavelcak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 08:31:40AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
This has come up 1 times. It's simply not going to happen because the
beastie has too much historical significance. It's a matter of pride that the
beastie mascot has more
You may think that is a small issue, but when you are trying to
create
market awareness you need a mascot that evokes simplicity and
goodwill, not
one that evokes evil and deception.
... and here I thought that giving software away for free to everyone
in the world was a form of altruism
I wonder if the FreeBSD daemon could be considered a god...
because he can make world.
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--- Jan Muenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You may think that is a small issue, but when
you are trying to create
market awareness you need a mascot that evokes
simplicity and goodwill, not
one that evokes evil and deception.
Man... either you're a (moderately funny) troll or
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 14:07:41 +0200, Ole Guldberg Jensen wrote
Edward Hendrie wrote:
Why do you have a Devil for a trademark mascot?
http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/daemon.html
From a marketing
perspective, you are shooting yourselves in the foot. There are many people
of
I don't think there is much to worry about on that front. Please read below
and you will understand.
http://bonehead.oddballs.com/todays_bonehead.html
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Peter Pauly wrote:
I wonder if the FreeBSD daemon could be considered a god...
because he can make world.
Heh, now that's a nice one.
Interesting discussion by the way, but I wonder, why are we going to
reply to an obvious troll like that? Just let the man be, and we might
as well spend time
On Monday 14 June 2004 04:09 pm, Jorn Argelo wrote:
Peter Pauly wrote:
I wonder if the FreeBSD daemon could be considered a god...
because he can make world.
Heh, now that's a nice one.
Interesting discussion by the way, but I wonder, why are we going to
reply to an obvious troll like
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