Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-12 Thread Heikki Suonsivu
Frank Shute wrote: I didn't think you'd be having the odd game of Quake on one of your boxes. But think of it as an added feature! :) Oh, doom does not require fp, its integer only and on 100MHz Pentium it was very smooth! I did couple of hour-long doom sessions on one of our FreeBSD

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Heikki Suonsivu wrote: I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. So, the question: What is the linux distro which is closest to

FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Heikki Suonsivu
I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. So, the question: What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. So, the question: What is the linux distro which is closest to FreeBSD in terms of

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
See also this very interesting post on minimum memory requirements for each FreeBSD version: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html I have a 4.11 installed successfully on a 386 with 20Mb RAM. NetBSD 1.5 runs for sure and runs fast on 486SX and 8MB RAM

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html now i made my tests with FreeBSD 7. no installer, my semi-custom kernel i use everywhere on x86 (everything moduled, all needed things in loader.conf). i used qemu results: 16MB RAM - boots without problems, no

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Brian
Wojciech Puchar wrote: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/2006-August/011029.html now i made my tests with FreeBSD 7. no installer, my semi-custom kernel i use everywhere on x86 (everything moduled, all needed things in loader.conf). i used qemu results: 16MB RAM - boots

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread herbs
Also Slackware has a rather Unix-like concept. The versions until 11 (if I remember right) still run on the 2.4 kernel and have an option to install without X11 and KDE and such. I still use it on a slow server, it is easy to understand when you come from BSD-land. Cheers herbs On Wed, Jun 11,

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Heikki Suonsivu
Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about 3W of

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw, consider the effort of maintaining the system. maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config so logs won't fill the disk.

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Brian
Wojciech Puchar wrote: To the OP, if you go ahead with trying to use this 486 or older hw, consider the effort of maintaining the system. maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config so logs won't fill

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar
maintaning? while running netbsd 1.5, my routers don't need any maintaining. they just works. what maintaining? just make your config so logs won't fill the disk. security patches, port updates? Any OS will probably require at least some of this. for router - not much :) there are for sure

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Andrew Berry
Heikki Suonsivu wrote: The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about 3W of power with CF card as mass memory, 128M, 3 USB2, serials,

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Heikki Suonsivu
Frank Shute wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math.

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Frank Shute
On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 09:30:17PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: Frank Shute wrote: On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 05:06:49PM +0300, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: Oops, sorry, I was not specific enough: FreeBSD 4 or older NetBSD are no go: The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Jon Hamilton
On Wed, June 11, 2008 04:54, Heikki Suonsivu wrote: I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. So, the question: What is the linux

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Tijl Coosemans
On Wednesday 11 June 2008 11:54:07 Heikki Suonsivu wrote: I need to get something to run on x86 computers which do not contain math in hardware, and FreeBSD dropped non-math cpus long time ago. NetBSD did the same, so Linux seems to be the only possibility. This is the commit that removed it:

Re: FreeBSD-like linux distro?

2008-06-11 Thread Brian
Andrew Berry wrote: Heikki Suonsivu wrote: The computer I am doing this is not old, it is otherwise brand new, but it uses an embedded cpu, a 486 clone as SoC without math. See www.compactpc.com.tw, eBOX 2300SX. It is very low cost, runs on about 3W of power with CF card as mass memory,