Not affecting exactly FreeBSD but OpenBSD

2010-12-16 Thread Jorge Biquez
Hello all. I found this interesting and wanted to share it here. I guess it has to do with a recently thread here Jorge Biquez -- By Doug Barney Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine dbar...@redmondmag.com FBI: THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INSTALLATION If WikiLeaks taught

Re: Not affecting exactly FreeBSD but OpenBSD

2010-12-16 Thread Jorge Biquez
At 10:22 p.m. 16/12/2010, Michael R. Rusch wrote: On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Jorge Biquez mailto:jbiq...@intranet.com.mxjbiq...@intranet.com.mx wrote: Hello all. I found this interesting and wanted to share it here. I guess it has to do with a recently thread here Jorge Biquez

Re: Not affecting exactly FreeBSD but OpenBSD

2010-12-16 Thread Michael R. Rusch
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Jorge Biquez jbiq...@intranet.com.mxwrote: Hello all. I found this interesting and wanted to share it here. I guess it has to do with a recently thread here Jorge Biquez -- By Doug Barney Editor in Chief, Redmond magazine

[Full-disclosure] FreeBSD and OpenBSD ftpd bug (not exploitable?)

2010-03-07 Thread Zamri Besar
Dear all, Found this in full-disclosure mailing list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kingcope kco...@googlemail.com Date: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:19 PM Subject: [Full-disclosure] FreeBSD and OpenBSD ftpd bug (not exploitable?) To: full-disclos...@lists.grok.org.uk, bugt

Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD

2009-04-30 Thread Tim Judd
something I wonder about I know OpenBSD and FreeBSD both have different versions of the UFS filesystems (FreeBSD newfs(8) -O option, OpenBSD newfs(8) -O) has someone tried to use all combinations of all options to see if they work? It's funny that OpenBSD's manpage says it uses FFS, not UFS

Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD

2009-04-30 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:11:28 -0600, Tim Judd taj...@gmail.com wrote: It's funny that OpenBSD's manpage says it uses FFS, not UFS -- when even I thought it said UFS before I looked it up. Don't FFS and UFS refer to the same file system, the Berkeley Fast File System, also known as 4.2bsd? In my

filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD

2009-04-29 Thread Chuck Robey
of the two filesystems I just created on FreeBSD, FreeBSD seems to recognize the disklabel just fine (it sees, in /dev, both ad1s1d and ad1s1e), but FreeBSD can't seem to mount either one. Is there ANY filesystem that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff to from FreeBSD to OpenBSD

Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD

2009-04-29 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 14:36:31 -0400, Chuck Robey chu...@telenix.org wrote: Is there ANY filesystem that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff to from FreeBSD to OpenBSD? Besides (obviously) UFS? Yes, there is, and it even isn't a file system. It's tar. You can easily create

Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD

2009-04-29 Thread Daniel C. Dowse
that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff to from FreeBSD to OpenBSD? Besides (obviously) UFS? Thanks Hi Chuck, please tell us what exactly the output of mount is, mount (8) on FreeBSD 7.1 tells me that UFS is the default filesystem to mount. best regards Daniel Dowse

Re: filesystem compatibility between FreeBSD and OpenBSD

2009-04-29 Thread Chuck Robey
), but FreeBSD can't seem to mount either one. Is there ANY filesystem that would be a good bet, so that I could transfer stuff to from FreeBSD to OpenBSD? Besides (obviously) UFS? Thanks Hi Chuck, please tell us what exactly the output of mount is, mount (8) on FreeBSD 7.1 tells me

dual boot FreeBSD and openBSD

2009-03-12 Thread Saifi Khan
Hi all: My apologies if this is a newbie question, however, i'm trying to look beyond GRUB fixation. i'd like to do a dual boot installation of FreeBSD and openBSD, without using GRUB or LILO. Any suggestions on the bootloader to use ? What would your suggestion be, if i'm trying to dual boot

Re: dual boot FreeBSD and openBSD

2009-03-12 Thread Dánielisz László
FreeBSD and openBSD Hi all: My apologies if this is a newbie question, however, i'm trying to look beyond GRUB fixation. i'd like to do a dual boot installation of FreeBSD and openBSD, without using GRUB or LILO. Any suggestions on the bootloader to use ? What would your suggestion be, if i'm

Re: OT: unlucky generalizations [was: Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD]

2005-11-28 Thread Sanjay Arora
On Mon, 2005-11-28 at 00:21 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2005-11-27 16:25, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for all that think about security please don't use popular books, learn by yourself, and don't configure and use things like everyone else do!

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-28 Thread Wojciech Puchar
I have started with OpenBSD. I was coming from Red Hat 6.2 and to my shame, I didn't knew at that time that the BSD did exist. The very same day I discovered that BSD were free, and that I was indeed running one. same with me i wasn't aware of BSD first, then i was teached by linux community

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Newbie for freeBSD. One question freeBSD vs openBSD...what's the difference...security...supportdevelopment stage...other pros cons for each. People say that OpenBSD is the most secure. I say i would be as secure as it's system administrator. If we talk about performance, i agree

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-11-27 11:55, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newbie for freeBSD. One question freeBSD vs openBSD...what's the difference...security...supportdevelopment stage...other pros cons for each. People say that OpenBSD is the most secure. I say i would be as secure as it's

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread J.D. Bronson
At 08:14 AM 11/27/2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2005-11-27 11:55, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Newbie for freeBSD. One question freeBSD vs openBSD...what's the difference...security...supportdevelopment stage...other pros cons for each. People say that OpenBSD

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread Wojciech Puchar
it seems the OpenBSD group doesn't actually like questions. You can get flamed for the best worded question. Under FreeBSD, the community is more open to ideas and people trying things. In addition...some parts of the core of OpenBSD cannot easily be upgraded w/o issues. (Like openSSL for

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread Gilbert Fernandes
it seems the OpenBSD group doesn't actually like questions. You can get flamed for the best worded question. Under FreeBSD, the community is more open to ideas and people trying things. But we have to admit they do know how to properly flame someone. I mean, we never heard the rosted ash

OT: unlucky generalizations [was: Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD]

2005-11-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-11-27 16:25, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for all that think about security please don't use popular books, learn by yourself, and don't configure and use things like everyone else do! somewhat-far-fetched-comment/ Then you can never build upon the experience of others.

Re: OT: unlucky generalizations [was: Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD]

2005-11-27 Thread Peter Hummers
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2005-11-27 16:25, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for all that think about security please don't use popular books, learn by yourself, and don't configure and use things like everyone else do! somewhat-far-fetched-comment/ Then you

Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-27 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:25:55 AM, Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD Wrote these words of wisdom: for all that think about security please don't use popular books, learn by yourself, and don't configure and use things like everyone else do

Newbie Q: freeBSD vs openBSD

2005-11-26 Thread Sanjay Arora
Hi all Newbie for freeBSD. One question freeBSD vs openBSD...what's the difference...security...supportdevelopment stage...other pros cons for each. Pointers to literature comparisons on the net requested...wherever someone knows...wasn't able to find anything worthwhile on Google. Help

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-12 Thread Thomas Vincent
I would just do a google search. OpenBSD is definitely more thoroughly audited in terms of its code base. But has a reputation of being slower then FreeBSD. And to some degree, stable enough vs. very stable. But for your requirements that may not be a issue.

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-11 Thread Matthias Buelow
Jay Moore wrote: Here's how you should decide: Go to the OpenBSD mailing list archives, select 25 or so threads at random, and read them. Do the same for the FreeBSD mailling list archives. Then, make your decision. And remember, it's not like getting married - you can change your mind anytime

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-11 Thread Jay Moore
On Saturday 11 December 2004 07:24 pm, Matthias Buelow wrote: Here's how you should decide: Go to the OpenBSD mailing list archives, select 25 or so threads at random, and read them. Do the same for the FreeBSD mailling list archives. Then, make your decision. And remember, it's not like

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-11 Thread Jay Moore
On Sunday 05 December 2004 03:47 pm, Damien Hull wrote: I've been a FreeBSD user for a while now and I love it. I'm running 4.10 and plan on upgrading soon. I'm also an OpenBSD user but I tend to use it for firewalls and routers. I setup Apache and Subversion on OpenBSD 3.6 last week. This is

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-11 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
uncompromising. What would I recommend? Any BSD. DragonFlyBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD and OpenBSD (in alphabetical order, in case anybody wants to interpret it) are all excellent, reliable, secure, high performance systems. There are differences, but I'd only change from one to another with a good

FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-05 Thread Damien Hull
a lot of software 3. I can upgrade to new versions Should I make the switch from FreeBSD to OpenBSD for my servers? -- Damien Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-05 Thread Peter Risdon
2. Ports tree has a lot of software 3. I can upgrade to new versions Should I make the switch from FreeBSD to OpenBSD for my servers? This: http://www.serverwatch.com/tutorials/article.php/10825_3393051_1 concludes that all the BSDs are evenly matched. Although OpenBSD is the obvious choice

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-05 Thread Kirk Strauser
from FreeBSD to OpenBSD for my servers? There's nothing inherently wrong with the idea, but I personally wouldn't. Unless you have a hardware crypto accelerator installed, FreeBSD seems to be several times faster than OpenBSD on the same hardware. That's not a criticism of OpenBSD

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-05 Thread Dick Davies
* Damien Hull [EMAIL PROTECTED] [1247 21:47]: I've been a FreeBSD user for a while now and I love it. I'm running 4.10 and plan on upgrading soon. I'm also an OpenBSD user but I tend to use it for firewalls and routers. I setup Apache and Subversion on OpenBSD 3.6 last week. This is the first

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-05 Thread Adam Fabian
administration of the system is, in all likelihood, going to be a much larger factor than choosing OpenBSD or FreeBSD. Typically, servers only have a few packages and it's not very hard to simply download and compile the software yourself. To me, that mostly negates the advantage of FreeBSD's larger ports

Re: FreeBSD or OpenBSD

2004-12-05 Thread Adam Fabian
Oops. Meant to move the statisically thing up to the disclaimer, but didn't end up deleting it in the second location. Ah well, you probably understood despite the poor editing. ;) -- Adam Fabian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list

Re: How close is FreeBSD to OpenBSD?

2004-03-07 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Mar 06, 2004 at 11:34:33PM -0800, D.B. Lewis wrote: My background is in Redhat Linux and Windows, so please pardon the dumb question: How close are FreeBSD and OpenBSD? The reason I ask is to get a handle on how useful OpenBSD tips, FAQ's, etc. might be as I learn FreeBSD. OpenBSD

Re: How close is FreeBSD to OpenBSD?

2004-03-07 Thread David Benfell
On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 23:34:33 -0800, D.B. Lewis wrote: The reason I ask is to get a handle on how useful OpenBSD tips, FAQ's, etc. might be as I learn FreeBSD. Some things will be similar. Some will be different. The instances I find where the two projects could learn from each other are:

How close is FreeBSD to OpenBSD?

2004-03-06 Thread D.B. Lewis
and Windows, so please pardon the dumb question: How close are FreeBSD and OpenBSD? The reason I ask is to get a handle on how useful OpenBSD tips, FAQ's, etc. might be as I learn FreeBSD. Happy computing, D.B. Lewis, Owner/Consultant, The PC Helper of Oregon (24/7 emergency onsite

booting freebsd and openbsd

2003-11-23 Thread Paulo Roberto
Hi, I got 4.9 installed on my machine and I need to be able to dual-boot freebsd and openbsd. The freebsd boot-loader recognizes (F2 BSD) but does not boot the openbsd partition. Do I have to set any extra parameter? thanks, Paulo __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your

Re: booting freebsd and openbsd

2003-11-23 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Paulo Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got 4.9 installed on my machine and I need to be able to dual-boot freebsd and openbsd. The freebsd boot-loader recognizes (F2 BSD) but does not boot the openbsd partition. Do I have to set any extra parameter? Funny, I didn't think that should

Re: booting freebsd and openbsd

2003-11-23 Thread Jud
On 23 Nov 2003 17:59:46 -0500, Lowell Gilbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paulo Roberto [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I got 4.9 installed on my machine and I need to be able to dual-boot freebsd and openbsd. The freebsd boot-loader recognizes (F2 BSD) but does not boot the openbsd partition. Do I

What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread Andy
Apologies if I should have found the answer already, but it would appear from both sites that BSD is a marvellous operating system, very secure, efficient, etc, based on Berkeley Unix, etc. Both are free and maintained by really skilled technical people, etc, but what is the difference between

Re: What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread Lucas Holt
skilled technical people, etc, but what is the difference between them, why would one use one in preference to the other? Its simply a matter of preference. Each project (FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD...) have their own goals, and ideas about security. I tend to look at it like this: FreeBSD

Re: What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread Nico Meijer
Hi Andy, Starting World War III, are you? ;-) Apologies if I should have found the answer already, but it would appear from both sites that BSD is a marvellous operating system, very secure, efficient, etc, based on Berkeley Unix, etc. microsoft.com would like you to believe they make a

Re: What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread Viktor Lazlo
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003, Andy wrote: Apologies if I should have found the answer already, but it would appear from both sites that BSD is a marvellous operating system, very secure, efficient, etc, based on Berkeley Unix, etc. Both are free and maintained by really skilled technical people,

Re: What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread Lucas Holt
Darwin most certainly does run on x86 (Darwin supports both x86 and PPC). OS X does not, OS X is Darwin+Quartz+Cocoa+Carbon. I know it runs.. but there is no driver support. It supports like 1 intel ide controller chipset, etc. Basically its not that usable as a workstation or server

Re: What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread paul beard
Lucas Holt wrote: Darwin (Apple's distro) isn't done yet for x86 platforms. Mac OS X runs the darwin system. Actually, it is running on x86 hardware and has for some time. http://developer.apple.com/darwin/projects/darwin/ -- Paul Beard http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/ whois -h

Re: What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread Bob Hall
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 03:07:39PM +0200, Nico Meijer wrote: Roughly, FreeBSD's mailing lists are friendlier than OpenBSD's, unless (and this can't be stressed enough methinks) you do your homework. So That's correct. There's nothing I hate worse than a FBSD geek who has done all the assigned

Re: What's the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD?

2003-09-17 Thread Lucas Holt
There are actually drivers for darwin now.. my mistake. http://www.opendarwin.org/hardware/ Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) JustJournal.com (Free blogging) Only two things are infinite, the universe and human

Re: What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD...

2002-11-28 Thread Jean-Yves Lefort
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:13:05PM -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD? Which flavor of BSD is the most secure straight out of the box? I asked the same question (or uttered the same troll, some might say) a few months ago: http

What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD...

2002-11-27 Thread Mark Phillips
What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD? Which flavor of BSD is the most secure straight out of the box? Thanks! Mark Phillips To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-questions in the body of the message

Re: What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD...

2002-11-27 Thread Mike Hogsett
What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD? I can't enumarate all the differences, but I know that OpenBSD does not support SMP hardware. Which flavor of BSD is the most secure straight out of the box? The one powered off. I don't know sorry. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD...

2002-11-27 Thread paul beard
Mark Phillips wrote: What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD? there are more similarities than differences. Which flavor of BSD is the most secure straight out of the box? Security is a philosophy and a set of practices, not a feature. The *BSDs offer a lot of security through

Re: What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD...

2002-11-27 Thread BSD baby
(Hey I know it sounds like a stupid question, but I remember asking this same question on this same list many years ago.) What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD? OpenBSD is best for simple things that you think many people might try to hack. Also for anything that has multiple

Re: What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD...

2002-11-27 Thread BSD baby
it sounds like a stupid question, but I remember asking this same question on this same list many years ago.) What is the difference between FreeBSD and OpenBSD? OpenBSD is best for simple things that you think many people might try to hack. Also for anything that has multiple users