of the
relativeadvantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not
used?))
On 27/04/07, Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We don't devote time and
resources into being renaissance people.
Human intelligence is hardly limited in that regard.
While I do not subscribe to the Colin Wilson
On Sat, Apr 28, 2007 at 02:10:16AM -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
The true value of Wikipedia is that it can deal with controversial
subjects. ...
on the other hand, for some instances it doesn't _deal_ with controversial
subjects, but only reflects the most common opinion. Currently(*) the
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:59:43PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen
wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom:
GNOME guy)
describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected
false
information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a
On Apr 25, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:
--On Wednesday, April 25, 2007 15:29:04 -0400 Thomas Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account
banned,
and the head of his
On 27/04/07, Bart Silverstrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We don't devote time and
resources into being renaissance people.
Human intelligence is hardly limited in that regard.
While I do not subscribe to the Colin Wilson theory,
the vast majority of people contain so little information
it is
Ivan Voras wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
Does this test demonstrate usage of memory over 4G? It's my
understanding
that PAE starts to suffer when it has to look at the memory over 4G
(which
is the problem it's intended to solve)
If your entire test fits in under 4G, you're not seeing
: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the
relative
advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))
Bill Moran wrote:
A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom:
GNOME guy)
describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected
false
Dickey; Bill Moran; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Wikipedia's perfection (was Re: Discussion of the
relative
advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))
Bill Moran wrote:
A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom:
GNOME guy
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 09:17:32AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
Perhaps this was all just a devious plan by me to make you all look like
fools by watching your argue about the importance of checking sources
while none of you checked your sources ...
Muhahaha ...
In any event, it's been a
In response to Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 09:17:32AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
Perhaps this was all just a devious plan by me to make you all look like
fools by watching your argue about the importance of checking sources
while none of you checked your sources
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 01:48:46PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
In response to Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you had provided the guy's Wikipedia account, we'd be able to check
*your* sources -- wouldn't we? As long as you don't tell us the
necessary information for checking up on it,
Bill Moran wrote:
Does this test demonstrate usage of memory over 4G? It's my
understanding
that PAE starts to suffer when it has to look at the memory over 4G
(which
is the problem it's intended to solve)
If your entire test fits in under 4G, you're not seeing the worst of it.
At
Le 24/04/2007 à 11:39:46-0700, Don O'Neil a écrit
Thanks for all who pointed out the obvious PAE option...
When I went to rebuild the kernel I got this message:
+++
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc
-I-
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:56:09 -0700
Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2,
...
What if I want to install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16
GB... Do I need to go to the AMD64 platform to get 4GB?
AFAIK all the reasons for staying 32-bit
In response to Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Bill Moran wrote:
Does this test demonstrate usage of memory over 4G? It's my
understanding
that PAE starts to suffer when it has to look at the memory over 4G
(which
is the problem it's intended to solve)
If your entire test
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 08:31:53AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
(of course, everyone knows that Wikipedia is the ultimate source of
information and is infallible, right?)
hardly. I'd expect that most intelligent readers would have encountered
at least one wikipedia article which is inaccurate.
In response to RW [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 10:56:09 -0700
Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2,
...
What if I want to install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16
GB... Do I need to go to the AMD64 platform to get
In response to Thomas Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 08:31:53AM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:
(of course, everyone knows that Wikipedia is the ultimate source of
information and is infallible, right?)
hardly. I'd expect that most intelligent readers would have encountered
On Apr 25, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Bill Moran wrote:
A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME
guy)
describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research
assignment
that involved that
Bill Moran wrote:
A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy)
describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research assignment
that involved that information. Apparently the number of
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:59:43PM +0200, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
Bill Moran wrote:
A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy)
describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
information into Wikipedia, then gave his students a research
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned,
and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism. I
don't suppose you know the name of his Wikipedia account, or his legal
name. . . .
yawn.
--On Wednesday, April 25, 2007 15:29:04 -0400 Thomas Dickey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned,
and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism. I
don't
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 03:29:04PM -0400, Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:15:03PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
No kidding. That professor should have his Wikipedia account banned,
and the head of his department should be informed of his vandalism. I
don't suppose you know the
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:58:55PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I definitely agree that's suboptimal. I'd expand that to include other
sorts of pages, other than webpages, as well. It's pretty rare for this
particular brand of intellectually lazy person to realize that about the
printed page,
On Wednesday 25 April 2007 21:21:47 Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Wed, Apr 25, 2007 at 01:58:55PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
I definitely agree that's suboptimal. I'd expand that to include other
sorts of pages, other than webpages, as well. It's pretty rare for this
particular brand of
of the relative
advantages/disadvantages of PAE (was Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?))
Bill Moran wrote:
A friend of mine going for his Dr. at CMU (Patrick Wagstrom: GNOME guy)
describes an exercise where a professor intentionally injected false
information into Wikipedia, then gave his students
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don O'Neil
Sent: 24 avril 2007 13:56
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Memory 3.5GB not used?
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a
Gigabyte/Nvidia motherboard.
When I boot
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a
Gigabyte/Nvidia motherboard.
When I boot the system up it says on the console that 532888K will be
ignored.
Of course it isn't put in any of the log files. Dmesg shows this:
real
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a
Gigabyte/Nvidia motherboard.
When I boot the system up it says on the console that 532888K will be
ignored.
Of course it isn't put in any of the log files. Dmesg shows this:
real
In response to Jonathan Horne [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a
Gigabyte/Nvidia motherboard.
When I boot the system up it says on the console that 532888K will be
ignored.
Of course it
Don O'Neil wrote:
Any reason the extra 1/2 GB isn't showing up or usable? Is there something I
need to specify in the kernel to get to the other 1/2 GB? What if I want to
install more than 4GB? This mobo supports up to 16 GB... Do I need to go to
the AMD64 platform to get 4GB?
You need a PAE
Message-
From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:05 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram and a
Gigabyte
.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:05 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I just built a new server with an Athlon 64 x2, 4GB Ram
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?
On 4/24/07, Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for all who pointed out the obvious PAE option...
When I went to rebuild the kernel I got this message:
+++
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?
On 4/24/07, Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for all who pointed out the obvious PAE option...
When I went to rebuild the kernel I got this message:
+++
cc -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE
or WITHOUT_MODULES options to make.conf.
man 5 make.conf for more details.
-Original Message-
From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:05 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?
In response to Don
, 2007 11:55 AM
To: Don O'Neil
Cc: 'Andy Greenwood'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Memory 3.5GB not used?
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I never had this problem before when I built the kernel the first time.
Could my module source be corrupt? If so, how do I re-install
Jonathan Horne wrote:
i have a system with 4GB memory, doing the same similar behavior. but, on top
of not using the last few hundred megs of ram, even the POST shows like 3.6 or
3.7GB of ram. is PAE still a solution for my case?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dmesg | grep memory
real memory =
Bill Moran wrote:
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I never had this problem before when I built the kernel the first time.
Could my module source be corrupt? If so, how do I re-install just the
kernel sources for 6.1?
Not all modules work with PAE. Read the example PAE kernel
In response to Ivan Voras [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Bill Moran wrote:
In response to Don O'Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I never had this problem before when I built the kernel the first time.
Could my module source be corrupt? If so, how do I re-install just the
kernel sources for 6.1?
Not
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