Re[2]: good replacement for open office

2007-10-06 Thread Gerard
On October 06, 2007 at 01:42AM Erich Dollansky wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? As well as potentially allowing your documents to be viewed by anyone with the time and or knowledge to hack into your account. No thanks, I certainly would not want

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-06 Thread icantthinkofone
Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, do you really want the world to know what you are writing? icantthinkofone wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-06 Thread Wojciech Puchar
nobody intelligent (or completely not caring about it) use any of big public mail/news/etc services. as google gets stronger and stronger just means that for most people using brain is too painful. but it's really worth of do you really want the world to know what you are writing?

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: nobody intelligent (or completely not caring about it) use any of big public mail/news/etc services. There are two separate concerns here. 1. General Privacy: If you're concerned with your documents and communications being

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-06 Thread icantthinkofone
Chad Perrin wrote: On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: nobody intelligent (or completely not caring about it) use any of big public mail/news/etc services. There are two separate concerns here. 1. General Privacy: If you're concerned with your documents

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-06 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 03:51:49PM -0500, icantthinkofone wrote: Chad Perrin wrote:

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-06 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Oct 06, 2007 at 09:34:41AM -0500, icantthinkofone wrote: Erich Dollansky wrote: Hi, do you really want the world to know what you are writing? icantthinkofone wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? Erich

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-05 Thread michaelgrunewald
Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mine are always heavy in equations and chemistry. I had a five minute try of openoffice writer's equation editor, and my first impression was that it renders equations very poorly. It seems to do this even worse thant MS Word. Since you seem to use the

Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)

2007-10-05 Thread Frank Jahnke
Since you seem to use the equation feature quite intensively, maybe you have any clue on making the equation editor perform better. Sorry I can't really be of much help with OO.o equations. What I do personally is a kludge, but it works well enough. For documents that I create for read-only

Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)

2007-10-05 Thread Andrew Gould
On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since you seem to use the equation feature quite intensively, maybe you have any clue on making the equation editor perform better. Sorry I can't really be of much help with OO.o equations. What I do personally is a kludge, but it works

Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)

2007-10-05 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just use Word in a VM and am done with it. Have you

Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)

2007-10-05 Thread Andrew Gould
On 10/4/07, Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Oct 05, 2007 at 12:34:00PM -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've given up on trying to find a BSD or Linux program that is good enough for this purpose -- none really are. So I just

Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)

2007-10-05 Thread Wojciech Puchar
Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all i'm not top-flight scientist but i was able to learn latex... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To

Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)

2007-10-05 Thread Frank Jahnke
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 20:13 +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Word rather than try to teach them troff (or TeX). While they are all i'm not top-flight scientist but i was able to learn latex... That may be true, but trust me, the faculty with whom I work just would not do it. No way, no how,

Re: Equations (WAS: good replacement for open office)

2007-10-05 Thread Frank Jahnke
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 12:34 -0500, Andrew Gould wrote: Have you tried LyX? I'm aware of it, and will indeed try it one of these days, but that is not the issue. I'm fine with troff -- I've used it for so many years that I can get it to jump through hoops. Time has passed it by, though, so

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-05 Thread icantthinkofone
Frank Jahnke wrote: what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) You really have to decide what you want to suite to do. Otherwise, your problem is underspecified. 1) Collaboration (complex). If you

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-05 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, do you really want the world to know what you are writing? icantthinkofone wrote: Frank Jahnke wrote: Why not use Google Docs? And ask NSA in case you need a backup? Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Boris Samorodov
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64. replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) WBR

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Aryeh Friedman
since when... tried it last week and nothing On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64.

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Robert Huff
Aryeh Friedman writes: editors/openoffice.org-2 does compile at 7-current amd64. since when... tried it last week and nothing Don't know how it affects amd64, but I know patches have been committed in the last calendar week. What would not build on i386 then just finished building

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Boris Samorodov
Please, don't top-post. On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:00:03 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good editors/openoffice.org-2

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Predrag Punosevac
Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread usleepless
On 10/4/07, Aryeh Friedman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) abiword, gnumeric ___

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Henry Lenzi
If you don't mind paying for software, I think you'll find SoftMaker's Textmaker and Planmaker tools wholly satisfatory. Their spreadsheets is fully compatible with Excel. They make their products for FreeBSD. Additionally, if you find quirks, they answer you (once I even saw one of their guys

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please, don't top-post. On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:00:03 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: On 10/4/07, Boris Samorodov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:39:39 + Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread NetOpsCenter
Aryeh Friedman wrote: Open office does not compile on 7-current amd64 what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? no -- huge library mismatches -- Philip M. Gollucci

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread RW
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:00:10 -0400 Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT? no -- huge library mismatches Why? Isn't

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On 10/5/07, RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:00:10 -0400 Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and have it work on 7 CURRENT?

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread RW
On Fri, 5 Oct 2007 01:11:04 +0100 RW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 20:00:10 -0400 Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NetOpsCenter wrote: I have a working Open office on a FreeBSD 4.11 box here that I use when all else fails. Is there a way to copy that and

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Frank Jahnke
what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) You really have to decide what you want to suite to do. Otherwise, your problem is underspecified. 1) Collaboration (complex). If you collaborate with colleagues who

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Aryeh Friedman
On 10/5/07, Frank Jahnke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what would be a good replacement(s) for most of it's functionality (word processing and spreadsheets are what matter to me) You really have to decide what you want to suite to do. Otherwise, your problem is underspecified. 1)

Re: good replacement for open office

2007-10-04 Thread Frank Jahnke
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 01:20 +, Aryeh Friedman wrote: 1) Collaboration (complex). Read/write .doc, pdf and rtf mainly 2) Document creation. WYSIWYG editing for the above including embedded graphics and equations I also want to keep the learn curve as small as possible (I know