lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 installation procedures broken after updates

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Bennett
On Thursday about two and a half weeks ago, updates came through for lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 that resulted in broken installation procedures, although both ports appeared to build correctly. Here are the relevant messages from lang/gcc43. (lang/gcc44 appeared to fail installation in

Re: Disk vs Disc (was: WD External Disc Drive)

2009-10-27 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:29 am, Chris Rees wrote: I have always considered hard disk, floppy diskette, and compact disc (and digital versatile disc) to be the terminology; but then again the official British spelling is disc, whereas AFAICR the US spelling is disk. What organisation defines

gcc -pg and ld error, cannot find -lgcc_p

2009-10-27 Thread freebsd
On 7.2-RELEASE-p4, I have a very complicated C program: int main(int argc, char** argv) { return 5; } I can compile this program (cc example.c -o example) and it compiles and runs fine. However, if I try to enable profiling of this program by compiling it

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Jonathan McKeown
On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail trots out a bunch of

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? The configuration is opaque, to put it kindly.

Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Grünewald Michaël
Dear list, after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is installed on has bad sectors. I am looking for advices on how to recover from

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread perryh
... If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people does not invalidate the dictionary spellings

Re: howto use https in favour of http

2009-10-27 Thread Scott Bennett
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 23:40:48 -0400 Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote: Steve Bertrand wrote: Alexander Best wrote: Olivier Nicole schrieb am 2009-10-27: Hi, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so

Re: gcc -pg and ld error, cannot find -lgcc_p

2009-10-27 Thread Vaibhav Gavane
Use sysinstall to add the proflibs distribution. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
Grünewald Michaël wrote: Dear list, after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is installed on has bad sectors. I am looking for advices on

Re: Disk vs Disc (was: WD External Disc Drive)

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
2009/10/26 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk: Chris Rees wrote: I have always considered hard disk, floppy diskette, and compact disc (and digital versatile disc) to be the terminology; but then again the official British spelling is disc, whereas AFAICR the US spelling is disk.

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:06:30 -0400 PJ PJ af.gour...@videotron.ca replied: Thank you very much Herbert, I appreciate your input. As I wrote in my original query, I had auccessfully installed the lilnux-flashplugin9 on FreeBSD 7.2 both on a 64 bit portable _ Acer Travelmate 4400 - and on a couple

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:16:07 + Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk replied: Gr_newald Micha_l wrote: Dear list, after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. Starting the machine by other

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system. But quite a few people do use it, and many FreeBSD developers are happy with the status quo, so it is unlikely that sendmail

Re: lang/gcc43 and lang/gcc44 installation procedures broken after updates

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
Scott Bennet wrote: There haven't been much changes in the infrastructure of these two ports recently, so any problems are probably arising from changes in the distfiles, or problems in your base system or the ports that are used to build and install lang/gcc4X. === Starting check for runtime

Re: gcc -pg and ld error, cannot find -lgcc_p

2009-10-27 Thread Robert Huff
Vaibhav Gavane writes: Use sysinstall to add the proflibs distribution. Or one could rebuild/install world (and kernel if necessary) after investigating the NO_PROFILE option in /etc/make.conf. Robert Huff

Re: howto use https in favour of http

2009-10-27 Thread Michael Powell
Scott Bennett wrote: Alexander Best wrote: Hi, i've added the following line to my /etc/hosts: permail.uni-muenster.de:25 permail.uni-muenster.de:443 so what i want is for freebsd to never use http, but https for that address. [snip] Perhaps the easiest direct solution is to

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 12:55:51AM -0700, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: ... If you are refering to a kind of hard disk, use disk with k. Think like diskette. If you are refering to optical media, use disc with c. Think like CD = compact disc. An arbitrary convention adopted

PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread Dánielisz László
Hello, I am looking to configure my FreeBSD 8.0 machine for the purpose specified in the subject. Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if (for wan/pppoe connection) and int_if for my LAN. How would you manage to get work NAT with pf using PPPoE from my ISP; I'd like to use DHCP on my LAN.

Re: Looking for troubleshooting tips.

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Halliday
I shift deleted my inbox and lost all of the original replies :( anyway... I have another sensor that just started to exhibit this same behavior. This time though, I have some more info: swap_pager_getswapspace(4): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed swap_pager_getswapspace(16): failed

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:27:23 +1030, Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net wrote: An arbitrary convention adopted by you and a few other people does not invalidate the dictionary spellings and usage. As I mentioned before, the (hard) disk vs. (optical) disc differentiation seems to be quite

Re: WD External Disc Drive

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:21:37 +1030, Malcolm Kay malcolm@internode.on.net wrote: Further, If we look at some acronyms associated with optical media we have: CD - Compact Disc DVD - Digital Video Disc but: UDF - Universal Disk Format (The file system frequently used on CDs and DVDs)

binary upgrade 6.1 - 7.2/8.0

2009-10-27 Thread Robin Becker
Is it feasible to upgrade a system from 6.1 to 7.2 or 8.0-RC1 and if yes what sequence of upgrades should I actually carry out ie is it feasible to do 6.1-6.2 and then 6.2 - 7.2 or should it be done in small steps? -- Robin Becker ___

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:31:18AM +0100, Grünewald Michaël wrote: Dear list, after an incorrect power-off of my FreeBSD system, it does not boot any more, BTX stops even before showing the cute beastie menu. Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 08:31:18 +0100, Grünewald Michaël michaelgrunew...@yahoo.fr wrote: Starting the machine by other means, I found that the hard-drive is installed on has bad sectors. I am looking for advices on how to recover from this, if possible. If there's data on the disk you want

Re: Looking for troubleshooting tips.

2009-10-27 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Paul Halliday paul.halli...@gmail.comwrote: I shift deleted my inbox and lost all of the original replies :( anyway... I have another sensor that just started to exhibit this same behavior. This time though, I have some more info: swap_pager_getswapspace(4):

Re: howto use https in favour of http

2009-10-27 Thread RW
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:29:13 +0100 (CET) Alexander Best alexbes...@math.uni-muenster.de wrote: i'm not using a webserver or anything. i'm just a regular user. the point is: i often forget to specify https://... for that specific address in apps like lynx or firefox. that's why the non-ssl

Re: PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT), Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I am looking to configure my FreeBSD 8.0 machine for the purpose specified in the subject. Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if (for wan/pppoe connection) and int_if for my LAN. How

Re: PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com wrote: Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if (for wan/pppoe connection) and int_if for my LAN. How would you manage to get work NAT with pf using PPPoE from my ISP As a start your pf.conf could look a

Re: auto format and partion p.s.

2009-10-27 Thread Robert
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 05:29:16 +1000 da...@hushmail.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 ps. is there a step by step document somwhere??? On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:50:16 +1000 Robert travelin...@cox.net wrote: On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:23:35 +1000 da...@hushmail.com

Re: PPPoE client+pf+nat

2009-10-27 Thread RW
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:51:26 -0700 (PDT) Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I am looking to configure my FreeBSD 8.0 machine for the purpose specified in the subject. Let's say I have two NICs in my PC: ext_if (for wan/pppoe connection) and int_if for my LAN. How

Using bash with MySQL

2009-10-27 Thread carmel_ny
I am in the process of writting a script that will use MySQL as a back end. For the most part, I have gotten things to work correctly. I am having one problem though. Assume a data base: database: MyDataBase table: MyTable field: defaults Now, I have populated the 'defaults' fields with the

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Tuesday, October 27, 2009 04:13:52 -0500 Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: That is precisely why I keep an XP box nearby. There is no way in hell that I would want to personally, or expect a colleague for that matter, to waste valuable time getting a simple plug-in to work; especially since I

Re: Using bash with MySQL

2009-10-27 Thread Matthew Seaman
carmel_ny wrote: I am in the process of writting a script that will use MySQL as a back end. For the most part, I have gotten things to work correctly. I am having one problem though. Assume a data base: database: MyDataBase table: MyTable field: defaults Now, I have populated the 'defaults'

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system. But quite a few people do use it, and many FreeBSD developers are

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Monday 26 October 2009 11:06:47 pm Olivier Nicole wrote: How many people actually use it? Very few. Out of the 12 or 15 servers I run, only one do not use stock sendmail: the mail server. So one out of twelve is rather quite a lot... Let me get this .. are you saying that out of 12

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 5:16:30 am Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Hard to tell .. and,

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:43:39 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system.

PAM and xdm woes

2009-10-27 Thread Rolf G Nielsen
Hi, Every time I start xdm I get the following message on ttyv0, xdm: pam_sm_close_session(): no utmp record for :0 Everything seems to work just fine. I can log in, and everything runs as expected, so it's basically just an annoyance, especially since I don't know whether I should be

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Erik Norgaard
Jonathan McKeown wrote: Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you suggesting the system ship with no way to handle mail? This thread moving of topic from OP, but it is always fair to debate what

Re: changing cron's From: address in emails

2009-10-27 Thread Kelly Martin
On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:19 AM, krad kra...@googlemail.com wrote: On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 01:08:21 -0600 Kelly Martin kellymar...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, here's a simple question for the FreeBSD gurus out there. I have several servers running cron scripts daily for me, and they all

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:00:07 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:43:39 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports?

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:32, Bill Moran wmo...@potentialtech.com wrote: In response to Yuri y...@rawbw.com: Besides, if it's not there, how are you going to send mail from things like cron? Postfix. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Kurt Buff
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 00:16, Jonathan McKeown j.mcke...@ru.ac.za wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Almost everyone

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Green! No, no, Blue! AA -- Lowell Gilbert, embedded/networking software engineer, Boston area http://be-well.ilk.org/~lowell/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: Jonathan McKeown wrote: Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you suggesting the system ship with no way to handle mail? This thread

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:16:14 am Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:47:12 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:00:07 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: - Import your MTA of choice in a local branch. - Integrate the $NEWMTA with the base system of FreeBSD. - Update the manpages and documentation for

bind configuration issues

2009-10-27 Thread Ray
Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers

bind configuration issues

2009-10-27 Thread Ray
Hello, I am adding a redundant Internet connection to my current hosting setup and I need to figure out how to set up the DNS to make this work. Current setup: freebsd 7.0 machine, one local IP address, runs web, mail, and name server. static ip address in router. I have two DNS servers

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? What

Re: Using bash with MySQL

2009-10-27 Thread carmel_ny
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:17:55 + Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk replied: carmel_ny wrote: I am in the process of writting a script that will use MySQL as a back end. For the most part, I have gotten things to work correctly. I am having one problem though. Assume a data

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 5:24:58 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:47:12 -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:00:07 pm Giorgos Keramidas wrote: - Import your MTA of choice in a local branch. - Integrate the $NEWMTA with the base

Re: Bad sectors: how bad can it be

2009-10-27 Thread Michaël Grünewald
Many thanks to the contributors of the list for their input on this question! I always got quick and detailed answer to my questions on this list, which is very appreciable in this time of (small) trouble. (I feel sorry for the very poor english I demonstrated in the message I wrote this

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread ill...@gmail.com
2009/10/27 Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? Obviously, not everyone wants or needs sendmail in the base system. But quite a few people do

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: [big snip] Until then, the status quo is here because it works, it has been stable for a very long time, and it serves its current purpose well enough. I don't use sendmail but it's easy enough to build a different MTA out

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:18:33 pm ill...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/27 Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:32:14 am b. f. wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually use it? Very few. Why isn't it moved to ports? Obviously, not everyone

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. How many people actually

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: [big snip] Until then, the status quo is here because it works, it has been stable for a very long time, and it serves its current purpose well enough. I don't

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
That is precisely why I keep an XP box nearby. There is no way in hell that I would want to personally, or expect a colleague for that matter, to waste valuable time getting a simple plug-in to work; especially since I can do it in a matter of seconds on a Microsoft product. Strange..

Re: [freebsd-questions] in subject line

2009-10-27 Thread Chris Whitehouse
Chuck Swiger wrote: Hi, Chris-- On Oct 26, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Chris Whitehouse wrote: Some mailing lists I am on automatically insert the mailing list name in square brackets into the subject line. I find this quite useful for setting up filters in thunderbird to drop different lists into

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lowell Gilbert
I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat... Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com writes: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I can imagine that a lot of people do use sendmail - it's documented in

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:03:12PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: Jonathan McKeown wrote: Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread PJ
Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: That is precisely why I keep an XP box nearby. There is no way in hell that I would want to personally, or expect a colleague for that matter, to waste valuable time getting a simple plug-in to work; especially since I can do it in a matter of seconds on a

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Robert
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:54:44 -0400 Lowell Gilbert freebsd-questions-lo...@be-well.ilk.org wrote: Green! No, no, Blue! AA I think it should be disque shaped. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:22:22 pm Lowell Gilbert wrote: I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat... Gonzalo Nemmi gne...@gmail.com writes: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 6:20:35 pm Frank Shute wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 09:24:58PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: I can

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread Sergio de Almeida Lenzi
Ok... supose you use FreeBSD 7.2 P3 (last version) but the RELEASE should work too.. supose you use AMD64 1) compile a custom kernel with SEM (semaphore enable) (sem_enable=YES) in the loader.conf 2) deinstall all linux stuff, remove the /compat/linux from the system, deinstall all pkg

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Gonzalo Nemmi
On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:03:12PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: Jonathan McKeown wrote: Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:45:59PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 05:03:12PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 4:32:45 pm Erik Norgaard wrote: Jonathan McKeown wrote: Just as a

Re: gcc -pg and ld error, cannot find -lgcc_p

2009-10-27 Thread freebsd
Use sysinstall to add the proflibs distribution. Or one could rebuild/install world (and kernel if necessary) after investigating the NO_PROFILE option in /etc/make.conf. There's only a PERL_VERSION in make.conf. Since sysinstall doesn't work (this is -p4, not a base media install),

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:22:22 pm Lowell Gilbert wrote: I probably should move this bikeshed to freebsd-chat... I'd like the bikeshed blue, please. Also, since Sendmail has reached maturity, let's baptize it now instead of during infancy, and add a knob

Re: Partitions per slice limitation removed?

2009-10-27 Thread Andrew Von Cid
Hi, No, you were not dreaming. When in doubt, check the source. From head/sbin/bsdlabel/bsdlabel.c [1]: Allow bsdlabel to operate on labels that have at most 26 partitions by virtue of there not being any (lower-case) letters avaliable for more partitions. [1]

What causes random disk access slow down

2009-10-27 Thread Jin Guojun
A 6-7 years old Xeon dual 2.4MHz CPU machine runs FreeBSD 6.4-Release suddenly becomes slow on some tasks requiring disk access. Typical things like ls, objdump etc. Be more specific, a couple of minutes objdump became a several hours job. A several seconds ls -RC became a 15-minute task (see

Re: What causes random disk access slow down

2009-10-27 Thread phantomcircuit
How full are the disks? Jin Guojun wrote: A 6-7 years old Xeon dual 2.4MHz CPU machine runs FreeBSD 6.4-Release suddenly becomes slow on some tasks requiring disk access. Typical things like ls, objdump etc. Be more specific, a couple of minutes objdump became a several hours job. A several

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Robert
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:00:25 -0400 Jerry McAllister jerr...@msu.edu wrote: Fit the bill ... well.. so did the Geocentric model .. and it actually did work just as fine .. and even better yet since it also mantained the status quo ! ... but then Galileo came and you know the rest of

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/10/27 Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Jonathan McKeown wrote: On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: It's in

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: You guessed wrong. We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into sendmail.cf. You write sendmail.mc and compile it. Sendmail.mc on my system is less than 50 lines long, including comments.

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, pete wright wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: You guessed wrong. We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into sendmail.cf. You write sendmail.mc and compile it. Sendmail.mc on my system is less

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, pete wright wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: You guessed wrong. We use m4, which cuts out most of the crap that you had to write into

what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread George Sanders
I've been doing this dance: ../configure ; make ; make install for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but nothing too crazy. I tried to build 'git' from source today, however, and it doesn't behave like anything I've ever seen... I do the ./configure and it

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:38 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting language to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why people are clinging like grim death to something this fubar. Really,

Re: what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:33:03 -0700 (PDT), George Sanders gosand1...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been doing this dance: ../configure ; make ; make install for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but nothing too crazy. I tried to build 'git' from source today, however,

Re: what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 8:33 PM, George Sanders gosand1...@yahoo.comwrote: I've been doing this dance: ../configure ; make ; make install for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but nothing too crazy. I tried to build 'git' from source today, however, and it

Re: what is special about the 'git' Makefile ?

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
George Sanders wrote: I've been doing this dance: You haven't been out on the floor nearly often enough, it seems. Better dust off those blue suede shoes. :) ../configure ; make ; make install for about ten years now. Sometimes there are some little issues, but nothing too crazy. I tried to

win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
I am about to go out and buy windows 7 to replace my vista partition... when I installed vista I had to do some boot manager tricks (both before and after install)... namely I had to allow windows to nuke my mbr then use EasyBCD to remake it in such a way that vista would still find it's

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Frank Shute
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:45:59PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: [snippage] So, that leaves personal preference as the only real reason for wanting to replace it. Let me get this straight .. that means that every Linux

Re: win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Aryeh M. Friedman
Jack L. wrote: I was able to dual boot win7 and freebsd 8 without any problem, just installed windows first and installed freebsd with the freebsd boot manager and it said F1 windows and the rest are FreeBSD I am attempting to avoid having to reinstall the fb side of things ;-) On Tue, Oct

Re: win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Jack L.
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote: Jack L. wrote: I was able to dual boot win7 and freebsd 8 without any problem, just installed windows first and installed freebsd with the freebsd boot manager and it said F1 windows and the rest are FreeBSD

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread pete wright
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:14 PM, Frank Shute fr...@shute.org.uk wrote: On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 08:45:59PM -0200, Gonzalo Nemmi wrote: On Tuesday 27 October 2009 7:31:34 pm Jerry McAllister wrote: [snippage] So, that leaves personal preference as the only real reason for wanting to

Re: win 7 dual boot

2009-10-27 Thread Jack L.
I was able to dual boot win7 and freebsd 8 without any problem, just installed windows first and installed freebsd with the freebsd boot manager and it said F1 windows and the rest are FreeBSD On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Aryeh M. Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote: I am about to go out

Re: flashplugin

2009-10-27 Thread PJ
Sergio de Almeida Lenzi wrote: Ok... supose you use FreeBSD 7.2 P3 (last version) but the RELEASE should work too.. supose you use AMD64 1) compile a custom kernel with SEM (semaphore enable) (sem_enable=YES) in the loader.conf 2) deinstall all linux stuff, remove the /compat/linux

How to display back trace automatically after seg fault?

2009-10-27 Thread Pierre-Luc Drouin
Hi, How can I make FreeBSD to display automatically the backtrace of an executable after a segmentation fault (the same way Linux does it)? I prefer this option by default rather than a core dump. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread Lars Eighner
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:24:38 -0500 (CDT), Lars Eighner luvbeas...@larseighner.com wrote: Evidently by making it necessary to learn yet another scripting language to configure it. Other than personal profit I cannot see why people are clinging

Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package?

2009-10-27 Thread b. f.
Lars Eighner wrote: Evidently my package database is corrupt in some way, because it shows m4 as an installed port. I wonder how that happened, how to fix it, and if it will bite if I leave it alone. The GNU version of m4 is a FreeBSD Port, devel/m4. The base system m4(1) was originally based