Re: cvsup doc-all

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:51:07 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep.  If you think a bit about it, you will see it makes more sense.
 What is it that you download with src-all?  The sources of the system.
 The doc-all collection downloads the sources of the documentation.

aha but all docs will be updated when you do a buildworld right ?

 Look at `/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk'.  It has a huge list of sites where
 port distfiles are downloaded from.  You can tweak this list by setting
 similar variables in your `/etc/make.conf' file, i.e.:
 
 MASTER_SITE_GNU?=   ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/gnu/%SUBDIR%/
 
 Note the conditional assignment with ?= there.  The 'make.conf' file
 should very rarely set things unconditionally, with FOO=bar.

so basicly you dont have to worry about ports server because it will
find the best server by it self ?

why does cvsup not work the same way ?
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Re: Witch apache, mysql and php do i need ?

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:46:09 +0100, christophe ollier
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It seems your ports index is missing. I think you can try this to make
 another one :
 
 cd /usr/ports
 make fetchindex
 portsdb -u
 

woh :)

7rxI# make pretty-print-run-depends-list
This port requires package(s) apache-1.3.33_1 expat-1.95.8
fontconfig-2.2.3,1 freetype2-2.1.7_4 jpeg-6b_3 mysql-client-4.0.23a
openssl-0.9.7e_2 pdflib-6.0.1_1 pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 perl-5.8.5
php4-4.3.10_2 php4-bz2-4.3.10_2 php4-gd-4.3.10_2 php4-mysql-4.3.10_2
php4-openssl-4.3.10_2 php4-pcre-4.3.10_2 php4-zlib-4.3.10_2
pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 png-1.2.8 t1lib-5.0.1,1 xorg-libraries-6.8.1_1 to
run.
7rxI#

still see apache-1.3.33 doh aldo i said in make.cong to pic 2.1 ?

7rxI# cat /etc/make.conf
CPUTYPE?=amd64
CFLAGS= -O -pipe
COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe
DOC_LANG= en_US.ISO8859-1
X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg
WITH_LAME= yes
PERL_VER=5.8.5
PERL_VERSION=5.8.5
PERL_ARCH=mach
NOPERL=yo
NO_PERL=yo
NO_PERL_WRAPPER=yo
WITH_APACHE2=yes
APACHE_PORT=www/apache21
DEFAULT_PHP_VER=5
WITH_MYSQL_VER=50
7rxI#
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Re: sshd_config / failed authentication

2005-01-28 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 28), Fabian Anklam said:
 On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 02:21:08 +0100, Fabian Anklam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  could someone be so kind to point out to me which settings in
  sshd_config have to be changed to allow login from an ssh client
  without getting authentication failed messages on the console and
  a timeout on the guest machine.
  
  My client, putty in this case display the login: dialog, but after
  entering the username hangs without ever displaying the password:
  dialog

Try killing the sshd daemon and running sshd -Ddd, which will print
out lots of information during authentication.

  My FreeBSD5.3 Release box ps -aux reveals:
  
  root722  0.0  0.7  3360 2812  ??  Is   12:12AM   0:00.01 sshd
  root755  0.0  0.8  4720 2920  ??  Is   12:29AM   0:00.05 sshd: 
  [accepted] (sshd)
  sshd756  0.0  0.8  4792 2936  ??  S12:29AM   0:00.18 sshd: [net] 
  (sshd)
  root760  0.0  0.1   348  232  v0  R+   12:29AM   0:00.00 grep sshd

truss -d output of the two ssh processes might be useful too, if the
sshd debugging output doesn't point to anything obvious.

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Re: ATA problem

2005-01-28 Thread BSD Mail
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 21:25:41 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Are you using an old ordinary IDE cable or the super special high
 density go-fast new style IDE cable?
 
 Ted
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of BSD Mail
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:28 PM
  To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: ATA problem
 
 
  Hello, I'm having a problem installing any version of FreeBSD 5.2 and
  above on a EIDE Western Digital Caviar 80GB. That system was running
  4.x without any problems for over 2 years. When I planned to install
  5.3 I got the error below. I thought at first it's HD jumper settings
  not that I changed the current settings Then I thought it's the IDE
  bus. I did further debugging. I installed different types of Linux and
  Windows 2k and I got no problem with the HD.  I'm able to install
  FreeBSD 5.1 and any prior release with no problem.
 
  I read some threads about 5.3 having problems with some IDEs. If
  that's the case, what is your suggestion ? I want to take advantage of
  the nice features in 5.3 plus I got my DVD burner identified for the
  first time under 5.3.
 
  After I boot from CD to proceed with a clean install. When I get
  hardware probing, as I reach  the 'ata' part I get the message below
  and everything just freeze there. I have to do a hard boot.
 
  ad0: 76293MB WDC WD800BB-75FRA0 [155009/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100
  ata1-master: FAILURE - ATA_IDENTIFY
  status=7fREADY,DMA_READY,DSC,DRQ,CORRECT,INDEX,ERROR
  error=7fUNCORRECTABLE,MEDIA_CHANGED,NID_NOT_FOUND,MEDIA_CHAN..
 REQUEST,ABORTED,NO_MEDIA,ILLEGAL_LENGTH
  LBA=0
 
  Thank you,
 
  --
  Regards,

I'm using the same cables I've been using for long time. A round
Single IDE Ultra ATA Cable, 40c/80p  18 inch. I'm using the same exact
cable on 5 other FreeBSD machines with no problem at all.
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Re: HELP!!!: I've accidentally deleted /dev

2005-01-28 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 27), Mark Jayson Alvarez said:
   I was playing with file flags and decided to change the entire /
 hierarchy with uunlnk. After doing that, I've cd into one of my
 file folders and then tried rm -rf *. It says operation not
 permitted. It worked. The uunlnk file flag worked. So I immediately
 cd'd into / and tried doing the same thing(rm -rf *). It was too late
 when I found out the the entries in my /dev/ wasn't affected when I
 chflags -R /. And then all of my devices were gone.
 I need a serious help now. Is there a way I can bring
 them back?

/dev/ on FreeBSD 5.* is a pseudo filesystem generated dynamically by
the kernel.  You can try running devfs rule apply unhide to ask the
kernel to put back all the devices it knows about, but any permissions
or symlinks created by the boot process will not be there.  A reboot
will put everything back to normal.

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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports


 On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
   Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
   Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
  
   On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hi All,
   
  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
/usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is
a P75, unfortunately)
   
  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
  
   If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
   cd /usr/ports
   make fetchindex
  
   The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
   :).
 
  Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that the
  rest of the ports directories were copied from.
 

 You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
 many months
 it has been removed from ports.


Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?

Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
the CDROMS in the first place.

INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports could
be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is static,
not dynamic.

Please note the following:

http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html

Now, notice down there:

Final package build starts

Note any ACTUAL date?

Obviously whomever was supposed to do the ports stuff for the release
didn't follow the procedure exactly correctly, they probably cvsupped
the ports at the last minute and forgot to fetch the INDEX, same as
they forgot to update the release schedule.

Ted

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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael Johnson
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On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hi All,
  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
/usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this is
a P75, unfortunately)
  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex
The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
:).
Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that the
rest of the ports directories were copied from.
You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
many months
it has been removed from ports.
Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
the CDROMS in the first place.
INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports could
be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is static,
not dynamic.
Please note the following:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz for at 
least RELEASES.

Michael
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RE: ATA problem

2005-01-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of BSD Mail
 Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:19 AM
 To: FreeBSD-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Subject: Re: ATA problem
 
 
 I'm using the same cables I've been using for long time. A round
 Single IDE Ultra ATA Cable, 40c/80p  18 inch. I'm using the same exact
 cable on 5 other FreeBSD machines with no problem at all.

Have you downloaded Wdc_cfg.zip from the Western Digital website and
firmware updated your EIDE drive?
Go to software  drivers, WD Caviar 7200RPM, IDE RAID compatibility
upgrade, Non-3ware cards.

While this is supposed to help only for RAID it might help for you.
Apparently WD introduced some goofy timeout thing for these drives
to reduces idle acoustic noise in desktop drives


Ted
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Marvell sk98lin module for FreeBSD installation

2005-01-28 Thread Vincent Bachelier
Hi,
I have a Marvell sk98lin gigabit card (sk98lin is the
linux module, I think sk is the equivalent)
I could not install freeBSD by network because of the
non detection of this card.
How can I solve the problem ?
Do you have a method to make me able to use FreeBSD ?

Perhaps get 2 iso file, and then after I could get the
sk module for freeBSD and recompile the kernel for
support ?

Well Thx for support

--
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Re: Keep compile options through upgrade

2005-01-28 Thread Olivier Certner
 Thanks for these 2 answers. I didn't have seen this file mentioned in the 
portupgrade manpage, so I could have been searching for a while before 
finding...

Le Vendredi 28 Janvier 2005 00:45, Glenn E. Sieb a écrit :
 Olivier Certner wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  Is there an easy way to keep/retrieve the options last used to compile a
 given port? This could be used with portupgrade to upgrade to a newer
  version while retaining the previous build-time configuration (of course
  this won't work if the options available change).
 
  Maybe I could put all the options in make.conf, but in this case I fear
  that this file would become really messy. Moreover, if options are shared
  by several ports, no fine grain tuning per port will be possible.
 
  Any advices?

 Check /usr/local/etc/pkgtools.conf

 Some ports keep things in /var/db/ports too...

 Best,
 --Glenn
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Re: 5.3 interrupt storm (atapicam) and I/O error

2005-01-28 Thread Olivier Certner
 Hi,

 Could you give a look at my post dated 04/01/2005 entitled Freeze with CAM 
(using KsCD)? Maybe we have fallen on the same kind of bug concerning 
atapicam.

 If you have KDE, maybe you should try to reproduce the problem I had. I've no 
time to test your scenario (the one with the EIDE drive, I don't have SCSI) 
now, but I'll try to reproduce it at the beginning of next week, in order to 
see if the freeze happens also on my computer.

 Hope this will help us to progress on our issues.

 Regards,

  Olivier
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Re: realplayer-10

2005-01-28 Thread Joerg Pulz
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On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Skylar Thompson wrote:
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 08:45:01PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
People,
Does anybody know why I'm getting this err output
from the FBSD mozilla?
pd 12:05 zen [1353] LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library
/usr/local/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so [Shared object
libstdc++.so.5 not found, required by nphelix.so]
locate nphelix.so
/usr/X11R6/lib/browser_plugins/nphelix.so
/usr/local/lib/linux-mozilla/plugins/nphelix.so
I don't run linux-mozilla on my laptop; I *have* installed
the linuxpluginwrapper port.
Do you have the linux_base package installed? You'll need that for
libstdc++.so.5, which is the library that you're missing.
if you have installed the linuxpluginwrapper port, you should have seen 
a message generated by the port, how to setup your /etc/libmap.conf file 
to get the different plugins working with a native FreeBSD browser.

you should take a look at the examples in the
/usr/local/share/examples/linuxpluginwrapper/
directory.
they contain a section for the realplayer-10 plugin. after adding the 
necessary lines to your /etc/libmap.conf and restarting mozilla, the 
shouldn't appear and about:plugins should show the plugin.

regards
Joerg
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Re: RAID1, a failed disk and performance

2005-01-28 Thread Christian Hiris
On Thursday 27 January 2005 23:12:23, Chad Morland wrote:
  http://members.chello.at/freebsd-5.3/bonnie-gmirror/summary
  http://members.chello.at/freebsd-5.3/bonnie-gmirror/detail

 I expect to see data transfer rate increase when you break the mirror.
 RAID1 has the higest disk overhead of all RAID configurations and is
 very inefficient in that regard. It would be interesting to see
 performance results with the bad disk still attached to the mirror.
 Unfortunately I am not able to break disks on a whim so I can't test
 it out. :P

I also run the bechmarks with the gnop class invoked. It seems that the 'gnop 
-f nnn' option doesn't work, so that I couldn't observe any significant 
performance differences. I own several really nice broken IBM SCSI disks, but 
they are broken in such a way, that the mirrors break immediately after 
hitting the damaged areas. Maybe it's the better solution to run smartd from 
ports/smartctl and replace flaky disks asap. 

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Re: FreeBSD 5.3 I/O Performance / Linux 2.6.10 | Continued Discussion

2005-01-28 Thread Robert Watson

On Thu, 27 Jan 2005, Mike Tancsa wrote:

 I/O (reads, writes at fairly large multiples of the sector size -- 512k is
 a good number) and small I/O size (512 bytes is good).  This will help
 identify the source along two dimmensions: are we looking at a basic
 storage I/O problem that's present even without the file system, or can we
 conclude that some of the additional extra cost is in the file system code
 or the hand off to it.  Also, with the large and small I/O size, we can
 perhaps draw some conclusions about to what extent the source is a
 per-transaction overhead.
 
 Apart from postmark and iozone (directly to disk and over nfs), are
 there any particular tests you would like to see done ? 

Just to get started, using dd to read and write at various block sizes is
probably a decent start.  Take a few samples, make sure there's a decent
sample size, etc, and don't count the first couple of runs.

Robert N M Watson

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Re: UT2004 on FreeBSD

2005-01-28 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:31:33 -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote
 On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:50:19PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
  I know there were some people on the list asking about running Unreal
  Tournament 2004 on FreeBSD a while back.  Mainly, the c++ libraries were
  what was missing in linux_base.  Now that linux_base-rh9 is out, all the
  required libraries are easy to install.  Also, x11/linux-XFree86-libs
  will be needed.  I have UT2004 running in freebsd, but some of the
  images and player models don't show up and, while the mouse works in the
  menus, once I get in game, I can't do anything.  Any ideas on how to fix
  this?
 
 It seems the keyboard doesn't work either once I'm in game except for
 alt-enter when windows the screen from fullscreen.  It's like it's 
 not able to access the keyboard or mouse using what ever raw access it's
 trying to do, but they both work elsewhere when it's just using the
 regular X protocol to access them.

I'm using linux_base-7.1, and I don't have linux-XFree86-libs installed either 
(Perhaps that's not required since I'm use x.org.) And UT2004 works just fine 
with me. Though the performance is somewhat worse then it was at Windows, but 
that's probably because of the Nvidia drivers. Of course, one should not 
expect too much from an GeForce 4 MX440 :)

Jorn

 
  
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Re: commercial OSS drivers

2005-01-28 Thread Jorn Argelo
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 07:18:43 +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote
 Does free bsd use this drivers http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi ?
 
 Anyway they give you surround 5.1 and spdif / AC3, they are free for
 home use but they told me they can not give me support using them.
 
 Who of you is using them and can tell me how they work ?

I just installed them yesterday. It works quite easy, though you have to make 
sure you unload your kernel module, or strip your kernel. Follow the installer 
and it works like a charm.

The unregistered version required an reinstall every 4 months, but that's not 
too bad. And you get some screen when you boot the unregistered version. It's 
rather annoying since increases boot time.

Jorn

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Re: lots of apache httpsd processes in sbwait

2005-01-28 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Jan 27, 2005, at 9:55 PM, Tom Vilot wrote:
Speaking of httpd.  don't these seem awfully large?
PID USERNAME  PRI NICE  SIZERES STATETIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
7410 www 2   0   117M 28488K sbwait  33:11  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7411 www18   0   119M 28172K lockf   33:05  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7409 www 2   0   117M 2K sbwait  33:01  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7413 www 2   0   116M 27452K select  32:46  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7408 www 2   0   117M 25940K sbwait  32:38  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7602 www18   0   118M 26972K lockf   32:12  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7407 www 2   0   117M 27160K sbwait  32:09  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7760 www 2   0   119M 30168K sbwait  32:04  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7412 www 2   0   120M 28712K sbwait  31:59  0.00%  0.00% httpd
7414 www18   0   119M 27464K lockf   31:33  0.00%  0.00% httpd

Are you running mod_perl or php or something?
But that is what mine look like too -- all sbwait with a few lockf 
thrown in

Chad
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Re: Simple questions, MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf

2005-01-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:27 pm, Nikolas Britton wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-01-27 21:36, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-01-25 21:30, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 If I do something like the following:
 
 MAKE_ARGS = {
   'www/firefox' = 'WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=yes CPUTYPE=p4',
   'multimedia/gstreamer-*' = 'CPUTYPE=p2'
 }
 
 Will portupgrade only build the port with what I put in MAKE_ARGS
  or
 
 Yes.
 
 will it just append it to the ports config?
 
 Not sure about this.  AFAIK, MAKE_ARGS are passed as command line
 options to Make when the port is built.  So, if passing them on
  the command line works until now *and* saves them in the
  persistent port options cache, it will work with portupgrade too.
 
 what is the persistent port options cache?
 
 The options that a port was built with are saved in /var/db/ports,
  in directories of the form /var/db/ports/{portname}.  This is
  what I call the persistent port options cache.  Persistent
  because it survives reboots, upgrades of the ports tree, etc. 
  Cache, because it will save you the typing and the popup dialog of
  the no-BATCH case.
 
 and I'm still confused as you said yes and no to my question.
 
 Yes, portupgrade _will_ build the port with what you put in
  MAKE_ARGS.
 
 Yes, options on the command line (i.e. those passed by portupgrade)
  will affect the way make builds the port _and_ will be saved by the
  ports infrastructure in /var/db/ports.
 
 Hopefully, this was less confusing :)

 Yes it was, my question now is whats the point of MAKE_ARGS when
 options are saved in /var/db/ports and are used when you upgrade a
 port?Arggg...

 I just looked in /var/db/ports and not all the options are there,
 i.e. I look for horde (it not even in there) and php4 and it says
 nothing about the options I built it with, WITHOUT_MYSQL=yes
 WITH_POSTGRESQL=yes, nor are apache13, postgres74, openldap22-server
 in there. What really scares me about this is if I run portupgrade it
 will fsck my production server up by not building the ports with the
 correct options, I'm starting to feel that the only way I can trust
 the ports system is if I manually upgrade all the ports by hand, I
 really need some advice and pointers to docs.
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If you put the following in /etc/make.conf:

  .if ${.CURDIR:M*/multimedia/mplayer}
  WITH_OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS=yes WITHOUT_RUNTIME_CPUDETECTION=yes \
  WITH_GTK1=yes WITH_RTC=yes WITH_LIBUNGIF=yes WITH_ARTS=yes \
  WITH_FRIBIDI=yes WITH_CDPARANOIA=yes WITH_LIBDV=yes\
  WITH_MAD=yes WITH_SVGALIB=yes WITH_AALIB=yes WITH_THEORA=yes\
  WITH_SDL=yes WITH_ESOUND=yes WITH_VORBIS=yes WITH_XANIM=yes \
  WITH_LIVEMEDIA=yes WITH_MATROSKA=yes WITH_XVID=yes WITH_LZO=yes \
  WITH_XMMS=yes WITH_LANG=en
  .endif

Then only mplayer will be built with the above options.  You can do the 
same for any other port, then wether you run portmanager, portupgrade 
or manually install mplayer it will always be built with the above 
settings.

-Mike
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 28 January 2005 12:39 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
 On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
  Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  Hi All,
 
Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
  /usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
  went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this
  is a P75, unfortunately)
 
Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
  4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
 
  If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
  cd /usr/ports
  make fetchindex
 
  The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
 
  :).
 
  Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that
  the rest of the ports directories were copied from.
 
  You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
  many months
  it has been removed from ports.
 
  Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
 
  Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
  on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
  ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
  install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
  the CDROMS in the first place.
 
  INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
  it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports
  could be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is
  static, not dynamic.
 
  Please note the following:
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html

 Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz for
 at least RELEASES.

 Michael

Won't make index work on the release CDs? Maybe they needed the space 
for something else?

-Mike
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Re: cvsup doc-all

2005-01-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-01-28 09:04, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:51:07 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Yep.  If you think a bit about it, you will see it makes more sense.
 What is it that you download with src-all?  The sources of the system.
 The doc-all collection downloads the sources of the documentation.

 aha but all docs will be updated when you do a buildworld right ?

Nope.  The build of the documentation is not, shall we say, self
contained in the base system of FreeBSD.  It requires many tools that
are not part of the base system.

This means buildworld cannot assume that you have all of them, so it
doesn't try to build the documentation too.

 Look at `/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk'.  It has a huge list of sites where
 port distfiles are downloaded from.  You can tweak this list by setting
 similar variables in your `/etc/make.conf' file, i.e.:

 MASTER_SITE_GNU?=   ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/gnu/%SUBDIR%/

 Note the conditional assignment with ?= there.  The 'make.conf' file
 should very rarely set things unconditionally, with FOO=bar.

 so basicly you dont have to worry about ports server because it will
 find the best server by it self ?

Basically, yes.  Not all the time, but that's the idea.  Everything is
customizable though, to allow local fixes that make more sense.

This is why I set MASTER_SITE_GNU as shown above in my machines -- it
makes more sense for machines installed in Greece.  The ftp.ntua.gr
mirror is usually very up to date and it's one of the fastest Greek FTP
servers around.  Putting it on the top of the MASTER_SITE_GNU list means
that whenever I try to build some GNU tool, ftp.ntua.gr is the first
server contacted.  If that fails to locate the distfile, the usual list
of servers takes over.

 why does cvsup not work the same way ?

Because it wasn't written to do so.  There is a utility in ports,
sysutils/fastest_cvsup, that may help you find the fastest CVSup server
at any given time :-)

- Giorgos

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Re: Syncing 3 Freebsd servers' accounts Question

2005-01-28 Thread Erik Norgaard
Dick Davies wrote:
O'Reilly has a really good book on LDAP LDAP System Administration - 
includes a chapter on how to migrate from NIS to LDAP.
IMO that's one of the few bad oreilly books
the orielly book is more of a cookbook, but does'nt really explain what's
going on.
You have a problem, and you want to solve it. I find the O'Reilly book a 
good guide. I didn't claim it will give you a complete understanding of 
the protocol or X.509 etc. But it will show you how to solve the problem 
at hand, and give ideas of how to exploit LDAP further.

NetBSD is almost finished integrating pluggable nsswitch modules, I doubt 
openbsd
will be far behind. No offence to the openbsd crew but if you waited for them 
to support
something before using it on freebsd you wouldn't be running much...
I think the whole idea of pam is against their fundamental philosophy, 
so I wouldn't expect to see this any time soon.

Also, LDAP requires you to obtain Object Identifiers if you defnine new 
types, I haven't heard of OID that can be used for private/experimental 
purposes only (like the private ip address spaces).
There's no need to get an OID registered (unlike IP addresses; it's not like
it's routed) but it's free and they'll happily give you one if you ask.
You will need to have your directory service available for the internet 
if you eg. want to distribute certificates - the most common use I 
think. And you will need OID if you want to add your own extensions to 
the v3 certificate.

But even if not, just to make sure that your choice of OID will not 
clash with commonly distributed entries, it would be convenient to have 
a private playground, where any interference is _your_ problem.

I know they will give you a branch for free if you ask, but I guess that 
will change if we all request such a branch.

Anyway, the predefined schemes much satturates the need of most SOHO's.
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael Johnson
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On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
On Friday 28 January 2005 12:39 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Hi All,
  Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
/usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the machine
went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX file.  (this
is a P75, unfortunately)
  Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
cd /usr/ports
make fetchindex
The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating it
:).
Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that
the rest of the ports directories were copied from.
You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
many months
it has been removed from ports.
Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a complete
install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering to release
the CDROMS in the first place.
INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense generating
it for a ports tree that's open for committing since new ports
could be added at any time.  However the ports tree on the CDROM is
static, not dynamic.
Please note the following:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz for
at least RELEASES.
Michael
Won't make index work on the release CDs? Maybe they needed the space
for something else?
yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people. Especially 
people who
are using a slower computer.


-Mike
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Re: Simple questions, MAKE_ARGS in pkgtools.conf

2005-01-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-01-28 01:27, Nikolas Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 [snip stuff about MAKE_ARGS and /var/db/ports/*/options]

 Yes, options on the command line (i.e. those passed by portupgrade) will
 affect the way make builds the port _and_ will be saved by the ports
 infrastructure in /var/db/ports.

 Yes it was, my question now is whats the point of MAKE_ARGS when
 options are saved in /var/db/ports and are used when you upgrade a
 port?Arggg...

Not all ports have OPTIONS=foo magic.  MAKE_ARGS works with *all* the
ports of the tree.  AFAIK, /var/db/ports/*/options works only with the
ports that use OPTIONS=... stuff in their Makefile.

 I just looked in /var/db/ports and not all the options are there, i.e. I
 look for horde (it not even in there) and php4 and it says nothing about
 the options I built it with, WITHOUT_MYSQL=yes WITH_POSTGRESQL=yes, nor
 are apache13, postgres74, openldap22-server in there. What really scares
 me about this is if I run portupgrade it will fsck my production server
 up by not building the ports with the correct options, I'm starting to
 feel that the only way I can trust the ports system is if I manually
 upgrade all the ports by hand, I really need some advice and pointers to
 docs.

Alternatively, you can set up MAKE_ARGS and delete
/var/db/ports/*/options every time you want a clean port upgrade ;-)


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Poor information in ports UPDATING file

2005-01-28 Thread Chris Hodgins
Hi,
Not sure which list I should email this to...so I apologise for the 
noise if this is the wrong one.

There is a recent upgrade in the ports for the excellent Xfce4 port to 
4.2.  There is also a note in the UPDATING file as how to do this.

20050126:
AFFECTS: users of x11-wm/xfce4
AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
If you use Xorg 6.8.1: Make shure there is an /tmp/.ICE-unix with 
propper rights. For further informations about that, please refer to 
20041229 Please update all your plugins as well when you update from 
4.0.6 to 4.2. They all need recompiling to link against the new xfce 
libraries

Maybe I am just too used to the excellent amount of detail in the 
UPDATING file usually but this doesn't even offer advice on how to 
update your plugins.  Every UPDATING file entry I have found useful in 
the past has always had a command you could use to carry out this update 
plus whether you should update your port first then update the dependencies.

For example:
20041231:
  AFFECTS: users of the linux compatibility environment
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  The default linux_base was changed from v7 to v8. You need to update from
  v7 to v8 and rebuild every linux port. To update run:
portupgrade -rf -o emulators/linux_base-8 emulators/linux_base
  In case you already use linux_base-8 you have to run:
portupgrade -rf emulators/linux_base-8

It would be nice if this could be ammended to show the full details of 
what is required to update.  I take it you upgrade the Xfce4 port and 
then run an upgrade on the plugins, or will just running portupgrade on 
everything do the trick?

Thanks
Chris
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Re: One-line global string replace in all files with sed (or awk?)

2005-01-28 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Giorgos Keramidas writes:

GK grep will do.  You just have to pass it the right option:
GK
GK find . -type f | xargs grep -l 'foo' | \
GK xargs sed -i '' -e 's/foo/bar/g'
GK
GK When passed the -l option (this is a lowercase 'EL'), it will not print
GK the matched lines.  Only the name of the files that *do* match. Then,
GK once you have a list of files that really do match with 'foo' as a
GK pattern, you can xargs sed on the list to substitute whatever you want :-)

It's interesting that there are multiple ways to do this in FreeBSD,
whereas I've never found a way to do it in Windows, even with the fancy
Visual InterDev I've been using for several years (it will _search_ for
strings in multiple files, but it won't do replacements, so you have to
search and then edit each file by hand--try doing this several hundred
times, several times in a row sometime!).

-- 
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Re: Backup to CD-Rs and DVDs

2005-01-28 Thread Ian Moore
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 05:49, Xian wrote:
 On Thursday 27 January 2005 12:39, Xian wrote:
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 10:37, Ian Moore wrote:
Hope that's the kind of thing you are after.
   http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sbin/dump/main.c?rev=1.59co
   nt en t-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup Cheers,
 
  That's exactly what I'm looking for thanks.
  I tried it with a CD-RW like this
   dump -0 -L -C16 -B716800 -P 'burncd -e blank data - fixate' /var
  and it works well. I'll try DVDs when I have some.
 
  THANKS :D

Glad I could help :-)

 I just found that I need to use the -b 2 switch with restore, does that
 mean I need to use it with dump as well?

I'm not sure, but if you are able to successfully retore dumps made without -b 
2, then I guess you don't need t!.

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Re: mystery /var space usage

2005-01-28 Thread Nelis Lamprecht
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:29:30 -0800, joseph kacmarcik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  /dev/amrd0s1e   9.8G   4.8G   4.2G53%/var
 
  A du -h of /var shows a total of 616M data only. First thing that came
  to mind is some process which is holding onto data so I tried
  restarting various daemons - cyrus, imapd, exim, apache and still no
  change. I've checked with fstat and lsof to see if I can see anything
  suspicious but nothing out of the ordinary shows up.
 
 sounds like the maillog. have you tried restarting syslogd or whatever process
 you have that writes to your maillog?
 

syslogd was the first process I restarted amongst all the others to
see if the problem could be solved. after doing some googling i came
across this same problem mentioned before.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-June/010764.html
and another maybe not freebsd related
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-fileutils/2002-10/msg00042.html

I have exactly the same problem which leads me to think that this may
be some sort of bug with softupdares ?

mail:/var# du -hs /var
621M/var

mail:/var# df -h /var
Filesystem  Size   Used  Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/amrd0s1e   9.8G   5.4G   3.7G59%/var

the usage for /var is growing all the time so I'm going to have to
take the machine down this weekend which I'm sure will solve the
problem for now but I'd sure like to know what causes this.

Nelis
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 28 January 2005 02:53 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
 On Jan 28, 2005, at 5:36 AM, Michael C. Shultz wrote:
  On Friday 28 January 2005 12:39 am, Michael Johnson wrote:
  On Jan 28, 2005, at 3:28 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: Kent Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:34 PM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:30 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kent
  Stewart Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 11:19 PM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
  On Thursday 27 January 2005 11:00 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
  Hi All,
 
Has anyone seen this before, I just installed 4.11 and in
  /usr/ports typed make search key=ghostscript and the
  machine went away for a couple hours to generate an INDEX
  file.  (this is a P75, unfortunately)
 
Has anyone else noticed the INDEX file is missing in the
  4.11-RELEASE ports directory?
 
  If you cvsup ports-all, INDEX[-56] is deleted. You want to
  cd /usr/ports
  make fetchindex
 
  The fetch of a compressed file is much faster than generating
  it
 
  :).
 
  Even faster would have been for it to be on the same CDROM that
  the rest of the ports directories were copied from.
 
  You would have to go to the cvsweb.cgi attic to find out how
  many months
  it has been removed from ports.
 
  Do you really think I care how long it's been removed?
 
  Your missing the point.  INDEX is supposed to be in the RELEASES
  on the CDROMs because the CD's are supposed to be self-contained,
  ie: you should not require an Internet connection to get a
  complete install.  Otherwise there's no point in even bothering
  to release the CDROMS in the first place.
 
  INDEX isn't in SNAPS and such because it makes no sense
  generating it for a ports tree that's open for committing since
  new ports could be added at any time.  However the ports tree on
  the CDROM is static, not dynamic.
 
  Please note the following:
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.11R/schedule.html
 
  Yeah, I totally agree, INDEX should be included in ports.tar.gz
  for at least RELEASES.
 
  Michael
 
  Won't make index work on the release CDs? Maybe they needed the
  space for something else?

 yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people. Especially
 people who
 are using a slower computer.

I agree make index is no fun on a slow computer, but if space is a 
problem is it really a good idea to put generated files on the CD?

-Mike
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Re: UT2004 on FreeBSD

2005-01-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 11:15:38AM +0100, Jorn Argelo wrote:
 On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:31:33 -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote
  On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:50:19PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
   I know there were some people on the list asking about running Unreal
   Tournament 2004 on FreeBSD a while back.  Mainly, the c++ libraries were
   what was missing in linux_base.  Now that linux_base-rh9 is out, all the
   required libraries are easy to install.  Also, x11/linux-XFree86-libs
   will be needed.  I have UT2004 running in freebsd, but some of the
   images and player models don't show up and, while the mouse works in the
   menus, once I get in game, I can't do anything.  Any ideas on how to fix
   this?
  
  It seems the keyboard doesn't work either once I'm in game except for
  alt-enter when windows the screen from fullscreen.  It's like it's 
  not able to access the keyboard or mouse using what ever raw access it's
  trying to do, but they both work elsewhere when it's just using the
  regular X protocol to access them.
 
 I'm using linux_base-7.1, and I don't have linux-XFree86-libs installed 
 either 
 (Perhaps that's not required since I'm use x.org.) And UT2004 works just fine 
 with me. Though the performance is somewhat worse then it was at Windows, but 
 that's probably because of the Nvidia drivers. Of course, one should not 
 expect too much from an GeForce 4 MX440 :)

When I was using linux_base-7 I had several linux programs missing
certain versions of libstdc++ libraries.  The installed version was
something like libstdc++.so.3 and the program needed something like
libstdc++.so.9.  Since I installed linux_base-rh-9, they now run, though
UT2004 has problems in-game.  Before I upgraded linux_base, it didn't
even start.  Also, linux-XFree86-libs isn't needed for linux_base-7,
there already part of it, but they seperated it out for rh-9 I guess.

And UT2004 runs just fine in Linux with my GeForce4 MX440 and since
Doom 3 runs pretty good in both linux and freebsd with my geforce 4, I'd
say the nvidia drivers are probably pretty good.

 
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RE: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports


 
  yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people. Especially
  people who
  are using a slower computer.
 
 I agree make index is no fun on a slow computer, but if space is a
 problem is it really a good idea to put generated files on the CD?


INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
have required a really severe space
crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.

Now, lets's see here:

Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 KDE is 647MB
Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 Gnome is 576MB

The INDEX file is 6MB

A cdrom holds 660-700MB of data

And I won't even go into the thousands of dollars of network costs
involved in fetching a 6Mb index file over the Internet for everyone
that could have been included on the CD.

Ted


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Re: Hard Drive Buffer tool.

2005-01-28 Thread Xian
On Friday 28 January 2005 02:00, borg wrote:
 Greetings,

 Someone gave me an IDE HD and he doesn't know how many
 MB  buffer it is. I checked the manufacturer data
 sheet. And I found that this exact model comes with
 2MB and 8MB buffer. Anyone knows if there is a tool or
 a built-in utility under FreeBSD that allows me to get
 such information, without the having me email the
 manufacturer ?

 Thank you in advance.

 =
 regards,

 UNIX, it's a way of life.

atacontrol might tell you something.

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Re: image on website

2005-01-28 Thread Ho, Jia
To whom it may concern:

I am a student studying pharmacy at Liverpool John Moores University,  
UK.

I am currently doing my final year project, which involves designing a  
computer aided learning package (on authorware), on the topic Menstrual  
cycle, Fertility and Contraception.

I saw a cartoon image on the webpage:
http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcartoon%2Bhammer%2B%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-img-t%26fl%3D0%26x%3Dwrth=710w=600imgcurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgimgurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgsize=171.1kBname=daemon_hammer.jpgrcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlp=cartoon+hammertype=jpegno=12tt=252,944
 and I wish to ask permission to use that diagram in my project for animation 
purposes.

Could you please reply me soon, because if I'm not allowed, I will need  
to find an alternative.

Thank you very much for your attention.

Yours Sincerely,

Yvonne Ho


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Re: MacPerl for Freebsd: Convert Macintosh files

2005-01-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 12:32:06PM -0700, Aaron Siegel wrote:
 Hello
 
 I need to convert the some Macintosh files to a Unix/Windows format. Has any 
 one been able to install MacPerl, Mac::Files, or Mac::MoreFiles on their 
 FreeBSD system?  Can you recommend another solutions for converting Macintosh 
 files? I have look at Macutils but it did not work.  

You might take a look at archivers/macutils in ports.  I've used that
before to decode mac files and extract the data from them.  If your just
talking about converting mac text files to unix, try mac2unix/unix2mac
or just plain old tr '\r' '\n'

 
 Thank you 
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Re: Java Runtime Environment (JRE)?

2005-01-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 07:48:38AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
  What's wrong with java/jdk14?  It doesn't sound like you have any
  requirements for Java 5.
  
 
 Does jdk14 has jvm too for firefox ?
 How do you install it in firefox ?

Yea, I'm pretty sure everything will be taken care of automatically for
mozilla and firefox to use it automatically, but in case it isn't you
need to make sure you have a soft link to the libjavaplugin_oji.so file
installed by the port in the firefox plugins directory.

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Re: mystery /var space usage

2005-01-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 11:52:23AM +0200, Nelis Lamprecht wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This is not one of those I've run out of space on /var issues but
 rather what the hell is using up the space issue.
 
 My /var file system shows:
 
 /dev/amrd0s1e   9.8G   4.8G   4.2G53%/var
 
 A du -h of /var shows a total of 616M data only. First thing that came
 to mind is some process which is holding onto data so I tried
 restarting various daemons - cyrus, imapd, exim, apache and still no
 change. I've checked with fstat and lsof to see if I can see anything
 suspicious but nothing out of the ordinary shows up.

I find lsof very helpful in this case.  It even tells you the sizes of
deleted files that are still held open by which process.

 
 Baring in mind this is a production mail server with about 60 000
 accounts, does anyone have any other suggestions which I might try ? I
 could just boot into single user mode and back out which will probably
 solve my problem now but for obvious reasons I would like to know what
 is causing the added usage of /var. I'm running 4.10 currently but
 plan to update that to 4.11 if I have to reboot.
 
 Thanks for your reply.
 
 Regards,
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Re: simple serial loopback

2005-01-28 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 10:00:40AM +0100, Florian Hengstberger wrote:
 Hi list!
 I'm currently trying to setup my box for simple data transfer
 to a microcontroller via the serial interface.
 Therefore I've wired a nullmodem cable and as a first test
 I was trying to connect from cuaa0 to cuaa1 simply by

Generally you shouldn't need a null modem for a microcontroller, just a
regular cable.  That's because it's expected to be a slave to a PC, I
think the technical term is Data Set, which is just like a regular modem
is a Data Set, where a PC is a master or Data Terminal.  So PC to PC
you need a null modem since it's Data Terminal to Data Terminal.

For monitoring my tty I find minicom or cu -l /dev/cuaa0 to work just
fine.

 
 xterm1: cat /dev/cuaa0
 
 xterm2: echo Something  /dev/cuaa1
 
 Unfortunatly cat exits with 0 after the first echo although it
 displays the message correct,
 so I have to cat /dev/cuaa0 everytime I send something.
 Why is this?
 
 Is there a better way to keep track of the ascii-chars sent
 over a serial connection?
 Kermit and minicom seem to be some sort of monster for
 real serial connection (initialisation ...) which is a bit to much
 for me.
 In the end I just wan't to see the chars sent over the cabel
 and wan't to reply to them by typing on the keyboard, that's it!
 
 Thanks in advance
 Florian
 
 PS: Maybe a simple shell/perl script can help, should I focus on that?
 
 
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MAC Address

2005-01-28 Thread Anderson Wagner
I have a firewall running on a FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE with ipfw.

My firewall is working very well, but i started to log the rules and
somethig strange appears in the log

Jan 28 10:44:15 host /kernel: ipfw: 880 Accept MAC in via fxp1
Jan 28 10:44:15 host /kernel: ipfw: 880 Accept MAC in via fxp1
Jan 28 10:44:15 host /kernel: ipfw: 880 Accept MAC in via rl1
Jan 28 10:44:15 host /kernel: ipfw: 880 Accept MAC in via rl1
Jan 28 10:44:16 host /kernel: ipfw: 880 Accept MAC in via fxp1

what is it 
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Re: Witch apache, mysql and php do i need ?

2005-01-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:09:42AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:46:09 +0100, christophe ollier
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It seems your ports index is missing. I think you can try this to make
  another one :
  
  cd /usr/ports
  make fetchindex
  portsdb -u
  
 
 woh :)
 
 7rxI# make pretty-print-run-depends-list
 This port requires package(s) apache-1.3.33_1 expat-1.95.8
 fontconfig-2.2.3,1 freetype2-2.1.7_4 jpeg-6b_3 mysql-client-4.0.23a
 openssl-0.9.7e_2 pdflib-6.0.1_1 pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 perl-5.8.5
 php4-4.3.10_2 php4-bz2-4.3.10_2 php4-gd-4.3.10_2 php4-mysql-4.3.10_2
 php4-openssl-4.3.10_2 php4-pcre-4.3.10_2 php4-zlib-4.3.10_2
 pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 png-1.2.8 t1lib-5.0.1,1 xorg-libraries-6.8.1_1 to
 run.
 7rxI#
 
 still see apache-1.3.33 doh aldo i said in make.cong to pic 2.1 ?

Ah -- yes.  That's because the INDEX-5 you download by doing 'make
fetchindex' is built using the default settings /only/.  You can build
your own index, which should reflect your local configuration changes,
but that will take some time and thrash your disk drive a bit.

For instance, on my system with a slightly different list of make.conf
settings I get:


% cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/
% make pretty-print-run-depends-list
This port requires package(s) apache-2.0.52_4 expat-1.95.8 
fontconfig-2.2.3,1 freetype2-2.1.7_4 jpeg-6b_3 libiconv-1.9.2_1 libxml2-2.6.17 
mysql-client-4.1.9 pdflib-6.0.1_1 pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 perl-5.8.5 php5-5.0.3_2 
php5-bz2-5.0.3_2 php5-gd-5.0.3_2 php5-mysql-5.0.3_2 php5-openssl-5.0.3_2 
php5-pcre-5.0.3_2 php5-zlib-5.0.3_2 pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 png-1.2.8 t1lib-5.0.1,1 
xorg-libraries-6.8.1_1 to run.

Building your own index can be done via several means: 'make index' is
the standard, but it takes a bit of time.  Not to blow my own trumpet
too much, but see also the sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex port.

However, worrying about what the index contains is really a bit of a
diversion.  The true test is just to try some actual software
downloading and building.  Try:

# make fetch-recursive

which will attempt to download all of the various bits of source code
needed to build the port and anything else not yet installed on your
machine that it depends on.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: READ_DMA timed out on Promise FastTrak100

2005-01-28 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
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 However, when I boot FreeBSD, the system reports READ_DMA errors on the
 second drive, and the array reports a degraded state. I can still mount
 it, and both drive lights flash when accessing the volume.

I had similar problems with my SATA RAID controller, lots of DMA errors. 
Looks like a bug in 5.3 -- or is it fixed now?

I solved this issue in disabling DMA via sysctl...
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OpenLDAP doesn't start

2005-01-28 Thread Kvesdn Gbor
Hello,

when I try to start the slapd daemon, it fails with this error message:

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/libexec/slapd: Undefined symbol
ldap_pvt_sasl_mutex_new

I installed it from FreeBSD ports collection, and I rebuilt my library cache
with ldconfig, but this error is still exist. What can I do now?

Cheers,

Gbor Kvesdn

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Re: removing phpMyAdmin

2005-01-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 01:17:38PM -0800, Curtis Vaughan wrote:
 Well, I wanted to remove phpMyAdmin from my 5.3 server. Usually I would 
 just go to the port location under /usr/ports/ and type make deinstall. 
 However, phpMyAdmin apparently isn't here anymore. I don't even know 
 exactly where it should be be but judging by freebsd's website, it 
 should be under /usr/ports/www/ but it's not. In fact a locate and find 
 for phpMyAdmin turns up nothing in the /usr/ports/ directory, except 
 under /usr/ports/distfiles which is, of course, not what I need.

/usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin
 
 Has phpMyAdmin been removed or has an update of ports gone astray?

Not to my knowledge, and I should know 'cos I'm the maintainer.

It's possible you've fubared a ports cvsup -- using one of the system
CVS tags is a common error --  but you'ld tend to notice that because
the effect would be to delete virtually all of the files from under
/usr/ports.

Hold on a minute -- didn't I already answer this e-mail a few days
ago? Deja-vu all over again...

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Re: OpenLDAP doesn't start

2005-01-28 Thread simon butsana
Hi, 
 
Try install from source tar.gz ball.
 
Simon

Kövesdán Gábor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,

when I try to start the slapd daemon, it fails with this error message:

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/local/libexec/slapd: Undefined symbol
ldap_pvt_sasl_mutex_new

I installed it from FreeBSD ports collection, and I rebuilt my library cache
with ldconfig, but this error is still exist. What can I do now?

Cheers,

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Re: Keep compile options through upgrade

2005-01-28 Thread Glenn Sieb
Olivier Certner said the following on 1/28/2005 4:00 AM:
Thanks for these 2 answers. I didn't have seen this file mentioned in the 
portupgrade manpage, so I could have been searching for a while before 
finding...
 

Quite welcome..hope it helped! :)
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enable linux compatibility

2005-01-28 Thread saravanan ganapathy
Hai 

I tried to enable linux compatibility on my freebsd
(5.3 Release)kernel by adding 'options COMPAT_LINUX'
in my kernel config file and recompiled the kernel
using this file.But even after, this is not enabled.

kldstat o/p shows as 

# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
 13 0xc040 5ef620   kernel
 2   14 0xc09f 537f0acpi.ko

The 'linux' command also not found. 

What may be the problem?

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RE: OpenLDAP doesn't start

2005-01-28 Thread Kvesdn Gbor

Hi,

I've tried since the previous post, but it fails due to the bdb.
Some ports have installed different bdb versions as a dependency, but now
there's only one bdb installed, I've removed the older versions. The
configure script wrote this:

configure: error: BDB/HDB: BerkeleyDB version incompatible

Anyway, I don't know, what hdb is.

Cheers,

Gbor Kvesdn


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Hi, 

Try install from source tar.gz ball.

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Re: 5.3 interrupt storm (atapicam) and I/O error

2005-01-28 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
I don't know whether this is related to your issue,
but on one of my boxes I am also getting an interrupt
storm with atapicam enabled.
On FreeBSD 5.2.1 I did not experience any interrupt
storm issues, even if using the same hardware configuration.
Have a look at the attached text file for a detailed
description ...
Olivier Certner schrieb:
 Hi,
 Could you give a look at my post dated 04/01/2005 entitled Freeze with CAM 
(using KsCD)? Maybe we have fallen on the same kind of bug concerning 
atapicam.

 If you have KDE, maybe you should try to reproduce the problem I had. I've no 
time to test your scenario (the one with the EIDE drive, I don't have SCSI) 
now, but I'll try to reproduce it at the beginning of next week, in order to 
see if the freeze happens also on my computer.

 Hope this will help us to progress on our issues.
 Regards,
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Re: 5.3 interrupt storm (atapicam) and I/O error

2005-01-28 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
oops, did forget the tixt file ...
Daniel S. Haischt schrieb:
I don't know whether this is related to your issue,
but on one of my boxes I am also getting an interrupt
storm with atapicam enabled.
On FreeBSD 5.2.1 I did not experience any interrupt
storm issues, even if using the same hardware configuration.
Have a look at the attached text file for a detailed
description ...
Olivier Certner schrieb:
 Hi,
 Could you give a look at my post dated 04/01/2005 entitled Freeze 
with CAM (using KsCD)? Maybe we have fallen on the same kind of bug 
concerning atapicam.

 If you have KDE, maybe you should try to reproduce the problem I had. 
I've no time to test your scenario (the one with the EIDE drive, I 
don't have SCSI) now, but I'll try to reproduce it at the beginning of 
next week, in order to see if the freeze happens also on my computer.

 Hope this will help us to progress on our issues.
 Regards,
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Hello,

recently I updated one of my FreeBSD boxes to
v 5.3. This box got a builtin Promise PDC20269
UDMA133 controller. Actually it's a controller
with two IDE channels.

So far if using the GENERIC kernel that comes
with FreeBSD, I do not experience any problems.

If using my own customized kernel I am getting
the following error message while booting the
system:

888---8-8-
Interrupt storm detected on irq10: atapci1;
throtteling interrupt source:
888---8-8-

After some trail-and-error based investigations,
I did figure out that if I don't plugin any device
into IDE channel two, the just described error
does not occur.

So it has something to do with IDE channel two.

As an additional note - The controller works
under Linux, FreeBSD 5.3 (GENERIC) and FreeBSD
5.2.1 (custom kernel).

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Re: image on website

2005-01-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:08:37PM -, Ho, Jia wrote:
 To whom it may concern:
 
 I am a student studying pharmacy at Liverpool John Moores University,  
 UK.
 
 I am currently doing my final year project, which involves designing a  
 computer aided learning package (on authorware), on the topic Menstrual  
 cycle, Fertility and Contraception.
 
 I saw a cartoon image on the webpage:
 http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcartoon%2Bhammer%2B%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-img-t%26fl%3D0%26x%3Dwrth=710w=600imgcurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgimgurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgsize=171.1kBname=daemon_hammer.jpgrcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlp=cartoon+hammertype=jpegno=12tt=252,944
  and I wish to ask permission to use that diagram in my project for animation 
 purposes.

Err -- perhaps you might prefer the (slightly) shorter URL:

http://www.freebsd.org/gifs/daemon_hammer.jpg


 Could you please reply me soon, because if I'm not allowed, I will need  
 to find an alternative.

Copyright for the Daemon image belongs to Marshall Kirk Mckusick, and
you will need his permission in order to reproduce that image.  See:

http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html

Cheers,

Matthew

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pci enumeration order

2005-01-28 Thread Petri Helenius
Is there a way (loader variable, hints, etc.?) to change the order which 
different PCI card ports are enumerated on kernel start?

Pete
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Re: enable linux compatibility

2005-01-28 Thread Xian
On Friday 28 January 2005 13:39, saravanan ganapathy wrote:
 Hai

 I tried to enable linux compatibility on my freebsd
 (5.3 Release)kernel by adding 'options COMPAT_LINUX'
 in my kernel config file and recompiled the kernel
 using this file.But even after, this is not enabled.

 kldstat o/p shows as

 # kldstat
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
  13 0xc040 5ef620   kernel
  2   14 0xc09f 537f0acpi.ko

 The 'linux' command also not found.

 What may be the problem?

 Sarav

You need linux_enable=YES in rc.conf at least. I can't remember if there is 
more to do. I'm sure someone else can help.

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RE: READ_DMA timed out on Promise FastTrak100

2005-01-28 Thread Norbert Koch


 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag von Matthias F.
 Brandstetter
 Gesendet am: Freitag, 28. Januar 2005 13:58
 An: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Betreff: Re: READ_DMA timed out on Promise FastTrak100

 -- quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
  However, when I boot FreeBSD, the system reports READ_DMA errors on the
  second drive, and the array reports a degraded state. I can still mount
  it, and both drive lights flash when accessing the volume.

 I had similar problems with my SATA RAID controller, lots of DMA errors.
 Looks like a bug in 5.3 -- or is it fixed now?

 I solved this issue in disabling DMA via sysctl...

I am using a Promise FastTrak100
and I have no problems at all.
I tried FreeBSD5.3 Release and the
most current RELENG_5.
So, no kernel bug, as far as I can tell.

Norbert Koch

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RE: OpenLDAP doesn't start

2005-01-28 Thread simon butsana
Hi,
 
Please check the link 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=OpenLDAPstype=all
 
Locate all required dependant packages and install them all from source .tar.gz
 
Simon

Kövesdán Gábor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I've tried since the previous post, but it fails due to the bdb.
Some ports have installed different bdb versions as a dependency, but now
there's only one bdb installed, I've removed the older versions. The
configure script wrote this:

configure: error: BDB/HDB: BerkeleyDB version incompatible

Anyway, I don't know, what hdb is.

Cheers,

Gábor Kövesdán


From: simon butsana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 2:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: OpenLDAP doesn't start

Hi, 
 
Try install from source tar.gz ball.
 
Simon

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Re: image on website

2005-01-28 Thread simon butsana
Unless I have misunderstood something and although I have no authority to 
answering yes or no to your request, why on earth do you need this image?
 
Simon

Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 12:08:37PM -, Ho, Jia wrote:
 To whom it may concern:
 
 I am a student studying pharmacy at Liverpool John Moores University, 
 UK.
 
 I am currently doing my final year project, which involves designing a 
 computer aided learning package (on authorware), on the topic Menstrual 
 cycle, Fertility and Contraception.
 
 I saw a cartoon image on the webpage:
 http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcartoon%2Bhammer%2B%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-img-t%26fl%3D0%26x%3Dwrth=710w=600imgcurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgimgurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgsize=171.1kBname=daemon_hammer.jpgrcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlp=cartoon+hammertype=jpegno=12tt=252,944
  and I wish to ask permission to use that diagram in my project for animation 
 purposes.

Err -- perhaps you might prefer the (slightly) shorter URL:

http://www.freebsd.org/gifs/daemon_hammer.jpg


 Could you please reply me soon, because if I'm not allowed, I will need 
 to find an alternative.

Copyright for the Daemon image belongs to Marshall Kirk Mckusick, and
you will need his permission in order to reproduce that image. See:

http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: enable linux compatibility

2005-01-28 Thread saravanan ganapathy

--- Xian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Friday 28 January 2005 13:39, saravanan ganapathy
 wrote:
  Hai
 
  I tried to enable linux compatibility on my
 freebsd
  (5.3 Release)kernel by adding 'options
 COMPAT_LINUX'
  in my kernel config file and recompiled the kernel
  using this file.But even after, this is not
 enabled.
 
  kldstat o/p shows as
 
  # kldstat
  Id Refs AddressSize Name
   13 0xc040 5ef620   kernel
   2   14 0xc09f 537f0acpi.ko
 
  The 'linux' command also not found.
 
  What may be the problem?
 
  Saravname of
 
 You need linux_enable=YES in rc.conf at least. I
 can't remember if there is 
 more to do. I'm sure someone else can help.
 

I already added linux_enable=YES in rc.conf.

Sarav



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hardware testing / burn in software

2005-01-28 Thread Dave Carrera
Hi List,
Is there any freebsd based p.c hardware / burn in testing software 
available ?

I ask as i am building 3 new servers and want to check all parts ie, 
mem, hdd, cpu etc before loading on my freebsd.

What would be ideal is a micro kernal on a floppy disk or self booting 
cd with the testing software on the disk, i can only hope :-)

Any help or advice is appreciated
Thank you in advance
Dave C
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Re: ISDN connection problems

2005-01-28 Thread Stefan Pietsch
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 
 The problem may very well not be the 3com card.  But unless you try
 swapping with a different ethernet card, you aren't going to have proof
 that it isn't - unless you stumble across the solution before you get
 desperate enough to actually try swapping the card.  But, since you want
 to gamble on doing that, good luck to you.


I replaced the 3com card with an Intel 82559 Pro/100, but it made no change.
So I think I will step back to 4.11R, maybe it solves the problem ...
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Re: enable linux compatibility

2005-01-28 Thread O. Hartmann
saravanan ganapathy schrieb:
--- Xian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

On Friday 28 January 2005 13:39, saravanan ganapathy
wrote:
   

Hai
I tried to enable linux compatibility on my
 

freebsd
   

(5.3 Release)kernel by adding 'options
 

COMPAT_LINUX'
   

in my kernel config file and recompiled the kernel
using this file.But even after, this is not
 

enabled.
   

kldstat o/p shows as
# kldstat
Id Refs AddressSize Name
13 0xc040 5ef620   kernel
2   14 0xc09f 537f0acpi.ko
The 'linux' command also not found.
What may be the problem?
Saravname of
 

You need linux_enable=YES in rc.conf at least. I
can't remember if there is 
more to do. I'm sure someone else can help.

   

I already added linux_enable=YES in rc.conf.
Sarav
		
 

If you put
options COMPAT_LINUX
in your kernel config file, Linux compatibility is already enabled and not
shown in the list of loaded kernel modules! kldstat only reports thos 
modules
are enabled as loadable module.
With options COMPAT_LINUX' Linuxulator is enabled forever as long as 
the kernel runs.
A more sphisticated way is to run Linuxulator as a kernel loadable 
module. You should disable
options COMAPT_LINUX in your configuration file and change the 
appropriate tag in /etc/rc.conf.local

linux_enable=NO - linux_enable=YES.

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Re: ISDN connection problems

2005-01-28 Thread Stefan Pietsch
Norbert Koch wrote:
 
 Ok,
 here are the differences to my configration:

[snip...]


I tried your kernel configuration, replaced the ethernet card, removed the
set filter statements from the ppp config, but still:
No buffer space available

Hopefully 4.11 can solve the problem with my isdn ...
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Re: hardware testing / burn in software

2005-01-28 Thread cali
Hi List,
Is there any freebsd based p.c hardware / burn in testing software 
available ?

Someone suggested this to me when I had a suspected hardware problem earlier 
this month:

http://www.memtest86.com/
cali 

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AW: enable linux compatibility

2005-01-28 Thread Norbert Koch

  I tried to enable linux compatibility on my freebsd
  (5.3 Release)kernel by adding 'options COMPAT_LINUX'
  in my kernel config file and recompiled the kernel
  using this file.But even after, this is not enabled.
 
  kldstat o/p shows as
 
  # kldstat
  Id Refs AddressSize Name
   13 0xc040 5ef620   kernel
   2   14 0xc09f 537f0acpi.ko


If you compile linux emulation into the kernel
you don't see a linux.ko.


 
  The 'linux' command also not found.
 


What linux command?

See linux(4). You should also install the
linux process file system linprocfs(5).
And you need to install the linux_base port.


  What may be the problem?
 
  Sarav
 
 You need linux_enable=YES in rc.conf at least. I can't remember 
 if there is 
 more to do. I'm sure someone else can help.
 
 -- 
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Re: hardware testing / burn in software

2005-01-28 Thread O. Hartmann
Dave Carrera schrieb:
Hi List,
Is there any freebsd based p.c hardware / burn in testing software 
available ?

I ask as i am building 3 new servers and want to check all parts ie, 
mem, hdd, cpu etc before loading on my freebsd.

What would be ideal is a micro kernal on a floppy disk or self booting 
cd with the testing software on the disk, i can only hope :-)

Any help or advice is appreciated
Thank you in advance
Dave C
For testing and stressing CPU/Cahce/memory interface look at
/usr/ports/sysutils/cpuburn.
For memory testing purposes
/usr/ports/sysutils/memtest
and
/usr/ports/sysuitls/memtest86
is very useful, I would prefer latter due to an ISO image for autostart.
For other purposes and device's testing I do not know any tool (under 
UNIX like FreeBSD),
maybe bonny for harddrives?
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Adding a partition

2005-01-28 Thread David J. Weller-Fahy
I left about 26GB free on my 80GB hard drive.  Having found a use for
that space, I now want to add a partition.  I've not added one by hand,
and /stand/sysinstall gives me a 'cannot write to ...' message, so I
want confirmation that what I'm about to do won't crump on me. ;]

System is two 80GB ATA hard drives on a 'Promise PDC20269 UDMA133
controller' (according to dmesg), with one on each channel (both
master).  I'm running software raid using atacontrol.

My current partition table follows:

#v+
dave[tigger]~ sudo bsdlabel ar0s1
# /dev/ar0s1:
8 partitions:
#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a:  104857604.2BSD 2048 16384 8
  b:  2097152  1048576  swap
  c: 1562963220unused0 0 # raw part, don't 
edit
  d: 73400320 304087044.2BSD 2048 16384 28544
  e:  2097152  31457284.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
  f: 12582912  52428804.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
  g: 12582912 178257924.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
#v-

To use up the unused space, I believe I need to add the following line:

#v+
  h: 52487298 1038090244.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
#v-

Could someone who's done that before confirm whether that looks right?

Regards,
-- 
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Re: lots of apache httpsd processes in sbwait

2005-01-28 Thread Tom Vilot


Are you running mod_perl or php or something? 

Yep! mod_perl and php ...
I'm thinking of breaking all that out: one main httpd config which runs 
all static sites, and uses mod_rewrite to forward to other httpd servers 
on different ports for the mod_perl and php sites...

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In-Reply-To=200501071230.59428.personrp@hotpop.comSubject=GTK%20error%20with%20SciTE.

2005-01-28 Thread Michael Hellmund
High,
I had the same problem, then made a complete new-install without GTK 2! 
option  and this works.
Michael
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Re: enable linux compatibility

2005-01-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
saravanan ganapathy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hai 
 
 I tried to enable linux compatibility on my freebsd
 (5.3 Release)kernel by adding 'options COMPAT_LINUX'
 in my kernel config file and recompiled the kernel
 using this file.But even after, this is not enabled.
 
 kldstat o/p shows as 
 
 # kldstat
 Id Refs AddressSize Name
  13 0xc040 5ef620   kernel
  2   14 0xc09f 537f0acpi.ko

Right.  You installed it directly into your kernel, instead of as a
kernel module.  Therefore, it does not show up in a list of kernel
modules.  

 The 'linux' command also not found. 

Not needed.

 What may be the problem?

You haven't tried anything that *uses* the linux compatibility.
What do you want it for?
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Re: 5.3 interrupt storm (atapicam) and I/O error

2005-01-28 Thread ad5gb

Greetings,

My problem might be slightly different than yours.  My system hangs during the
boot process whenever I boot a kernel with atapicam enabled.  A can't do 
anything but reboot the box at that point.  

Maybe this is a good time to learn to use the kernel debugger.  When I get home
this evening I'll try a few more things.  This problem didn't happen in 5.2.1.

Thanks!


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To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:05:30 +0100
Subject: Re: 5.3 interrupt storm (atapicam) and I/O error

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with CAM br(using KsCD)? Maybe we have fallen on the same kind of bug 
concerning bratapicam.brbr If you have KDE, maybe you should try to 
reproduce the problem I had. I've no brtime to test your scenario (the one 
with the EIDE drive, I don't have SCSI) brnow, but I'll try to reproduce it 
at the beginning of next week, in order to brsee if the freeze happens also 
on my computer.brbr Hope this will help us to progress on our 
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disklabel missing on a raid-5

2005-01-28 Thread Peter Wong
Hi,
I'm having a serious problem with one of my freebsd 4.6-R box. I have always 
used Freebsd to run my database servers and I've never had such a problem. 
If anyone knows the solution to my problem below, please let me know because 
I have some really important data that I badly need.

Short story: Someone booted a database server by accident, it won't boot up 
and got hang up right after post (where the /|\ spinning supposedly begins) 
so that person booted it again, and again. (three times in total I think).

Anyway, since it won't boot up at all, I've decided to install a IDE HD with 
Freebsd 4.6 on it, boot up the server and attempt to retrieve the database 
backups from the messed-up raid-5 HDDS that I stored in a /usr/home/backup 
folder.

dmesg says:
da0 at asr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: ADAPTEC RAID-5 380E Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device
da0: Tagged Queueing Enabled
da0: 70006MB (143372288 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 8924C)
Looks good. So I go
#mount /dev/da0s1 /mnt
It returns:
Jan 28 23:22:31 /kernel: da0: cannot find label (no disk label)
Jan 28 23:22:31 /kernel: da0s1: cannot find label (no disk label)
And I am able to cd to mnt and read everything, but /usr and /var (that's 
where the data reside) are empty.

Then I tried:
#fdisk da0
and it returns
*** Working on device /dev/da0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=8924 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)
Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=8924 heads=255 sectors/track=63 (16065 blks/cyl)
Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
   start 63, size 143363997 (70001 Meg), flag 80 (active)
   beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
   end: cyl 1023/ head 254/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 3 is:
UNUSED
The data for partition 4 is:
UNUSED
So I tried:
# disklabel da0s1
disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument
# disklabel da0
disklabel: ioctl DIOCGDINFO: Invalid argument
Is my disklabel missing, and that's why the raid-5 HDDs won't boot up and 
won't let me mount '/usr' and '/var'? Since the etc directory is accessible 
I can even access the old '/etc/fstab' and '/etc/disktab', would that help? 
All I need is to be able to mount /usr and /var and copy the data out to my 
IDE HD, whether the Raid-5 sys can ever boot up again is secondary.

Here's '/etc/fstab' (well '/mnt/etc/fstab'):
/dev/da0s1b noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/da0s1a /   ufs rw  1   1
/dev/da0s1f /usrufs rw  2   2
/dev/da0s1e /varufs rw  2   2
/dev/da0s1g /wwwufs rw  2   2
/dev/acd0c  /cdrom  cd9660  ro,noauto   0   0
proc/proc   procfs  rw  0   0
Also, as a freaked out person desperatly trying to restore the data I tried 
to mount the slices. I tried:

#mount /dev/da0s1f /mnt
and it returns
mount: /dev/da0s1f on /mnt: incorrect super block
If anybody has any idea on how that can be done, please let me know; If any 
extra info is needed, please let me know and I'll provide them as much as 
possible.

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Re: Adding a partition

2005-01-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I left about 26GB free on my 80GB hard drive.  Having found a use for
 that space, I now want to add a partition.  I've not added one by hand,
 and /stand/sysinstall gives me a 'cannot write to ...' message, so I
 want confirmation that what I'm about to do won't crump on me. ;]
 
 System is two 80GB ATA hard drives on a 'Promise PDC20269 UDMA133
 controller' (according to dmesg), with one on each channel (both
 master).  I'm running software raid using atacontrol.
 
 My current partition table follows:
 
 #v+
 dave[tigger]~ sudo bsdlabel ar0s1
 # /dev/ar0s1:
 8 partitions:
 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a:  104857604.2BSD 2048 16384 8
   b:  2097152  1048576  swap
   c: 156296322   0unused0 0 # raw part, don't edit
   d: 73400320 304087044.2BSD 2048 16384 28544
   e:  2097152  31457284.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
   f: 12582912  52428804.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
   g: 12582912 178257924.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
 #v-
 
 To use up the unused space, I believe I need to add the following line:
 
 #v+
   h: 52487298 1038090244.2BSD 2048 16384 28552
 #v-
 
 Could someone who's done that before confirm whether that looks right?

That looks correct to me, though I wonder why you made a d: partition
out of order in there.  

In FreeBSD 4.xx disklabel, you can just put a '*' in for the size and
it will make a partition of all remaining unpartitioned space.  I don't
have a 5.xx bsdlabel handy, but would be surprised if it didn't offer
that feature.

You will need to be booted in such a way as nothing on that slice
is mounted to be able to write the new label, I believe.

jerry

 
 Regards,
 -- 
 dave [ please don't CC me ]
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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Michael C. Shultz
On Friday 28 January 2005 03:34 am, you wrote:
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Michael C.
  Shultz
  Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 3:16 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports
 
   yeah, but including it would be easier for alot of people.
   Especially people who
   are using a slower computer.
 
  I agree make index is no fun on a slow computer, but if space is
  a problem is it really a good idea to put generated files on the
  CD?

 INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
 previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
 have required a really severe space
 crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.

 Now, lets's see here:

 Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 KDE is 647MB
 Disc 1 of FreeBSD 4.11 Gnome is 576MB

 The INDEX file is 6MB

 A cdrom holds 660-700MB of data

 And I won't even go into the thousands of dollars of network costs
 involved in fetching a 6Mb index file over the Internet for everyone
 that could have been included on the CD.

 Ted

I'm out of excuses after seeing the numbers you posted. 

-Mike
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Re: One-line global string replace in all files with sed (or awk?)

2005-01-28 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-01-28 12:04, Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Giorgos Keramidas writes:
 grep will do.  You just have to pass it the right option:

 find . -type f | xargs grep -l 'foo' | \
 xargs sed -i '' -e 's/foo/bar/g'

 When passed the -l option (this is a lowercase 'EL'), it will not print
 the matched lines.  Only the name of the files that *do* match. Then,
 once you have a list of files that really do match with 'foo' as a
 pattern, you can xargs sed on the list to substitute whatever you want :-)

 It's interesting that there are multiple ways to do this in FreeBSD,
 whereas I've never found a way to do it in Windows, even with the fancy
 Visual InterDev I've been using for several years (it will _search_ for
 strings in multiple files, but it won't do replacements, so you have to
 search and then edit each file by hand--try doing this several hundred
 times, several times in a row sometime!).

I honestly feel pity for the Windows using friends I have in cases like
this.

A typical example is when they start writing File Renamers, to mass
rename collections of files (i.e. mp3 audio) and start being bitten by
bugs in the renamer itself.

Another typical example is what I call the robo-user.  A person who
starts training his fingers and/or brain to repeatedly hit the same
sequence of keys in the keyboard, in an effort to rename dozens of files
within Explorer.

Writing shell scripts to do the job is not necessarily easier, since you
have to learn the tools that are available and learn all about the ways
they can be glued together, before becoming *really* productive.  It
pays a thousand times back though, when you start doing in a couple of
lines what would take hours of error-prone, manual labor.

This is why I have been heard saying:

Unix is for lazy people.  So lazy, in fact, that they start learning
languages and tricks to avoid as much work as possible, by making their
computers do it.
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Re: image on website

2005-01-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 To whom it may concern:
 
 I am a student studying pharmacy at Liverpool John Moores University,  
 UK.
 
 I am currently doing my final year project, which involves designing a  
 computer aided learning package (on authorware), on the topic Menstrual  
 cycle, Fertility and Contraception.
 
 I saw a cartoon image on the webpage:
 http://images.search.yahoo.com/search/images/view?back=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.search.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fimages%3Fp%3Dcartoon%2Bhammer%2B%26ei%3DUTF-8%26fr%3DFP-tab-img-t%26fl%3D0%26x%3Dwrth=710w=600imgcurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgimgurl=www.freebsd.org%2Fgifs%2Fdaemon_hammer.jpgsize=171.1kBname=daemon_hammer.jpgrcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlrurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freebsd.org%2Fde%2Fplatforms%2Famd64.htmlp=cartoon+hammertype=jpegno=12tt=252,944
  and I wish to ask permission to use that diagram in my project for animation 
 purposes.
 
 Could you please reply me soon, because if I'm not allowed, I will need  
 to find an alternative.

Someone else has answered your specific question, but I can't help
but wondering how an image of Beastie (BSD) swinging a large rubber
mallet fits in your project on menstrual cycles, fertility and
contraception.   My guesses might be a bit far afield.

jerry

 
 Thank you very much for your attention.
 
 Yours Sincerely,
 
 Yvonne Ho
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Re: UT2004 on FreeBSD

2005-01-28 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Friday 28 January 2005 05:25, Loren M. Lang wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 11:15:38AM +0100, Jorn Argelo wrote:
  On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 22:31:33 -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote
 
   On Thu, Jan 27, 2005 at 08:50:19PM -0800, Loren M. Lang wrote:
I know there were some people on the list asking about
running Unreal Tournament 2004 on FreeBSD a while back. 
Mainly, the c++ libraries were what was missing in
linux_base.  Now that linux_base-rh9 is out, all the required
libraries are easy to install.  Also, x11/linux-XFree86-libs
will be needed.  I have UT2004 running in freebsd, but some
of the images and player models don't show up and, while the
mouse works in the menus, once I get in game, I can't do
anything.  Any ideas on how to fix this?
  
   It seems the keyboard doesn't work either once I'm in game
   except for alt-enter when windows the screen from fullscreen. 
   It's like it's not able to access the keyboard or mouse using
   what ever raw access it's trying to do, but they both work
   elsewhere when it's just using the regular X protocol to access
   them.
 
  I'm using linux_base-7.1, and I don't have linux-XFree86-libs
  installed either (Perhaps that's not required since I'm use
  x.org.) And UT2004 works just fine with me. Though the
  performance is somewhat worse then it was at Windows, but that's
  probably because of the Nvidia drivers. Of course, one should not
  expect too much from an GeForce 4 MX440 :)

 When I was using linux_base-7 I had several linux programs missing
 certain versions of libstdc++ libraries.  The installed version was
 something like libstdc++.so.3 and the program needed something like
 libstdc++.so.9.  Since I installed linux_base-rh-9, they now run,
 though UT2004 has problems in-game.  Before I upgraded linux_base,
 it didn't even start.  Also, linux-XFree86-libs isn't needed for
 linux_base-7, there already part of it, but they seperated it out
 for rh-9 I guess.

 And UT2004 runs just fine in Linux with my GeForce4 MX440 and since
 Doom 3 runs pretty good in both linux and freebsd with my geforce
 4, I'd say the nvidia drivers are probably pretty good.

  Jorn

Where can I get the installer?  

-- 
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel
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Re: modify existing partitions - newbie

2005-01-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 # raw part, don't edit
 d: 41943040 419430404.2BSD 2048 16384
  28552
   
   Is it the correct way to delete the partitions?
  
  First guess is not having permission.   
  It should be done in single user mode.
  
  Second guess is the partition you want to delete is
  mounted.
  
  I have never tried to modify partitions on the disk
  with root on it, 
  so maybe that presents special problems.   You may
  need to boot
  from something else - live CD for example.
  
 
 Now I tried to create new partitions on the free space
 of the existing slice in single mode, but I am getting
 the same error as 'unable to write data on ad0' . I am
 doing this in root user only. What are all the
 permissions should I have for this? 
 
 Or please suggest me to create a partition in another
 way?

As I say, I have never tried to modify partitions on the root/boot
disk currently being used.  I suspect that, since the root partition
of that disk is mounted, you will not be able to write in the label
even for other not-currently mounted partitions on that disk.

You may have to boot from some other device, either another disk
or a live CD or fixit floppy in order to work on that particular 
disk label. 

Maybe someone else on the list knows for sure.j

jerry

 
 Sarav
 
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Re: How does FreeBSD access NetBSD, OpenBSD?

2005-01-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I have FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD on the same hard drive of my system.
 How can I mount the NetBSD or OpenBSD partitions from FreeBSD?
 
 Slice 1 - Ext3fs for data between linux/bsd
 Slice 2 - OpenBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
 Slice 3 - FreeBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,d,e,f)
 Slice 4 - Extended slice composed of:
Slice 5 - NetBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
Slice 6 - Unformatted as of yet.

Hmmm,  First thing I see is that only 4 slices are allowed on a drive.

 FreeBSD is, of course running fine, but I can't see any of the other
 slices/partitions on the drive including the ext3fs partition.
 $ ls /dev/ad1*
 /dev/ad1/dev/ad1s3  /dev/ad1s3c /dev/ad1s3f
 /dev/ad1s6
 /dev/ad1s1  /dev/ad1s3a /dev/ad1s3d /dev/ad1s4
 /dev/ad1s2  /dev/ad1s3b /dev/ad1s3e /dev/ad1s5
 
 I can seem to access all the linux partitions on my first drive ad0,
 but that drive is only linux so there are no complex partitions in
 slices like on ad1.  I would expect that the nature of geom, I should
 be able to access all the partitions fine, but I might be missing
 something.

Next question may be too obvious, but did you mount the other
slices or put them in /etc/fstab?

But, I bet it is the 4 slice limit per device that is the issue.

jerry

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Sound issues

2005-01-28 Thread lordbad
Hello!

I'm have been using FreeBSD 5.3 since the day it was officially released, 
altough I had little experience with Unix-based OS before it. I have found that 
the enviroment provided by FreeBSD is perfect for my work, but I'm trying to 
get decent multimedia experience either. So to the point - I have the Epox 
8RDA+ Pro mainboard with the following onboard audio : 6-CH audio from onboard 
RealTek ALC65x AC'97 v2.3 compliant CODEC. I'm currently using the ich_snd 
driver. I get sound via it, but it is far from being good, not to mention 
perfect... With the stereo output I'm fine, I can live without the surround 
capabilities of the card. But only if the quality of the stereo playback was 
good - and belive me - it isn't. The basses are awful and it is not caused by 
some mixer settings, of that I'm certain. If fact the basses are almost missing 
and the high frequences heavily distorted. I heard that the opensound driver 
can help but it does not recognize my audio... So I'm asking is there someone 
using sound device same as mine while getting decent output or should I buy 
some high quality sound card such as Audigy 2 for which I know there are some 
nice drivers. And one more question regarding the sound - if I get an Audigy 2 
sound card will I get the 6.1 surround or I will still be stuck with stereo.

I thank you in advance for your responses.

Best Regards,

Bozhidar Batsov, a devoted open-source enforcer and FreeBSD lover :)
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magneto-optical drives

2005-01-28 Thread Sherman, Michael (GE Energy)
Hi all.

I am not sure whether it is the right thread for my kind of question. If it
isn't please let me know where to post it.
I was wondering if any of the people on this list were able to mount and
read (don't need writing) successfully Maxtor magneto-optical drives, or any
magneto-optical drive for that matter. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.

Michael

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Re: hardware testing / burn in software

2005-01-28 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 03:37:32PM +0100, O. Hartmann wrote:
 Dave Carrera schrieb:
 
 Hi List,
 
 Is there any freebsd based p.c hardware / burn in testing software 
 available ?
 
 I ask as i am building 3 new servers and want to check all parts ie, 
 mem, hdd, cpu etc before loading on my freebsd.
 
 What would be ideal is a micro kernal on a floppy disk or self booting 
 cd with the testing software on the disk, i can only hope :-)
 
 Any help or advice is appreciated
 
 Thank you in advance
 
 Dave C
 
 For testing and stressing CPU/Cahce/memory interface look at
 /usr/ports/sysutils/cpuburn.
 
 For memory testing purposes
 /usr/ports/sysutils/memtest
 and
 /usr/ports/sysuitls/memtest86
 is very useful, I would prefer latter due to an ISO image for autostart.
 
 For other purposes and device's testing I do not know any tool (under 
 UNIX like FreeBSD),
 maybe bonny for harddrives?

For a burn-in test, I something like the following to be efficaceous:

# cd /usr/src
# while true ; do make buildworld buildkernel ; done

and leave to compute vigourously overnight.  If that can run
continuously for 12 hours then you can be pretty confident that your
hardware is A-OK.  Plus if the magic smoke has not been emitted after
12 hours or so of that, you can be pretty confident you machine will
stand up to load. Of course, this might not be exactly what the
original poster wants as it does assume you've put at least a minimal
install of FreeBSD on the system, together with all of the kernel and
system sources.

   Cheers,

   Matthew

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Setting up a syslog server to store Fortigate log files

2005-01-28 Thread Danny
I have a Fortigate firewall which allows me to direct the logs to a
remote host (syslog server). I am running FreeBSD 4.9R -- do I simply
point my firewall to the IP of my server and the logs will
automagically appear in /var/log?

The Fortigate is asking for the IP, port, and if I want to store as
CSV (I know; personal preference; not important).

Sadly, I have never done this before, so please be gentle. :)

Thank you,

...D
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Re: Poor information in ports UPDATING file

2005-01-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 11:01:06AM +, Chris Hodgins wrote:

 20050126:
 AFFECTS: users of x11-wm/xfce4
 AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Maybe I am just too used to the excellent amount of detail in the 
 UPDATING file usually but this doesn't even offer advice on how to 
 update your plugins.  Every UPDATING file entry I have found useful in 
 the past has always had a command you could use to carry out this update 
 plus whether you should update your port first then update the dependencies.

Talk to the author, then.

Kris


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Re: Missing INDEX file in Ports

2005-01-28 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 03:34:46AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

 INDEX has been included with every CDROM pressing of FreeBSD 4.x
 previously.  And this will be the last 4.X pressing.  So, it must
 have required a really severe space
 crunch to justify this significant of a deviation.

It was probably just forgotten.  Talk to the release engineers.

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Re: How does FreeBSD access NetBSD, OpenBSD?

2005-01-28 Thread J65nko BSD
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 19:17:33 -0800, Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD on the same hard drive of my system.
 How can I mount the NetBSD or OpenBSD partitions from FreeBSD?
 
 Slice 1 - Ext3fs for data between linux/bsd
 Slice 2 - OpenBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
 Slice 3 - FreeBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,d,e,f)
 Slice 4 - Extended slice composed of:
Slice 5 - NetBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
Slice 6 - Unformatted as of yet.
 
 FreeBSD is, of course running fine, but I can't see any of the other
 slices/partitions on the drive including the ext3fs partition.
 $ ls /dev/ad1*
 /dev/ad1/dev/ad1s3  /dev/ad1s3c /dev/ad1s3f
 /dev/ad1s6
 /dev/ad1s1  /dev/ad1s3a /dev/ad1s3d /dev/ad1s4
 /dev/ad1s2  /dev/ad1s3b /dev/ad1s3e /dev/ad1s5
 
 I can seem to access all the linux partitions on my first drive ad0,
 but that drive is only linux so there are no complex partitions in
 slices like on ad1.  I would expect that the nature of geom, I should
 be able to access all the partitions fine, but I might be missing
 something.
[snip]

OpenBSD and NetBSD have one single label for the whole disk or all
slices, unlike FreeBSD that has a separate disklabel for each slice.
See http://www.freebsdforums.org/forums/showthread.php?s=threadid=27859

=Adriaan=
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How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions

2005-01-28 Thread Greg Lehey

How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions.
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Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $

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questions (the hackers).

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In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the
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In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration
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The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda

2005-01-28 Thread Greg Lehey
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computer books are out of date almost before they are printed.  Unfortunately,
The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception.  Inevitably, a
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The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its
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Re: How does FreeBSD access NetBSD, OpenBSD?

2005-01-28 Thread Scott Bennett
 On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:18:55 -0500 (EST) Jerry McAllister
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I have FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD on the same hard drive of my system.
 How can I mount the NetBSD or OpenBSD partitions from FreeBSD?
 
 Slice 1 - Ext3fs for data between linux/bsd
 Slice 2 - OpenBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
 Slice 3 - FreeBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,d,e,f)
 Slice 4 - Extended slice composed of:
Slice 5 - NetBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
Slice 6 - Unformatted as of yet.

Hmmm,  First thing I see is that only 4 slices are allowed on a drive.

 Not true.  In fact, I have 8 slices on one of my drives.  The slice
entries in the Master Boot Record, wherein they are known as primary
partition entries, are four in number, but one of those four can point,
instead of to a partition (i.e., slice in UNIX terms), to a chain of
logical partition table entries, known collectively as the extended
partition.  The FreeBSD kernel appears to have no trouble with this at
all.
 The main limitation w.r.t. FreeBSD is that the slice containing the
bootable root file system must be a primary rather than a logical.
This limitation probably means that FreeBSD's boot loader isn't smart
enough to understand and follow the logical partition/slice chain to
locate the file system containing the kernel to be loaded.  From what
I've read, LINUX's LILO boot loader *can* do this.  Perhaps the FreeBSD
loader will be made smarter someday, but I'd guess that would be a low-
priority item on the developer team's to-do list.


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1st security warning: installed zlib version may contain a security bug

2005-01-28 Thread Timothy Luoma
I was trying to configure  make 'clamav-0.81' when it complained 
about this:

configure: error: The installed zlib version may contain a security 
bug. Please upgrade to 1.2.2 or later: http://www.zlib.net. You can 
omit this check with --disable-zlib-vcheck but DO NOT REPORT any 
stablility issues then!

I went to zlib.net, downloaded 1.2.2, did './configure  make install 
clean'

Is that all I need to do?  This is my first security warning so I 
want to make sure I'm not missing something obvious.

Is there a good What newbies need to know about FreeBSD security out 
there?

TjL
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Re: How does FreeBSD access NetBSD, OpenBSD?

2005-01-28 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
  On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 11:18:55 -0500 (EST) Jerry McAllister
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I have FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD on the same hard drive of my system.
  How can I mount the NetBSD or OpenBSD partitions from FreeBSD?
  
  Slice 1 - Ext3fs for data between linux/bsd
  Slice 2 - OpenBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
  Slice 3 - FreeBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,d,e,f)
  Slice 4 - Extended slice composed of:
 Slice 5 - NetBSD slice with 4 ufs partitions and swap (a,b,e,f,g)
 Slice 6 - Unformatted as of yet.
 
 Hmmm,  First thing I see is that only 4 slices are allowed on a drive.
 
  Not true.  In fact, I have 8 slices on one of my drives.  The slice
 entries in the Master Boot Record, wherein they are known as primary
 partition entries, are four in number, but one of those four can point,
 instead of to a partition (i.e., slice in UNIX terms), to a chain of
 logical partition table entries, known collectively as the extended
 partition.  The FreeBSD kernel appears to have no trouble with this at
 all.

Well, somebody else has already posted a better answer than mine.
So, problem solved.

But, geez, I would hate to deal with all that much complication on 
one disk.   Extra disks are too cheap to get in to it that deep.

jerry


  The main limitation w.r.t. FreeBSD is that the slice containing the
 bootable root file system must be a primary rather than a logical.
 This limitation probably means that FreeBSD's boot loader isn't smart
 enough to understand and follow the logical partition/slice chain to
 locate the file system containing the kernel to be loaded.  From what
 I've read, LINUX's LILO boot loader *can* do this.  Perhaps the FreeBSD
 loader will be made smarter someday, but I'd guess that would be a low-
 priority item on the developer team's to-do list.
 
 
   Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG
 **
 * Internet:   bennett at cs.niu.edu  *
 **
 * A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good  *
 * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments *
 * -- a standing army.   *
 *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 *
 **
 

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cdcontrol fails

2005-01-28 Thread Ramiro Aceves
Hello FreeBSD friends.
I have been learning 5.3 FreeBSD on an old pentium 75 box on the last weeks.
The main target for this system is to have a light weight window manager to
surf the Internet and read emails. I have even compiled the kernel to
include
sound drivers. The system works pretty well with the fluxbox wm, links and
dillo WEB browsers, and sylpheed for email. This system is the mix
result of old
hardware I have received from friends, and even a CD-Writer and a spare 4GB
hard disk I got from my main computer (as I bought a DVD writer and have
another 40GB drive).
I has been a great experience to get things working, and learning at the
same
time. The great problem is that the machine is very slow for compiling :-(
Well, the system has got a CD-R and a CD-RW unit. The CD-R unit is an old
unit by Goldstar (I do not know what speed it is) and is placed as
master.
The CD-RW unit is a LG model 3 years old and is s slave. I tried to
listen
some music CD on the CD-R drive and got the following error messages:
 #cdcontrol -v -f /dev/acd0 play 1
 acd0:FAILURE - PLAY_MSF ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x21 ascq=0x00
error=4ABORTED
 dmesg line for  the drive at boot time is:
 acd0 CDROM GCD-R540C/1.01 at ata1-master BIOSPIO
 The CD-RW drive works nicely with cdcontrol.
If you need more information, I will be pleased to help.
Even if you need the CD-R unit for development, it is yours.
Thanks.
Ramiro.

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Re: Java Runtime Environment (JRE)?

2005-01-28 Thread Clint Olsen
On Jan 28, Loren M. Lang wrote:
 Yea, I'm pretty sure everything will be taken care of automatically for
 mozilla and firefox to use it automatically, but in case it isn't you
 need to make sure you have a soft link to the libjavaplugin_oji.so file
 installed by the port in the firefox plugins directory.

Actually, it didn't work this way for me, so I did have to make the
symbolic link myself (to the ns610 version of it):

% cd ~/.mozilla/plugins
% ln -s /usr/local/jdk1.4.2/jre/plugin/i386/ns610/libjavaplugin_oji.so

I guess this sort of makes sense.  You may have multiple versions of Java
laying around, and perhaps you want to customize that on a per-user basis.

-Clint
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my ntfs_mount disepeared today?

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
How come i dont have ntfs_mount anymore ?

7rxI# ntfs_mount
ntfs_mount: Command not found.
7rxI#

has it something to do with the boot.conf ?
comon who stole my ntfs toy ? i want it back :(
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Re: Sound issues

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:19:32 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I'm have been using FreeBSD 5.3 since the day it was officially released, 
 altough I had little experience with Unix-based OS before it. I have found 
 that the enviroment provided by FreeBSD is perfect for my work, but I'm 
 trying to get decent multimedia experience either. So to the point - I have 
 the Epox 8RDA+ Pro mainboard with the following onboard audio : 6-CH audio 
 from onboard RealTek ALC65x AC'97 v2.3 compliant CODEC. I'm currently using 
 the ich_snd driver. I get sound via it, but it is far from being good, not to 
 mention perfect... With the stereo output I'm fine, I can live without the 
 surround capabilities of the card. But only if the quality of the stereo 
 playback was good - and belive me - it isn't. The basses are awful and it is 
 not caused by some mixer settings, of that I'm certain. If fact the basses 
 are almost missing and the high frequences heavily distorted. I heard that 
 the opensound driver can help but it does not recognize my audio... So I'm 
 asking is there someone using sound device same as mine while getting decent 
 output or should I buy some high quality sound card such as Audigy 2 for 
 which I know there are some nice drivers. And one more question regarding the 
 sound - if I get an Audigy 2 sound card will I get the 6.1 surround or I will 
 still be stuck with stereo.
 
 I thank you in advance for your responses.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Bozhidar Batsov, a devoted open-source enforcer and FreeBSD lover :)
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install this http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi
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make index

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
why does make index don't work when you use a refuse file ?
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Re: Witch apache, mysql and php do i need ?

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:50:24 +, Matthew Seaman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 28, 2005 at 09:09:42AM +0100, Gert Cuykens wrote:
  On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:46:09 +0100, christophe ollier
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   It seems your ports index is missing. I think you can try this to make
   another one :
  
   cd /usr/ports
   make fetchindex
   portsdb -u
  
 
  woh :)
 
  7rxI# make pretty-print-run-depends-list
  This port requires package(s) apache-1.3.33_1 expat-1.95.8
  fontconfig-2.2.3,1 freetype2-2.1.7_4 jpeg-6b_3 mysql-client-4.0.23a
  openssl-0.9.7e_2 pdflib-6.0.1_1 pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 perl-5.8.5
  php4-4.3.10_2 php4-bz2-4.3.10_2 php4-gd-4.3.10_2 php4-mysql-4.3.10_2
  php4-openssl-4.3.10_2 php4-pcre-4.3.10_2 php4-zlib-4.3.10_2
  pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 png-1.2.8 t1lib-5.0.1,1 xorg-libraries-6.8.1_1 to
  run.
  7rxI#
 
  still see apache-1.3.33 doh aldo i said in make.cong to pic 2.1 ?
 
 Ah -- yes.  That's because the INDEX-5 you download by doing 'make
 fetchindex' is built using the default settings /only/.  You can build
 your own index, which should reflect your local configuration changes,
 but that will take some time and thrash your disk drive a bit.
 
 For instance, on my system with a slightly different list of make.conf
 settings I get:
 
 % cd /usr/ports/databases/phpmyadmin/
 % make pretty-print-run-depends-list
 This port requires package(s) apache-2.0.52_4 expat-1.95.8 
 fontconfig-2.2.3,1 freetype2-2.1.7_4 jpeg-6b_3 libiconv-1.9.2_1 
 libxml2-2.6.17 mysql-client-4.1.9 pdflib-6.0.1_1 pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 perl-5.8.5 
 php5-5.0.3_2 php5-bz2-5.0.3_2 php5-gd-5.0.3_2 php5-mysql-5.0.3_2 
 php5-openssl-5.0.3_2 php5-pcre-5.0.3_2 php5-zlib-5.0.3_2 pkgconfig-0.15.0_1 
 png-1.2.8 t1lib-5.0.1,1 xorg-libraries-6.8.1_1 to run.
 
 Building your own index can be done via several means: 'make index' is
 the standard, but it takes a bit of time.  Not to blow my own trumpet
 too much, but see also the sysutils/p5-FreeBSD-Portindex port.
 
 However, worrying about what the index contains is really a bit of a
 diversion.  The true test is just to try some actual software
 downloading and building.  Try:
 
 # make fetch-recursive
 
 which will attempt to download all of the various bits of source code
 needed to build the port and anything else not yet installed on your
 machine that it depends on.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Matthew
 
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thx is there also a command that just tells you what it is going to
download without downloading it ?
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Re: cvsup doc-all

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 12:42:35 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2005-01-28 09:04, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 09:51:07 +0200, Giorgos Keramidas
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Yep.  If you think a bit about it, you will see it makes more sense.
  What is it that you download with src-all?  The sources of the system.
  The doc-all collection downloads the sources of the documentation.
 
  aha but all docs will be updated when you do a buildworld right ?
 
 Nope.  The build of the documentation is not, shall we say, self
 contained in the base system of FreeBSD.  It requires many tools that
 are not part of the base system.
 
 This means buildworld cannot assume that you have all of them, so it
 doesn't try to build the documentation too.
 
  Look at `/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk'.  It has a huge list of sites where
  port distfiles are downloaded from.  You can tweak this list by setting
  similar variables in your `/etc/make.conf' file, i.e.:
 
  MASTER_SITE_GNU?=   ftp://ftp.ntua.gr/pub/gnu/%SUBDIR%/
 
  Note the conditional assignment with ?= there.  The 'make.conf' file
  should very rarely set things unconditionally, with FOO=bar.
 
  so basicly you dont have to worry about ports server because it will
  find the best server by it self ?
 
 Basically, yes.  Not all the time, but that's the idea.  Everything is
 customizable though, to allow local fixes that make more sense.
 
 This is why I set MASTER_SITE_GNU as shown above in my machines -- it
 makes more sense for machines installed in Greece.  The ftp.ntua.gr
 mirror is usually very up to date and it's one of the fastest Greek FTP
 servers around.  Putting it on the top of the MASTER_SITE_GNU list means
 that whenever I try to build some GNU tool, ftp.ntua.gr is the first
 server contacted.  If that fails to locate the distfile, the usual list
 of servers takes over.
 
  why does cvsup not work the same way ?
 
 Because it wasn't written to do so.  There is a utility in ports,
 sysutils/fastest_cvsup, that may help you find the fastest CVSup server
 at any given time :-)
 
 - Giorgos
 

ok thx :)
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Re: make index

2005-01-28 Thread Kent Stewart
On Friday 28 January 2005 10:10 am, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 why does make index don't work when you use a refuse file ?

Think of a complex computer program that depends on a number of modules. 
With the refuse, you have removed some modules that the program needs 
to build a complete, new version. Since all you are refusing is the 
structure files and patches, you really don't save that much space.

FWIW, if you use fetchindex to download a new INDEX, you don't have to 
spend a lot of resources building a new index. I timed make fetchindex 
and found the following.

#time make fetchindex
INDEX.bz2 100% of  612 kB   83 kBps
0.976u 0.048s 0:08.87 11.3% 146+4723k 1+52io 0pf+0w

The 8.87 seconds included the time required to download and unbzip2 
INDEX.bz2 into INDEX. 

Kent

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http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html
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Re: make index

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 10:26:33 -0800, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 28 January 2005 10:10 am, Gert Cuykens wrote:
  why does make index don't work when you use a refuse file ?
 
 Think of a complex computer program that depends on a number of modules.
 With the refuse, you have removed some modules that the program needs
 to build a complete, new version. Since all you are refusing is the
 structure files and patches, you really don't save that much space.
 
 FWIW, if you use fetchindex to download a new INDEX, you don't have to
 spend a lot of resources building a new index. I timed make fetchindex
 and found the following.
 
 #time make fetchindex
 INDEX.bz2 100% of  612 kB   83 kBps
 0.976u 0.048s 0:08.87 11.3% 146+4723k 1+52io 0pf+0w
 
 The 8.87 seconds included the time required to download and unbzip2
 INDEX.bz2 into INDEX.
 
 Kent
 
 --
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 Richland, WA
 
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the problem with downloading it is that it uses default settings for
example if you put a index change in the make.conf
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does freebsd has a bit torrent client ?

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
cant find it in ports
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Firefox about:plugins

2005-01-28 Thread Steven Friedrich
I'm running FreeBSD 4.11 (tracking STABLE).  I recently installed jdk1,4,2 and 
firefox.  My firefox doesn't have an about:plugins menu item.  Did I miss 
something?
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Re: does freebsd has a bit torrent client ?

2005-01-28 Thread Jeremy Faulkner
Gert Cuykens wrote:
cant find it in ports
There are at least half a dozen in the ports collection. Look harder, 
they're in ports/net

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Re: my ntfs_mount disepeared today?

2005-01-28 Thread Gert Cuykens
On Fri, 28 Jan 2005 18:33:36 +, Xian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 28 January 2005 17:57, Gert Cuykens wrote:
  How come i dont have ntfs_mount anymore ?
 
  7rxI# ntfs_mount
  ntfs_mount: Command not found.
  7rxI#
 
 Would it be mount_ntfs your looking for.
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lol :)  found it back again :)
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Re: Firefox about:plugins

2005-01-28 Thread Daniel S. Haischt
you have to type about:plugins into the URL text field, this
is the text field where you normaly type URLs such as http://
org ftp://
Steven Friedrich schrieb:
I'm running FreeBSD 4.11 (tracking STABLE).  I recently installed jdk1,4,2 and 
firefox.  My firefox doesn't have an about:plugins menu item.  Did I miss 
something?
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