Re: ssh default security risc
On 2005-02-03 22:54, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On 2005-02-04 01:04, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 00:05:34 +, Chris Hodgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: True but the point is without the ssh root enabled there is nothing you can do about it to stop them if they change your user password [...] You may also want to consider than having SSH enabled for root means there is only ONE step at becoming root from any remote location. Having to SSH as a user first, with the right combination of SSH keys and passwords, and then use su(1) with yet another password is at least one more step. Why is the first, 1-step procedure safer than the second? I think I'm going to interject a few things here to this discussion, which has turned into a rediculous religious argument. In answer to your question about a 1-step procedure safer than the second, well as a matter of fact there are circumstances when it is. For example: [snip great advice about securing ssh access] I was (perhaps not so) obviously referring to all other things being equal, allowing ssh access to a plain user is safer than allowing direct ssh access to root. All great points, though. Thanks Ted. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: couldn't start KDE.
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:47:53 +, nbco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:04, BSD Mail wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:48:13 -0800, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 February 2005 11:28 pm, BSD Mail wrote: snip Did you see the error message about /tmp/.ICE-unix. Check the ownership. Kent Sorry I forgot to mention that this is the second thing I tried actually. I noticed the permissions for 3 other directory and the .ICE-unix under /'tmp as root:wheel I ran chown -R user:user on them it got rid of most the errors but still, I was getting an error about that .ICE-unix directory. the third thing I did is I rm -rf everything under /tmp and started kde again. Less errors and still showing the .ICE-unix error and my previous attachment was the least error I was able to get. snip Hi, In relaton to the .ICE_unix directory, UPDATING deals with it in part (see below). I like having clear_tmp_enable=YES so to avoid this problem, I created the directory /etc/rc.local with the following line: mkdir -p -m 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix This means that I can still clear out my tmp directories automatically on reboot and maintain the ICE-unix permissions. I hope this helps .nbco 20041229: AFFECTS: users of x11/kdebase3, x11-servers/xorg-server AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If KDE does not start anymore after upgrading Xorg to version 6.8.1 (X restarts when the KDE splash screen has reached the third icon), please check whether the directory /tmp/.ICE-unix exists, is owned by root and has permissions 1777 (read/write/access for everybody + sticky bit). To make sure everything is in working order, do (as root): mkdir -p /tmp/.ICE-unix chmod 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix chown root:wheel /tmp/.ICE-unix Also, make sure you do NOT have clear_tmp_enable=YES set in /etc/rc.conf, as it will remove the directory on every reboot and applications will re-create it with the wrong ownership. Users of daily_clean_tmps_enable in /etc/periodic.conf should make sure daily_clean_tmps_ignore contains /tmp/.ICE-unix. Thanks very much that did help. I'm able to start KDE, and no more error pop-ups. There is only one small thing what would make my day. Under Control Center --- Peripherals --- Display I'm only able to run 640x480 @ 60 Hz I can't change those values. As I mentioned before I failed to use the Modes directive in xorg.conf The video card is GeForce4 440 Go and I'm using the nv driver. I'm attaching my xorg.conf file. You won't see the Modes directive anywhere because if added kde or blackbox will fail to start. Thanks again, have a good day. -- Regards, ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How will I rename every file in a directory to their filenames appending anything?
Example. I would want to rename every file that ends in .mp3 to their filename with appended .old. so that, test.mp3 will be renamed test.mp3.old? my initial command would then be: ls |grep mp3 |xargs -J # mv #..[this part is what trying to figure out] How will I tell the mv that its arguments would be the output of ls and append something like .old to it? ~ Thanks! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How will I rename every file in a directory to their filenames appending anything?
Best handled with a shell loop, offhand: % for file in *.mp3 ; do mv $file $file.old ; done Modifying to suit your tastes. --Mac On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 12:23:50AM -0800, Mark Jayson Alvarez wrote: Example. I would want to rename every file that ends in .mp3 to their filename with appended .old. so that, test.mp3 will be renamed test.mp3.old? my initial command would then be: ls |grep mp3 |xargs -J # mv #..[this part is what trying to figure out] How will I tell the mv that its arguments would be the output of ls and append something like .old to it? ~ Thanks! __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Julian Mac Mason[EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science '06 (909)-607-3129 Harvey Mudd College pgpE2v2HVGgXk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: couldn't start KDE.
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 00:18:27 -0800, BSD Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:47:53 +, nbco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 February 2005 09:04, BSD Mail wrote: On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:48:13 -0800, Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 02 February 2005 11:28 pm, BSD Mail wrote: snip Did you see the error message about /tmp/.ICE-unix. Check the ownership. Kent Sorry I forgot to mention that this is the second thing I tried actually. I noticed the permissions for 3 other directory and the .ICE-unix under /'tmp as root:wheel I ran chown -R user:user on them it got rid of most the errors but still, I was getting an error about that .ICE-unix directory. the third thing I did is I rm -rf everything under /tmp and started kde again. Less errors and still showing the .ICE-unix error and my previous attachment was the least error I was able to get. snip Hi, In relaton to the .ICE_unix directory, UPDATING deals with it in part (see below). I like having clear_tmp_enable=YES so to avoid this problem, I created the directory /etc/rc.local with the following line: mkdir -p -m 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix This means that I can still clear out my tmp directories automatically on reboot and maintain the ICE-unix permissions. I hope this helps .nbco 20041229: AFFECTS: users of x11/kdebase3, x11-servers/xorg-server AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If KDE does not start anymore after upgrading Xorg to version 6.8.1 (X restarts when the KDE splash screen has reached the third icon), please check whether the directory /tmp/.ICE-unix exists, is owned by root and has permissions 1777 (read/write/access for everybody + sticky bit). To make sure everything is in working order, do (as root): mkdir -p /tmp/.ICE-unix chmod 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix chown root:wheel /tmp/.ICE-unix Also, make sure you do NOT have clear_tmp_enable=YES set in /etc/rc.conf, as it will remove the directory on every reboot and applications will re-create it with the wrong ownership. Users of daily_clean_tmps_enable in /etc/periodic.conf should make sure daily_clean_tmps_ignore contains /tmp/.ICE-unix. Thanks very much that did help. I'm able to start KDE, and no more error pop-ups. There is only one small thing what would make my day. Under Control Center --- Peripherals --- Display I'm only able to run 640x480 @ 60 Hz I can't change those values. As I mentioned before I failed to use the Modes directive in xorg.conf The video card is GeForce4 440 Go and I'm using the nv driver. I'm attaching my xorg.conf file. You won't see the Modes directive anywhere because if added kde or blackbox will fail to start. Thanks again, have a good day. Sorry forgot to attach my xorg.conf file. I just need to know how can I increase the resolution to lets say 1024x768 there should be a directive that works if the Modes directive is refused by xorg.conf. -- Regards, Section ServerLayout Identifier X.org Configured Screen 0 Screen0 0 0 InputDeviceMouse0 CorePointer InputDeviceKeyboard0 CoreKeyboard EndSection Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/ EndSection Section Module Load dbe Load dri Load extmod Load glx Load record Load xtrap Load freetype Load speedo Load type1 EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard0 Driver keyboard EndSection Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse0 Driver mouse Option Protocol auto Option Device /dev/sysmouse EndSection Section Monitor Identifier Monitor0 VendorName Monitor Vendor ModelNameMonitor Model ### Uncomment if you don't want to default to DDC: # HorizSync31.5 - 57.0 # VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0 EndSection Section Device ### Available Driver options are:- ### Values: i: integer, f: float, bool: True/False, ### string: String, freq: f Hz/kHz/MHz ### [arg]: arg optional #Option SWcursor # [bool] #Option HWcursor # [bool] #Option NoAccel # [bool] #Option ShadowFB # [bool] #Option UseFBDev # [bool] #Option Rotate# [str] #Option VideoKey # i #Option FlatPanel
RE: ssh default security risc
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Giorgos Keramidas Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:09 AM To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ssh default security risc [snip great advice about securing ssh access] I was (perhaps not so) obviously referring to all other things being equal, allowing ssh access to a plain user is safer than allowing direct ssh access to root. Much better - and such a statement is an academic, (not a religious), comparison - which is where the discussion should be. Unfortunately the OP - in typical troll fashion, although I'm not accusing him of being a troll - yet - provided absolutely no details of what the heck his environment was or what he was really doing - which usually lays rich ground for the discussion to spin out of control. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
seems there is some problem with load
Hi All, I have recompiled kernel to include SMP. Thereafter, I can see the load is greater than or equals 5 at any time. I can see that system is taking above 50% of server resources in this server. CPU states: 5.8% user, 2.1% nice, 51.7% system, 4.8% interrupt, 35.5% idle Mem: 1716M Active, 1056M Inact, 354M Wired, 121M Cache, 199M Buf, 240M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 1068K Used, 2047M Free I have never seen that system uses above 50%, in my other server, it's near 2%. Any idea?? -- With Regards, Akhthar Parvez.K System Administrator - NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE Because Impossible itself says I'M POSSIBLE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Disk Copy Software
Donald L Swoboda wrote: Is there a Disk To Disk copy software available that can be used to copy/backup a disk that has FreeBSD operating system installed. I would like to copy my existing disk to another disk as a backup. The dd utility allows you to make an excact mirror, I think you can even get a bootable mirror disk. But for plain backup purposed, I think it is more efficient to use the rsync utility, this will only transfer differences, so the second backup should be much faster. A third option is to setup a raid. Raid-1 is for disk mirroring (if you have 3 disks you can setup a raid-5 and with four raid-0/1). Raid will keep your mirror updated live - but don't ask me about more details :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: FreeBSD 3.2
Greg, forgive the top post, If you are a volunteer then you can do what you want - what are they going to do, fire you? Har har. Seriously - from a legal perspective you have absolutely no obligation to follow their restrictions unless of course they were smart enough to have you sign a piece of paper before they let you in the door. No contractual relationship exists between you and them now, you can ignore what they tell you to do with impunity as long as you don't break any civil laws, ie: theft, malicious mischief, etc. All they can do is tell you your not welcome in the door anymore. If nobody at the school knows anything about FreeBSD then they won't know the difference between 3.2 and 4.11. What does this system boot into - a console with a login prompt on it. Do you think 4.11 will be any different? I cannot imagine in any case that this server, as old as it is, is running on any special hardware. I would bet that I have better hardware in my scrap pile in the basement than this server. You probably do too. If you try running 3.2 your just going to set yourself up for failure. My guess is that this is probably what they want. They have this old server in the corner that whomever is in charge of their network hates, that person wants it to crash and burn to have an excuse to get rid of it and spend the money on a nice new Windows box. You are just helping this person out by giving him a breather so he can work on windowizing some other system, once he gets done with that one your FreeBSD 3.2 system will be gone quicker than grapes through a goose. To be perfectly honest you really need to rethink your help. There's probably a dozen other charities in the area that have worse need than this ungrateful school, and would happily let you upgrade to a current FreeBSD version which wouldn't be a nightmare for you to administer. Take it from me I'm an old hand at volunteering. Volunteers bring their talents to an organization because the organization needs their assistance. It's not the other way round. The second the organization stops valuing the volunteer is when they start telling the volunteer that they don't need the volunteer's efforts, and that the volunteer can only stay on if the volunteer does it the organization's way. But what you and the organization appear to be missing is that this kind of a relationship isn't a volunteer relationship - it's an employer/employee relationship. Now I am not saying that all charities out there just wouldn't love to have a raft of volunteers come in that they can boss around and tell exactly what to do. What I am saying is that charities that actually do this generally find quite quickly that they have no volunteers left. About the only ones that can get away with doing it this way are political campaigns, or charities like hospitals that people volunteer for because they want it to look good on a resume or some such. Everyone else, if they want to maintain a raft of volunteers, they cannot play the control freak card, they have to give the volunteers that they get, some leeway. Believe me, there's far more organizations looking for volunteers than volunteers looking for organizations. If you are willing to donate your time, your a valuable commodity - and if this school wants to get the free labor, they can't put these kinds of self-defeating restrictions on your efforts. Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:12 AM To: Andrew Lewis; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 3.2 Yea, that is in the works, here is alittle more info, the school that I am working with is moving mostly to winblows, and they do not have anyone to support the BSD machine or linux machine that they have. So the nice guy that I am, I am donating my time to the school to work on the servers and some of the sites. I got them to let me keep some of the websites on the BSD server so that I can have better control over the sites and software. But updating is out of the question at the momment because of policy and budget so I have to work with what I have at the momment. Only thing that I can do is add software at this time. That is why I need the info for FreeBSD 3.2 Greg On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:28:56 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At this momment I am not allowed to up date from FreeBSD 3.2 to another version, this machine sits at a school and there policies are slow Time to suggest a change of policy. ;) Suggest that they need to keep the server current; that you need to do a full upgrade on another drive; pop that drive into the existing server; resurrect the bits you need keep that installation current! No-one's going to make you, but long-term this is a more sensible policy. ;) -AL. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
RE: Docs for Berkeley Make?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jonathon McKitrick Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 7:12 AM To: Greg 'groggy' Lehey Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt Subject: Re: Docs for Berkeley Make? On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 01:23:23PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: : Older revisions of the O'Reilly book cover the Berkeley make. : : No, unfortunately not. Firstly this is a completely different book, : and secondly the old (Oram/Talbott) book also didn't cover Berkeley : Make. There's a little in my book Porting UNIX Software (out of : print but available at http://www.lemis.com/grog/PUS/. It's not very : much, though. Thanks for the link, I'll check it out. I have a new project at work which will be developed under Linux, and I was hoping to write makefiles that would work under both OSes using the same make command. But now I'm not so sure that will work. I don't understand why BSD make and GNU make diverged so much. They didn't diverge. Both have a set of core commands that they understand. The difference is in the extra candy, which you really don't need or want to use anyway, unless the project becomes gigantic. There's only a handful of open source projects out there which justify the extra fancy crapoola in GNU make, in my experience. Unfortunately there's far too many of them that require gmake simply because the programmer became enamored of some gimgaw in gmake that had a high coolness factor. It is really sad to see software that consists of about 10 source files, that has a makefile that's so non-standard that it requires gmake. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: seems there is some problem with load
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 02:19:16PM +0530, Akhthar Parvez. K wrote: Hi All, I have recompiled kernel to include SMP. Thereafter, I can see the load is greater than or equals 5 at any time. I can see that system is taking above 50% of server resources in this server. CPU states: 5.8% user, 2.1% nice, 51.7% system, 4.8% interrupt, 35.5% idle Mem: 1716M Active, 1056M Inact, 354M Wired, 121M Cache, 199M Buf, 240M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 1068K Used, 2047M Free I have never seen that system uses above 50%, in my other server, it's near 2%. Any idea?? Well, what is using the CPU? The rest of the top(1) display will show you (you may need to use top -S). Kris pgp4nF4n1XKSG.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)
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To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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Subject: RE: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password:
NO)
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Do you run php database driven apps on the same server as you use to
provide shell services? I don't. If the webserver is configured
right it won't allow remote clients to read the scripts, only execute
them.
Ted,
Shared hosting sites, in my experience anyways which I will
grant doesn't
mean much, is that your ftp access gives you:
-rw-r--r-- {$your_name} {$web_group} somefile.php
where {$web_group} is a common group that everyone belongs to and other
is always readable just cause it's easier leaving the
file/directory mask
as is.
Yes I see. I might also submit that the ISP dumb enough to give a
customer the root userID and password on the mysql server that
they are running on that shared server deserves what they get.
Meaning that if you can cd to some other users dir you can
read that file.
As well, in the case of php at least, web use of php does not
require the
execute bit to be set at all, only the read bit.
Yes, that is a good point - but I wasn't referring to that though.
The webserver should know that if it's got a .php extension that
it's supposed to run the file, not give it out plaintext to some
remote bozo with a web browser.
Again I speak for web use php scripts.
It is true that if you have a shared server setup with php, and you
are selling/giving/whatever customer access to php on this server,
that a customer foolish enough to have a php script setup world-readable
that has his database name and userID and password in it,
is basically allowing any other customer that has access to this
server, access to his database. And that other customer through
ignorance
or malice could wipe out the first customers data. Of course, this
doesen't compromise any other customers database on that mysql server
a we are presuming that the ISP has issued individual userID's and
passwords for each database to every customer. (NOT the root password)
Speaking as an ISP I would say if this happened to one of our customers
I would pretty much have the attitude of too bad, not our problem
as this would have meant that the customer with the trashed database
would have not actually bothered to read the information packet we
gave to him when he first requested php access on his shared site.
I think most other ISPs would have the same attitude. We're a nasty
bunch.
To me, [EMAIL PROTECTED] pretty much implied that the poster was
managing the mysql server. I cannot imagine him having this
kind of access on a shared server. (at least, not on one that was
run by any halfway competent ISP that is)
Actually as a point of fact about once a quarter I have a customer
e-mail me that he thinks that we must not have any security on our
shared webserver since he can do a cd ../ then ls -l and see everyone's
files. (we give shell access on some of our shared webservers) That
is the time I explain that it's really none of our business if a customer
chooses to exercise their right to NOT change the permissions bits
on their files. That usually quiets the smart guy down
espically after I explain that he's quite obviously chosen not to
change the permissions bits on his own files as well. :-)
Ted
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RE: seems there is some problem with load
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Akhthar Parvez. K Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: seems there is some problem with load Hi All, I have recompiled kernel to include SMP. Thereafter, I can see the load is greater than or equals 5 at any time. I can see that system is taking above 50% of server resources in this server. CPU states: 5.8% user, 2.1% nice, 51.7% system, 4.8% interrupt, 35.5% idle Mem: 1716M Active, 1056M Inact, 354M Wired, 121M Cache, 199M Buf, 240M Free Swap: 2048M Total, 1068K Used, 2047M Free I have never seen that system uses above 50%, in my other server, it's near 2%. Any idea?? Here's the output of top on my FreeBSD 4.11 server with dual PPro 200Mhz CPU's: last pid: 94053; load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 up 204+12:21:41 01:54:03 33 processes: 1 running, 32 sleeping CPU states: 0.2% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.8% idle Mem: 78M Active, 13M Inact, 25M Wired, 3896K Cache, 22M Buf, 2684K Free Swap: 241M Total, 211M Used, 30M Free, 87% Inuse I suppose this must have some meaning to you? How about an OS version for your OS at least? Better yet would be a complete description of what the hardware is, what the OS is, the kernel file you used to recompile with, and what your doing with this server. We are God's, but we aren't mindreaders. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portsdb -uU fails
While running portsdb -uU I get the following error: Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..icecast2-2.2.0,1: /usr/ports/multimedia/libtheora non-existent -- dependency list incomplete === audio/icecast2 failed *** Error code 1 1 error This is on FreeBSD 5.3 stable after a recent cvsup. Any help fixing this matter is appreciated. Vonleigh Simmons http://illusionart.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Memory problems
Hi i'm using FBSD 5.3-p5 and i having problems since 5.3, my memory is been fulled swap too but swap isn't been released, i always having some garbage on swap, and main memory is always partially occupied. How could i solve this ? -- Thanks Regards Luís Vitório Cargnini Bsc. Computer Science signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Intel EMT64 Xeon vs AMD Opteron
Cost wise, AMD Opteron 246 is roughly the same cost as a 3.0Ghz Xeon ... But how do they compare performance wise; specifically related to FreeBSD? We have a dual xeon (nocona) @ 3.2 GHz and a dual opteron @ 2 GHz, both with 4 GB RAM and running the amd64-port. My impression is that the opteron performs *slightly* better than it's Intel-cousin. regards Claus ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb -uU fails
On Friday 04 February 2005 02:04 am, Vonleigh Simmons wrote: While running portsdb -uU I get the following error: Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..icecast2-2.2.0,1: /usr/ports/multimedia/libtheora non-existent -- dependency list incomplete === audio/icecast2 failed *** Error code 1 1 error This is on FreeBSD 5.3 stable after a recent cvsup. Any help fixing this matter is appreciated. When this happens, the easy answer is to user make fetchindex and then only do a portsdb -u. I am not seeing any messages about INDEX dying in ports@ and that usually means you are refusing something that another port needs. The only choice then is to use fetchindex. Kent Vonleigh Simmons http://illusionart.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Xvfb server
Hi, I am currently doing the big upgrade with perl and all related packages. I have just noticed that I now have the Xvfb server running on 7001. My firewall stops it from being accessed remotely but I never had it running before. I am guessing that one of the ports that has been upgraded decided it needed it and so it was installed and turned on. I Just upgraded to Xfce4.2 as well (superb btw ;)). So my questions are: * Do I need this server running...the man page suggests it is for testing? * If I do need it, what package has added it and why? * Can I turn it off and how? Thanks Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Memory problems
Luís Vitório Cargnini wrote: Hi i'm using FBSD 5.3-p5 and i having problems since 5.3, my memory is been fulled swap too but swap isn't been released, i always having some garbage on swap, and main memory is always partially occupied. How could i solve this ? Have to say I have also been noticing FreeBSD swapping a whole lot more in the last week. It never used to swap before. I am also noticing that it is not being released on shutting down programs. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb -uU fails
When this happens, the easy answer is to user make fetchindex and then only do a portsdb -u. That worked fine. I'm confused though, am I not supposed to use the -U flag at all? Because after running those two I tried -Uu again and I got the same error. If I'm not supposed to use -U, has it been replaced by something or is it not necessary? Vonleigh Simmons http://illusionart.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb -uU fails
Vonleigh Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While running portsdb -uU I get the following error: Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please wait..icecast2-2.2.0,1: /usr/ports/multimedia/libtheora non-existent -- dependency list incomplete === audio/icecast2 failed *** Error code 1 1 error This is on FreeBSD 5.3 stable after a recent cvsup. Any help fixing this matter is appreciated. Figure out why /usr/ports/multimedia/libtheora is non-existent, and fix it. As another part of the message warned you, building an INDEX requires a *full* ports collection, so if you are missing some it will fail. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Memory problems
Luís Vitório Cargnini [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi i'm using FBSD 5.3-p5 and i having problems since 5.3, my memory is been fulled swap too but swap isn't been released, i always having some garbage on swap, and main memory is always partially occupied. How could i solve this ? Solve what? Nothing you've mentioned is a problem. See the FAQ entry Why does top show very little free memory even when I have very few programs running?: http://www.br.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/misc.html#TOP-FREEMEM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPFilter and traffic shaping
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 09:28:00AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: Is there a way to do traffic shaping using IPFilter, akin to what ipfw+dummynet does? FreeBSD 5.x here. Seeing as you're running 5.x, you've also got the choice of PF for firewalling. That's the OpenBSD fork of ipf with all sorts of goodies like CARP and ALTQ added to it. Syntax is very much like IPF, with lots of nice touches for easily doing standard things, eg. like antispoofing rules. See: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/ ALTQ will be able to do all of the traffic shaping you could desire. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgpnODVMtmU9f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Font in linux-base 8
Does anyone have problem with font in linux-base?At the moment i am using linux-realplayer 10 ,linux-firefox 1.0 and somehow the font isn't displayed cleanly like softwares that use the native fonts of FreeBSD,it seems to be not anti-aliased ,i think?I have tried to symlink even copy all the files in folder /usr/X11R6/etc/fonts to /usr/compat/linux/etc/fonts but it seems not to work ?Does anyone know how to solve it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Docs for Berkeley Make?
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:20:02AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: : The difference is in the extra candy, which you really don't need or want : to use anyway, unless the project becomes gigantic. : : There's only a handful of open source projects out there which justify : the extra : fancy crapoola in GNU make, in my experience. Unfortunately there's : far too many of them that require gmake simply because the programmer : became enamored of some gimgaw in gmake that had a high coolness factor. : It is really sad to see software that consists of about 10 source files, : that has a makefile that's so non-standard that it requires gmake. Well, I was just using existing BSD makefiles to learn with. But then I got interested in learning libraries. I'm still trying to find a tool or shortcut for handling sonames the best way. But then I found out we are doing a very large project on Linux. I want to make it work on both RH Linux (the target) and FreeBSD (to work on/use at home, of course). I've been learning about the GNU autotools, which seem very finicky, to say the least, but at the same time I don't have to worry about details, like linux-vs-BSD library details And it would be easy to handle, for instance, the difference between the names of serial ports on the 2 platforms. If this were only for BSD, I'd use the makefile framework. But it's not. And it's going to be a large enough project that I don't have the time to constantly fiddle with makefiles and such. And obviously, this also has to work with CVS. I'm the only developer with *any* real Unix experience, and that's very modest experience, to say the least. Any other ideas I should look into? Jonathon -- The beaten path is for the beaten man. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Funny disclaimers (Was: Re: ssh root@localhost)
On Feb 2 at 22:49, Erik Norgaard said with a chuckle: Sorry to join in on the noise: Occasionally noise on this otherwise studious list is fun. This is one time. *This* subscriber likes the change of pace :) Both statements are backwards and can't impose any responsibility on my behalf nor disclaim any responsibilty on behalf of the sender. just my 5 euro-cents. Doesn't that buy about $250 Candian right about now? That's a valuable contribution you just made. Disclaimer: [Apologies to all Canadians who may be reading this cack. The comment was directed at your oddly valued (undervalued) currency, not you lot per se!] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: portsdb -uU fails
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 03:34:43 -0800 Vonleigh Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When this happens, the easy answer is to user make fetchindex and then only do a portsdb -u. That worked fine. I'm confused though, am I not supposed to use the -U flag at all? Because after running those two I tried -Uu again and I got the same error. If I'm not supposed to use -U, has it been replaced by something or is it not necessary? *** Well i have ran into the same situation.I just added f for force and afterwards i updated everything that could be upgraded. So i most of the times use portsdb -Ufu and portupgrade -afrR or -arR serie/(meta-)app.This seems to work for me.Strange though because portsdb -Uu seemed to work for me until lately. Peter Harmsen Vonleigh Simmons http://illusionart.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newbie Help: IP firewall configuration
Hello, I am a UNIX/FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE newbie. I have posted several times to freebsd-newbies, but I think this question will get better reception here. I have installed Free-BSD-5.3-RELEASE full base installation with X. I am currently trying to configure my firewall. I have followed the instructions in the Handbook explicitly, though I didn't add any scripts to my ipf.rules file. My ipf.rules file is verbatim from the Handbook, though I altered some of the commented out sections; the rules themselves are verbatim. I am having a difficult time with this specific section: # Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable or DSL networks. # This rule is not needed for 'user ppp' type connection to the # public Internet, so you can delete this whole group. # Use the following rule and check log for IP address. # Then put IP address in commented out rule delete first rule pass out log quick on dc0 proto udp from any to any port = 67 keep state #pass out quick on dc0 proto udp from any to z.z.z.z port = 67 keep state Please help. How do I find the IP address referenced in the fourth #? Where is the log file that is referenced in the fourth #? If I need to use find, whereis, locate, or some other command line search tool to find the log file, please write out the details for me, because I am really struggling with command line syntax at this point. I have clearly suffered from too much exposure to the point and click world. Thank you! Mark P.S. Please let me know if I haven't provided enough information. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make.conf syntax question (MODULES_OERRRIDE)
I'm considering *not* loading unecessary modules in a new kernel, so I need to ask what seems like some dumb questions. In the kernel config file (MYKERNEL in this case) does commenting out stuff there stop some modules from loading? So for example if I comment out SCSI support are the relevant modules for that built, or not built when compiling the new kernel? It seems that the logical answer is they're not built if you comment them out yet I have no way of knowing if that instinct call is right or not. The second question concerns the make.conf MODULES_OVERRIDE option syntax. Is the syntax: a) MODULES_OVERRIDE = blah MODULES_OVERRIDE = blah_blah MODULES_OVERRIDE = blah_blah_bluh and so on until every one you want built is listed OR b) MODULES_OVERRIDE = /usr/src/sys/modules/blah MODULES_OVERRIDE = /usr/src/sys/modules/blah_blah MODULES_OVERRIDE = /usr/src/sys/modules/blah_blah_blah OR can it be: d) MODULES_OVERRIDE = module_a module_b module_c etc or finally: e) is there an include syntax with maybe a plain one-module-per-line file that could be inserted. Something like MODULES_OVERRIDE = /path/to/come/include_file.inc with include_file.inc having something maybe like this: foo bar goo gar where 'foo', 'bar' etc. are modules Sorry, but syntax is most often my weakest point and why things sometimes don't work the way I expect them to. Regards TIA, -Colin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
camcontrol cdb to disconnect drive
Hey, all. I want to replace a 9 GB SCSI drive with an 18 GB SCSI drive. All the hardware supports hot-swapping. Just for kicks, I thought I'd try to turn the drive off via SCSI commands and replace it without rebooting. The camcontrol utility doesn't have a disconnect command or a stop unit command (that I can find), so I was going to try to use 'camcontrol cdb' to send a stop unit command to the drive. Has anyone done anything similar? Can someone help me locate the necessary parameters to use for this command? All I can seem to find with Google is a quick reference for SCSI commands. It tells me the command to use is 1B, but I don't know what other details are needed to fill out the CDB command. I need to fill 6, 10, 12, or 16 bytes, and I only have the first. Help? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can't build jail in 5.3-RELEASE-p5
When 5.3-RELEASE first became available in November, there was a problem building a jail (% make world DESTDIR=). That problem was fixed in -STABLE and I had hoped that fix would make its way into the -RELEASE errata/bug-fix stream as well. I had a -STABLE system from early November where this was fixed (but early enough that there were barely any changes from -RELEASE), and updated to -RELEASE-p5 last night using cvsup. I tried to build a jail and I get an error early on. However, the error is much earlier than with the older bug and I am not sure if they are related. I can do a make buildworld for the system but as soon as I add a DESTDIR= to it it fails. Here is the complete log of what is happening (where D = /local/jails/m which was created with mkdir -p $D -- line by line following man jail instructions) host# make world DESTDIR=$D -- make world started on Fri Feb 4 01:32:28 MST 2005 -- -- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/c++/3.3 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/sys mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/dict mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devascii mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devcp1047 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devdvi mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devhtml mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devkoi8-r mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlatin1 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlbp mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlj4 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devps mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devutf8 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mdoc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mm mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/compat/aout mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/ldscripts mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/misc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/defs mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/mibs mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /dev/null ln -sf /usr/src/sys /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 -- stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR= INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/ sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS=-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk DESTDIR=/local/jails/m -m /usr/src/share/mk make -f Makefile.inc1 BOOTSTRAPPING=503001 -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOLINT -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS legacy === tools/build /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/tools/build created for /usr/src/tools/build cd /usr/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a-I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include -c /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c building static egacy library ranlib libegacy.a sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -C -o root -g wheel -m 444 libegacy.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib -- stage 1.2: bootstrap tools -- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR= INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/ sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS=-m
Re: Intel EMT64 Xeon vs AMD Opteron
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Cost wise, AMD Opteron 246 is roughly the same cost as a 3.0Ghz Xeon ... But how do they compare performance wise; specifically related to FreeBSD? We have a dual xeon (nocona) @ 3.2 GHz and a dual opteron @ 2 GHz, both with 4 GB RAM and running the amd64-port. My impression is that the opteron performs *slightly* better than it's Intel-cousin. uh, slightly better at doing what? For pure networking, for example, a single 3.2 Xeon will outperform a dual opteron in most cases, but perhaps not at tasks that are well suited for multiprocessing. Factors like whether your NICs are on separate (tunneled) busses, whether you're using pci-express, etc will have a rather large impact on results. Its not just an is A better than B issue. And results will vary from MB to MB. Most opteron motherboards are not optimized to use the processor to its full advantages. Two different motherboards using exactly the SAME processor will have possibly substantial performance differences, so its rather difficult to compare different make processors that don't run on the same MB without qualifying the results. All you can really say is that Processor A on THIS motherboard performs better than Processor B on THAT motherboard when doing THIS particular task. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mbmon (in xmbmon port) on ASUS P4T-533
I'm running i386 FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE and I have installed port xmbmon. mbmon doesn't detect my hw sensoe, even though it's mentioned in the Readme in /usr/local/share/doc/xmbmon. The Readme mentions the P4T-533C, which is amost identical and uses the same hw monitor chip. I have tried adding smbus support to my kerenl config, i.e., device smbus # Bus support, required for smb below. device intpm device alpm device ichsmb device viapm device amdpm device smb and even device iicbus # Bus support, required for ic/iic/iicsmb below. device iicbb device ic device iic device iicsmb # smb over i2c bridge to no avail. I even removed /dev/smb0 and /dev/smb1 and then rebuilt xmbmon. I didn't see any ref to smb devices in dmesg, before or after removing the devices in /dev. Any ideas? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: camcontrol cdb to disconnect drive
In the last episode (Feb 04), Kevin A. Pieckiel said: I want to replace a 9 GB SCSI drive with an 18 GB SCSI drive. All the hardware supports hot-swapping. Just for kicks, I thought I'd try to turn the drive off via SCSI commands and replace it without rebooting. The camcontrol utility doesn't have a disconnect command or a stop unit command (that I can find), so I was going to try to use 'camcontrol cdb' $ camcontrol | grep stop camcontrol stop [dev_id] [generic args] Works for me. There's also a 'start' command. -- Dan Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MySQL query tool and Administrator
I'd be happy to try that. Quick question- I use KDE. Can I have GNOME installed on the same box with KDE without any conflicts? Can I run the compiled app via KDE? In ignornance, - Damian --- Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Schmehl Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 2:19 PM To: Damian Sobieralski; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: MySQL query tool and Administrator Go to /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base/ and install the linux emulator port. Then you can install the query browser. I've played with it a little. It works OK but tends to core occasionally. My God Paul, this is FreeBSD we are talking about, not Windows!!! Granted he will need the Gnome desktop installed since it calls for glib-2.0 and libxml-2.0 but the source is at the URL he gave, download it, unzip it, untar it, cd to ~mysql-query-browser and run configure then make and make install. No wonder you found it unstable. Since when does anyone run a Linux binary of a program that has source available?!?!? shaking head Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Flash 6 Slow with Mozilla
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 03:36:32 -0800 Loren M. Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been trying out the macromedia flash 6 plugin with mozilla recently by playing some flash games and everything seems to run much more slowly than they should. They run just fine on the same system running linux so I'm wondering if this is just a problem with freebsd's linux emulation. I'm using a native build of mozila 1.7.x with flash 6 on FreeBSD 5.3 running on a P4 2.4GHz with 1G 'o DDR 2700 ram so my system is plenty fast. Do other people have the same problem with it running slow or would something be misconfigured on my system. I'm also using linux_base-rh-9, but I think it was the same with version 7 or 8. I have experienced the same problem while playing a flash movie (the DOOM 3 trailer). I think it is the linux plugin emulation (linuxpluginwrapper). I solved this by installing a linux browser (like 'linux-mozilla', 'linux-opera' or 'linux-mozillafirebird') with 'linux-flashplugin-x'. So there is not a plugin wrapper between the browser and the plugin. That should work like in Linux. If you use Java, the linux browser will use (one of) the linux JDKs. So you will have to enable 'linprocfs' in fstab. The port 'linux-mozillafirebird' indicates that is works with 'linux-flashplugin-6' and 'linux-blackdown-jdk14'. Others except 'linux-opera' appear to do not have Java support. In my FreeBSD-5.3 I have 'linux-opera' with 'linux-flashplugin-7' and 'linux-sun-jdk-1.4' (I saw the falsh movie, even in full-screen mode). And I also have 'linuxpluginwrapper' and 'jdk-1.4' (native) for the native version of 'mozilla'. Best Regards, Ale ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MySQL query tool and Administrator
On Friday 04 February 2005 10:45 am, Damian Sobieralski wrote: I'd be happy to try that. Quick question- I use KDE. Can I have GNOME installed on the same box with KDE without any conflicts? Can I run the compiled app via KDE? In ignornance, - Damian Yes, KDE and Gnome can coexist peacefully. In most cases, Gnome apps can be run in KDE (and vice-versa) without any problems. Andrew Gould ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Within X, how can I see console messages?
I know I can Control-Alt-F1 to go back to the console, but is there a way to see these messages in an xterm or something? -- i386 FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How to get best results from FreeBSD-questions
How to get the best results from FreeBSD questions. === Last update $Date: 2004/09/19 02:40:48 $ This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD questions mailing list. If you got it in answer to a message you sent, it means that the sender thinks that at least one of the following things was wrong with your message: - You left out a subject line, or the subject line was not appropriate. - You formatted it in such a way that it was difficult to read. - You asked more than one unrelated question in one message. - You sent out a message with an incorrect date, time or time zone. - You sent out the same message more than once. - You sent an 'unsubscribe' message to FreeBSD-questions. If you have done any of these things, there is a good chance that you will get more than one copy of this message from different people. Read on, and your next message will be more successful. This document is also available on the web at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html. = Contents: I:Introduction II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions III: Should I ask -questions, -newbies or -hackers? IV: How to submit a question to FreeBSD-questions V:How to answer a question to FreeBSD-questions I: Introduction === This is a regular posting aimed to help both those seeking advice from FreeBSD-questions (the newcomers), and also those who answer the questions (the hackers). Note that the term hacker has nothing to do with breaking into other people's computers. The correct term for the latter activity is cracker, but the popular press hasn't found out yet. The FreeBSD hackers disapprove strongly of cracking security, and have nothing to do with it. In the past, there has been some friction which stems from the different viewpoints of the two groups. The newcomers accused the hackers of being arrogant, stuck-up, and unhelpful, while the hackers accused the newcomers of being stupid, unable to read plain English, and expecting everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. Of course, there's an element of truth in both these claims, but for the most part these viewpoints come from a sense of frustration. In this document, I'd like to do something to relieve this frustration and help everybody get better results from FreeBSD-questions. In the following section, I recommend how to submit a question; after that, we'll look at how to answer one. II: How to unsubscribe from FreeBSD-questions == When you subscribed to FreeBSD-questions, you got a welcome message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this message, amongst other things, it told you how to unsubscribe. Here's a typical message: Welcome to the freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list! If you ever want to unsubscribe or change your options (eg, switch to or from digest mode, change your password, etc.), visit your subscription page at: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions/[EMAIL PROTECTED] (obviously, substitute your mail address for [EMAIL PROTECTED]). You can also make such adjustments via email by sending a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the word 'help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions. You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. Normally, Mailman will remind you of your freebsd.org mailing list passwords once every month, although you can disable this if you prefer. This reminder will also include instructions on how to unsubscribe or change your account options. There is also a button on your options page that will email your current password to you. Here's the general information for the list you've subscribed to, in case you don't already have it: FREEBSD-QUESTIONS User questions This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send how to questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. Normally, unsubscribing is even simpler than the message suggests: you don't need to specify your mail ID unless it is different from the one which you specified when you subscribed. If Majordomo replies and tells you (incorrectly) that you're not on the list, this may mean one of two things: 1. You have changed your mail ID since you subscribed. That's where keeping the original message from majordomo comes in handy. For example, the sample message above shows my mail ID as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since then, I have changed it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If I were to try to remove [EMAIL PROTECTED] from the list, it would fail: I would have to specify the name with which I joined. 2. You're subscribed to a mailing list which is subscribed to
The Complete FreeBSD: errata and addenda
The trouble with books is that you can't update them the way you can a web page or any other online documentation. The result is that most leading edge computer books are out of date almost before they are printed. Unfortunately, The Complete FreeBSD, published by O'Reilly, is no exception. Inevitably, a number of bugs and changes have surfaced. The Complete FreeBSD has been through a total of five editions, including its predecessor Installing and Running FreeBSD. Two of these have been reprinted with corrections. I maintain a series of errata pages. Start at http://www.lemis.com/errata-4.html to find out how to get the errata information. Have you found a problem with the book, or maybe something confusing? Please let me know: I'm constantly updating it. Greg ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: Funny disclaimers (Was: Re: ssh root@localhost)
* Bart Silverstrim [2005-02-03 08:01 -0500] I wonder why if the messages are so important they don't PGP or GPG them. Wouldn't that make more sense for sensitive material? To send email from the Ullevål university hospital in Oslo, the first to words of the email needs to be ikke sensitiv (Norwegian for not confidential) in order for the email server to allow the email to be sent to the outside world. These restrictions do not apply for internal mail. If you don't include these two words, the email server will bounce it back to you, telling you to not send confidential information outside the hospital, or to include the magic words, in case that the message in fact is not confidential.___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Within X, how can I see console messages?
Steven Friedrich wrote: I know I can Control-Alt-F1 to go back to the console, but is there a way to see these messages in an xterm or something? xconsole When xdm starts, xconsole gets started, too, on my machine, I can't remember doing anything to get this behaviour, though. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: STABLE kernel update
Zlatozar Zhelyazkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I updated my FreeBSD up-to STABLE and build kernel, but uname -a shows FreeBSD-STABLE #0 It was suspicious that there is no kernel patch releases so I checked. Really there were! My question is - should I apply this patches or there are included in my last update (and applied with kernel build) ? That #0 has nothing to do with patch level; it just means that it is the first kernel you built in that directory. Assuming you correctly followed the upgrade directions, you are all set. I have to apply patches by hand, right? Is there binary update for STABLE systems? There is FreeBSD Update, but I don't think you need it; you are probably fully up-to-date. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make.conf syntax question (MODULES_OERRRIDE)
Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm considering *not* loading unecessary modules in a new kernel, so I need to ask what seems like some dumb questions. In the kernel config file (MYKERNEL in this case) does commenting out stuff there stop some modules from loading? So for example if I comment out SCSI support are the relevant modules for that built, or not built when compiling the new kernel? It seems that the logical answer is they're not built if you comment them out yet I have no way of knowing if that instinct call is right or not. By default, all of the modules are built whether you use them or not. That has nothing to do with the kernel config file; if you compile an option directly into the kernel, you don't need to load a module in order to use that functionality. The second question concerns the make.conf MODULES_OVERRIDE option syntax. Is the syntax: Don't bother with that option at all; your belief that you need it is based on your incorrect understanding of what modules (as opposed to kernel definitions) do. Other than a little bit extra build time, there's rarely any reason for an ordinary user to *not* build all of the modules every time. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Within X, how can I see console messages?
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 06:13:01PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: Steven Friedrich wrote: I know I can Control-Alt-F1 to go back to the console, but is there a way to see these messages in an xterm or something? xconsole When xdm starts, xconsole gets started, too, on my machine, I can't remember doing anything to get this behaviour, though. Kind regards, Benjamin Keep in mind that /dev/console may only be readable by root. You might have to change permissions on the device, or perhaps launch xconsole as the root user. There may be other ways to get around this. I just throw this into the mix as a problem that you may encounter. Nathan pgpV0VmrWxqvx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Within X, how can I see console messages?
Nathan Kinkade [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 06:13:01PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: Steven Friedrich wrote: I know I can Control-Alt-F1 to go back to the console, but is there a way to see these messages in an xterm or something? xconsole When xdm starts, xconsole gets started, too, on my machine, I can't remember doing anything to get this behaviour, though. Kind regards, Benjamin Keep in mind that /dev/console may only be readable by root. You might have to change permissions on the device, or perhaps launch xconsole as the root user. There may be other ways to get around this. I just throw this into the mix as a problem that you may encounter. The default xdm configuration runs xconsole from Xsetup (which runs as root) before starting the user's startup script. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Within X, how can I see console messages?
On Friday 04 February 2005 01:00 pm, Nathan Kinkade wrote: On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 06:13:01PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: Steven Friedrich wrote: I know I can Control-Alt-F1 to go back to the console, but is there a way to see these messages in an xterm or something? xconsole When xdm starts, xconsole gets started, too, on my machine, I can't remember doing anything to get this behaviour, though. This is setup automatically, and can be configured/removed from /usr/X11R6/lib/Xsetup_0. The command is as follows (it will probably wrap): xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed -exitOnFail Kind regards, Benjamin Keep in mind that /dev/console may only be readable by root. You might have to change permissions on the device, or perhaps launch xconsole as the root user. There may be other ways to get around this. I just throw this into the mix as a problem that you may encounter. Nathan I'm not running as root and I'm not having any problems issuing the following command with xterm: xconsole -daemon -notify -verbose -exitOnFail Of course, you'd probably prefer creating a link to the application for your Desktop and/or menu. Hope that helps, Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Within X, how can I see console messages?
Nathan Kinkade wrote: On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 06:13:01PM +0100, Benjamin Walkenhorst wrote: Steven Friedrich wrote: I know I can Control-Alt-F1 to go back to the console, but is there a way to see these messages in an xterm or something? xconsole When xdm starts, xconsole gets started, too, on my machine, I can't remember doing anything to get this behaviour, though. Kind regards, Benjamin Keep in mind that /dev/console may only be readable by root. You might have to change permissions on the device, or perhaps launch xconsole as the root user. There may be other ways to get around this. I just throw this into the mix as a problem that you may encounter. You uncomment this line in /etc/fbtab #/dev/ttyv0 0600/dev/console and start an xterm with '-c' IIRC Mark --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0505-1, 02/02/2005 Tested on: 04/02/2005 18:13:55 avast! - copyright (c) 2000-2004 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: camcontrol cdb to disconnect drive
$ camcontrol | grep stop camcontrol stop [dev_id] [generic args] Works for me. There's also a 'start' command. I'm blind as a bat (no offense to any bats out there). I have no idea how I missed that. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make.conf syntax question (MODULES_OERRRIDE)
On Feb 4 at 12:55, Lowell Gilbert launched this into the bitstream: Colin J. Raven [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm considering *not* loading unecessary modules in a new kernel, so I need to ask what seems like some dumb questions. In the kernel config file (MYKERNEL in this case) does commenting out stuff there stop some modules from loading? So for example if I comment out SCSI support are the relevant modules for that built, or not built when compiling the new kernel? It seems that the logical answer is they're not built if you comment them out yet I have no way of knowing if that instinct call is right or not. By default, all of the modules are built whether you use them or not. That has nothing to do with the kernel config file; if you compile an option directly into the kernel, you don't need to load a module in order to use that functionality. The second question concerns the make.conf MODULES_OVERRIDE option syntax. Is the syntax: Don't bother with that option at all; your belief that you need it is based on your incorrect understanding of what modules (as opposed to kernel definitions) do. Other than a little bit extra build time, there's rarely any reason for an ordinary user to *not* build all of the modules every time. Thank you! Undoubtedly you have saved me a considerable amount of time and apparently unecessary work. What I was (erroneously) trying to do was trim down the kernel to its absolute minimum size and maximum performance, my thought was if I don't need it, don't load it. I guess the logical question follows thoughwhy build all those modules (500 and something if I recall correctly) if they're unused and not necessary? It seems counter intuitive somehow, but probably I'm not seeing the issue in its proper light. Many thanks for your advice and guidance. Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Fri Feb 4 19:18:00 CET 2005 7:18PM up 15 days, 8:08, 6 users, load averages: 0.03, 0.01, 0.00 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Out of the frying pan...
John wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:35:49PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it pauses with like 12 out of 19 image loaded, and sometimes it pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to the server. VERY odd. Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm not entirely Thanks for your response, Joshua! Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in your /etc/resolv.conf, like this: nameserver 888.888.888.888 (the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your internal one, if you've set it up) Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if Konqueror is the problem. Opera does not have this problem. It appears to be unique to Konqueror. Odd - but I was going to shop around for a different browser, anyway. Month late, kilodollars short. Probably I'm just griping, but some food for thought: Oh, the cruft that gets put on the WWW these daze. ActiveX, Java applets, Flash, bla bla ... unless you're sure that you were only looking at sites displaying *relatively compliant* (X)HTML, you can't trust just any site to work on just any browser without a lot of often hair-raising work in browser configuration and installation of plugins. There's a whole bunch of $PLURAL_ADJECTIVE_NOUN out there who don't know about standards and don't care, and they are quite responsible for a number of my griefs with browsers on FreeBSD. The other day I followed a link that led to some site with an Any Da _ _ Browser logo. Loved the thought, and we should all do that --- there are standards. But, of course, I can't use that graphic on most of my sites Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Expected too much?
I downloaded and installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a computer. I go past the login and password stage. Can I go to a full graphics mode? How? Gustavo A. Cevallos AQUAS Inc. 5480 Wisconsin Av. Suite 210 Chevy Chase, MD 20815 Telf. 301 654 4000 Fax. 301 654 4004 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Font in linux-base 8
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 09:36:42PM +0900, Nguyen Le Hinh wrote: Does anyone have problem with font in linux-base?At the moment i am using linux-realplayer 10 ,linux-firefox 1.0 and somehow the font isn't displayed cleanly like softwares that use the native fonts of FreeBSD,it seems to be not anti-aliased ,i think?I have tried to symlink even copy all the files in folder /usr/X11R6/etc/fonts to /usr/compat/linux/etc/fonts but it seems not to work ?Does anyone know how to solve it? Make sure you have the latest version of all linux* ports, some bugs were fixed recently. If the problem continues, ask on freebsd-emulation@ Kris pgpio7K2gLfP5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD 3.2
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: [ ... ] Seriously - from a legal perspective you have absolutely no obligation to follow their restrictions unless of course they were smart enough to have you sign a piece of paper before they let you in the door. No contractual relationship exists between you and them now, you can ignore what they tell you to do with impunity as long as you don't break any civil laws, ie: theft, malicious mischief, etc. All they can do is tell you your not welcome in the door anymore. Ted, it's better to give no advice than bad advice. This is especially true when the issue is a legal matter, and you are not a lawyer. See 18 USC 1030: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_1030000-.html It would be a remarkably bad idea to reformat and reinstall the OS on a US-government-owned computer without getting written permission first. And yes, even a computer owned by your local school counts... -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Expected too much?
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:31:58PM -0500, Gustavo Cevallos wrote: I downloaded and installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a computer. I go past the login and password stage. Can I go to a full graphics mode? How? You probably want to read the FreeBSD Handbook available on the website. It covers such basic questions as these, and a lot more. Kris pgpEwKgdrUcBl.pgp Description: PGP signature
dmesg.boot - strange content...
Hi all, One of my servers running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE has the following in its dmesg.boot file: _max R *Handler Int 6 coll_weights_max R *Handler Int 7 expr_nest_max R *Handler Int 8 line_max R *Handler Int 9 re_dup_max R *Handler Int 10 posix2_version R *Handler Int 11 posix2_c_bind R *Handler Int 12 posix2_c_dev R *Handler Int 13 posix2_char_term R *Handler Int 14 posix2_fort_dev R *Handler Int 15 posix2_fort_run R *Handler Int 16 posix2_localedef R *Handler Int 17 posix2_sw_dev R *Handler Int 18 posix2_upe R *Handler Int 19 stream_max R *Handler Int 20 tzname_max R *Handler Int . . . . Now, this I have never seen before, I'm more used to output like this: Copyright (c) 1992-2004 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #0: Fri Nov 5 04:19:18 UTC 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0 . . . Does anybody know what is wrong on my 5.2.1 box? I cannot for the life of me figure what is going on... Cheers, -Morten -- --- WEB-fx http://www.webfx.no Morten Lerskau Rønseth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Odinsvei 15c +47 6680 9191 1413 Tårnåsen+47 9343 4357 Norway ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Possibly OT: ports question/suggestion
Maybe this is not the best place for this (I'm not really sure) but would there be a way to setup the ports tree so that when a particular package is deinstalled that it's dependancies would be deinstalled if they were only installed becasue of the port in the first place. For example Package X depends on Packages A,B, and C. Package A was installed because you needed it for whatever reason but B and C were not. So I install Package X ( and consequently B and C) and when I decide to get rid of Package X for whatever reason it automagically knows that B and C were installed due to dependancies and would check if they were needed by other ports/packages and if not interactively go through and deinstall them. Interactively would be that it would prompt the user prior to deinstallation. Would you like to remove Package B, since it was installed as a dependancy? [y/N]?, etc. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Newbie Help: IP firewall configuration
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 09:32:31AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # Allow out access to my ISP's DHCP server for cable or DSL networks. # This rule is not needed for 'user ppp' type connection to the # public Internet, so you can delete this whole group. # Use the following rule and check log for IP address. # Then put IP address in commented out rule delete first rule pass out log quick on dc0 proto udp from any to any port = 67 keep state #pass out quick on dc0 proto udp from any to z.z.z.z port = 67 keep state Please help. How do I find the IP address referenced in the fourth #? That will be the IP address of your ISP's DHCP server. They may well have givenyou some documentation, or put that information on a website, or failing that, you could just call their help line and ask. Where is the log file that is referenced in the fourth #? If I need to use find, whereis, locate, or some other command line search tool to find the log file, please write out the details for me, because I am really struggling with command line syntax at this point. I have clearly suffered from too much exposure to the point and click world. The log file you need is /var/log/auth.log -- that's where anything security related generally gets logged. Almost everything in the base systeem and many of the ports which write data into logfiles will keep those logfiles under /var/log. Makes them much easier to find... Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgpbRtMoDs0De.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Expected too much?
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:31:58 -0500 Gustavo Cevallos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded and installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a computer. I go past the login and password stage. Can I go to a full graphics mode? How? Gustavo A. Cevallos AQUAS Inc. 5480 Wisconsin Av. Suite 210 Chevy Chase, MD 20815 Telf. 301 654 4000 Fax. 301 654 4004 Hello, That's easy,install only windowmaker from the post-configuration screen (apps section) . Launch a terminal,like dos prompt,su to root,and enter touch .xinitrc , while you are there you might type touch .xsession as well. after that edit the file: /etc/tty's ,you only have to change off in on on line 8 (tty8...) Effect is you get a ugly xdm login screen after reboot and you have at least something to read the online Handbook with at www.freebsd.org,for a fair start and further configuration examples. Have fun,don't forget nothing is what it seems :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An AWK question
--- FBSD-4.10p2
I have a script that tells me when a mailbox exceeds 2MB. Using it for
another purpose. how can I modify this script to tell me when a file is
LESS than a certain size?
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#!/bin/sh
#AWK=/usr/bin/awk
#FILE=/file/size/to/check
#LS=/bin/ls
#SIZE=2048 # (2048 = 2MB)
#if [ `${LS} -s ${FILE} | ${AWK} '{ print $1 }'` -gt ${SIZE} ]; then
#echo File ${FILE} is ABOVE normal | mail -s Alert: Check the file
#fi
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Thanks, and
Best regards,
Jack L. Stone
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Re: can't build jail in 5.3-RELEASE-p5
On Feb 4, 2005, at 8:33 AM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote: When 5.3-RELEASE first became available in November, there was a problem building a jail (% make world DESTDIR=). That problem was fixed in -STABLE and I had hoped that fix would make its way into the -RELEASE errata/bug-fix stream as well. I had a -STABLE system from early November where this was fixed (but early enough that there were barely any changes from -RELEASE), and updated to -RELEASE-p5 last night using cvsup. I tried to build a jail and I get an error early on. However, the error is much earlier than with the older bug and I am not sure if they are related. I can do a make buildworld for the system but as soon as I add a DESTDIR= to it it fails. I solved this for me, but don't know if others have a problem and need to get this fixed in the source tree. (I have also not tried to run the jail yet) I did a cvsup of stable into a different directory structure, copied the main Makefile and Makefile.inc1 from the root of the source tree over to my release source tree and then tried the build. That worked. I did a diff on the Makefiles but there are lots of other changes besides this so I do not know which part exactly was the cause. For someone familiar with the make system, it would be nice to get the fixes into the -RELEASE source errata branch as well so that people who track -RELEASE won't have this problem. Thanks Chad Here is the complete log of what is happening (where D = /local/jails/m which was created with mkdir -p $D -- line by line following man jail instructions) host# make world DESTDIR=$D -- make world started on Fri Feb 4 01:32:28 MST 2005 -- -- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- rm -rf /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/c++/3.3 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/include/sys mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/dict mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX100-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devX75-12 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devascii mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devcp1047 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devdvi mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devhtml mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devkoi8-r mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlatin1 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlbp mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devlj4 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devps mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/groff_font/devutf8 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mdoc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/share/tmac/mm mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/lib mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/compat/aout mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libdata/ldscripts mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/libexec mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/misc mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/defs mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/share/snmp/mibs mtree -deU -f /usr/src/etc/mtree/BSD.include.dist -p /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /dev/null ln -sf /usr/src/sys /usr/obj/usr/src/i386 -- stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 DESTDIR= INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/ legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/ sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386 MAKEFLAGS=-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk DESTDIR=/local/jails/m -m /usr/src/share/mk make -f Makefile.inc1 BOOTSTRAPPING=503001 -DNOHTML -DNOINFO -DNOLINT -DNOMAN -DNOPIC -DNOPROFILE -DNOSHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS legacy === tools/build /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/tools/build created for /usr/src/tools/build cd /usr/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a
stack size limits
I'm trying to adjust the stack size limit on my computer. I'm not exactly sure what to do. Here's what I've tried: ulimit -s (size)in bash unlimit stacksize unlimited in csh options MAXSSIZE=(size) in /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/KERNELNAME; make buildkernel make installkernel stacksize=infinity in /etc/login.conf; cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf kern.stacksize=(size) in /etc/sysctl.conf but despite all these efforts, doing ulimit -a still seems to show the default 64M limit. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I should have done/should do to increase the size users are allowed to have? Thanks in advance Isaac Yonemoto The Scripps Research Institute ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An AWK question
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 01:14:57PM -0600, antenneX wrote:
--- FBSD-4.10p2
I have a script that tells me when a mailbox exceeds 2MB. Using it for
another purpose. how can I modify this script to tell me when a file is
LESS than a certain size?
-
#!/bin/sh
#AWK=/usr/bin/awk
#FILE=/file/size/to/check
#LS=/bin/ls
#SIZE=2048 # (2048 = 2MB)
#if [ `${LS} -s ${FILE} | ${AWK} '{ print $1 }'` -gt ${SIZE} ]; then
#echo File ${FILE} is ABOVE normal | mail -s Alert: Check the file
#fi
-
Just change the word -gt to -lt.
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Re: Possibly OT: ports question/suggestion
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 02:02:45PM -0500, Tom Moyer wrote: Maybe this is not the best place for this (I'm not really sure) but would there be a way to setup the ports tree so that when a particular package is deinstalled that it's dependancies would be deinstalled if they were only installed becasue of the port in the first place. I believe pkg_deinstall -R will behave in the manner you describe. Would you like to remove Package B, since it was installed as a dependancy? [y/N]?, etc. pkg_deinstall will not prompt you, however. -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD Handbook typo?
First off I have to say this is my first time ever using any kind of mailing list. I'm not even really sure if this is where I should post this. In the FreeBSD Handbook, page 24.5 The IPFILTER (IPF) Firewall, section 24.5.19.1 Assigning Ports to Use, I believe there is a typo. It gives an example map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 - 0.32 and I think it should say map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 - 0/32 notice the 0/32. It is repeated several times. I noticed this when I kept having problems with it. It gave me an error about the netmask. Just thought I'd try and let you all know, hope this helps. Thanks. Eric ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
favor
Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Valerie Andrewlevich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Expected too much?
Gustavo Cevallos wrote: I downloaded and installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a computer. I go past the login and password stage. Can I go to a full graphics mode? How? Gustavo A. Cevallos AQUAS Inc. 5480 Wisconsin Av. Suite 210 Chevy Chase, MD 20815 Telf. 301 654 4000 Fax. 301 654 4004 Install a graphical user interface (GUI). FreeBSD is great in that it gives you a *choice* (something they don't believe in the Pacific NW, apparently) of many different GUI environments, and you can actually do a lot of work without one (try that in command.com on a stock installation). As Kris stated, the Handbook is your friend. I think my build of the Handbook is fairly recent; in it the chapter on windowing systems is Chapter 5, but it states that knowledge of Chapter 4 is a pre-requisite. Good luck and welcome to FreeBSD, and tools, not policy! Feel free to write back with your questions about GUI configuration (there might be some) Kevin Kinsey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An AWK question
On Friday 04 February 2005 02:14 pm, antenneX wrote:
--- FBSD-4.10p2
I have a script that tells me when a mailbox exceeds 2MB. Using it for
another purpose. how can I modify this script to tell me when a file is
LESS than a certain size?
-
#!/bin/sh
#AWK=/usr/bin/awk
#FILE=/file/size/to/check
#LS=/bin/ls
#SIZE=2048 # (2048 = 2MB)
#if [ `${LS} -s ${FILE} | ${AWK} '{ print $1 }'` -gt ${SIZE} ]; then
#echo File ${FILE} is ABOVE normal | mail -s Alert: Check the file
#fi
-
Thanks, and
Best regards,
Jack L. Stone
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Jonathen's correct. It's not an awk question. It's actually being evaluated by
test. see man test )test is also invoked when you see [ some equation ] (you
need the space at least on the inside of [ and ], perhaps on the outsides
too.
#if [ `${LS} -s ${FILE} | ${AWK} '{ print $1 }'` -lt ${SIZE} ]; then
#echo File ${FILE} is BELOW normal | mail -s Alert: Check the file
#fi
awk is just being used to get the first field from ls -s, which is the size...
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Re: qmail - smtp - can NOT send mail out
james doucette wrote: # qmailctl stat /service/qmail-send: up (pid 131) 187 seconds /service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 137) 187 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 33965) 0 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 138) 187 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d: up (pid 136) 187 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d/log: up (pid 140) 187 seconds messages in queue: 3814 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 3 Ok, i cant seem to make the smtpd get up over 1 second. I have an smtp listening to port 25. I took it out of the /etc/services and made it a #... This messed up all mail. So i switched it back. Mail works again, but why cant i get smtpd to work right? I tried to free up port 25 several different ways and nothing worked. I imagine that both of these issues are connected... any help is appreciated. run /service/qmail-smtpd/run and see what happens. Make sure that it's set to run in the forground. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Regrettably, there is no reliable or convenient way to remove old postings from a public mailing list. Part of the issue is that you're asking to remove not just your postings, but postings made by other people in response to the questions you asked in that thread. Even if the FreeBSD postmaster (acting as list manager) did so and rebuilt the Mailman thread archives manually, Google and other sites which cache Usenet and public list traffic to their archives generally retain information about old postings anyway. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
qmail - smtp - can NOT send mail out
OK, i have 1 guy that cant get his mail. He can only send recivie to his own address. everyone else has email, and it works. ...usually. How do i find out where this users config got messed up. How do i begin to fix his mail? on another note: qmailctl stat: # qmailctl stat /service/qmail-send: up (pid 131) 187 seconds /service/qmail-send/log: up (pid 137) 187 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd: up (pid 33965) 0 seconds /service/qmail-smtpd/log: up (pid 138) 187 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d: up (pid 136) 187 seconds /service/qmail-pop3d/log: up (pid 140) 187 seconds messages in queue: 3814 messages in queue but not yet preprocessed: 3 Ok, i cant seem to make the smtpd get up over 1 second. I have an smtp listening to port 25. I took it out of the /etc/services and made it a #... This messed up all mail. So i switched it back. Mail works again, but why cant i get smtpd to work right? I tried to free up port 25 several different ways and nothing worked. I imagine that both of these issues are connected... any help is appreciated. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Expected too much?
Gustavo Cevallos wrote: I downloaded and installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a computer. I go past the login and password stage. Can I go to a full graphics mode? How? Ok, everyone refers to the Handbook, which is _the_ place to look for info. But, once you start up your system and login as root, you can get back to the installation menu running the command # /stand/sysinstall and do any post installation that you forgot, including the installation of additional packages. This is the newbie way of getting up and running You want to look for Xorg or XFree86, Xorg is the default. From the sysinstall you also get to configure X. Note, in *nix, X provides the basic graphical support, on top of that you want to choose a windows manager. KDE and Gnome are popular, but quite heavy (and bloated if you ask me). After configuring X you will choose which windows manager to install. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mplayer vs xine
So who do you like the most and why ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer vs xine
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:32:06 +0100 Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who do you like the most and why ? I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui. Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc. and I use the gui for watching videos and such. Xine won't do the stream conversion that mplayer can, from what I have seen. And I prefer the layout of the controls on Xine better than Mplayer. Just my $0.02. YMMV. HTH, Jacob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tinderbox ?
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Re: tinderbox ?
A tinderbox is a server dedicated to compiling (or burning) the latest edition of software into binaries, usually for an operating system. Isaac ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: An AWK question
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From: Steven Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; antenneX [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: An AWK question
On Friday 04 February 2005 02:14 pm, antenneX wrote:
--- FBSD-4.10p2
I have a script that tells me when a mailbox exceeds 2MB. Using it
for
another purpose. how can I modify this script to tell me when a file
is
LESS than a certain size?
-
#!/bin/sh
#AWK=/usr/bin/awk
#FILE=/file/size/to/check
#LS=/bin/ls
#SIZE=2048 # (2048 = 2MB)
#if [ `${LS} -s ${FILE} | ${AWK} '{ print $1 }'` -gt ${SIZE} ]; then
#echo File ${FILE} is ABOVE normal | mail -s Alert: Check the
file
#fi
-
Thanks, and
Best regards,
Jack L. Stone
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Jonathen's correct. It's not an awk question. It's actually being
evaluated by
test. see man test )test is also invoked when you see [ some
equation ] (you
need the space at least on the inside of [ and ], perhaps on the
outsides
too.
#if [ `${LS} -s ${FILE} | ${AWK} '{ print $1 }'` -lt ${SIZE} ]; then
#echo File ${FILE} is BELOW normal | mail -s Alert: Check the
file
#fi
awk is just being used to get the first field from ls -s, which is the
size...
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No wonder I couldn't make sense out of it looking only in man GAWK(1).
Now, it's very simple -- thanks a lot!
Jack
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Re: favor
Chuck Swiger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Regrettably, there is no reliable or convenient way to remove old postings from a public mailing list. Part of the issue is that you're asking to remove not just your postings, but postings made by other people in response to the questions you asked in that thread. Even if the FreeBSD postmaster (acting as list manager) did so and rebuilt the Mailman thread archives manually, Google and other sites which cache Usenet and public list traffic to their archives generally retain information about old postings anyway. Google does offer a way to remove posts that you have made from its index: http://www.google.co.uk/googlegroups/help.html#9 IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tinderbox ?
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:46:48 -0800, Isaac Yonemoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A tinderbox is a server dedicated to compiling (or burning) the latest edition of software into binaries, usually for an operating system. Isaac ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Does the tinderbox test the current updates before they get released for cvsupdating or does it just say , haha you are screwed ? Also why name it tinderbox ? xbox sounds cooler :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tinderbox ?
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:50:13 -0800, darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quoth the Gert Cuykens: what is a tinderbox ? The third result of a http://www.google.com/bsd search for 'tinderbox' is the Tinderbox FAQ, of which the first question is What is Tinderbox... -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 Is this something new from google? http://www.google.com/bsd ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tinderbox ?
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Isaac Yonemoto wrote: A tinderbox is a server dedicated to compiling (or burning) the latest edition of software into binaries, usually for an operating system. I think it fair to say that in it's most useful form, a 'tinderbox' would be set up to build the latest code of a product or project (often continuously), and also running as many tests on the results as practical. In my experiences implementing one, I never achieved the second goal. The idea behind a 'tinderbox' is, I believe, almost universally to identify regressions of one sort or another as efficiently as possible (from a man-power perspective), and in as timely a manner as possible. Thanks, - Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
Chris Hodgins wrote: IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? Could it be a legal requirement that you can prove that you are actually the original poster and as the auther has (if any) the right to request the data removed? DNA test? When I search for my name, I'm in competition with a wrestler - really anoying, in particular because his last results are from 2003, can I have him removed? of course not, nor would I try to. If you feel the first matches refer to irrelevant old posts, try posting something new and more interesting :-) get referals to your new cool web page, update it regularly, etc... I have now had the luck to wrestle my oponent to the next page - ha, all first 10 matches are mine :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer vs xine
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:44:04 -0600, Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:32:06 +0100 Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who do you like the most and why ? I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui. Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc. and I use the gui for watching videos and such. Xine won't do the stream conversion that mplayer can, from what I have seen. And I prefer the layout of the controls on Xine better than Mplayer. Just my $0.02. YMMV. HTH, Jacob Is there not a mplayer fork for a better gui ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: favor
If Google can do it, I'm sure FreeBSD can figure out how to do it. Google calls it nuking a post. Any nukers with know-how out there? From: Chris Hodgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/02/04 Fri PM 04:58:00 EST To: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: favor Chuck Swiger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Regrettably, there is no reliable or convenient way to remove old postings from a public mailing list. Part of the issue is that you're asking to remove not just your postings, but postings made by other people in response to the questions you asked in that thread. Even if the FreeBSD postmaster (acting as list manager) did so and rebuilt the Mailman thread archives manually, Google and other sites which cache Usenet and public list traffic to their archives generally retain information about old postings anyway. Google does offer a way to remove posts that you have made from its index: http://www.google.co.uk/googlegroups/help.html#9 IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
Erik Norgaard wrote: Chris Hodgins wrote: IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? Could it be a legal requirement that you can prove that you are actually the original poster and as the auther has (if any) the right to request the data removed? DNA test? Google only requests that you use the same email address to have it removed. I think this is reasonable. You can actually get it removed without using the email address but I think that is a little harder. When I search for my name, I'm in competition with a wrestler - really anoying, in particular because his last results are from 2003, can I have him removed? of course not, nor would I try to. No. You could however request that your own pages/articles are removed as you would be the legal copyright holder for those.I think. ;) If you feel the first matches refer to irrelevant old posts, try posting something new and more interesting :-) get referals to your new cool web page, update it regularly, etc... I have now had the luck to wrestle my oponent to the next page - ha, all first 10 matches are mine :-) I think the point the OP was trying to make is that he would not like those posts to appear at all. :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD Handbook typo?
On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:02:25 + [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the FreeBSD Handbook, page 24.5 The IPFILTER (IPF) Firewall, section 24.5.19.1 Assigning Ports to Use, I believe there is a typo. It gives an example map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 - 0.32 and I think it should say map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 - 0/32 notice the 0/32. It is repeated several times. I noticed this when I kept having problems with it. It gave me an error about the netmask. Just thought I'd try and let you all know, hope this helps. I don't think this mailinglist is the right place, but you're absolutely right. The example in the handbook is wrong. The rule should be: map dc0 192.168.1.0/24 and the hand book states 192.168.1.0/29 This is absolutely wrong! I corrected your message. You forgor the xx/29 ;-) -- dick -- http://nagual.st/ -- PGP/GnuPG key: F86289CE ++ Running FreeBSD 4.11 ++ FreeBSD 5.3 + Nai tiruvantel ar vayuvantel i Valar tielyanna nu vilja ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: favor
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 17:08:51 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Google can do it, I'm sure FreeBSD can figure out how to do it. Google calls it nuking a post. Any nukers with know-how out there? From: Chris Hodgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/02/04 Fri PM 04:58:00 EST To: Chuck Swiger [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: favor Chuck Swiger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Regrettably, there is no reliable or convenient way to remove old postings from a public mailing list. Part of the issue is that you're asking to remove not just your postings, but postings made by other people in response to the questions you asked in that thread. Even if the FreeBSD postmaster (acting as list manager) did so and rebuilt the Mailman thread archives manually, Google and other sites which cache Usenet and public list traffic to their archives generally retain information about old postings anyway. Google does offer a way to remove posts that you have made from its index: http://www.google.co.uk/googlegroups/help.html#9 IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? Chris Dont worry about it britney spears will always have more search hits then you :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Google can do it, I'm sure FreeBSD can figure out how to do it. Google calls it nuking a post. Any nukers with know-how out there? No, google keeps a mirror of the list, there are numerous independent mirrors that are beyond control of FreeBSD.org, and you'll have the countless number of other seach engines to deal with also. Also, keep in mind, that now you've posted to the list, you might find your old posts replaced by this thread in the top of the index :-) Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mplayer vs xine
On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 23:08:02 +0100 Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:44:04 -0600, Jacob S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 22:32:06 +0100 Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So who do you like the most and why ? I like mplayer for cli stuff and xine for gui. Mainly because the cli stuff I do is downloading and converting streams from wma/rm to wav/ogg/mp3, etc. and I use the gui for watching videos and such. Xine won't do the stream conversion that mplayer can, from what I have seen. And I prefer the layout of the controls on Xine better than Mplayer. Is there not a mplayer fork for a better gui ? Sorry, I think you misunderstood me. Mplayer already has a nice gui, I just prefer the layout of xine better. But you don't have to take my word for it - install both of them and see how you like them. HTH, Jacob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
Chris Hodgins wrote: Google only requests that you use the same email address to have it removed. I think this is reasonable. You can actually get it removed without using the email address but I think that is a little harder. or forge the email? If you feel the first matches refer to irrelevant old posts, try posting something new and more interesting :-) get referals to your new cool web page, update it regularly, etc... I have now had the luck to wrestle my oponent to the next page - ha, all first 10 matches are mine :-) I think the point the OP was trying to make is that he would not like those posts to appear at all. :) Dunno. I did the search, and as far as I can see the anoying point is that the first four matches refers to the posts on the list, the 5th refers to valerie on momsandkids.org - I see the point that you want your own page to appear first. After all, if someone (friendly of course) searches for your name, you'd like them to find you right? Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: tinderbox ?
quoth the Gert Cuykens: On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:50:13 -0800, darren kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: quoth the Gert Cuykens: what is a tinderbox ? The third result of a http://www.google.com/bsd search for 'tinderbox' is the Tinderbox FAQ, of which the first question is What is Tinderbox... -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 Is this something new from google? http://www.google.com/bsd Sorry, meant to send that last one to the list. Not sure how old google.com/bsd is. At least a year I'd say... -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org ...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected... - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 pgpraMmiMsgd2.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: favor
Chris Hodgins wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: [ ... ] Google does offer a way to remove posts that you have made from its index: http://www.google.co.uk/googlegroups/help.html#9 Notice the part which says: Messages posted by other people By its very nature, Usenet consists of information posted by many people. Google does not monitor or control the content of this information. Instead, we simply provide access to the public forum in which people post their comments. Accordingly, if you are concerned about a message that someone has posted, you need to resolve that problem directly with the person who posted it. Except in extreme circumstances, Google will not act upon an individual's request to remove another person's messages. We firmly believe it is not Google's role to resolve disputes among the users who have posted millions of messages on Usenet, nor would it be possible to fulfill that role if we chose to undertake it. IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? The situation is analogous to writing a letter to a newspaper, having it printed in the op/ed section, and then you asking your local library to discard the entire editoral section for that day. Even if the library were to agree, there were thousands of other copies made and the neighboring towns very probably have copies of that day's paper in their library archives, as well, so what's the point? A newspaper doesn't have any legal obligation to hunt down and remove all of the copies of their paper which contain the letter you wrote. Likewise, if you don't want your name to appear in the archive of a public forum, don't send content to a public forum. -- -Chuck ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sendmail relay through ssh tunnel?
Hello, Is it possible to setup sendmail to relay all smtp mail through an ssh tunnel? I am in a network that restricts all outgoing mail traffic to single exchange server host, so everyone has to use the exchange server to send emails. On a windows computer I can setup the ssh tunnel and then point my email client to localhost, but, if at all possible, I would like to setup freebsd box as an smpt server that other hosts can use. Any pointers will be greatly appreciated. federico ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: favor
Chuck Swiger wrote: Chris Hodgins wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: [ ... ] Google does offer a way to remove posts that you have made from its index: http://www.google.co.uk/googlegroups/help.html#9 Notice the part which says: Messages posted by other people By its very nature, Usenet consists of information posted by many people. Google does not monitor or control the content of this information. Instead, we simply provide access to the public forum in which people post their comments. Accordingly, if you are concerned about a message that someone has posted, you need to resolve that problem directly with the person who posted it. Except in extreme circumstances, Google will not act upon an individual's request to remove another person's messages. We firmly believe it is not Google's role to resolve disputes among the users who have posted millions of messages on Usenet, nor would it be possible to fulfill that role if we chose to undertake it. IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? The situation is analogous to writing a letter to a newspaper, having it printed in the op/ed section, and then you asking your local library to discard the entire editoral section for that day. Even if the library were to agree, there were thousands of other copies made and the neighboring towns very probably have copies of that day's paper in their library archives, as well, so what's the point? A newspaper doesn't have any legal obligation to hunt down and remove all of the copies of their paper which contain the letter you wrote. Likewise, if you don't want your name to appear in the archive of a public forum, don't send content to a public forum. I like your analogy, I think that sums it up nicely. :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Routing Problem
Gustafson, Tim wrote: I know it can be done. I have a feeling that the FreeBSD TCP stack lacks the capability. If you are looking for multiple routes to the same destination, you are correct. I believe that if you see the thread on net@ from 03/01/04 with the subject My planned work on networking stack: quote [] move IPv4 routing to its own optimized routing table structure and add multi-path and policy-routing options. (planned) /quote I think this is the feature you are looking for: multi-path I am also not sure of the status of this. There are some hackish ways of dealing with this: eg. route add 0.0.0.0/1 router1 route add 128.0.0.0/1 router2 (or some such hideous incantation) If you want to get real nasty, I would try some jiggery pokery with vlans/ng_one2many: # receiving is done with public ips (all the same here as your current config) router1 vlan0 pubip1 router2 vlan0 pubip2 server vlan0 pubip1/2 #transmitting is done through faked gateway 50% load each router1 vlan1 10.0.0.1 router2 vlan2 10.0.0.1 server vlan1/2 10.0.0.2 route add default 10.0.0.1 You'll need to be sure that both upstream providers will route either ip address though. Also, there is no dynamic type of functionallity on this, if one of the links goes down, you'll lose 50% of your traffic. You could probably rig up a script to notify netgraph when the remote g/w goes down though. I've never tried this, but it seems this wouldn't be a bad way to start if you've got some time on your hands. Cheers, Derek ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
5.3 and SMP(HTT)
I have an IBM 305 server with a P4-3.06 with HTT. I have 3 settings in the bios and I was wondering about a recommendation. (there is only 1 CPU in this machine and NO way to add another) but I do want to get any benefit from HTT - presuming a benefit actually exists. single processor MP table - Enabled/Disabled MP Table version - 1.1/1/4 Hyperthreading - Enabled/Disabled (I set that to ENABLED of course) The BIOS claims better performance with the 1st one DISABLED. Any comments will be appreciated! thanks- -- J.D. Bronson Aurora Health Care // Information Services // Milwaukee, WI USA Office: 414.978.8282 // Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Pager: 414.314.8282 Reach me at AIM:lonebanditusa // ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Expected too much?
Gustavo Cevallos writes: GC I downloaded and installed FreeBSD 5.3 on a computer. I go past the login GC and password stage. Can I go to a full graphics mode? How? UNIX doesn't have a full-graphics mode, although you can install and enable software that runs under UNIX and provides a graphic user interface similar to that of Windows or the Mac. First, however, it might be profitable to go into full library mode and read a book about UNIX. Most operating systems, UNIX included, do not have graphic user interfaces as their native interaction modes. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
/usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer
fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/mplayer/Abyss-1.1.tar.bz2: size mismatch: expected 314296, actual 314264 = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/mplayer and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer-skins. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer. I# ok i am stuck here how can i display the configure screen again so i can choise other skins ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer
Gert Cuykens wrote: fetch: ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/mplayer/Abyss-1.1.tar.bz2: size mismatch: expected 314296, actual 314264 = Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this = port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/mplayer and try again. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer-skins. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/multimedia/mplayer. I# ok i am stuck here how can i display the configure screen again so i can choise other skins ? There's a problem with all/most skins size mismatch in this port; I complained already, to no avail. Don't know why noone wants to fix this. You can skip the checksum/size tests by setting setenv NO_CHECKSUM yes (see man ports) and then try installing mplayer again. Rob. __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
