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On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 09:04:28PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
> Quoth Chad Perrin on Saturday, 27 August 2011:
> >
> > I've decided to provide the "professional" response "Evan" claims to
> > crave:
> >
> > Dear Evan,
> >
>
straw that broke the camel's back"?
Your assessment of the nature of the survey itself is pretty accurate,
though.
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opment practices in general. There are
other things about GNOME that should be fixed long before they take the
drastic step of trying to make up for those problems (rather than fixing
them) by throwing away stuff that works.
It strikes me as a case of poor decision making similar, in principle
e publisher for "pfSense: The Definitive Guide",
which I chose based on the fact it was the first pfSense book on that
page. It's not the publisher for any other pfSense books such as the
pfSense 2 Cookbook.
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be as "cheap and direct" a translation as you
describe it, either.
I'm not saying Common Lisp would be a bad choice for translation of a
Python program to a language that compiles to a binary executable, but
your description of the language does not strike me as accurate.
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On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 06:55:05PM -0500, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> On Sep 16, 2011, at 17:27, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 02:14:42PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote:
> >>
> >> Also many smartphone and tablet mailers automatically top-post, and make
&
not as real security against a more sophisticated
attack. It's nice to have cleaner logging sometimes -- which is the real
benefit of such techniques, rather than security per se.
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well.
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security measure, it's "something other than security through obscurity",
and you shouldn't beat yourself up over it.
If you have no specific need to keep SSH on 22, definitely move a
public-facing SSH server to a nonstandard port, for re
ie 'doorknob rattlers' -- doing so
> *is* perfectly reasonable.
>
> *I* do it on _my_ machines, expressly for the reason stated in the prior
> paragraph.
I should have finished reading the thread before sending my own reply on
a different branch of the discussion. This is (stated
t; should not worry about the issue, right?
I think it means he found the wordplay humorous.
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and MPAA). The more you
repeat these abuses of terminology, the more they are emboldened; I think
it was the RIAA representative at the SOPA hearing yesterday who
literally equated copyright infringement with *murder*.
Don't be like that jackass.
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On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:56:06PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 10:17:50 -0700
> Chad Perrin articulated:
>
> > Copyright infringement is copyright infringement -- and not theft --
> > no matter how hyperbolic your choice of phrasing. Castigate people
> &
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 12:41:51PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> Oh, of course -- "pirated", like the hundreds of CDs and audiocasettes
> and DVDs I have, though I've stopped consuming new music in any form from
> corporations that sue their own customers.
clarifica
On Sun, Dec 11, 2011 at 05:32:00AM -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> On Dec 10, 2011, at 12:30 AM, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Fri, 9 Dec 2011 13:05:05 -0600, Ryan Coleman wrote:
> >>
> >> So, wait, Firefox is Malware? Did you notice that with FF4
> >> they changed it so that you didn't get prompted on la
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 09:23:22AM +1030, William Brown wrote:
> On 22/12/2011, at 20:06, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> >
> > svn vs git vs mercurial
> >
> > svn has the model of a central repository that everything has to
> > communicate with. This can be attractive in a commercial environment as
> >
also (via CSS) insert newlines
before and after code samples within code tags. Please remember to take
this into account when reading the article, so that it will make more
sense as presented on that page. For all I know, the way TR's
stylesheets handle code formatting might all change agai
shing what other OSs had already
> done 3 or more years earlier and rather attempted to bring the OS on
> par with those competing OSs.
What do you define with your "hanging around sniping at people and
sabotaging discussions" attitude? In the years I have been on this list
On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 11:55:26PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> > On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
> > >
> > > If you want to verify, then by all means parouse this list and others
> &g
On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 08:31:14AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
> > On Sun, Jan 01, 2012 at 09:14:20AM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> > > On Sun, 01 Jan 2012 22:56:45 +1000 Da Rock articulated:
> > > >
> > > >
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 03:06:11AM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 12:33:20PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > Ubuntu, actually, has thrown out the baby with the bathwater. In its
> > zeal to make things "just work" in a particular manner,
you wish to use a term
differently than how it is understood, make sure you clarify that fact up
front. If others refuse to go along with it, find a different term to
use that can better convey the meaning you wish to convey.
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On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
> Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
> >
> > So . . . please start with the denotative meanings of words, consider
> > your audience, and use words accordingly. If you wish to use a term
> >
On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 05:59:54PM -0600, Jeffrey McFadden wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 12:33:20 -0700
> > Chad Perrin articulated:
> >
> > > > Now you have really peaked
>
> Piqued. Although it is misused here. Google it.
Why does it looke like you a
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:33:28PM +0100, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 09:55:04PM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 03, 2012 at 02:07:36PM -0800, Chip Camden wrote:
> > > Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 03 January 2012:
> > > >
hink he believes it is morally
justified, but that's a wild-ass speculation, and not enough to induce me
to expect *him* of all people to justify it.
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ar brand. ThinkPads, for
instance, are not prone to this design, and the first thing one does when
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eek. Beyond that, I don't
know what I may or may not dislike about it.
the stuff in the paragraph listing a bunch of browsers - I like all of
these less than any of the browsers I mentioned before this paragraph,
for a variety of reasons.
I hope that helps, in conjunction w
will cease trying to have any meaningful
discussion with you right now. As pointed out by a bystander, this
off-topicness has gone on long enough, and my most friendly overtures
have been met only with flames in any case.
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 12:34:52PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:00:12 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
> >
> > You just ignored the salient point of what Robert Bonomi said, in
> > favor of trivialities. If you prefer, pretend he said:
> >
> > H
a
while back, so I'm probably not qualified to comment on its current
state.
Did you mean to say "The keybinding is *not* quite as good . . ." or did
you mean it is, as you wrote it here?
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On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:16:15PM -0500, Jerry wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 13:13:55 -0700 Chad Perrin articulated:
> >
> > Why the heck did you ask for it, then?
>
> Fair enough, because in your post dated: On Sun, 1 Jan 2012 23:55:26
> -0700, you make this remark: I
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 09:54:46PM +, Peter Harrison wrote:
> On 4 Jan 2012, at 21:26, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> > Did you mean to say "The keybinding is *not* quite as good . . ." or did
> > you mean it is, as you wrote it here?
>
> Perils of ty
CD image) that can be used to deactivate the
hardware whitelisting somewhere out there on the Internet, as there is
for ThinkPads.
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hile back (three or four
years), but do not recall anything about it due to the fact I do not need
one. Good luck in your search.
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#x27;ll be watching
this thread.
>
> I am not sure if this kind of off topic could be of interested to
> the list so please feel free to answer me directly .
I think this is, in fact, on-topic for this list. It is a question
particular to FreeBSD, which is the point of the freebsd-que
> > First of all, it's called a directory, not a "folder". :-)
> >
>
> After all, it doesn't fold (for that you need a little Haskell or OCaml).
Hmm. That was direct.
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es that became permanent, as your statements seem
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To unsu
But then the new installer has to be at least equal in features,
> functionality,
> and overall quality.
. . . or provide the ability to select the old installer at boot time,
perhaps. Let's not turn this into a false dilemma; I don't see why we
can'
foisting
> premature software on the community when in-fact it does NOT replicate even a
> fraction of the abilities of sysinstall.
I also think it's worthwhile to give people the benefit of the doubt, at
least at first. Perhaps the rhetoric can be scaled back a little bit in
this case
e for me is make me feel just
slightly inconvenienced during installation, having to restart the
installation process more often when I made a misstep for instance. No
biggie, I guess. It's certainly not worth giving up being able to build
the whole base system with Clang instead of GCC
On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 03:43:13PM +, RW wrote:
>
> I was just wondering what would have happened if Apple hadn't backed
> clang/LLVM as BSD licensed projects. Was there a plan B (other than
> gcc 4.2.1) or did Apple save the *BSD world?
The backup plan was probably PCC.
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 05:09:52PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> On 01/22/12 17:02, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 03:43:13PM +, RW wrote:
> >>I was just wondering what would have happened if Apple hadn't backed
> >>clang/LLVM as BSD licensed projects
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 07:06:04PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> On 01/22/12 17:45, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> >A couple years ago, it looked like a race between PCC and TenDRA, but
> >Clang seemed to just come out of nowhere and steal all the attention.
> >All three of them
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 05:37:48AM -0700, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> There has been some talk of it being the GCC replacement for OpenBSD
> and maybe even NetBSD, though I seem to recall Theo de Raadt doesn't
> consider replacing GCC a very urgent requirement right now (which might
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 10:55:18PM +1000, Da Rock wrote:
> On 01/22/12 22:37, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> >PCC (Portable C Compiler), meanwhile, spent many years essentially unused
> >except in some of the dustier corners of Unix user communities before
> >being actively
em. If I'm not mistaken, everything else on that list
is not even open source software.
If you just want to know about C compilers, it's fun to read about all
this stuff. If you specifically want to know about options that might be
suitable for use as GCC-replacement in BSD Unix systems, th
r members of
major open source Unixy OS families. Four is probably a good number,
with a few less-central implementations floating around as well to
explore the fringes.
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with a legitimate need for
the functionality of sysinstall look like intolerant elitists by
association with you in the minds of those who don't understand their
needs, just because you seem to agree with them.
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oes not eliminate useful options and
flexibility. You seem unaware of this fact in the general case, for some
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You talk a lot about how easy it is to maintain a binary package system.
I would like you to convince me that it is easy, keeping in mind that it
should remain compatible with the ports system. I am willing to be
convinced.
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them. :-)
Don't forget compiling for multiple architectures. That adds more
options -- and, unlike some of those other options, compiling for
different architectures is often actually a mutually-exclusive option
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ion were the values would be different?
I don't have one handy, so I don't have any way to test this right now,
but I wonder if an AMD machine might give a different answer to one of
those than an Intel machine, given a 32-bit 386 instruction set processor
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> $4;}{a=$1;b=$2;c=$3}' \
I'm never comfortable calling something like that a "one-liner". If it
runs over 80 columns of width, that (to me) doesn't really qualify as a
one-liner.
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o I set fetchmail and sendmail to fetch
> such emails?
You might want to try out the mail/fdm port instead of fetchmail. I have
found fetchmail to be obtuse and cantankerous; I stopped using it a long
time ago.
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ot;, which is what
should be showing during DST in the Eastern (US) time zone. When it's
not DST, what should be showing in the Eastern time zone is "EST"
instead. From what you said, though, it seems you had set it to "EDT"
when it was not yet daylight saving time.
e web.
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cedent. As such, out of
the various OSes with which I am comfortable to some degree, I pretty
much get to choose whatever OS I want. Given my requirements for
software capabilities, FreeBSD is the obvious choice.
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t years ahead" of FreeBSD for "the ease of maintaining the
software on the machine"? I'm curious about what you mean.
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7;ll have to take your word for it
when it comes to creating ports.
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or ports without breaking normal
operation. If there's a tutorial out there that would explain how to do
something like this, I have not yet found it.
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directly with the base system without licensing issues, but it can
certainly be distributed and installed when appropriate. It is, in fact,
for this reason of compatibility that FreeBSD has had ZFS support where
Linux-based systems have not.
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 11:11:23AM +0700, Phan Quoc Hien wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> Which laptop vendor is best support for FreeBSD ?
I've had good luck with ThinkPads.
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great,
even if I don't touch it for a week or so, at least for me. There are
benefits to a rolling release process, too:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/security/?p=4150
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On Wed, Oct 06, 2010 at 10:18:54PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
[stuff]
Thanks! That gives me a lot to look into. I appreciate the information.
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t;Sure, go ahead, we don't
care," I'd still be inclined to seek further advice more concerned with
my own legal safety before removing any legal notices though -- aside
from the tags on my matresses and pillows (for instance).
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> download it as a binary package... Just my $0.02...
. . . without Java, given Java's licensing restrictions.
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The problem I'm having is that I can't get a vi-like keybindings
extension to work. I guess it's likely that most extensions haven't been
tested for compatibility on FreeBSD, though.
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On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 11:30:28AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote:
> Quoth Chad Perrin on Monday, 18 October 2010:
> > The problem I'm having is that I can't get a vi-like keybindings
> > extension to work. I guess it's likely that most extensions haven't been
>
, if any, exist between these two ports aside from the
names.
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tphone is
wasted on useless crap that only gets in my way.
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eresting" while I'm writing shell scripts I tend to just use
a more robust language like Perl. Please let me know if there's some way
to use a simple idiom like the Perl example to get the same results in
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in vi or Vim and give it this command:
:%s/$/^M/
Note that you don't type in that ^M by using the ^ and M keys on the
keyboard. Instead, you first type ctrl-v then press the Enter key.
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regex than \n, and only require one newline
character in the substitution part as a result:
perl -pie 's/$/\n/' filename.txt
Plus . . . I like pie.
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mple use cases, and it works well. Thanks for
saving me a little trouble.
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Vimium
does not install on FreeBSD's Chromium browser port.
If you want details about how I got Vimium to install, and on Vimium plus
FreeBSD in general, I chronicled the experience in my personal devlog:
http://blogstrapping.com/?page=2010.308.12.13.14
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On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 02:25:23PM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> Vimium is one of several Chromium extensions that provide some vi-like
> keybindings, and arguably the one with the best vi-like experience.
> Unfortunately, it is not quite up to the standards of Vimperator on
> Fir
On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 08:32:11PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
>
> So are there plans to get 7x into ports? I would love to go back to Chrome
> as a browser ... I find Firefox so clunky now! :D
Well . . . I have no idea what pla
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 12:55:41AM -0600, Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 08:32:11PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 8:21 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >
> > So are there plans to get 7x into ports? I would love to go back to Chrome
> &
egree and, considering the change in ownership, I'm unlikely
to start using it if I do not have an immediate, specific use-case that
calls for the capabilities of ZFS in particular.
. . . on top of which, I don't feel a need to do Oracle any favors. Your
mileage may vary, of course
f the CDDL is "dangerous" somehow.
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er, or have you switched MUAs when you started using ssmtp?
Chris Brennan suggested you send more information; in addition to
answering my question, it might be useful to give us the information
Chris requested -- but make sure you obscure any username/password
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7;m glad they've both been forked following Oracle's
acquisition, if only because they can serve as tests of Oracle's
readiness to sue people for forking the company's "intellectual
property".
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Microsoft Java VM
> was abandoned because of this and everyone had to switch to the Sun
> one.
I think Steven was saying that people are still using Java the language,
not that they're still using Microsoft's Java implementation.
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On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 11:25:13PM -0500, Steven Susbauer wrote:
> On 11/5/10 4:34 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >Will Oracle start using patent suits to try to stop people
> >who aren't paying for ZFS or who are using it on platforms other than
> >Solaris from using it
out whether maillog has anything to offer for hints, you
might want to paste its contents into pastebin and give us a link to it
there so we can give it a look (after checking to make sure you are not
pasting any sensitive data, of course).
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btrfs (as compared with ZFS).
>
> Having said all that it really depends on whether you need the extra
> features of zfs. Personally I cant see how anyone with any important data
> can do without checksuming.
I guess that depends on what you're doing with the data and what kind of
ext
un lighter than the whole MS Windows GUI,
even if they're much heavier than other options.
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may be others that escape my memory at
this exact moment, too.
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> didn't, just 'noname' for the file name
That supposition is correct. I find it odd that someone else's signature
is labeled as such and mine is not for you; for me, I see mine labeled as
PGP signatures as well. I'm curren
it to .Net?
Some of the technology may have made it into the .NET framework, and C#
may in some respects be quite similar to Java, but .NET is most certainly
not Java.
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kipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument_Foundation
Yes, there are already forks underway -- such as LibreOffice (OO.o fork),
MariaDB (MySQL fork), and so on. We'll see whether they end up subject
to expensive lawsuits as a result.
I haven't read your links yet, but I'll probably get to it tomo
ecall the existence of an
apt-get-like tool specifically for dealing with source, called apt-src.
You should be able to install it on your system and sift through its
manpage at your leisure:
apt-get install apt-src
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ou might want to give
AHWM a try. It's in FreeBSD ports.
>
> Coming back to your initial statement: For users EXPECTING something
> to act in a specific way, KDE and Gnome really "boost" their
> productivity, as it doesn't force them to question or relearn
>
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 05:17:19PM +, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> On 06/11/2010 16:10, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > Will Oracle lawyers
> > find some patent related to the creation of that software the company
> > "owns" and use that to sue you if you fork the projec
th an easy
fix. Anyone?
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even if it's not really important for my current
needs, though.
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