Kernel panic; fatal trap 12; on task 22, USB0: was Re: Moused issues?

[Joe Altman]

NB: I've copied -usb because it looks to me like it's definitely USB
that's implicated; but I still need a clue for getting a crash dump;
-questions seems the place to ask for that.

On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 07:57:41PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote:
> 
> uname for the machine on which it fails:
> 
> 6.2-STABLE FreeBSD 6.2-STABLE #0: Sun Sep  2 17:30:39 EDT 2007 i386
> 
> Is it possible to get more info on this for debugging short of putting
> debugging in the kernel, and configuring a dump device; rebuilding
> world, and hoping my machine does not become unusable?

I'm still seeing the USB associated crashes, with sources updated
several times and world remade between Sept. 23 and Oct. 6, 11 AM EDT.

The above uname shows the only kernel I can use.

I've attempted to obtain a dump using these instructions:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html#KERNELDEBUG-OBTAIN

And here, I think, are the relevent details.

In /etc/rc.conf, I have:

##Crash
dumpdev="AUTO"
dumpdir="/var/tmp/crash"

/var/tmp/crash exists with appropriate permissions; and swapinfo shows
2 Gig of space:

 ~ $: swapinfo
Device  1M-blocks UsedAvail Capacity
/dev/ad0s1b  20480 2048 0%

AIUI, dumpdev="AUTO" dictates the use of /dev/ad0s1b.

/var/tmp has this much free space:

df -m
/dev/ad0s1f  3962   618  302717%/var/tmp

However, my kernel tosses this message to the console:

Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode



and indicates a problem with task 22, USB[1] 0. Prior to problem with
task 22, USB 0; it was the same fatal trap, task 25, USB 1.

Then it indicates that there is no dump device. It seems to me that
all I should have to do is define the dumpdev in rc.conf to obtain a
dump; and in my case, since /var is smaller than RAM and swap, define
/var/tmp/crash.

So it looks to me as if I am experiencing what is described here:

"...a kernel is crashing before dumpon(8) can be executed." taken from
the kerneldebug.html page.

Or am I missing something in the configuration of the dump device? If
not, is my only option to put a dump directive into my kernel config?
If so, what is the proper syntax?

device dump  

or something else?

Also, I decided it was easier for my to snap a picture than
transcribe the screen; it's here if anyone is interested:

chthonic.com/crash-crash-crash

I'm limping along, I think; and would appreciate some clues, please.

One more data point: I'm using an IBM PIII laptop; and I do not
experience any crash on that; and my AMD dual core does not crash
either; all three machines use, AFAICT, the same USB code.

Thanks.

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Re: Kernel panic; fatal trap 12; on task 22, USB0: was Re: Moused issues?

[Joe Altman]

On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 11:01:41AM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
> On Saturday 06 October 2007, Joe Altman wrote:
> > chthonic.com/crash-crash-crash
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Do you have "options KDB" in your kernel config file ?

Following your suggestion, I did try this; and there was no
change from kernel panic and reboot.

> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug-options.html
> 
> You should get a prompt when it panics.

There was no prompt.

> Then you type in "bt" for backtrace. 
> Maybe you could take a picture of that. 

Personally, it's a bit embarassing to be so helpless that I am forced
to take a picture. I suppose if I could be certain about how to
compile bootblocks, I might be able to do something on the serial
console with a laptop.

But the one time I attempted that was a disaster. 

Is my speculation about the "...no dump device found..." correct? Is
it that swapon and multiuser has not occurred, and so there can occur
no dump to the swap space?

> Probably someone is accessing a NULL pointer.

If any more damage occurs, ISTM that my entire installation will be
accessing a NULL pointer; the following message is from the most
recent dmesg, and is new:

warning: KLD '/boot/kernel.old.bootable/drm.ko' is newer than the
linker.hints file

Since my hardware appears to not work with the available source, who
knows how that will go?
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Re: [FAQ pointer] Re: Non-root access to peripheral file devices

[Joe Altman]

[copying the original poster in my somewhat related followup]

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 01:01:06PM -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Dr Lyman Hazelton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Perhaps this is discussed somewhere, but so far I haven't found 
> > anything that helps.
> 
> "How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs and other removable media?"
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOPPYMOUNT

These conditions are "anded", right?

While I'm asking silly questions: is there a way to exclude certain
devices or directories from the effects of updating world? In my
experience, it seems rare that MAKEDEV must be run, but it would be
nice if /var/mail were left at 1777 across updates; a bonus if, once I
changed perms around on a device like the cdrom, it stayed changed.

I'm thinking along the lines of the ignore categories in pkgtools.conf...
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I want to install a game...Unreal Tournament GOTY

[Joe Altman]

This is a long query; I apologize for the verbosity. I've tried to do
the relevant research.

My first attempt to install results in this error:

+ERROR+

sh ut-install-436-GOTY.run 
Verifying archive integrity...OK
Uncompressing Unreal Tournament version 436-GOTY Linux
install
chown: separation of user and group with a period is deprecated
ELF binary type "0" not known.
Abort trap
ELF binary type "3" not known.
Abort trap
The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1

Please contact Loki Technical Support at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The program returned an error code (1)

++END RROR+

Assume with me that the relevant clue is this line:

The setup program seems to have failed on x86/glibc-2.1

I've looked around and believe that glibc is a Gnu C Library...as
distinct from the BSD C Library. Further, it seems obvious that I will
need to install something Linux-related to get this game running.

I've looked around through the ports tree, and have found the
following:

make search name=glib turns up a bunch of stuffthe most
interesting thing, it seems, is this

Port:   linux-glib2-2.2.1
Path:   /usr/ports/devel/linux-glib2
Info:   Version 2.X Linux/i386 binary port of GLib

R-deps: linux_base-7.1_5

The Makefile doesn't seem to pull in the R-deps: linux_base-7.1_5, but
I could be misreading the Makefile.

Looking at it a different way, I see that there is an option to
install one of these:

/usr/ports/emulators/linux_base*

6 is marked forbidden, so that is right out...leaving either 8 or
7.1_5. However, neither has a mention of glibc-2.1.x, only 2.2.x

I guess my question is: do I need to do linux_base-7.1_5, and
linux-glib2-2.2.1, or can I get by with only one or the other?

That, or am I asking the wrong question?

That said, I'd like to try to get Unreal Tournament running on
Anna. Anna does have a custom kernel without Linux bits in it, so I
assume that this module will load as needed:

linux.ko

Or should I use this:

linux_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf

I see in the archives from November that Karel J. Bosschaart used:

linux-flashplugin-5.0r51 The official Macromedia Flash Player for Linux
linux-gtk-1.2_2 RPM of the Gtk lib
linux-png-1.0.14_2  RPM of the PNG lib
linux-realplayer-8.cs2_2 Linux RealPlayer 8.0 from RealNetworks
linux_base-7.1_2The base set of packages needed in Linux mode

All of these seem a bit much; most likely only the latter one is
necessary. I'd like to get away with only installing what I absolutely
need, which I hope is just the /usr/ports/devel/linux-glib2 port. 

Info and such:

uname -a:

FreeBSD anna.chthonixia.net 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #0: Mon Dec
8 00:27:15 EST 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ANNA
i386

glxinfo:
name of display: :0.0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI G400 20020221 AGP 1x x86/MMX

Thanks for any pointers

Joe
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Re: I want to install a game...Unreal Tournament GOTY

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:52:33PM +1030, George Patterson wrote:
> Joe, 
> 
> Do you have the Linux compatibility kernel module loaded?? 

No, I don't...but I looked around my file tree for glibc, and didnt'
find it...it was in the back of my mind that the linux kernel module
might be dynamic and loaded as necessary, and the glibc was necessary
but not present in my file tree.

> Just a guess..

ThanksI'm in the dark, myself. I assume it will be necessary, at a
minimum, but still don't know about glibc.
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Wterm and FreeBSD 9

[Joe Altman]

Greetings...

For FreeBSD 8, we see this for wterm:

BROKEN= does not compile

.if ${OSVERSION} > 97
BROKEN= fails to build with new utmpx
.endif

I'd like to confirm that wterm will build and run on 9. I'm currently
running 8.3-RELEASE-p1 FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE-p1 #0.

Does anyone know?

Thanks, and best regards,

Joe
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Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

[Joe Altman]

Greetings...

 uname -a
FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 8.1-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE-p4
#0: Sat May 28 21:25:00 EDT 2011
r...@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER  amd64

Sources, including ports, updated on May 28 after the bind security
notice. 

Here is the tail of the error:



===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products (all) groff -p -S -Wall 
-mtty-char -man
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.pic
>
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.ps
groff -p -S -Wall -mtty-char -man
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.pic
>
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.ps
/bin/rm -f docbook.css /bin/cat
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/docbook.css >
docbook.css /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER
-dDELAYSAFER -sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox
-sOutputFile=/dev/null
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.ps
>/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
2>&1 /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER -dDELAYSAFER
-sPAPERSIZE=letter -r72 -sDEVICE=bbox -sOutputFile=/dev/null
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.ps
>/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps
2>&1
*** Error code 1
*** Error code 1
2 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en.



Any clues on how to fix this? I chose only split HTML as the output.

Please feel free to Cc: me as I'm not on the list; but I will check the web 
interface for the list.

Thank you for any help, and best regards,

Joe
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Re: Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

[Joe Altman]

> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 1:05 AM, Adam Vande More wrote:
> >
> > Seems like there should be more detail.  Try
> >
> > make clean && make -j1

Interesting:

===>  Building for en-freebsd-doc-20110521
/bin/cat /usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.html-split
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.html-common
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.extras
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/pkg-plist.common >
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/pkg-plist
===> en_US.ISO8859-1 (all)
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles (all)
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/5-roadmap (all)
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/bsdl-gpl (all)
===> en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products (all)
/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -offset 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps
| /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4
-dEPSCrop -r100x100  -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pnm -sOutputFile=-
-g`/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -geom 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.eps`
-  | /usr/local/bin/pnmtopng >
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-organization.png
/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -offset 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
| /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 -dTextAlphaBits=4
-dEPSCrop -r100x100  -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pnm -sOutputFile=-
-g`/usr/bin/perl
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -geom 100
100
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps`
-  | /usr/local/bin/pnmtopng >
/usr/ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/work/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png
Error: no BoundingBox found.
Error: no BoundingBox found.
Error: no BoundingBox found.
pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
*** Error code 1
Error: no BoundingBox found.
pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
*** Error code 1
2 errors
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
*** Error code 1
1 error
*** Error code 2

There is this thread from 2009, and it looks like the same issue as
the one in this message:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-December/209892.html

It looks like I'll need to open a bug report with the Doc project
team.

Thanks for the pointer, Adam.

Best regards,

Joe
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Re: Building misc/freebsd-doc-en fails

[Joe Altman]

On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 02:32:37PM +, Joe Altman wrote:
>
> There is this thread from 2009, and it looks like the same issue as
> the one in this message:
> 
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-December/209892.html
> 
> It looks like I'll need to open a bug report with the Doc project
> team.

After reading the thread referenced above, and looking at the output
of my build, I noticed that the build was failing in different areas.

So I decided to run make on the port multiple times, and eventually
the port installed successfully. However, the port in my tree (dated #
$FreeBSD: ports/misc/freebsd-doc-en/Makefile,v 1.36 2011/05/22
14:28:49 blackend Exp $) in a fresh tree made only through
2010, according to the copyright at the top of the
handbook. Individual files in that doc tree were variously dated; the
newest being 8/2010.

So I ran make, multiple times, on the source; and that gave me a doc
tree dated 2011. Most of the files there were dated 5/29/11. A few
exceptions were found in image files dated 3/2010, which all loaded in
SeaMonkey, except for some files in: advanced-networking, security,
vinum, geom. I may have missed others in other books.

To summarize: 

1) It appears that make is, in this case, a hammer that must be
applied more than once to either the source or the port.

2) Not all images are seen as valid, and according to make may have
bad magic numbers. If building from source is used on a fresh tree, it
may be possible to have make ignore all the errors by using the -k
flag.

3) I have no idea how things will go with an upgrade to the doc
source; I normally use portupgrade, so I suppose I will find out
later.

I've submitted a bug report.

Best regards,

Joe






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Upgrading libxul, dependency on Firefox 3

[Joe Altman]

Greetings...

I was running portupgrade on libxul and noticed it depends on Firefox
3.x. I cancelled the upgrade, because I thought FF3.x was insecure and
therefore deprecated while FF7 was recommended and secure.

My questions:

1) is the dependency libxul has for FF3 a security problem?

2) is the dependency on FF3 a bug in libxul? If it is a bug, who
   should receive a report: gecko@ or the Mozilla project?

FYI: I'm pretty sure it was portsclean -D (and not me) that deleted
FF3...yet libxul tried to pull it in during the portupgrade.

Best regards,

Joe
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Re: Upgrading libxul, dependency on Firefox 3

[Joe Altman]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 09:28:40PM +0200, Beat G?tzi wrote:
> On Oct 22, 2011, at 2:54 AM, Joe Altman wrote:
> > Greetings...
> > 
> > I was running portupgrade on libxul and noticed it depends on Firefox
> > 3.x. I cancelled the upgrade, because I thought FF3.x was insecure and
> > therefore deprecated while FF7 was recommended and secure.
> > 
> > My questions:
> > 
> > 1) is the dependency libxul has for FF3 a security problem?
> 
> libxul doesn't depend on FF3. 

Got it. Thanks, and best regards,

Joe
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Error in building documentation from source

[Joe Altman]

Greetings...
 
I've some sort of image error in building the docs from source. I've
copied it below, and wonder how it might be fixed? Sometimes, the
issue causes many runs of make in the directory
/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1 before all errors are exhausted and other
times (like the most recent) only one or two errors occur.

*** Error code 1 (ignored)
===> articles/building-products (all)
/usr/local/bin/gs -q -dNOPAUSE -dBATCH -dSAFER -dDELAYSAFER
-sPAPERSIZE=letter
-r72 -sDEVICE=bbox  -sOutputFile=/dev/null  
/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.ps
>
/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
2>&1
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1.

Followed by:

===> articles/building-products (all)
/usr/bin/perl /usr/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -offset 100 100 
/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps
| /usr/local/bin/gs -q -dBATCH -dGraphicsAlphaBits=4 
-dTextAlphaBits=4  -dEPSCrop -r100x100  -dNOPAUSE -dSAFER -sDEVICE=pnm 
-sOutputFile=-  -g`/usr/bin/perl /usr/doc/share/misc/epsgeom -geom 100
100 
/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.eps`
-  | /usr/local/bin/pnmtopng > 
/usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/../../../share/images/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png
Error: no BoundingBox found.
Error: no BoundingBox found.
pnmtopng: bad magic number - not a ppm, pgm, or pbm file
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1.

For both images in the
/usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/
directory, the result displayed in my browser is an image that
contains this text: 

The image 
"file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/building-products/freebsd-branches.png"
cannot be displayed because it contains errors.

A similar condition exists for other image directories:

file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom/striping.png

All images in:
file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/security/
file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/vinum/
file:///usr/share/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/

Unless someone here knows the fix, I think that a bug report should go
to the doc project mailing list; is that correct?

Regards,

Joe
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Re: Error in building documentation from source

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:15:21PM +0100, Patrick Lamaiziere wrote:
> Le Sun, 8 Jan 2012 19:58:18 -0500,
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I've just tried without problem. Well, have you the port
> textproc/docproj installed (of course)?

The equivalent, AIUI: docproj-nojadetex.

> Be sure that the source are up to date too.

Yes, they are.

> You can ask on doc@ or fill or a bug report within the doc section.
> (I would ask doc@ because it works for me, not sure if there is a
> bug)

I'll ask there; thanks.

Joe
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Re: snd_hda and front headphones jack

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 08:55:49AM -0500, Mark Felder wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> I seem to be having problems getting my front headphones jack to work.
>
 
> 
> If I am looking at this right I believe I need to set nid25 to as=1 which  
> matches the nid31 Speaker and probably also set seq=15. However, this  
> doesn't seem to be working. Am I overlooking something obvious?

In XMMS, which is what I use, I have to choose the Front Analog (pcm 2)
via Options => Preferences => Configure => Output Plugin for the front
headphone jack. Normally, I have it set to Rear Digital (pcm 3) for
speakers.

HTH, 

Joe
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shotwell fails to build

[Joe Altman]

Greetings...

I checked at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi and found
no open bug-reports; and nothing on -questions for March. Maybe it's
confined to my system, or I missed an UPDATING notice; if not, I'll go
to the maintainer and/or file a bug report. Before I do that are there
any clues here WRT this failure?

Shotwell fails to build with the following error:

===>  Configuring for shotwell-0.11.6_3
Configured.  Type 'make' to build, 'make install' to install.
===>  Building for shotwell-0.11.6_3
valac -c -g --enable-checking --thread --fatal-warnings
--vapidir=plugins/ -X -DGETTEXT_PACKAGE='"shotwell"' -X
-I. --pkg=gobject-2.0 --pkg=glib-2.0 --pkg=gdk-2.0 --pkg=gtk+-2.0
--includedir=plugins --vapi=plugins/shotwell-plugin-dev-1.0.vapi
--header=plugins/shotwell-plugin-dev-1.0.h
src/plugins/SpitInterfaces.vala src/plugins/TransitionsInterfaces.vala
src/plugins/PublishingInterfaces.vala
gtk+-2.0.vapi:5802.40-5802.42: warning: Gtk is deprecated. Use gtk+-3.0
Compilation failed: 0 error(s), 1 warning(s)
gmake: *** [plugins/shotwell-plugin-dev-1.0.vapi] Error 1
*** [do-build] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/shotwell.

uname -a
FreeBSD whisperer.chthonixia.net 9.1-STABLE FreeBSD 9.1-STABLE #0
r248932: Sat Mar 30 18:08:33 EDT 2013
r...@whisperer.chthonixia.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WHISPERER  amd64

Thanks,

Joe
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Re: Why is "pkg_glob" no longer working for me?

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 02:54:59PM -0600, Tom Russo wrote:
> 
> Anyone else have this issue?  Or am I the only one left still using
> portupgrade and its associated tools?

I use portupgrade and have noticed no failures. I have never used
pkg_glob so I cannot address that. I have used portupgrade as you, for
many ports, and have always seen failures printed to my terminal at the
end of the mass upgrade with an alert to that effect; just like for a
single port. It seems that you are not seeing that report?

Best regards,

Joe
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Re: graphics/shotwell port don't compile right

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 04:46:42PM +0200, Xavier wrote:
> Hi to all,
> 
> First, I have ports tree all update:
>
 
>
> If I try to compile graphics/shotwell don't right:

There are bug reports open on shotwell's issues:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/177913

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/178014

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/177568

You may wish to attach your report to one of them.

Best regards,

Joe
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CEO Workstation Nakatomi Socrates in beastie.4th

[Joe Altman]

Seriously, don't scare me like that.

But JIC: I don't need to worry? Right?

Joe
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Scanning: Sane-Backends: from 1.0.16 to 1.0.17 or Xsane: 0.97 to 0.98

[Joe Altman]

One of the two recent portupgrades seems to have broken scanning for
an HP 2200C using the Plustek backend.

One of the issues I face is that I don't recall if the upgrade for
Xsane occurred before or after I last used the scanner
successfully. 0.98a was released twice, in late November; followed
closely by 0.98b in early December.

However: prior to the port upgrade for the Plustek backend (this was
released/ported on or about 2005-12-26th) XSane and the appropriate
Sane backend worked fine. After the backend upgrade, the best behavior
I can obtain from Xsane is a core dump.

Before I submit a bug report to the Sane maintainer or the Xsane
maintainer, I thought I'd ask if anyone else is seeing this or similar
behavior:

Xsane will just appear to hang, as will xscanimage. The light for the
scanner comes on, and sometimes the scan will begin; if it does, the
light stays on after the core dump and does not return to its
bay. Both sane-find-scanner and scanimage -L work, but Xsane sometimes
eventually dumps core and xscanimage doesn't do much of anything.

Thanks in advance, and best regards...

Joe
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New Canon LiDE60; and it seems to need a reference(?) in source

[Joe Altman]

I have this device:

# usbdevs -v
port 3 addr 2: high speed, power 500 mA, config 1, CanoScan(0x221c),
Canon(0x04a9), rev 3.06

#sane-find-scanner
found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x221c [CanoScan],
chip=GL841) at libusb:/dev/usb4:/dev/ugen0

#scanimage -L
device `genesys:libusb:/dev/usb4:/dev/ugen0' is a Canon LiDE 60
flatbed scanner

#dmesg
ugen0: Canon CanoScan, rev 2.00/3.06, addr 2

I've read back to some archived questions, and it seems (I'm guessing)
that this scanner lacks a reference in these two files:

/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c
/usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs

I say this, because while the above queries turn up the correct
info[1] for the scanner, there is no uscanner0 device created in /dev/
on this system:

5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Sun Jan 22 21:00:53 EST 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED] nondescript blue box:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ANNA2  i386

So my query: if my guess is correct, and who do I ask to patch the
relevant source?

I did look at the code, but wasn't certain how to translate from the
three outputs above into an appropriate syntax.

[1] The sane project seems to agree, in that it lists the scanner as
supported in the genesys backend, as of the most recent version of the
sane-backends, 1.0.17.
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USB0 host controller crash

[Joe Altman]

Last night, I fired up Grip and shortly after it was invoked, my mouse
(ums0: Razer Razer Diamondback Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 3,
iclass 3/1 ums0: 7 buttons and Z dir) went dark. It's transparent,
so it was obvious when it died. Right about that time, the USB
keyboard followed (ukbd0: vendor 0x1241 USB Keyboard, rev 1.10/2.80,
addr 2, iclass 3/1 kbd0 at ukbd0 uhid0: vendor 0x1241 USB Keyboard,
rev 1.10/2.80, addr 2, iclass 3/1.)

Here, the errors from dmesg:

usb0: host controller process error
usb0: host controller halted

I moved the mouse to a different USB port, and it was detected and
useable; as expected, the USB keyboard did not come back when I moved
it to a different USB port.

I don't have any further information; but do more experienced eyes see
some indication that there might be something seriously amiss here,
requiring further investigation?

FreeBSD anna 6.1-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE #0: Sat Feb  4
21:36:42 EST 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ANNA i386

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Re: RELENG_6 and a Razer Copperhead mouse don't work

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 07:57:09PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>   19. RELENG_6 and a Razer Copperhead mouse don't work (lars)
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2006 19:26:53 +0100
> From: lars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RELENG_6 and a Razer Copperhead mouse don't work
> 
> Hi all
> 
> I run FreeBSD RELENG_6 on an A8N32-SLI Deluxe motherboard
> http://www.asus.com/products4.aspx?l1=3&l2=15&l3=0&model=744&modelmenu=1
> with a Razer Copperhead (www.razerzone.com) mouse connected via USB.
> 
> The OS boots without error and also recognizes my USB keyboard.
> 
> But when I try to configure my mouse with sysinstall the mouse
> cursor flickers for a split second and then disappears.
> 
> An entry /dev/ums0 in rc.conf doesn't help either.
> 
> It also doesn't work in X, of course. A Logitech MX300 USB mouse
> works however.
> 
> Has anyone managed to get this Razer mouse (which is quite comfy)

It's like a glove, yes, it is.

> to run correctly with FreeBSD?

I have a Diamondback that works well under Xorg and console:

ums0: Razer Razer Diamondback Optical Mouse, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 2,
iclass 3/1

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Mouse0"
Driver  "mouse"
Option  "Protocol" "auto"
Option  "Device" "/dev/sysmouse"
Option  "Buttons" "5"
Option  "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

I think that enabling usdb in /etc/rc.conf will kickstart moused,
giving you console access to the mouse; and this even though moused is
disabled by default in /etc/defaults/rc.conf.

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Trivial query: the GUI for wpa_supplicant

[Joe Altman]

Greetings...

I've started to configure my Atheros card, and during that process
visited the hostap site 
after installing the wpa_supplicant port.

During my reading, I noticed that there exists a GUI for hostap,
wpa_gui; and I also noticed that the code for the GUI is not in the
ports work directory. There is some code listed here, for the
developer version which looks like it's tagged at 0.4:



Currently, wpa_supplicant is at version 0.3.8; so I wonder if anyone
who talks with Sam Leffler (or reads a different list, where it was
mentioned) knows if, or when, that code will be imported into the
wpa_supplicant tree? It looks like it will be sometime after March
6th, if that soon.

For those who are interested, screenshots are here:



Has anyone had an opportunity to try it on some other OS?

Thanks in advance.
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Re: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 130, Issue 18

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 07, 2006 at 05:02:17PM +,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   29. Wine installation/configuration question (John Hoover)
> 
> --
> 
> Message: 29
> Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 11:12:25 -0500
> From: "John Hoover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Wine installation/configuration question
> To: "FreeBSD Mailing List" 
> Message-ID:
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> I've having trouble with Wine. I'm getting the same error regardless
> if I compile from the ports tree, install a package, or compile from
> source.
> 
> on FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE
> 
> %wine program.exe
> fixme:msvcrt:_spawnve :not translating name /usr/local/lib/../bin/wine
> to locate program

Does something like this also fail?

wine "c:\UnrealTournament\System\UnrealTournament.exe"

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Re: make clean all installed ports

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 09:10:15AM +0100, Peter Risdon wrote:
> I'm sure I saw recently on this list that it's possible to:
> 
> #cd /usr/ports
> #make clean somethingorother
> 
> and clean just installed ports. A straight make clean in the root of the 
> ports tree takes rather a long time.
> 
> But I can't seem to find the post anywhere. If this isn't the product of 
> my feverish imagination, I'd be grateful for a reminder.

Matthew Seaman recently posted this:

make clean -DNOCLEANDEPENDS
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Re: Free BSD documentation required

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, Dec 08, 2004 at 03:55:11PM +0530, Milind Nanal wrote:
> 
> 
> List,
> 
> I am new to FreeBSD & finding is little difficult with administrative
> commands. I have worked on RedHat & Suse.  Service startup, boot scripts,
> pstree command everything seems to be different in FreeBsd  compare to
> RedHat or Suse.
> 
> Can any give me good ref URL other that FreeBSD.org to refer BSD documents.
> Basic admin guide, security guide, tools, commands & tips & tricks, HOWTO is
> required to get hold the OS & explore in a better manner.

links /usr/share/doc/

links /usr/share/examples/

Or if you have an X session, run links -g on the two paths.

I found OnLamp articles by Dru to be very helpful; and this seems
apropos to your needs:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2004/11/11/FreeBSD_Basics.html

http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/ct/15

Michael Lucas is also noteworthy:

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/ct/13

Dan Langille has a site, and he posts here regularly with updates:

http://www.freebsddiary.org/

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Re: Totally lost

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 08:23:40PM +, Mário Gamito wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When i install FreeBSD 5.3, libtool, automake and autoconf don't get 
> installed.
> 
> I upgrade the ports.
> After that is the total confusion.
> 
> One program wants libtools version x, another, y ando so on.
> Some thing to automake and autoconf.
> 
> How do i solve this mess ?
> 
> I'm driving nuts :(
> 
> Any help would be apreciated.

I suggest breaking the problem(s) apart by starting with one single
port you need; one generally found on many systems.

But prior to that, tell us more or less where you are in the
installation process for this particular machine; also tell us what
this particular machine wil be used to do: home desktop, webserver,
shell server, print server...or something else altogether.
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Re: Screen usage... was: Xorg/laptop

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 02:05:00PM -0500, Dan Kilbourne wrote:
> Bomgardner,Jon  extolled:
> > 
> > Other than that I've just been learning a lot of nifty features like
> > changing the number of rows on the display, changing colors, how to set
> > up a splash screen, etc...  Fun times!
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Jon
> > 
> 
> Maybe you can provide some links to some of these nifty features?
> 
> I use a laptop w/fbsd, and X has no issues running at 1024x768, but I am
> unsure also how to get the console to that resolution - I can stretch my
> default 640x480 (I think) to take up the whole screen, but it looks
> pretty awful

Here, the contents of my /etc/rc.conf

font8x8="iso-8x8"
font8x14="iso-8x14"
font8x16="iso-8x16"
allscreens_flags="80x60"

The relevant lines from my kernel config:

options VESA

These are for my desktop.

Some interesting things you can do on a laptop or desktop:

vidcontrol -b red

Will set a border around your screen (in some cases) to red.

vidcontrol -i mode

Will show you what your hardware can support. IIRC, adding VESA to the
kernel options will make it possible to gain access to more of the
possible resolutions.

I don't have my laptop bits in front of me just now. In any event,
read the man page for vidcontrol; and twiddle a virtual terminal if
you play with colors; you can find out the possible combos with
vidcontrol show.
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Re: Screen usage... was: Xorg/laptop

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 03:16:10PM -0500, Joe Altman wrote:
> 
> Here, the contents of my /etc/rc.conf
> 
> font8x8="iso-8x8"
> font8x14="iso-8x14"
> font8x16="iso-8x16"
> allscreens_flags="80x60"
> 
> The relevant lines from my kernel config:
> 
> options VESA
> 
> These are for my desktop.
> 
> Some interesting things you can do on a laptop or desktop:
> 
> vidcontrol -b red
> 
> Will set a border around your screen (in some cases) to red.
> 
> vidcontrol -i mode
> 
> Will show you what your hardware can support. IIRC, adding VESA to the
> kernel options will make it possible to gain access to more of the
> possible resolutions.
> 
> I don't have my laptop bits in front of me just now. In any event,
> read the man page for vidcontrol; and twiddle a virtual terminal if
> you play with colors; you can find out the possible combos with
> vidcontrol show.

Then there are these:

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1024x768 Resolution in console?

Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Console 50-lines at bootup?

The IDs and Subjects may be reversed; but you should be able to find
them in the archives.
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Re: ld-elf.so.1: Shared object"libintl.so.6" not found

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 04:13:29PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> Aha!
> 
 
> What I recommend is that you open a doc PR requesting that this be
> documented somewhere, so that future generations don't run into this
> problem as well.

Once, I somehow or another stumbled over a little rhyming that
contained something about "...change the root shell; go straight to
admin hell..."

It's one of those things that has stuck w/ me, for whatever reason.
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Re: Trouble with 'portsdb -uU' and ld-elf.so...

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 10:07:19AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm having trouble with 'portsdb -uU'
> 
> It worked exactly twice on my machine.  I was using the following 
> commands to upgrade all my ports:
> 
> # cvsup -g -L 2 /root/ports-supfile
> # portsdb -uU
> # pkgdb -F
> # portupupgrade -a
> 
> worked fine first two times.  Now.. my cvsup works fine.  but when I 
> 'portsdb -uU', it runs for a while and then I get something like:
> 
> K_1_2 Segmentation fault (core dumped) JAVA_PORT_LINUX_IBM_JDK_1_3 | 
> /usr/bin/awk '{ print $1 }'" returned non-zero status
> ===> java/javamail failed
> *** Error code 1
> 2 errors
> /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: rm: Shared object has no run-time symbol table

Here is my guess, and I emphasize that it is a guess:

http://fireflynetworks.net/pipermail/rtg/2004-December/001375.html

is a page I found by using Google to search for:

Shared object has no run-time symbol table

> Now mind you I may have broken my ports tree at some point. 

This appears to be the case:

> I'm 
> relatively new to FreeBSD... and before I began using portupgrade... I 
> was manually upgrading a handful of ports (make install.. deinstall... 
> reinstall type stuff... downloading port folder manually).. 

I suggest reinstalling the ports you deinstalled, if you haven't
already done so...

> and I think 
> a placed a few in 'new' directories in my ports tree.  So I do not know 
> if that would 'break' my ports tree or not.  But thought it was worth 
> mentioning.

I can't quite parse this because it appears to me that you've left out
a word or two.

> 
> Other things worth mentioning:
> - I have a very slight customized kernel config file.  Added support for 
> ath, removed some processor support (486/586), added splash screen.

I don't think this is relevant.

> - I have NEVER cvsupped my kernel src... only the ports tree.

And here it is: go and update your source, including the ports tree,
after you have reinstalled the ports you deinstalled. Make sure that
the world is correctly installed; then go and try the portupgrade
bits, one port at a time.

> I have done nothing such as buildworld.

Go and do buildworld, then portupgrade.

> Have I broken something?  Am I going about upgrading ports the wrong 
> way?  

Yes, it appears that you have broken something.

> If I have broken my ports tree is it possible to recreate it 
> correctly?  Maybe delete it and reinstall off CD then cvsup it?

No, you don't need to do a complete reinstall, IMO; you do need to
update your source, perhaps even desperately.
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Xorg log message: Radeon, DRM, re-init

[Joe Altman]

Dec. 16th log:

joe on anna ~ $: ll /var/log/Xorg.0.log
root wheel 46031 Dec 16 21:06 /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Old log:
root wheel 43990 Dec  9 01:20 Xorg.0.log.old

This message is from the new log, dated Dec 16, and appears at least
five times, with the last one being approximately at 21:06 p.m. EST:

(WW) RADEON(0): [RESUME] Cannot re-init Radeon hardware, DRM too old (need 
1.9.0  or newer)

It does not appear, at all, in the log from Dec 9.

joe on anna ~ $: uname -a
FreeBSD anna.chthonixia.net 4.10-STABLE FreeBSD 4.10-STABLE #0: Wed
Nov 24 22:47:52 EST 2004

So whatever it is, it appears to have originated well after the last
update to the world. I don't update bits and pieces; I do the whole
thing all at once: kernel, userland, ports, everything.

Looking further, it appears to have something to do w/ switching to
and from VTs:

joe on anna ~ $: ll /var/log/Xorg.0.log

root  wheel 46333 Dec 16 21:28 Xorg.0.log

Google results:

http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/DRI/applied/radeon-resume-cleanup.diff

@@ -1304,168 +1328,38 @@ int radeon_do_cleanup_cp( drm_device_t *
 /* This code will reinit the Radeon CP hardware after a resume from
 disc.  
* This patch is NOT to be confused with my and Michel Daenzer's
 earlier DRI reinit work, which de- and re-initialised the complete
 DRI at every VT switch.

So what is it telling me, other than switching from X to a VT and back
to X means that the hardware cannot be "re-inited"? In some thread,
there was some mention of a memory leak, or what appeared to be a
memory leak, related to this. Would a memory leak account for this:

joe on anna ~ $: top
last pid: 14454;  load averages:  0.00,  0.00,  0.00 up 7+20:31:36
21:53:37
55 processes:  3 running, 52 sleeping
CPU states:  2.3% user,  0.0% nice,  2.7% system,  0.4% interrupt,
94.6% idle
Mem: 214M Active, 410M Inact, 97M Wired, 27M Cache, 86M Buf,
4288K Free
Swap: 1008M Total, 52K Used, 1008M Free

PID USERNAME PRI NICE  SIZERES STATETIME   WCPUCPU COMMAND
164 joe2   0   100M 92924K RUN 85:18  0.05%  0.05% Xorg

Xorg at 100 Meg. Good, bad, irrelevant?

BTW: it's interesting; but doesn't appear to me to be crucial. I'm
mostly curious about the whole thing.

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Re: Trouble with 'portsdb -uU' and ld-elf.so...

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 09:30:43PM -0500, Jonathan Franks wrote:
> Joe Altman wrote:
> 
> >On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 10:07:19AM -0600, Eric Schuele wrote:
>
> >>K_1_2 Segmentation fault (core dumped) JAVA_PORT_LINUX_IBM_JDK_1_3 | 
> >>/usr/bin/awk '{ print $1 }'" returned non-zero status
> >>===> java/javamail failed
> >>*** Error code 1
> >>2 errors
> >>/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: rm: Shared object has no run-time symbol table
> >
> From what I've heard, portsdb -Uu is not preferred in 5.3, rather one 
> should do make fetchindex in /usr/ports then run portsdb -u afterwards. 
> I've only HEARD that this is correct, but it worked for me. so make 
> of it what you will

I've used it on my 5.3 box; it seems fine. My experience doesn't mean
you are wrong.

Anyway, to my eye, it's not portsdb that is failing; in the first
example, it's awk:

> >>K_1_2 Segmentation fault (core dumped) JAVA_PORT_LINUX_IBM_JDK_1_3
> >>/usr/bin/awk '{ print $1 }'" returned non-zero status

It just happens to be failing within portsdb, at that point.

His second example had to do with running ls; that also failed, with
the same message:

Shared object has no run-time symbol table
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Re: linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.0_2/linux_base-7.1_7 conflict when upgrading linux-realplayer

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 12:57:09PM +1030, Ian Moore wrote:
>

>
> ===>  Installing for linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.0_2
> 
> ===>  linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.0_2 conflicts with installed package(s):
>   linux_base-7.1_7
> 
>   They install files into the same place.
>   Please remove them first with pkg_delete(1).
> *** Error code 1
> 
> <--snip-->
>

>
> I'm not quite sure what to do with this. Both linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.0_2 and 
> linux_base-7.1_7 are listed as a dependencies of realplayer.
> BUT (at least on the ports web page) linux_base-8.8.0_4 is listed as a 
> dependency of linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.0_2.
> So should I upgrade to linux_base-8 to fix the problem?

I'd do what the instructions in the error suggest: "Please remove them
first with pkg_delete(1)." then try to upgrade the port. It should
pull in the dependencies, no?

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Re: linux-XFree86-libs-4.3.0_2/linux_base-7.1_7 conflict when upgrading linux-realplayer

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Dec 17, 2004 at 01:57:41PM +1030, Ian Moore wrote:
> 
> I'm still have trouble understanding what to do when portupgrade asks me this 
> sort thing - well sometimes it's obvious, but often not. Should I just use -O 
> or should I fix the dependency?

I usually fix the dependency, myself.
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Re: Screen usage... was: Xorg/laptop

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 03:21:28PM -0500, Joe Altman wrote:
>


I mentioned my laptop config, and here it is (or was):

#font8x8="iso-8x8"
#font8x14="iso-8x14"
#font8x16="iso-8x16"
#font8x8="iso02-8x8.fnt"
#allscreens_flags="80x60"

And here is why it is likely to be useless for me: with things set as
above, using the latter two lines, I see a behavior similar to the
issue I reported some months ago on my IBM laptop, where startx
successfully invokes windowmaker, but the display on tty9 stays
black. The issue some months ago was related to a bug introduced into
the code for the ATI Rage Mobility. I wonder if the two things are
related.

Commenting the lines in rc.conf, and rebooting, solves the issue. So I
guess I don't get the finer resolution.
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Re: installing bsd on a laptop

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 04:54:09AM -0600, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
> On Monday 20 December 2004 12:53 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > hello, do you know of any laptop brands that can run freebsd or
> > openbsd that is available to purchase???
> 
> I was unable to get a Compaq's pccard working under FreeBSD 5.2.1 using 
> either the new or old pccard systems.  I had no problems on a Dell 
> using FreeBSD 4.10 or 5.3.

Not following up to Andrew, in particular, but to point out the "...a
Dell (or Gateway or HP or whatever)..." is not very exact; and it may
be helpful to indicate a model and /or number for any recommendation.

For instance: 

http://www1.us.dell.com/content/products/category.aspx/notebooks?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs

shows several possible notebooks. Let's take this one:

Inspiron 1150, with various features, including:

Memory 256MB Shared DDR SDRAM, 1 Dimm which means that video fills its
needs from system memory. Now, the issue here is that for lower
end laptops that use shared memory and the Intel integrated graphics
chip with a bios lock on memory allocation, you may end up w/o the
ability to display in 1024x768 in X.

So it may pay for anyone to check to see that the available memory is
sufficient to provide a minimum comfortable resolution.

Another example:

http://products.gateway.com/products/GConfig/prodDetails.asp?system_id=m275x&seg=hm

Midway down, you'll see this:

Integrated Intel. Extreme Graphics 2

What does that mean, WRT resolution in X? I can't find out, easily
(it's a JavaScript thing). It is likely that it has enough memory for
1024x768 or even a finer resolution; but it would be a good idea to
make sure, IMO. In short, I would recommend that you get as much
detail from the vendor as you can; and don't assume that because it is
a modern machine and some models in a brand do work very well with
FreeBSD that any given model will work well with FreeBSD.
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Re: complete system backup recommendations

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:21:52AM -0800, Kevin Smith wrote:
> Hello,  I'm asking for current recommendations on how to backup my 
> complete system (OS and all installed ports and user directories)  now 
> that i've spent quite a bit of time getting it right.  i'd hate to have 
> to reinstall everything again in the event of a drive failure.  Here is 
> my allocation:
> 
> 
> > df -k
> Filesystem  1K-blocksUsedAvail Capacity  Mounted on
> /dev/ad0s2a   5948558 3071326  240134856%/
> /dev/ad0s2d  23498930 1377932 20241084 6%/home
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1)  Should I purchase an inexpensive drive and clone the filesystems ? 
> If so, what is the best way to do this.  Drives are inexpensive and I 
> 20G backup drive would be fairly cheap.
> 2) I'm installing a DVD drive - I suppose I could make DVD backups 
> across multiple CD's.
> 3) any sugs ?

I've been giving this some thought also. I've played around w/ ccd, on
4.11, with two identical 40 Gig drives. I've worked w/ cdbkup; I like
it okay, as not only does it work well enough, it was a bit of a
challenge for me to learn. I've been meaning to look at DAR, but
haven't had time.

I've given some consideration to a large HDD, in a cheapo case like
the ones made by Bytecc, and dumping things over a USB 2 cable.

But if you are buying a DVD drive, maybe something like cdbkup or DAR
with growisofs (but maybe not; I only know CDRW bits) is the thing.

The only thing I'm not wild about, WRT cdbkup, is that it tars the
files in questions. I'd like to be able to mount the cd, and look at
the contents.
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Re: Supported CDRW listing for 5.3

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:11:04PM -0600, Chris wrote:
> I'm going to be in the market for a new CDRW soon - I thought there was 
> a list of supported devices. There certainly isnt a mention in the 5.3 
> Hardware Notes.

I've not used it w/ 5.3; but I have a hard time believing that Plextor
models will fail to work with FreeBSD.

I've been giving some thought to going w/ a DVD burner; they are
falling in price so that I can afford one. Even the nicer Plextors
are in reach. A quick check at newegg shows that there is about a
$30 difference between the two. That's serial or atapi DVD, btw.
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Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 04:27:51PM -0500, Brian Astill wrote:
>
> Could this conversation please be moved to -advocacy and ONLY to 
> -advocacy?

Seconded.
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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> > "comm/JT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some documentation to
> > > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this and
> > > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and outdated
> > > document.

> 
> Although this is deprecated.  Please use the following rather
> than sendmail_enable="NONE":
> 
> sendmail_enable="NO"
> sendmail_submit_enable="NO"
> sendmail_outbound_enable="NO"
> sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO" 

Where do you see this:

sendmail_enable="NONE" labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to
be the case, in the documentation I have accessed.

To the OP: the query you make is an FAQ, and the basic answers are in
the Exim documentation, with a specific section on FreeBSD. You can
find the answers by installing the HTML docs via the port, or at
exim.org. Do you have the docs for exim installed on your local
machine? The two questions you will likely need are 9201 and 9202, as
well as the handbook documentation telling you how to change your
MTA. That is in chapter 22.
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Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 12:31:37PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Dec 2004 13:17:57 -0500, Joe Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 10:31:40AM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> > > > "comm/JT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > Just a quick question, I was wondering if anyone had some 
> > > > > documentation to
> > > > > fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine. I have tried this 
> > > > > and
> > > > > seemed to have failed, just wondering if I am using an old and 
> > > > > outdated
> > > > > document.
> > 
> > >
> > > Although this is deprecated.  Please use the following rather
> > > than sendmail_enable="NONE":
> > >
> > > sendmail_enable="NO"
> > > sendmail_submit_enable="NO"
> > > sendmail_outbound_enable="NO"
> > > sendmail_msp_queue_enable="NO"
> > 
> > Where do you see this:
> > 
> > sendmail_enable="NONE" labelled as deprecated? That doesn't appear to
> > be the case, in the documentation I have accessed.
> 
> I 'see this' in man rc.sendmail(8):
> 
> sendmail_enable
> (str) If set to ``YES'', run the sendmail(8) daemon at system
> boot time.  If set to ``NO'', do not run a sendmail(8) daemon to
> listen for incoming network mail. This does not preclude a
> sendmail(8) daemon listening on the SMTP port of the loopback
> interface.  The ``NONE'' option is deprecated and should not be
> used.  It will be removed in a future release.

You mean this man rc.sendmail?


RC.SENDMAIL(8)  FreeBSD System Manager's Manual

NAME
 rc.sendmail -- sendmail(8) startup script

DESCRIPTION
 The rc.sendmail script is used by /etc/rc at boot time to start
 sendmail(8).  It is meant to be sendmail(8) specific and not a
 generic script for all MTAs.

Contrast with the handbook entry, for changing the MTA for a given
machine:

22.4 Changing Your Mail Transfer Agent
22.4.4 Replacing sendmail as the System's Default Mailer

Which addresses the OPs original request, I think: "...some
documentation to fully move from sendmail to exim on a 5.3 machine."

I don't interpret the NONE directive as deprecated, for the
mailer.conf wrapper, which is what should be used to "...fully
move..." from sendmail to Exim, AFAICT.

man mailer.conf and man mailwrapper.
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FAQ: What constitutes an inappropriate posting? Was: Re: Using Exim with FBSD 5.3

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 01:11:31PM -0600, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> 
> I guess I'm really not sure what your
> malfunction is, Joe.  What do you not understand about
> 'deprecated' and 'will be removed in a future release'?  BTW, I
> really don't care to discuss it any further; if you have any 
> additional information for the OP, by all means, give it.
> Otherwise, have a happy holiday, and drop it.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/mailing-list-faq/article.html#ETIQUETTE

2 Mailing List Etiquette

2.2. What constitutes an inappropriate posting?

Personal attacks are discouraged. As good net.citizens, we should try
to hold ourselves to high standards of behavior.

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Re: 5.3 Xorg jerky

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 08:20:30PM -0600, Adrian Patino II wrote:
> Hello, 
> 
> Fairly new to FreeBSD. Recently did a fresh install from 4.10 to 5.3,
> and noticed that when in X, things are a bit jerky, enough for me to
> notice at least.  Anything scrolling jerks and SDL video programs are
> very jerky.  Wondering what in particular should I look into to fix
> this?

> Anyways, I guess im wondering if there was
> anything I might have been doing insanely wrong, so that I can prevent
> that from happening in the future.
> I know this questions are very broad, but im too new to this game to
> make them more specific, hopefully someone can point me in the right

No, I cannot see what you might have done wrong. But as you say, you
didn't provide a lot of detail. My guess: it does sound like something
is amiss with your hardware.

Do you have an idea how to go about gathering the information you need
to troubleshoot, and eliminate it, as a source of whatever it is you
are seeing?
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Re: ATi and Xorg Troubles in FreeBSD 5.3

[Joe Altman]

Doug, Ronny...

I'm running 4.11 with xorg 6.8.1, built from source on December 28,
2004 using a Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x on an IBM ThinkPad A20m. I have
a default depth of 24 bits, and a resolution of 1024x768. I am using
the ati driver.

Ronny: I see that the query is for 5.3, but I thought that perhaps my
experience would indicate that the ATI chip seems to work fine w/ the
most recent version of xorg; or rather, the source as it existed on
December 28th.

Doug: I remember that you and I encountered the same issue, back in
September or thereabouts, WRT the ATI chip? I'm happy to report what
is above: it seems to be safe to use the ati driver w/ the newest
source for xorg and the chip in question.

HTH, best regards,

Joe
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Xsane, HP ScanJet 2200C, and a grinding noise...

[Joe Altman]

Has anyone seen any issues with XSane and a scanner using the Plustek
bits? The scanner I use has an LM9832 National SemiConductor/Plustek
chip; the scanner is USB, and prior to an upgrade to Sane it never
made a grinding noise. It never core dumped, either.

A recent update to the ports tree and world on this machine:

FreeBSD anna.chthonixia.net 4.9-STABLE FreeBSD 4.9-STABLE #1: Thu Jan
1 12:56:25 EST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ANNA
i386

seems to mark the start of the issue. That is, prior to updating the
backends port, there was no problem with this scanner, and especially
no grinding noise nor core dump.

The backends for Sane are at version 2003-11-23: SANE-Backends-1.0.13.

The prior version, 1.0.11, is dated 04/26/03.

I note at Xsane.org:

2003 Aug 27: xsane-0.92 source released

Where the FreeBSD port is at:

PORTVERSION=0.91

Dated on or about August 21, 2003. I've looked at various distfiles at
ftp.freebsd.org, to see if my ports update failed for this one port,
but I don't see such a failure.

I'm going to look elsewhere for answers, but given that there seems to
be an issue (the grinding noise, which will damage a scanner) I
thought that a heads up might be appropriate for people on this list
using this scanner.

Thanks and best regards,

Joe
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Re: Xsane, HP ScanJet 2200C, and a grinding noise...

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 06:59:48PM -0500, Joe Altman wrote:
> Has anyone seen any issues with XSane and a scanner using the Plustek
> bits? The scanner I use has an LM9832 National SemiConductor/Plustek
> chip; the scanner is USB, and prior to an upgrade to Sane it never
> made a grinding noise. It never core dumped, either.
> 

An updated port has eliminated the core dump. A preview scan still
elicits/causes a grinding noise, but scanning works just fine, so
far.

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Re: Alcatel Speedtouch 330 using PPPOE, how can I do it on FreeBSD 4.9?

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 12:01:29PM -, Godinho, Carla wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there anyone who has run with success the Modem Alcatel Speedtouch
> 330 (USB) using the PPPOE, for FreeBSD 4.9?
> Where can I find Alcatel Speedtouch 330 drivers or (ports) for FreeBSD
> 4.9 using the PPPOE?
> I'm trying to connect this kind of Modem in my system FreeBSD 4.9, but
> the only drivers I've found were for pppoa2 and pppoa3, and my ADSL
> Provider uses the pppoe.

I think the answer to your question is to look at Chapter 18 of the
Handbook. Your local copy can be found in /usr/share/doc/. A summary
of that chapter indicates that all you need to do is set up a ppp.conf
and the necessary netgraph modules will be loaded.

You can find some relevant examples in:

/usr/share/examples

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Re: Alcatel Speedtouch 330 using PPPOE, how can I do it on FreeBSD 4.9?

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 03:53:13PM +, Wayne Pascoe wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 12:01:29PM -, Godinho, Carla wrote:
> > Hi,
> > Is there anyone who has run with success the Modem Alcatel Speedtouch
> > 330 (USB) using the PPPOE, for FreeBSD 4.9?
> > Where can I find Alcatel Speedtouch 330 drivers or (ports) for FreeBSD
> > 4.9 using the PPPOE?
> > I'm trying to connect this kind of Modem in my system FreeBSD 4.9, but
> > the only drivers I've found were for pppoa2 and pppoa3, and my ADSL
> > Provider uses the pppoe.
> 
> I'm not sure if the 330 is supported, but have you tried
> http://speedtouch.sourceforge.net/ ? 
> 
> Not sure if that's any good.

Is it necessary to use this type of driver because of the USB to
ethernet? Does it perform some sort of translation, USB <--> ethernet?

Looking at the readme and faq, I see that a person will still have to
set up ppp.conf and other generic stuff, like usb, resolv.conf, and
ifconfig in /etc/rc.conf, for instance.

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Re: Alcatel Speedtouch 330 using PPPOE, how can I do it on FreeBSD 4.9?

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2004 at 07:34:37PM -, Godinho, Carla wrote:
> Yes did tried that link when installing de modem, but I get a protocol
> error when connecting to ADSL. See the details bellow:
> 
> I'm having problems when trying to use the Modem Alcatel SpeedTouch 330
> with the FreeBSD 4.9. Everytime I tried to start the ppp I get the
> following error:
> ppp[2742]: tun0: Phase: Unknown protocol 0x7075 (unrecognised protocol)
> 
> I've done some research in the Internet and I'm aware that it is tuff to
> use this kind of Modem with FreeBSD 4.9.

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-July/012224.html

points toward pppoa3...while saying it may be as buggy as pppoa2.

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On 5.1, what is the process named "idle"?

[Joe Altman]

Greetings, list subsribers...

I've installed 5.1 and a variety of apps on a machine, in preparation
for a move to 5.1 in the near future, and in the course of playing
around on it, I've noticed a process called idle:

~games: top -SU root
PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME  WCPU   CPU COMMAND
11  root -16 00K   12K RUN   59:26 94.48% 94.48%  idle

~games: more /usr/local/bin/idle
#!/usr/local/bin/python

from idlelib.PyShell import main
main()

What is idle? Is it showing the percentage of CPU unused, or some
similar thing? I poked around with apropos, and man, and briefly
looked around through the file tree, but saw nothing; I also note that
there is no apparent equivalent process on my 4.9 machine.

Thanks in advance for any answers,

fj
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Re: On 5.1, what is the process named "idle"?

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 05:50:01PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 09:39:51AM +0900, Till Plewe wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 08:04:05PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote:
> > > Greetings, list subsribers...
> > > 
> > > I've installed 5.1 and a variety of apps on a machine, in preparation
> > > for a move to 5.1 in the near future, and in the course of playing
> > > around on it, I've noticed a process called idle:
> > > 
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > > What is idle? 
> > 
> > IDLE - an Integrated DeveLopment Environment for Python
> > (see www.python.org)
> 
> Heh..no.
> 
> The idle task is the kernel thread that runs when the kernel is not
> doing anything else more meaningful like running user processes or
> servicing I/O.  It takes care of running some low-priority tasks like
> pre-zeroing memory pages in preparation for future demand.

So, should it be in a constant state of RUN, and consume more than 90%
of CPU and WCPU for more than twenty four hours? I suspect that I
still do not entirely grok the subtle meaning of the fields CPU and
WCPU...it's just that when I see this type of thing on a set of
userhosts I frequent, it often results in me or someone else yelling
over the wall to the SysAdmin: "Hey, $USERS older-than-dirt perl
process is chewing up CPU and bogging down the host...please kill the
process!" But I don't notice any stickiness on my machine...so maybe
it's no problem.

I've taken another look at this, and just noticed that there are tasks
with NICE ranging from 52 to -187 in 'top -SU root'...I'm not freaked
out by this, but note that I read the man page which indicates that
possible values range from 20 to -20.

The version runs sweetly, btw; no problems at all. Music, scanning,
updates, all that...very smooth.

Thanks for the answers,

fj
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Setting the sticky bit on /var/mail...

[Joe Altman]

I am using Exim as a local mail agent on 5.1-RELEASE-p10. Suddenly, I
can no longer set the sticky bit on /var/mail...not even as root. The
error is "operation not permitted" when I run 'chmod 1777 mail'...this
error doesn't occur on 4.9-RC.

What could cause this type of behavior, the sudden inability to set
that sticky bit? Further, if anyone has a pointer (beyond the manual)
to information regarding this, I would be grateful for the pointer.

I just finished a cvsup this weekend; but I am not sure when this
became a problem because the machine is a testbed for 5.x and is often
turned off for extended periods.

Anyway, if anyone has a clue for me, I would appreciate it. I am
guessing (utterly in the dark) that the culprit may be a chflags
issue? 

Thanks in advance for any replies...

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Re: Setting the sticky bit on /var/mail...

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 08:26:40PM -0700, Mike Maltese wrote:
> This may not be correct, but my first instinct would be to check for a flag
> on the directory, i.e., 'ls -lo /var | grep mail'.

Absolutely you are correct, and the crowd goes wild with
applause...thank you.

I suppose it would be nice to know what set all of the following on
/var/mail:

opaque nodump uappnd uchg uunlnk

because it sure wasn't me.

Removing them allowed me to set the appropriate bit. Thanks again.


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Re: Setting the sticky bit on /var/mail...

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Oct 07, 2003 at 09:13:36PM -0700, Mike Maltese wrote:
> > Absolutely you are correct, and the crowd goes wild with
> > applause...thank you.
> >
> 
> Glad it helped. =)
> 
> > I suppose it would be nice to know what set all of the following on
> > /var/mail:
> >
> > opaque nodump uappnd uchg uunlnk
> >
> > because it sure wasn't me.
> >
> > Removing them allowed me to set the appropriate bit. Thanks again.
> 
> That strikes me as really strange. Any chance another user did this or that
> the box was compromised? It seems to be no small coincidence that all the
> flags you listed are the ones that don't require root privileges.

I never give accounts on my personal machines to people; it is
possible, I suppose, that the box was compromised; but the compromiser
would have to have worked his way in through a LinkSys NAT box that
doesnt' forward anything to that box; additionally, no services are
listening on it: no sshd, no MTA, no inetd, nothing. I dont' even log
in over my LAN...to get to the console or use X, I use a KVM.

The only other account in /var/mail was gdm...it was set to user:group
92. Shrug; I don't knowuntil last night and your email, I had
mentally glossed over the entry in the chflags and ls man pages
referencing ls -lo...so I don't see any way I could have set those
flags.


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Open SSH, sshd_config on FreeBSD vs. NetBSD re: X11

[Joe Altman]

>From the FreeBSD man page:

X11Forwarding
 Specifies whether X11 forwarding is permitted. The
 argument must be ``yes'' or ``no''.  The default is
 ``yes''.

>From the NetBSD page:

X11Forwarding
 Specifies whether X11 forwarding is permitted. The
 argument must be ``yes'' or ``no''.  The default is
 ``no''.

I don't mean to compare apples and oranges, nor to start a "My OS can
kick your OSes butt" thread; but I am wondering about the
difference. It seems the NetBSD default is safer, but I am also no
security wonk. It occurred to me that the man page for FreeBSD could
be incorrect; but I doubt that...it actually strikes me as a choice
made to reflect a balance between options.

Is the default set to no a more secure option? Or is it something that
can be arguH^H^discussed at length?

I do note that the man page for both OSes states that UseLogin
defaults to no, and that if used, X11 forwarding is turned off.
However, in the default config file for sshd, the line for UseLogin is
commented out. Given this latter state of affairs, can I continue to
assume that X11 forwarding is in fact _not_ enabled by default in
FreeBSD?

Oh, and what is the difference between the entry in the ssh_config
file and the sshd_config file? Incoming vs. outbound traffic? That is,
sshd_config accepts incoming X11 forwarding (that is, from a remote
host, to the localhost), and ssh_config allows outbound (from the
localhost to a remote host) X11 forwarding? It sure looks that way...

Hmmmnow I'm thinking that this: serverargs="-nolisten tcp"

in /usr/X11R6/bin/startx/  may make this a bit of a moot pointis
this correct?

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Speaking of this mailing list...

[Joe Altman]

I just noticed Joshua's issue with not receiving email; for some
reason it prompted me to check my subscriptions. I noticed that I have
a bounce score of 1, out of a possible 5.

Does anyone know if it is possible for me to see these bounces? I
surmise that it is not an actual bounce from my [EMAIL PROTECTED]
account. I'm guessing that the source is a virus forgery.

But if, by some chance, it is a genuine series of bounces, I really
need to know about it because something weird is happening.

There are no configuration issues here: procmail either writes to a
folder, or puts email into $DEFAULT; no EXIT 67 stuff to fake bounces,
or anything fancy at all. Additionally, there is not a chance of a 
quota issue causing mail bounces.

Also, does anyone know how long it is until the counter is reset, and
my bounce score goes back to 0?
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Re: lament about freebsd sacrifices

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, Apr 14, 2004 at 11:36:05AM -0700, Peter Leftwich wrote:
> I thought I would post this as something of a warning.  Using
> FreeBSD as a primary, non-dual-boot OS means sacrificing.  Here is a
> partial list of sacrifices, as compared to Microsoft Windows XP:
>
> * flatbed scanner

joe on anna $: du -ch ~/tmp/Scanning-Project/

303M /home/joe/tmp/Scanning-Project/MetMuseumBulletinWinter81-82
2.8M /home/joe/tmp/Scanning-Project/Orion-Arm-Poster-Natl-Geographic
167M /home/joe/tmp/Scanning-Project/MetMuseumBulletinFall1980
198M /home/joe/tmp/Scanning-Project/MetMuseumBulletinWinter83-84
671M /home/joe/tmp/Scanning-Project/
671M total

HP Scanjet 2200C; a USB device.

> * MP3 devices

Creative Labs' Muvo bits are in  5.x, I believe. If I weren't lazy,
I'd use mine.

> Any major sacrifices I've forgotten?

Major sacrifices using Windows XP:

mutt
slrn
exim
xmms
commandline iso generation
windowmaker
KDE
Gnome
RSS using Liferea
Xpdf
ps2*
pdf2*
Xine
Streamtuner, for my local MP3 collection and remote streams
emacs
Wterm
Eterm
ssh and sftp in the base install
text based browsers
bash and the shell in general

Learning, even though I don't hack code, how to edit a makefile and
figure out how to maintain a system by RTFMing and using google, not
to omit documentation installed on my local system.

Learning that running Excessive UT in Linux emulation on FreeBSD 4.9
is like swimming with boots on. <-- I crack me up.

Learning how to ask a smart question.

Learning, period.

Lost time: daily anti-virus signature updates; monthly security
   patches to the base OS and apps duct-taped to the base OS
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Re: CUPS

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Apr 15, 2004 at 05:21:22PM +0800, Robert Storey wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> Having looked at the mind-boggling amount of configuration information
> that is in the Handbook, I decided to just install CUPS. I'm very familiar
> with CUPS, having configured it many times in Linux.
> 
> So I installed the CUPS daemon, and started it by going to
> /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ and renaming the sample file to cups.sh. I even did a
> "./cups.sh start" and that worked - that is, my printer reacted by moving
> the print head, and I could fire up Mozilla and type
> "http://localhost:631"; and then reach the CUPS configuration page. My
> printer is an Epson 24-pin dot-matrix onf /dev/lpt0 - there is a driver
> for that, so no problem. So that should be enough to make it work - at
> least that would do the job under Linux. But attempting to print a test
> page gives me nothing.
> 
> The Handbook says almost zilch about CUPS other than suggesting that one
> should look at cups.org for advice. Of course, cups.org has little to say
> about BSD.
> 
> So I'm wondering what I did wrong? Any help is appreciated.

Do you see any contents in /var/log/cups/ ? Any clues there?

What about /usr/local/etc/cups/? What does your cupsd.conf say about
your printer? I don't have root on my home box just now; but IIRC that
file is the one to alter. The alterations to /etc/printcap will follow
from /usr/local/etc/cups/printers.conf; but I dont' recall if that is
the file to alter, rather than the cupsd.conf file; perhaps you will
need to edit both, or use the web interface for configuration, which
will write the appropriate entries in the files for you.

Can you find any clues in /usr/local/share/doc/cups/? That's where I
found my answers; there and google.
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Re: Cups printing problem

[Joe Altman]

On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 04:30:20PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am trying to print from a FBSD client to an FBSD print server running
> the latest version of Cups.  I can print from the printserver, but not
> across the local network.  I receive this error from the Cups browser
> admin page:
> 
> Brother HL-1440 Foomatic/hl1250 (recommended)
> Description: net-printer
> Location:
> Printer State: processing, accepting jobs.
> "Unable to get printer status (client-error-forbidden)!"
> Device URI: http://10.0.0.175:631/ipp/
> 
> It seems like the server is refusing the connection, is that the problem
> or is it something else.  I tried putting an /etc/cups/cupsd.conf so that
> it will spool on the server, but it did not work.
> 
> Is there something I need to enable or turn on, on the server to make
> network printing work?  Any help is appreciated.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Andy

I am guessing that you need to look into the cupsd.conf, which lives
in your /usr/local/etc/cups/ directory.

Make a backup of this file using cp; then open it in an editor. Look
for the section on Access permissions.

I think you will want to add this:

Allow from 10.0.0.175

Good luck, HTH,

joe
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Re: CUPS

[Joe Altman]

On Sat, Apr 17, 2004 at 11:30:46PM +0900, Rob wrote:
> Robert Storey wrote:
> >On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 10:51:30 -0700
> >"Derrick Ryalls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >First off, I discovered that installing CUPS doesn't create /var/log/cups 
> >- you
> >have to make that directory manually. OK, I did that, and now I have an
> >error_log file, which has a few interesting lines of output:
> >
> >I [16/Apr/2004:15:55:35 +0800] Hint: Do you have ESP Ghostscript installed?
> 
> Do you have the port print/cups-pstoraster installed?
> I think that's the port which installs ESP stuff for you.
> Have a look at the 'distinfo' and 'pkg-plist' in the
> directory of this port.
> 
> I hope that helps.
> 
> Rob.

joe on anna $: apropos esp



cups-calibrate(8)- ESP CUPS Printer Calibration Tool

man cups-calibrate seems interesting.
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Re: Cups printing problem

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:33:29PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Joe:
> 
> Below, please find a copy of my cupsd.conf file.  I'd appreciate it
> if you could look at it and help me get network printing working.  I just
> need something real simple.  10.0.0.175 is the print server, and I want to
> allow all hosts on the local net to print without authentication.

> 
> 
> 
> Order Deny,Allow
> Deny From All
> Allow From 127.0.0.1
> 
> 

What is the IP of the machine on the lan from which you wish to print
to 10.0.0.175?

Add that IP to the section I've snipped above, so that section looks
like this:


Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1
Allow from 10.0.0.X? <--substitute the number for the host for X?

I think that is all you will need to do.

IOW: 10.0.0.X? --> prints to --> 10.0.0.175

Here is why I think this:


Order Deny,Allow
Deny From All
Allow From 127.0.0.1 <-- equal to 192.168.1.100
Allow from 192.168.1.102 <-- dual boot w/ KDE Office


Printing works fine w/ the dual boot; KDE Office finds the HP just
fine using IPP.

If this doesnt' work, then I dont' know.

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Re: newbie question: Gnome 2.6 upgrade

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:03:16AM -0700, Joshua Lokken wrote:
> * Lucas Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-04-22 11:32]:
> > 
> > The problem only seems to be with X11.  I tried running several commands in
> > console mode that I can normally run from any location and they all worked
> > fine.  so far startx seems to be the only thing that won't run like it used
> 
> This could be for naught, but what does 'xinit' do for you?
> 
> > to.  I read something about shells having to be rehashed to update the PATH
> > lines?  I run in bash if that makes a difference.
> >
> > If I'm not mistaken, you only need to run rehash with a csh not sh/bash.
> > Besides, you said the machine rebooted.  The path should be correct then.
> 
> Right and right.  Rehash is a [t]csh builtin, not present in Bourne
> shells, and yep, if the machine was rebooted (or the user logged out),
> then the point is moot.

hash is in bash.

There's a slogan in there, somewhere...
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Re: Freebsd machine as a wireless access point ?

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 07:55:38AM -0500, Darryl Hoar wrote:
> I have a spare PC with Freebsd installed on it.  Can I configure
> this machine to be a wireless access point ?

Check out the handbook on your machine, in /usr/share/doc/ for the
chapter on advanced networking; specifically the page labelled
wireless.html.
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Re: Upgrade gone bad, please help

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 09:16:52AM -0500, Joseph Koenig wrote:
> I have a system that was running FreeBSD 4.3. At the time I built the
> system, I compiled a custom kernel, but at this time, I do not need the
> modifications I made to the kernel. Turns out I never really did need them.
> So, I went to upgrade the machine to 4.9 using sysinstall. All went well,
> except when I rebooted, it says it can't find the kernel. It then boots up,
> but nothing works. I can log into the system at the physical machine, but no
> network connections work, even things such as "top" and "ps" give me 'Out of
> Memory' errors. The machine has 1 GB of RAM. I did make a complete backup of
> the system before upgrading. I also have my previous kernel. Will it help to
> reinstall the previous kernel? If so, how do I do that? Thanks,

There should be a bootable kernel, in / , no? IOW, if you didn't
remove them, you should have kernel.GENERIC and kernel.old; have you
tried booting either of those?
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Re: Upgrade gone bad, please help

[Joe Altman]

You should be able to hit the space bar at the appropriate time, drop
to a prompt that consists of one word:

ok

then, type ?

you'll see a list of options, among them unload...so type:

unload kernel

then type:

load kernel.GENERIC

and you should be able to complete a boot...OTOH, there are
(probably?) many ways to do what you will need to do.

BTW: did you copy the list on your reply to me? Its' a really good
idea to do so, as it may be instructive for us all; and there may be a
better way to do what your needs dictate; and someone may offer it.

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:51:01AM -0500, Joseph Koenig wrote:
> They are both there actually. However, my question is, what do I need to do
> to boot from them? I was able to get the network working on the machine, and
> someone on the list recommended doing a CVSup of my source, then build
> world, then build new kernel, as my source is most likely out of date (In
> fact, I'm sure it was). Does that sound reasonable? Thanks
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Re: updated ports tree

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 10:04:06PM +, Killermink ! wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I am about to (re)install FreeBSD 5.2.1, and wish to make sure I have the 
> latest ports afterwards.  I do not really wish to install the whole ports 
> tree from sysinstall as disk space is at a premium, and i will (soon) have 
> a fast internet connection so seems pointless when i am only going to 
> install like 10 ports. Also, the ports tree on the 5.2.1 ISO is out of date 
> now.
> 
> I have read the manual over and over, but cannot fathom how I can make a 
> port without the whole ports tree being installed...
> 
> Is it possible to make a port in this way, and how is it done?

If disk space is at a premium with an out of date ports tree, and
ports were likely added in the interim, then disk space will still be
an issue with a current ports tree, no?

So you may want to:

1) use packages, and skip ports entirely

or

2) install the ports tree, and update it as a part of a make world
   process.
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Re: Upgrade gone bad, please help

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 01:37:59PM -0500, Joseph Koenig wrote:
> At this point, I have upgraded my src as it was out of date before I
> upgraded via sysinstall. The system is up and running, although far from
> stable. My question is, at this point, have I done enough damage to
> everything that using sysinstall to upgrade is out of the question, or can I
> reboot my old kernel and try the sysinstall since my src is now up to date?
> Thanks,
> 
> Joe

I cannot answer the question about damage; but I do recall something
about sysinstall being deprecated for upgrades? Does the list have an
opinion on this?

I am sorry that damage recovery is not something I have a
comprehensive tutorial on; and I dont' know if I can recommend
anything actually useful. If you have networking set up, and can reach
things on the internet, I'd say go for a cvs oriented upgrade and
utterly skip sysinstall for upgrades. At this point, I just don't know
enough about what might be going on with your system.

Assuming that you have the cvs port installed, this may be what you
need:

>From /usr/src/Makefile

# 1. `cd /usr/src'
# 2.  `make buildworld'
# 3.  `make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC).
# 4.  `make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE' (default is GENERIC).
# 5.  `reboot' (in single user mode: boot -s from the loader prompt).
# 6.  `mergemaster -p'
# 7.  `make installworld'
# 8.  `mergemaster'
# 9.  `reboot

Before you run all of this, you should run 'make update'.

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Re: Items missing from the handbook and/or FAQs.

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 12:37:00PM -0700, Joe Rhett wrote:
> Sorry, it's been quite a while since I've played with FreeBSD and some
> things are taking a while to get used to.  The configuration system has
> come a long way... but the documentation seems to be lacking a bit.

http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/index.html

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-doc/
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Re: updated ports tree

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Apr 23, 2004 at 11:41:36PM +, Killermink ! wrote:
> I see what your saying and i suppose I have two points:
> 
> 1) Can you install a port without installing the ports tree?

I see that you and I are using terms that aren't really at odds, in
what we mean; but are at odds in what they are normally used for.

Let me explain: you are, in your query, and in your previous email,
talking about packages. What you want to do is download a pre-compiled
binary of each application you wish to use, and install each one.

So no, you cannot install *from* the ports tree without installing the
ports tree. But you *can* install a pre-compiled binary, entirely
bypassing the ports tree.

> 2) If you must install the ports tree, what is the best way to keep it up 
> to date?

AFAIK, the best way is the only way: via a make update/kernel/world
process run out of /usr/src/ and employing cvs. I suggest cd'ing to
/usr/src/ and reading the Makefile there; it is well-commented.

> I am still new at this, and can't seem to find packages for all the
> ports in the tree...

You will not find packages for any port in the ports tree. Have you
looked at the various mirrors for the binary you wish to install?
That's where you will find the packages you seek. There, or perhaps on
one of your 5.x CDs?

However, it occurs to me that the pre-compiled binaries might take up
as much room as the ports tree and the distiles they fetch, if the
packages are large enough. I'd bet that this is an FAQ, of sorts; and
that someone might actually take a stab at answering it.

They probably do not: my /usr/ports/ tree, without distfiles, comes to
about 300 and some few meg out of a gigabyte...sheesh:

61M/usr/ports/distfiles/teTeX
87M/usr/ports/distfiles/gnome2

I'm almost sorry I looked.

HTH, Killermink; let me know if I've made things clearer or foggier,
please.

> Original Message Follows
> From: Joe Altman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: Killermink! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: updated ports tree
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 14:23:37 -0400
> 
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2004 at 10:04:06PM +, Killermink ! wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am about to (re)install FreeBSD 5.2.1, and wish to make sure I have the
> > latest ports afterwards.  I do not really wish to install the whole ports
> > tree from sysinstall as disk space is at a premium, and i will (soon) 
> have
> > a fast internet connection so seems pointless when i am only going to
> > install like 10 ports. Also, the ports tree on the 5.2.1 ISO is out of 
> date
> > now.
> >
> > I have read the manual over and over, but cannot fathom how I can make a
> > port without the whole ports tree being installed...
> >
> > Is it possible to make a port in this way, and how is it done?
> 
> If disk space is at a premium with an out of date ports tree, and
> ports were likely added in the interim, then disk space will still be
> an issue with a current ports tree, no?
> 
> So you may want to:
> 
> 1) use packages, and skip ports entirely
> 
> or
> 
> 2) install the ports tree, and update it as a part of a make world
>process.
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Re: Creating ISO image question

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 11:43:56PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi arden,
> 
> Tks for your advice.
>  
> > im guessing this is what you mean ?
> > 
> > mkisofs -r -J -o cd_image.iso dir/
> 
> I made following test without result;
> 
> $ mkisofs -r -J -o cd_image.iso
> /usr/home/user-A/Storage-040517
> ...
> ...
> mkisofs: Joliet tree sort failed.
> 
> The result I expect to have is after burning a folder
> named 'Storage-040517' found on the CD under which are
> directories and subdirectories.

mkisofs -o cd_image.iso  dir/ ?

I know that at the top of the mkisofs man page it says that the -o
option can come first; but the examples at the bottom of the man page
indicate to put the name of the output file first.

When I run mkisofs, I put it first; the basic syntax I offer above
works for me.

Generally I use:

mkisofs -o .iso -J -R -P "Joe" -sysid "BACKUP" -V "" -l 
backup/

Almost always, I use the same name for the  and for the
.
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Re: Help, GTK and my ports system broke!

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:37:00PM -0500, Doug Poland wrote:
>
> I may just blow away all ports, and start from scratch.

Could you not re-cvsup, and then try to build world, before blowing
away your ports? Isn't blowing it all away a bit extreme?
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Does anyone recognize this name or IP?

[Joe Altman]

62.219.120.133 AKA bzq-120-133.red.bezeqint.net AKA:

telnet bzq-120-133.red.bezeqint.net 25
Trying 62.219.120.133...
Connected to bzq-120-133.red.bezeqint.net.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 codedump.dyn.ee ESMTP Postfix
ehlo chthonic.com
250-codedump.dyn.ee

The machine (or a machine) at that IP has just recently started a spam
run forging my [EMAIL PROTECTED] address; I think the trojan obtained it is
via this list because:

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Is the forged From: in a sample; additionally, the individual seems to
be running Postfix. It indicates a modicum of clue; however, the
individual is also:

5.0 RCVD_IN_NJABL_PROXY RBL: NJABL: sender is an open proxy
1.1 RCVD_IN_SORBS_HTTP RBL: SORBS: sender is open HTTP proxy server

Wonderful. He's cracked, I guess. Anyway, if anyone knows who
codedump.dyn.ee is, I'd appreciate a pointer so that I can
pok^H^Halert him.

Normally, I'd not bother the list with this; but as I say, my email
address is the envelope-from in the run.
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Re: Creating ISO image question

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 01:29:16PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> 
> Tks for your advice.
> 
> - snip-
> > mkisofs -o cd_image.iso  > page> dir/ ?
> 
> Applying following command lines
> 1)
> # mkisofs -o cdimage.raw -R
> /usr/home/user-A/document-AAA
> 
> 2)
> # mkisofs -R -o cdimage.raw
> /usr/home/user-A/document-AAA
> 
> 3)
> # mkisofs -o cdimage.raw -R -pathspec
> /usr/home/user-A/document-AAA
> 
> all having same result. The path has not been copied
> to the cdimage, only the subdirectories under
> 'document-AAA' copied.

Of course; that's what you told mkisofs to do.

> If adding -J to the command line, cdimage can't be
> created with warning 'mkisofs: Joliet tree sort
> failed'
> 
> - snip -
>  
> > Generally I use:
> > 
> > mkisofs -o .iso -J -R -P "Joe" -sysid
> > "BACKUP" -V "" -l backup/
> > 
> > Almost always, I use the same name for the
> >  and for the
> > .
> 
> $ mkisofs -o cdimage.raw -J -R -P "Stephen" -sysid
> "BACKUP" -V "/Storage-040517/" -l
> /usr/home/satimis/Storage-040517/
> 
> 
> Plug and Process-Has the Era of Utility Computing
> Finally Arrived.html have the same Joliet name

So rename them.
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Re: CDrom problems

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, May 25, 2004 at 09:25:34AM -0500, Donald Szatkowski wrote:
> It appears that there are quite a few problems with basic setup and cdrom.

What does this mean? Please elaborate: do you mean that setup
beginning with sysinstall is problematic, in that you cannot use your
cdrom drive during sysinstall?

> Could someone please post a copy of associated files to give an example of 
> setup? The kernel.GENERIC is okay for root access to the cdrom, but there are 
> problems allowing general users access.

This appears to be the well-known FAQ about providing access to the CD
drive for non-root users.

Perhaps this will help:

Go to /usr/share/doc/ on your machine, and look for the FAQ
directory. In that document, you will find that chapter nine, question
9.22, is titled "How do I let ordinary users mount floppies, CDROMs
and other removable media?" Since the document in question is an html
document, you will be able to use a browser.

> Also, could someone address the question of ATAPI compliance of
> devices?

I'm not sure what this means; what question of compliance?
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Consoles: Toggling Internal vs. Serial during boot

[Joe Altman]

The relevant system specs: FBSD 4.10, one serial port.

I've read the docs:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/serialconsole-setup.html

I am pretty sure I understand it all, but for one part. I'm not quite
clear on how to grab the internal console once serial bits are set
up. What I mean is that I'll compile the kernel with:

device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x30 irq 4

and in /boot.config use:

either -D or -Dh or one of the -P options. But in any of these, I'll
end up with only serial access once in kernel.

Section 17.6.6 Changing Console from the Boot Loader seems to be the
relevant section. Is it really as simple as putting

set console=vidconsole

into /boot/loader.rc? I don't think it is; but if so, what do I type
(and when) to grab backthe video console? Is this a job for
loader.conf and flags, at some stage in the process of booting?

In the situation available to me, I can have access to a KVM and a
console server. So, I'm thinking ahead, and planning to have the video
console available to me if I break something. I'm pretty sure I won't
need it and can rely on the serial console output; but is there a way
to toggle (during boot blocks or boot loader) away from serial to
video output?
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Re: Install hangs with Toshiba 2.5" drive

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 05:12:11PM +0100, Robert Downes wrote:
> Running FreeBSD 5.0 installer, I see a few messages along the lines of 
> "configured IRQ 3 is not in bitmap of irqs" and then the following pair 
> of lines:

Sounds familiar.

> ad0: READ command timeout tag=0 serv=0 - resetting
> ata0: resetting devices ..

Uh-huh.

> And then the system seems to jam, the drive light still on, and no 
> further progress is made even after several minutes.

Yep.

> Does anyone know what would cause this?

Nope; I can't figure it out either. My craptop is a Gagway, and throws
all kinds of erroror messages, depending on the version of FBSD I use.

Oddly, Fedora and NetBSD install just fine on the Gagway. X works with
both, smooth as silk. Sound under Fedora; never tried it with NetBSD.

> The version of FreeBSD I'm trying to install is 5.0. Would creating
> a newer install CD solve this  problem?

I would go to a newer 5.x, if nothing else. I did notice that the
error messages decreased in a later 5.x than yours. No joy; but it was
a step in the right direction.

> The drive I'm trying to install to is a Toshiba MK8025GAS, 2.5" notebook 
> drive. I've successfully installed Windows XP on it to test it, so the 
> drive does not seem to be the problem.
> 
> Any ideas?

Use what works, that is what I decided.
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Re: Epson CX5400 scanner

[Joe Altman]

NB: Reply-To: set to -questions.

On Tue, Jun 01, 2004 at 09:19:14AM -0700, Shone Earl wrote:
> I have just installed 4.10 and i am very happy with
> it, all of my hardware works except for the scanner
> portion of my epson cx5400 mfp.  anyone know how to
> get the scanner working?  I have to keep mandrake
> installed just so I can use my scanner, and I'd rather not.

Have you tried installing Sane and XSane from the ports tree?

You can find the supported hardware for epson here:

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html#S-EPSON

XSane is here:

http://xsane.org/
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Re: Leaving a server on all day

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 01:21:01PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> 
> I have my desktop configured to run as a server and app server for a thin
> client laptop.  Will running it all day without suspend mode use a lot of
> power?
> 
> Is it true that the heat buildup in a home system (rather than a heavily
> fanned commercial system) will kill the drives faster and this is a good
> reason to turn it off during the day when I am not home?

Take the side off of your case, turn the open side toward the wall,
with some space between it and the wall. Especially during the summer.

I don't put my box on the floor, if you were wondering. I have an
Athlon 1.2, a Plextor CD/RW, and multiple drives in the 7200 rpm
range; and of course a gpu, and the psu, and the sound card...they all
generate heat. The kicker: I'm on the top floor of my building in a
treeless area. I'd rather the heat spill out the side, than have it
pulled out the psu or the fan on the back. I've seen rigs that have
hoses which pull the heat out of the box, and pump it into the wall.
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Re: Leaving a server on all day

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 07:51:51PM +0100, Jonathon McKitrick wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 08, 2004 at 02:42:16PM -0400, Joe Altman wrote:
> : Take the side off of your case, turn the open side toward the wall,
> 
> Why against the wall?  So nothing damages it?

Yes; spills, flying objects, whatever. Most importantly, it's not on
the floor, and securely on my desk. I deal w/ the noise by keeping the
fan on my Enermax low; it has an adjustable spin rate via a knob on
the back. Drives are noisy, with no way around that problem.

> : with some space between it and the wall. Especially during the summer.
> 
> My setup has a fan in the back, and also one on the side.  Is that close
> enough?

It's one way to do it. Whether or not it's enough is up to you.

> : I don't put my box on the floor, if you were wondering. I have an
> 
> Mine is in the CPU slot of a tiny computer desk.

Well, the thing for me is to keep the side open, so the heat spills
out.

> : Athlon 1.2, a Plextor CD/RW, and multiple drives in the 7200 rpm
> 
> That reminds me: is a CD/RW a feasible data backup device?  I've never used
> mine.

For me, yes it is. Tapes are, or were, too expensive. The CD/RW I
purchased was, two years ago, about the same price as current DVD/RW
drives. I'd go with a DVD nowadays; pay a little more, but have Gigs
of backup space rather than Megs of storage.

> : range; and of course a gpu, and the psu, and the sound card...they all
> : generate heat. The kicker: I'm on the top floor of my building in a
> : treeless area. I'd rather the heat spill out the side, than have it
> 
> I feel your pain.  I'm third floor in an old house with no A/C.

No A/C? Sheesh. Oh, BTW: if it's an old house, do yourself a favor:
purchase a UPS. There is a webpage somewhere that lists models of UPS
units supported by FreeBSD...I forget where.
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Re: Scanner HP 5200C: can someone please help me? I'm lost!

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, Jun 09, 2004 at 10:50:21PM +0900, Rob Lahaye wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have an HP 5200C scanner, attached over USB.
> OS is FreeBSD 4-Stable.
> 
> In the kernel configuration file, I have this for usb support:
> device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required)
> device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
> device  uhci# UHCI PCI->USB interface
> device  usb # USB Bus (required)
> device  umass   # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
> device  uscanner# Scanners
> 
> Recompiled everything etc. etc.
> 
> Now I'm trying to get through the information on this scanner & FreeBSD.
> I'm quite familiar with managing FreeBSD, but here I'm totally lost.

Have you installed Xsane? If not, I recommend it. Of, if you prefer
some other GUI, there may be one bundled with Gnome or KDE. Then, you
should read the docs for Xsane or whatever GUI you choose. The docs
for Xsane will point you to Sane, and its docs, so follow those
pointers. I have one of these x200c thingies, and they do work with
Sane/Xsane.  Or at least, mine does.

You can check here for your scanner:

http://www.sane-project.org/sane-backends.html

> I get this:
> 
> # sane-find-scanner
> [...]
> found USB scanner (UNKNOWN vendor and product) at device /dev/uscanner0
> 
> # xscanimage /dev/uscanner0
> 
> pops up a dialog that says
>  "Failed to open device '/dev/uscanner0'. Invalid argument".
> 
> # xscanimage
> [xscanimage] No scanners were identified. If you were expecting something
>   different, check that the scanner is plugged in, turned on and
>   detected by sane-find-scanner (if appropriate). Please read
>   the documentation which came with this software (README, FAQ,
>   manpages).
> 
> In various manuals (too many talk about linux only) I learn that
> "I should configure/tell the kernel about the vendor and product".
> 
> I know how to (re)compile the kernel etc. but how do I tell the
> kernel that I have an HP 5200C scanner?

If you read the documents, you will find that there is at least one
configuration file you will need to edit for your scanner. I don't
have access to my box right now, but IIRC the file is in
/usr/local/etc/ ?

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The documents tree(s)...

[Joe Altman]

uname -a:

FreeBSD vox.chthonixia.net 5.4-STABLE FreeBSD 5.4-STABLE #0: Thu Jun
9 13:59:19 EDT 2005
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/VOX  i386

Today, I was thinking of upgrading my sources, to see if the new
Hi-Res console modes were available yet. I didn't see them in the
update, but I did notice that some files were being dumped into this
directory (IIRC):

/usr/src/share/doc

Now, my docs tree has a distinct file in /etc:

cvsupfile-doc

So what, I asked myself, are the files in share/doc?

Upon looking, I find various files, including Makefiles...for instance
(and relevant to a separate issue I am trying to solve):

ll share/doc/papers/devfs/

1090302 -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel181 Feb 15 15:12 Makefile
1088608 -rw-r--r--   1 root  wheel  50718 Feb 18  2002 paper.me

This paper exists in /usr/share/doc/papers in a .gz state. Is that the
only place it is supposed to be? The Makefile doesn't give me a clue
about where else it might be installed. Is there yet another step
(automated, and a part of the make update process), not evident to me,
that might render it (and other files in the /usr/src subdirs) human
readable, and up to date?

It appears to me that the make update process I run should be doing
everything WRT these files.

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The perennial vfs.usermount query

[Joe Altman]

1)If this:

$: more /etc/sysctl.conf

# $FreeBSD: src/etc/sysctl.conf,v 1.8 2003/03/13 18:43:50 mux Exp $
#
#  This file is read when going to multi-user and its contents piped
# thru ``sysctl'' to adjust kernel values.  ``man 5 sysctl.conf'' for
# details.
#
# Uncomment this to prevent users from seeing information about
#processes that are being run under another UID.
#security.bsd.see_other_uids=0

vfs.usermount=1

2)  And, --> after a reboot <--, this:

$: sysctl -a | grep vfs.usermount
vfs.usermount: 0

Ergo, I get this:

cd9660: /dev/acd0: Operation not permitted 

When trying this:

mount -t cd9660 /dev/acd0 /usr/home/joe/mountpoint/

Then my question is: wtfoobar am I doing wrong?

Additional info:

$: more /etc/devfs.conf

permacd00660
linkacd0cdrom

Speculating, I assume that the BUGS section of sysctl.conf(5) applies,
somehow.

NB: the page covering this in the FAQ at freebsd.org says run this:

sysctl -w vfs.usermount=1

The man page for sysctl on 5.4 says this:

COMPATIBILITY
 The -w option has been deprecated and is silently ignored.

Is the -w flag only for 4.x installations?

I'm pretty sure I'm going to see the answer to this as soon as I hit
send.

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Re: The perennial vfs.usermount query

[Joe Altman]

On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 12:00:08PM +0200, Emanuel Strobl wrote:
> 
> Nothing. But if you want it persistant you have to put it in loader.conf or 
> sysctl.conf, depending on the kind of sysctl (loader tunable or runtime 
> tunable).

Sorry; I wasn't clear. vfs.usermount=1 is set in /etc/sysctl.conf...

I was not aware that this was tunable in loader.conf.

Thanks for your help.

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Upgraded Perl; and lo, errors cause exim to fail

[Joe Altman]

Is anyone else seeing errorors like this:

/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libperl.so" not found, required by "exim"

after upgrading Perl when prompted by portversion?

I notice that ld-elf.so.1 has two versions:

55 -r-xr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  153244 Jun  3 14:05 ld-elf.so.1
54 -r-xr-xr-x   1 root  wheel  153244 Apr  5 14:58 ld-elf.so.1.old

yet, of course, they do differ.

Exim uses (IIRC) pcre; but that doesn't seem to be implicated. Anyone
have any suggestions for fixing this, other than de- and then re-
installing Exim and/or Perl?

Now that I think of it a bit more, perhaps the answer is in this
direction:

use.perl system or use.perl port

uname -a
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27 14:40:02 EDT 2005
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Re: Upgraded Perl; and lo, errors cause exim to fail

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 01:08:58PM -0400, Louis LeBlanc wrote:
> 
> Did you remember to update the ports that have Perl as a dependency with
> the perl-after-upgrade script?  You can find it in lang/perl5.8/work/
> after the build (it is kept in lang/perl/files/).  Make sure you read
> the script documentation (embedded) and double check for anything that
> might have been forgotten.

/smacks self on forehead. Really, really hard.

Ahh...all better now.

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Re: Upgraded Perl; and lo, errors cause exim to fail

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 05:52:58PM -0400, Trey Sizemore wrote:
> 
> When you say embedded, what do you mean?  How do I go about reading the
> documentation so that I can find the correct syntax for the command?

You can look at the man page. There are two basic commands, outlined
in the man page:

man perl-after-upgrade



SYNOPSIS
 perl-after-upgrade
 perl-after-upgrade -f
 perl-after-upgrade -v


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Re: removable usb media don't present devices to mount

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Oct 21, 2005 at 12:01:00PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>4. Re: removable usb media don't present devices to mount
>   (Ryan Zeigler)
> 
> --
> 
> On Thursday 20 October 2005 04:29 pm, you wrote:
> > Ryan Zeigler wrote:
> > >I'm using FreeBSD 6.0-rc1, and I'm having trouble with removable usb
> > > memory drives.  I plug the device in, and get this from dmesg:
> > >
> > >umass0: LEXAR MEDIA JUMPDRIVE2, rev 2.00/1.25, addr 2
> > >
> > >There is no mention at all of /dev/da0, which is, as I understand it, the
> > >device that is traditionally presented to mount.  usbdevs sees the device,
> > >and gives this output.
> > >
> > >port 8 addr 2: high speed, power 70 mA, config 1, JUMPDRIVE2(0xa300),
> > > LEXAR MEDIA(0x05dc), rev 1.25
> > >
> > >This occurs both with GENERIC kernels, and a custom kernel that I
> > > configured. The custom configuration is listed here:
> > >http://www.dickinson.edu/~zeiglerr/STRMKERNEL

That kernel config in the relevant parts is almost identical to mine,
and I'm using a SanDisk USB thingum w/o problem.

> > >da0: 250MB (512000 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 250C)
> > >(da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): Synchronize cache failed, status == 0x10, scsi
> > > status == 0x0

Looking via google, I see some mention of the "Synchronize cache
failed" text; no resolution(s), though.

> > >One last little bit of interest, booting hangs immediately before
> > > attempting to mount / if I boot with the device plugged in.  Booting
> > > continues normally when I unplug the device.  I am not sure if this is
> > > significant.

WAG: is this indicative of an interrupt storm?

> > How are you mounting the drive?  Here is what works for me:
> > mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt
> >
> > Rem
> 
> Same type error.  I do not have /dev/da0s1 either.  Also, on a whim, I tried 
> mknod /dev/da0.  That didn't work.

Take a look at it via /stand/sysinstall -> Fdisk? Maybe it will show
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USB Double Bulk Pipe devices

[Joe Altman]

Please, would someone give me an example of such a device? I've looked
via google, yahoo, etcetera; and find no obvious examples.

Thank you.

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Re: Wireless Card Suggestion from freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 112, Issue 63

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On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 12:00:49PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Today's Topics:
> 
>4. Wireless Card Suggestion (Tim Holmes)
>5. Re: Wireless Card Suggestion (Peter Clutton)
>
> --
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:07:12 -0500
> From: Tim Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Wireless Card Suggestion
> 
 
>
> I have a friend who's using a Linksys card, but he's uses a Linksys router.
> The one he uses is 54Mbps, and I've seen a number of 108Mbps and 125Mbps.
> Since I'm using this for a gateway, should I go for a card with higher Mbps?
> Or do you really think that will make a difference?
>
> --
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:21:29 +1100
> From: Peter Clutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Wireless Card Suggestion
> 
> I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that the speed is
> somewhat reliant on the protocol. For instance, the older 802.11a/b 
> are like 11Mbps, whereas the newer 802.11g runs at 54Mbps.

I read a rant somewhere or another about the Atheros cards; and the
ranter was saying something about the chips using 2 channels...does
anyone on this list know if that alleged use of 2 channels is real,
and if so, is the reason 108 Mbps is on the box?

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Re: USB Problems with Scanjet 3400c, from: freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 113, Issue 7

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 04:46:10PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>   20. USB Problems with Scanjet 3400c (Blue Raccoon)
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> 
> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 15:35:53 +0100
> From: Blue Raccoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: USB Problems with Scanjet 3400c
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am VERY new to FreeBSD and am having serious problems setting up my HP 
> Scanjet 3400c. I installed the SANE back-end and it cannot find any
> scanners. 

So I take it the above means that sane-find-scanner returns no
information on your scanner, and scanimage -L will also fail? (BTW:
you may need some sort of frontend AKA GUI; something like the Sane
Project's frontend, or XSane's frontend).

I just checked /usr/local/etc/sane.d/ and there seems to be no backend
for this scanner, IFF the backend for this model of 3400 is
sane-niash[1]. In dll.conf, there is a line for niash; I suggest
trying to put this after the "niash" in the dll.conf file:

 :/dev/uscanner0

so that you have this line:

niash::/dev/uscanner0

then reboot, to see if it works. You can read about it in the man page
for dll.conf, sane-dll.

I think this might work, as there is an entry in /usr/local/lib/sane/:

~ $: grep -i niash /usr/local/lib/sane/*
Binary file /usr/local/lib/sane/libsane-niash.so matches
Binary file /usr/local/lib/sane/libsane-niash.so.1 matches

But I dont' know, since my HP is a 2200C.

> I don't think SANE is to blame though, because the dmesg command shows (among 
> other things) this:
> 
> uscanner0: Hew product 0x0405, rev 1.00/0.00, addr 2
> uscanner0: setting config no failed
> device_attach: uscanner0 attach returned 6
> uhub0: port 2, set config at addr 2 failed
> uhub0: device problem (STALLED), disabling port 2

And you know that your USB port works, because you use XP on this
machine, correct?

> There is no point in loading the scanner from the command line, because 
> 'kldload uscanner' brings up:
> 
> kldload: can't load uscanner: File exists

You will also need to set up device bits, in /etc/devfs.conf:

#Scanner
permuscanner0   

> I compiled a kernel (just to see if I could), but the GENERIC kernel also 
> chokes on the scanner. I did include 
> 
> device usb
> device uhci
> device ohci
> device uscanner

That should be all you need.

> in my kernel though.
> 
> I am running FreeBSD 6.0 (release) on a 4 year old PC (900 Mhz Pentium).
> And the scanner is fine, by the way (No problems with XP).

I suggest here:  
and here: .


[1] The Sane Project indicates that it is new; so perhaps that backend
has not yet made it into the distribution? I don't know...
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Re: USB Problems with Scanjet 3400c

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 09:25:12PM +0100, Roland Smith wrote:
> 
> You should verify that /usr/local/etc/sane.d/dll.conf has the line 
> 
> niash
> 
> in it.

It did exist on my 5.4 machinebut then:

> You cut put a line like
> 
> usb /dev/uscanner0
> 
> in /usr/local/etc/sane.d/niash.conf

Roland, do you know if niash.conf is in, and/or unique to, the 6.x
release? I do not see it on my 5.4 machine. Since sane is a port, I
don't think it would be in one release, but not another. It is a new
sane backend, so perhaps it is not yet in the ports tree, somehow?

Here is pkg-plist from sane-backends on 5.4:

etc/sane.d/ma1509.conf
etc/sane.d/matsushita.conf
etc/sane.d/microtek.conf
etc/sane.d/microtek2.conf
etc/sane.d/mustek.conf
etc/sane.d/mustek_usb.conf
etc/sane.d/nec.conf
etc/sane.d/net.conf
etc/sane.d/pie.conf
etc/sane.d/plustek.conf

And the sane page:



From: 

About HP3300c SANE backend

This project is about writing a Linux SANE backend for the HP3300c USB
color scanner. Support for other scanners with very similar chipsets,
like the HP3400c, HP4300c and the Agfa Touch is also planned.

Operating System: All BSD Platforms (FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD/Apple Mac
OS X), All POSIX (Linux/BSD/UNIX-like OSes), FreeBSD, Linux, NetBSD,
OpenBSD License: GNU General Public License (GPL)

Is it perhaps sufficient to create the niash.conf file? I wonder,
because some of the conf files look like they may have aspects that
are necessary for the correct functioning of the scanner.

> > I come straight from Windows XP. Perhaps I bit off a bit more than I can 
> > chew...  Can this be solved by a newbie?

Raccoon...I think it can be solved; but it may depend on whether or
not there is a backend; or, perhaps, if the dll.conf file entry is
sufficient. I do not know which, if either, is the case.

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Re: USB Problems with Scanjet 3400c

[Joe Altman]

On Wed, Nov 16, 2005 at 11:05:56AM +0100, Blue Raccoon wrote:
> Roland, Joe,
> 
> According to the SANE site their backend should provide 'complete' support. 
> NIASH is required, but since 'niash' is an entry in the SANE config file I 
> assume it is incorporated. 

My apologies; but I'll have to plead ignorance at this point...I
simply don't know how to address this.

Blue, you may wish to query the freebsd-multimedia list, if you have
not already; you could also try the sane lists, and I think it would
be advisable to ask the maintainer of the sane-backends on FreeBSD
what he (or she) thinks. The Makefile for sane-backends has an address
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; I don't know that he is the current maintainer,
but I'd bet someone on the multimedia list will know who is currently
handling that port.

Best of luck, 

Joe

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Re: Mach kernel and Unix over 68k

[Joe Altman]

On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 07:55:48PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>   28. [OT] Re: Mach kernel and Unix over 68k : well before OS X
>   (Roland Smith)
>
> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 19:47:13 +0100
> From: Roland Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [OT] Re: Mach kernel and Unix over 68k : well before OS X
> 
> Apple had its own UNIX running on 68k hardware since 1998: A/UX. See
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A/UX

I think since at least 1988; Panix was around '89, using A/UX on a
machine in NYC.

If I recall the legend correctly, it was a single machine in someone's
basement.

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MP3 voice recorders and FreeBSD

[Joe Altman]

Greetings...

Sometime in September, I plan to purchase a voice recorder capable of
MP3 recording.

The device here:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=55-603-406&DEPA=0

Is similar in nature to what I wish to purchase; it may not be this
device, but similar.

Does anyone have any experience with any such devices with FreeBSD? I
don't see any such devices listed in the usual place.

Thanks for any assistance...

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Re: portupgrade, portsdb -U failing, ruby dumping core

[Joe Altman]

On Fri, Sep 03, 2004 at 10:29:23PM -0500, Jeff Hinrichs wrote:
> Dan Finn wrote:
> 


I thought I had seen an email to the list that the bug was found; and
a fix committed. I waited a couple of hours, ran make update,
etcetera; and this resulted:

# portsdb -Uu
Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please
wait.. Done.
done
[Updating the portsdb  in /usr/ports ... - 11736
port entries found
.1000.2000.3000.4000.5000.6000.7000.8000/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587:
[BUG] Bus Error
ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd4]

Abort (core dumped)

Anyway, it's near 12:30 EST; that's about 4:30 or so UTC/GMT.

I'd file a bug report; but it seems redundant at this point. And I'm
not sure where I would send it.

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Re: [another "me too"] Re: portindex/portindexdb

[Joe Altman]

On Mon, Sep 06, 2004 at 09:20:14AM +0200, Nico Meijer wrote:
> Hi Donald,
> 
> >Nico - I suggest you try it again tomorrow. I thought I had it fixed 
> >yesterday. Then I re-cvsup'd today and redid my things. Ruby18 is 
> >again seg faulting for me. Not going into a loop and continuously 
> >seg faulting, but bad enough.
> 
> After cvsupping my ports tree, running portindex (not portindexdb!) and 
> portsdb -u (which gave core dumps) all is well. No more 'bus errors'.
> 
> portindex seems like a wonderful tool, so I'm keeping it around.

Sigh:

on voip in /var/db # portsdb -Uu 
Updating the ports index ... Generating INDEX.tmp - please
wait.. Done.
done
[Updating the portsdb  in /usr/ports ... - 11736
port entries found
.1000.2000.3000.4000.
5000.6000.7000.8000
/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587:
[BUG] Bus Error
ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd4]

Abort (core dumped)

I'm thinking, at this point, that I'm seeing something
hardware-related. Good thing I'm replacing voip w/ new hardware and
moving to 5.3, I guess.
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Re: [another "me too"] Re: portindex/portindexdb

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 06:32:23AM +0200, Nico Meijer wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> 
> >Sigh:
> 
> Lighten up! ;-)

Hehthanks, I will.

> >/usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/portsdb.rb:587:
> >[BUG] Bus Error
> >ruby 1.8.2 (2004-07-29) [i386-freebsd4]
> 
> Have you tried replacing the portsdb-sequence with `portindex && 
> portindexdb`?

Not yet; but I will. I was reading over the thread(s) mentioned by
racerx last night.

> So:
> 
> - cvsup (or whatever tool you use)
> - portindex
> - portindexdb
> - portversion -vL = (or whatever switches you use)
> 
> The upside to using portindex is that it merges changes instead of 
> building the entire index every time. So your first run will take quite 
> some time, but your following runs will run quite a bit faster.

AhI see now the advantage. That is nice. Thanks.

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Re: [another "me too"] Re: portindex/portindexdb

[Joe Altman]

On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 07:24:49AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> 
> Another workaround is simply to set:
> 
> PORTS_DBDRIVER=bdb1_hash

This is the Berkeley, AKA Sleepycat, bdb? I ask because I am also
(suddenly) encountering the famous Exim "Failed to open DBM file
/var/spool/exim/db/retry for writing:" message. Oddly, until recently
this error was not in evidence; and prior to recently, it was in
evidence and I fixed it; prior to that failure, it (wait for it) Just
Worked[1].

I wonder if the issue as evidenced by the Exim error could possibly be
related to the ruby error? I hear, from time to time, vague rumblings
about how the bdb software seeming to annoy people.

I know one thing I've learned, and hope it is accurate: when
installing Exim (and likely any other MTA as a substitute for
Sendmail) build it from source the first time, because installing a
binary and then using portupgrade will likely cause problems down the
road.

Of course, that lesson is probably covered in an FAQ somewhere, and I
just forgot it.


> in your environment, and then use portsdb and portupgrade as usual.
> There are a number of variations on this workaround, but the other
> ways of doing that involve installing some extra software.
> 
> See:
> 
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2004-September/015902.html
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2004-September/015922.html

Thanks; that last one looks interesting.

[1] So: it worked, it failed, it worked, and now, shortly before the
ruby issue, it began to fail. My previous cure for the Exim error
was, vis-a-vis this last failure, ineffectual.
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Re: Post Install Configuration Issues (ruby18 error)

[Joe Altman]

On Sun, Sep 12, 2004 at 11:16:51PM -0700, Joshua Tinnin wrote:
> On Monday 06 September 2004 11:11 am, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> 
> > Another way: - this changes the default database (btriev) to hash
> >
> > setenv PORTS_DBDRIVER bdb1_hash
> >
> > then run your portdb -u
> > In fact, I opted for this one. I now run my ports tree updating
> > scripts as I did BEFORE these issues.
> 
> What sort of effect might this have elsewhere? I'm sure this fix works, 
> but is there something else that could get borked by changing the 
> default database?

I used this on a box w/ multiple failures of ruby; I have since
noticed no issues.

The only difference is that I used this:

ENV['PORTS_DBDRIVER'] = 'dbm_hash'

from:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=638936+0+current/freebsd-ports

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