Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-06-10 Thread Al Plant

Manolis Kiagias wrote:

Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:


 
El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias 
escribió:


   

Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :)
At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a 
few on ebay).
Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a 
resolution of 1024x600.

800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes.

  


Maybe you know this page, Manolis:

http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/

it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 20GB
model is made of;
  


Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read.

a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version:
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w
  


There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear in 
Greek eshops soon.

take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh
(because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model have
had a 5800 mAh battery;

matthias
  


I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The one 
I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it has the 
same 4400mAh battery.  The larger screen and SSD will probably make this 
even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I really like to work the 
eee on battery only. In fact having to carry only this small laptop 
instead of all the usual accessories is a big plus to me.


On a side note,  I am thinking of writing a complete article about 
installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and 
optimizations, different installations methods,  with links to download 
ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it will have any 
real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux distro on it or even 
(gasp) Windows...

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Aloha,


I would be interested in a how to for FreeBSD on the Asus eee

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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-06-10 Thread Manolis Kiagias



Al Plant wrote:

Manolis Kiagias wrote:

Matthias Apitz wrote:
El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz 
escribió:


 
El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias 
escribió:


  

Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :)
At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted 
a few on ebay).
Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a 
resolution of 1024x600.

800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes.

  


Maybe you know this page, Manolis:

http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/

it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 
20GB

model is made of;
  


Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read.

a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version:
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w
  


There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear 
in Greek eshops soon.

take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh
(because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model 
have

had a 5800 mAh battery;

matthias
  


I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The 
one I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it 
has the same 4400mAh battery.  The larger screen and SSD will 
probably make this even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I 
really like to work the eee on battery only. In fact having to carry 
only this small laptop instead of all the usual accessories is a big 
plus to me.


On a side note,  I am thinking of writing a complete article about 
installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and 
optimizations, different installations methods,  with links to 
download ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it 
will have any real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux 
distro on it or even (gasp) Windows...

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Aloha,


I would be interested in a how to for FreeBSD on the Asus eee



OK, I am already set to write this. My time is kind of limited until the 
end of June, but I'll try to start on this ASAP.

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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-05-30 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

 El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió:
 
  Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :)
  At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a few 
  on ebay).
  Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a 
  resolution of 1024x600.
  800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes.
  

Maybe you know this page, Manolis:

http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/

it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 20GB
model is made of;

a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version:
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w

take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh
(because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model have
had a 5800 mAh battery;

matthias
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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-05-30 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Tuesday, May 27, 2008 a las 04:16:44PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió:

  

El día Friday, May 23, 2008 a las 01:18:06PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió:



Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :)
At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a few 
on ebay).
Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a 
resolution of 1024x600.

800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes.

  


Maybe you know this page, Manolis:

http://www.eeeuser.com/2008/05/04/eeeusercom-eeepc-900-in-depth-review/

it has a detailed technical report about all items of which the 900 20GB
model is made of;
  


Ah, nice! Thanks for the link. It will be a good read.

a dealer in CH will get next week the original US version:
http://www.stegcomputer.ch/details.asp?prodid=asu-e900-w
  


There are a few sold on ebay. I believe this model will also appear in 
Greek eshops soon.

take care, there is an issue about the battery having only 4400 mAh
(because of some fire in an ASUS supplier) while the original model have
had a 5800 mAh battery;

matthias
  


I will wait then. I prefer to get a model with a larger battery. The one 
I have now, lasts more or less 2 - 2.30 hours and I believe it has the 
same 4400mAh battery.  The larger screen and SSD will probably make this 
even less on the 900. Unlike larger laptops, I really like to work the 
eee on battery only. In fact having to carry only this small laptop 
instead of all the usual accessories is a big plus to me.


On a side note,  I am thinking of writing a complete article about 
installing FreeBSD 7.0 on the eeepc, including customizations and 
optimizations, different installations methods,  with links to download 
ready-built customized kernels etc. Don't know whether it will have any 
real audience though ;) Most people run some Linux distro on it or even 
(gasp) Windows...

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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-05-23 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Wednesday, May 21, 2008 a las 07:44:31PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió:

...
 - Note you can install either to SSD or an external SDHC. The SSD is 
 somewhat faster though. (But you can get larger SDHCs). I am dual 
 booting Linux and FreeBSD on mine right now. Linux is on the SSD and 
 FreeBSD on an 8GB SDHC.

In this Wiki page they show already a model 900 with up to 20 GByte SSD;
maybe it's a good idea to go for this model, even if it is a bit more
expensive (~400 euros):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeepc

matthias

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Gruenwalder Weg 28g - 82041 Oberhaching - Germany
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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-05-23 Thread Manolis Kiagias

Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Wednesday, May 21, 2008 a las 07:44:31PM +0300, Manolis Kiagias escribió:

...
  
- Note you can install either to SSD or an external SDHC. The SSD is 
somewhat faster though. (But you can get larger SDHCs). I am dual 
booting Linux and FreeBSD on mine right now. Linux is on the SSD and 
FreeBSD on an 8GB SDHC.



In this Wiki page they show already a model 900 with up to 20 GByte SSD;
maybe it's a good idea to go for this model, even if it is a bit more
expensive (~400 euros):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eeepc

matthias

  

Yes, I am already planning to upgrade :)
At this time, it is not available in Greece (though I have spotted a few 
on ebay).
Even more important than the 20Gb SSD is the 9 inch display with a 
resolution of 1024x600.

800x480 is really small for anything more other than taking notes.
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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-05-21 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Friday, January 18, 2008 a las 10:41:28PM -0500, Garance A Drosehn 
escribió:

 At 9:14 AM -0500 1/2/08, Ed Maste wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 06:20:22PM +, James Jeffery wrote:
 
  Before i end the toipic, anyone got any feeback on the Asus Eee (mini
  laptops) with FreeBSD?
 
 It works, but no drivers exist for the wireless or wired Ethernet ports.
 The wireless is a newer Atheros part and ath(4) should gain support for
 it, but I have no idea what the timeline will be.  The wired Ethernet
 is an Atheros (formerly Attansic) L2 10/100, and I'm not aware of any
 concrete plans for a driver for it.
 
 I've used a Linksys USB200M USB ethernet (axe(4) driver) with mine and
 that works well.
 
 One of the guys I know is running FreeBSD on the Eee, and has written
 up the following information for anyone who is interested in doing
 what he did:
 
 http://nighthack.org/wiki/EeeBSD
 
 This includes tips on how to get the wireless working, and sound,
 and some oddities with how X11 works.

Thanks for that hint. I'm thinking in buying such a device to have it
with me as a typewriter, mostly; normally I use FreeBSD 7.0-REL on my
laptop with around 200 compiled ports: KDE, OpenOffice, Lyx, StarDict,
...
the compilation normally takes 2-3 days to have it all ready;

of course, on that limited device with 4 or 8 GByte SSD it is not an
option to compile the stuff up from /usr/ports on the system itself, not
only from the point of view of disk space, but also because of the limited
lifetime write cycles of the SSD;

in short: what would be the easiest way to move the installed ports from
my laptop to such an Eee PC? can I make, for example, packages from my
ports and install them?

Thx

matthias

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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-05-21 Thread Manolis Kiagias



Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Friday, January 18, 2008 a las 10:41:28PM -0500, Garance A Drosehn 
escribió:

  

At 9:14 AM -0500 1/2/08, Ed Maste wrote:


On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 06:20:22PM +, James Jeffery wrote:

  

Before i end the toipic, anyone got any feeback on the Asus Eee (mini
laptops) with FreeBSD?


It works, but no drivers exist for the wireless or wired Ethernet ports.
The wireless is a newer Atheros part and ath(4) should gain support for
it, but I have no idea what the timeline will be.  The wired Ethernet
is an Atheros (formerly Attansic) L2 10/100, and I'm not aware of any
concrete plans for a driver for it.

I've used a Linksys USB200M USB ethernet (axe(4) driver) with mine and
that works well.
  

One of the guys I know is running FreeBSD on the Eee, and has written
up the following information for anyone who is interested in doing
what he did:

http://nighthack.org/wiki/EeeBSD

This includes tips on how to get the wireless working, and sound,
and some oddities with how X11 works.



Thanks for that hint. I'm thinking in buying such a device to have it
with me as a typewriter, mostly; normally I use FreeBSD 7.0-REL on my
laptop with around 200 compiled ports: KDE, OpenOffice, Lyx, StarDict,
...
the compilation normally takes 2-3 days to have it all ready;

of course, on that limited device with 4 or 8 GByte SSD it is not an
option to compile the stuff up from /usr/ports on the system itself, not
only from the point of view of disk space, but also because of the limited
lifetime write cycles of the SSD;

in short: what would be the easiest way to move the installed ports from
my laptop to such an Eee PC? can I make, for example, packages from my
ports and install them?

Thx

matthias

  
[Sending this a second time to the list only, since it had too many 
recipients the first time and was probably rejected]


I happen to have an eeePC and have successfully installed FreeBSD on it. 
It can be done in various ways (even without a CDROM, if you have an 
external USB disk).
I can attest the instructions in nighthack.org work: Sound and wireless 
work fine. There are a few things you can do it to speed it up:


- The SSD is too small for the classic partitioning scheme of FreeBSD. 
Probably a large '/' partition or a '/' and '/home' will do. Do not use 
swap.

- Turn of logging (syslogd_enable=NO in /etc/rc.conf)
- Edit /etc/ttys and reduce the number of virtual terminals.  You 
probably don't need them.
- Do not compile anything on the eee. It wil be a test of its abilities 
and your patience. Compile the kernel on another a PC and copy it via a 
USB key. Either use ready made packages (possibly after setting 
PACKAGESITE to packages-7-stable) or use 'make package' on your main pc 
to create packages and transfer them.
- The eee will happily run X and any environment you choose. I have 
tried XFCE and GNOME with no problem. More memory will be better, but 
not absolutely necessary.

- As others have said, the wired LAN does not currently work.
- Note you can install either to SSD or an external SDHC. The SSD is 
somewhat faster though. (But you can get larger SDHCs). I am dual 
booting Linux and FreeBSD on mine right now. Linux is on the SSD and 
FreeBSD on an 8GB SDHC.



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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-01-18 Thread Garance A Drosehn

At 9:14 AM -0500 1/2/08, Ed Maste wrote:

On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 06:20:22PM +, James Jeffery wrote:


 Before i end the toipic, anyone got any feeback on the Asus Eee (mini
 laptops) with FreeBSD?


It works, but no drivers exist for the wireless or wired Ethernet ports.
The wireless is a newer Atheros part and ath(4) should gain support for
it, but I have no idea what the timeline will be.  The wired Ethernet
is an Atheros (formerly Attansic) L2 10/100, and I'm not aware of any
concrete plans for a driver for it.

I've used a Linksys USB200M USB ethernet (axe(4) driver) with mine and
that works well.


One of the guys I know is running FreeBSD on the Eee, and has written
up the following information for anyone who is interested in doing
what he did:

http://nighthack.org/wiki/EeeBSD

This includes tips on how to get the wireless working, and sound,
and some oddities with how X11 works.

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Re: Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-01-03 Thread Chad Perrin
On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 09:14:19AM -0500, Ed Maste wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 06:20:22PM +, James Jeffery wrote:
 
  Before i end the toipic, anyone got any feeback on the Asus Eee (mini
  laptops) with FreeBSD?
 
 It works, but no drivers exist for the wireless or wired Ethernet ports.
 The wireless is a newer Atheros part and ath(4) should gain support for
 it, but I have no idea what the timeline will be.  The wired Ethernet
 is an Atheros (formerly Attansic) L2 10/100, and I'm not aware of any
 concrete plans for a driver for it.
 
 I've used a Linksys USB200M USB ethernet (axe(4) driver) with mine and
 that works well.

Do you happen to know how well it's supported with the other major BSD
Unix systems (Open- and Net-)?

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Asus eee (was Re: G4 Quicksilver as Web Server?)

2008-01-02 Thread Ed Maste
On Tue, Jan 01, 2008 at 06:20:22PM +, James Jeffery wrote:

 Before i end the toipic, anyone got any feeback on the Asus Eee (mini
 laptops) with FreeBSD?

It works, but no drivers exist for the wireless or wired Ethernet ports.
The wireless is a newer Atheros part and ath(4) should gain support for
it, but I have no idea what the timeline will be.  The wired Ethernet
is an Atheros (formerly Attansic) L2 10/100, and I'm not aware of any
concrete plans for a driver for it.

I've used a Linksys USB200M USB ethernet (axe(4) driver) with mine and
that works well.

-Ed
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