Re: questions about floppy disk

2007-06-25 Thread Eduardo Viruena Silva

On Sun, 24 Jun 2007, Olivier Regnier wrote:


Hi everyone,

I have two questions about floppy disk with FreeBSD.

How add a UFS filesystem to use the diskette for transfering files ?

I think with this command but i'm not sure because, i can't check for the 
moment.

# newfs /dev/fd0

To mount a floppy disk with ufs filesystem, i must use this command ?
# mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

Thank you for your help

Bye bye,
Olivier Regnier



try mtools, from the ports.

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questions about floppy disk

2007-06-24 Thread Olivier Regnier

Hi everyone,

I have two questions about floppy disk with FreeBSD.

How add a UFS filesystem to use the diskette for transfering files ?

I think with this command but i'm not sure because, i can't check for 
the moment.

# newfs /dev/fd0

To mount a floppy disk with ufs filesystem, i must use this command ?
# mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

Thank you for your help

Bye bye,
Olivier Regnier

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Re: questions about floppy disk

2007-06-24 Thread JD Bronson

At 07:21 PM 6/24/2007 +0200, Olivier Regnier wrote:

I have two questions about floppy disk with FreeBSD.

How add a UFS filesystem to use the diskette for transfering files ?

I think with this command but i'm not sure because, i can't check 
for the moment.

# newfs /dev/fd0

To mount a floppy disk with ufs filesystem, i must use this command ?
# mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy

Thank you for your help

Bye bye,
Olivier Regnier



http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/floppies.html


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Problème avec le floppy disk.

2007-01-05 Thread Tribal, Grégory
Bonjour,

 

Nous avons un problème au moment de l'installation d'un de nos logiciel:

Lorsque que nous insérons une disquette et lançons notre commande 
d'installation, le message suivant apparait:

 

/dev/fd0:  Cannot read :Input/Output error

   At Beginning of tape - Quitting now

   Error is not recoverable: Exiting now

 

Néanmoins, le lecteur de disquette fonctionne car nous utilisons plusieurs 
autres disquettes avant la disquette d'installation.

Nous avons vérifié le BIOS et tout parait bien configuré...

 

Pouvez vous nous aidez à résoudre notre problème?

 

Cordialement

 

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Re: Problème avec le floppy disk.

2007-01-05 Thread David Landgren

Tribal, Grégory wrote:

Bonjour,

 


Nous avons un problème au moment de l'installation d'un de nos logiciel:

Lorsque que nous insérons une disquette et lançons notre commande 
d'installation, le message suivant apparait:

 


/dev/fd0:  Cannot read :Input/Output error

   At Beginning of tape - Quitting now

   Error is not recoverable: Exiting now

 


Néanmoins, le lecteur de disquette fonctionne car nous utilisons plusieurs 
autres disquettes avant la disquette d'installation.

Nous avons vérifié le BIOS et tout parait bien configuré...


Est-ce la disquette fonctionne? Est-ce que le filesystem de la disquette 
est de type msdosfs? Est-ce que vous pouvez lire la disquette sur une 
autre machine?


Si vous pouvez répondre en anglais, vous aurez plus d'aide, cette liste 
est majoritairement anglophone. Je ne connais pas de liste francophone 
existe pour freebsd.


Merci,
David


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Re: Problème avec le floppy disk.

2007-01-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
David Landgren wrote:
 Tribal, Grégory wrote:
 Bonjour,

  

 Nous avons un problème au moment de l'installation d'un de nos logiciel:

 Lorsque que nous insérons une disquette et lançons notre commande
 d'installation, le message suivant apparait:

  

 /dev/fd0:  Cannot read :Input/Output error

At Beginning of tape - Quitting now

Error is not recoverable: Exiting now

  

 Néanmoins, le lecteur de disquette fonctionne car nous utilisons
 plusieurs autres disquettes avant la disquette d'installation.

 Nous avons vérifié le BIOS et tout parait bien configuré...
 
 Est-ce la disquette fonctionne? Est-ce que le filesystem de la disquette
 est de type msdosfs? Est-ce que vous pouvez lire la disquette sur une
 autre machine?
 
 Si vous pouvez répondre en anglais, vous aurez plus d'aide, cette liste
 est majoritairement anglophone. Je ne connais pas de liste francophone
 existe pour freebsd.

http://www.freebsd.org/fr/community/mailinglists.html

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Matthew

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-28 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Fri, Feb 25, 2005 at 06:41:10PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski typed:
 Loren M. Lang writes:

  I don't know why this is, it should still be possible, especially since
  you can mount cdroms.  /dev/fd0 is read/write by root right?  And the
  disk already had a formatted filesystem on it before you tried mounting
  it?
 
 Yes to both questions.  But it must be securelevel, because it works on
 the test machine.  The man page doesn't say anything about this
 restriction, though, nor is it obvious from what the page does say.

From the securelevel manpage (which is symlinked to init(8) ):

 1 Secure mode - the system immutable and system append-only flags may
   not be turned off; disks for mounted file systems, /dev/mem,
   /dev/kmem and /dev/io (if your platform has it) may not be opened
   for writing; kernel modules (see kld(4)) may not be loaded or
   unloaded.

 2 Highly secure mode - same as secure mode, plus disks may not be
   opened for writing (except by mount(2)) whether mounted or not.
   This level precludes tampering with file systems by unmounting
   them, but also inhibits running newfs(8) while the system is multi-
   user.
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-28 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ruben de Groot writes:

  1 Secure mode - the system immutable and system append-only flags may
not be turned off; disks for mounted file systems, /dev/mem,
/dev/kmem and /dev/io (if your platform has it) may not be opened
for writing; kernel modules (see kld(4)) may not be loaded or
unloaded.

Disks for mounted file systems ... but the floppy disk was not mounted.
Indeed, the problem was just that:  I couldn't mount it.

  2 Highly secure mode - same as secure mode, plus disks may not be
opened for writing (except by mount(2)) whether mounted or not.
This level precludes tampering with file systems by unmounting
them, but also inhibits running newfs(8) while the system is multi-
user.

I wasn't trying to open the diskette for writing.  Even a read-only attempt
to mount the diskette failed.

If securelevel=3 prohibits mounting floppy disks, then the documentation
should say something like floppy disks cannot be mounted at this
level.

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-25 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Wed, Feb 23, 2005 at 05:11:37PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Loren M. Lang writes:
 
  Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file
  smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy.
 
 Specifically, I was trying to generate an installation boot floppy for
 FreeBSD, in order to install it on my other machine (which is too old to
 boot from CD).

If you were using one of the pre-fabbed floppy images provided by
freebsd like kern.flp then you would want to write it raw to disk, not
mount it, and this is forbidden at securelevel 3.

 
  The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't
  because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount.
 
 I got the error just trying to mount the diskette.  I tried all
 different formats of the mount and mount_msdosfs commands and they all
 either generated a syntax error or told me that the operation was not
 permitted.

I don't know why this is, it should still be possible, especially since
you can mount cdroms.  /dev/fd0 is read/write by root right?  And the
disk already had a formatted filesystem on it before you tried mounting
it?

 
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-25 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Loren M. Lang writes:

 If you were using one of the pre-fabbed floppy images provided by
 freebsd like kern.flp then you would want to write it raw to disk, not
 mount it, and this is forbidden at securelevel 3.

I was trying to do it with dd.  I tried the same on my other system (the
one on which I'm trying to install FreeBSD for experimentation), and it
worked, but that system is at the default level of securelevel=-1.

That's fine, though, since it gives me a machine that can do the job,
which is all I need.  I trust a UNIX command a bit more than I trust a
Windows command (especially since the one supplied on the FreeBSD CD is
a bit weird).

 I don't know why this is, it should still be possible, especially since
 you can mount cdroms.  /dev/fd0 is read/write by root right?  And the
 disk already had a formatted filesystem on it before you tried mounting
 it?

Yes to both questions.  But it must be securelevel, because it works on
the test machine.  The man page doesn't say anything about this
restriction, though, nor is it obvious from what the page does say.

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 22, 2005 at 08:39:24PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote:
 Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:
 
  Why would you want to mount an MSDOS floppy on a server?
 
 In order to copy a raw file image to the floppy.

Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file
smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy.
The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't
because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount.

 
  That reduces the security and stability of your server
 
 Not really. See above. The intent is not to leave the floppy permanently
 mounted; I only needed to copy a raw diskette image to the floppy (a
 boot floppy for FreeBSD, as it happens). As it happens, I found a way to
 do it under Windows, so the problem is solved.
 
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-23 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Loren M. Lang writes:

 Do you mean install a 1440k floppy image onto a disk or just copy a file
 smaller than 1440k onto the msdos fs of an already formatted floppy.

Specifically, I was trying to generate an installation boot floppy for
FreeBSD, in order to install it on my other machine (which is too old to
boot from CD).

 The latter should be ok even at securelevel 3, but the former can't
 because that would mean open /dev/fd0 for writing other than a mount.

I got the error just trying to mount the diskette.  I tried all
different formats of the mount and mount_msdosfs commands and they all
either generated a syntax error or told me that the operation was not
permitted.

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-22 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Dan Nelson writes:
 
  Is it write-protected?  Securelevel too high?  Check your console or
  dmesg output; the kernel may be printing more info there.
 
 No console messages that I've seen, but securelevel=3.  Does
 securelevel=3 prevent me from mounting floppies??

Yes.  This is, in fact, one of the main ways in which securelevel
makes the system more secure.

If you are going to run at a raised securelevel, please read 
man securelevel.
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-22 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Feb 22, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
Anthony Atkielski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dan Nelson writes:
Is it write-protected?  Securelevel too high?  Check your console or
dmesg output; the kernel may be printing more info there.
No console messages that I've seen, but securelevel=3.  Does
securelevel=3 prevent me from mounting floppies??
Why would you want to mount an MSDOS floppy on a server?  That reduces 
the security and stability of your server

Chad
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-22 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Lowell Gilbert writes:

 Yes.  This is, in fact, one of the main ways in which securelevel
 makes the system more secure.

OK

 If you are going to run at a raised securelevel, please read 
 man securelevel.

I did.  It doesn't say anything about not being able to mount a floppy.
Since I can mount CD-ROMs, I figured I could mount a floppy, but perhaps
not.

I'll have to try it with securelevel set lower when I get a chance.  As
it is, I managed to create the floppy I needed on Windows, so the
problem is no longer pressing.

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-22 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC writes:

 Why would you want to mount an MSDOS floppy on a server?

In order to copy a raw file image to the floppy.

 That reduces the security and stability of your server

Not really. See above. The intent is not to leave the floppy permanently
mounted; I only needed to copy a raw diskette image to the floppy (a
boot floppy for FreeBSD, as it happens). As it happens, I found a way to
do it under Windows, so the problem is solved.

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Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-21 Thread Anthony Atkielski
I put a diskette (MS-DOS) into my floppy drive and try

mount -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy
mount -o ro -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy

and various other variations, but all I get is Operation not permitted

fsck works okay.  I'm logged in as root.  What am I overlooking?

-- 
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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-21 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 22), Anthony Atkielski said:
 I put a diskette (MS-DOS) into my floppy drive and try
 
 mount -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy
 mount -o ro -t msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy
 
 and various other variations, but all I get is Operation not permitted
 
 fsck works okay.  I'm logged in as root.  What am I overlooking?

Is it write-protected?  Securelevel too high?  Check your console or
dmesg output; the kernel may be printing more info there.

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-21 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Dan Nelson writes:

 Is it write-protected?  Securelevel too high?  Check your console or
 dmesg output; the kernel may be printing more info there.

No console messages that I've seen, but securelevel=3.  Does
securelevel=3 prevent me from mounting floppies??

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Re: Why can't I access my floppy disk?

2005-02-21 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Feb 22), Anthony Atkielski said:
 Dan Nelson writes:
  Is it write-protected?  Securelevel too high?  Check your console
  or dmesg output; the kernel may be printing more info there.
 
 No console messages that I've seen, but securelevel=3.  Does
 securelevel=3 prevent me from mounting floppies??

A quick look at the source says it shouldn't stop you, but there are a
lot of calls within vfs_domount that may return EPERM.  You may need to
add printfs to figure out which one is failing.

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Use of the BOOT.FLP floppy disk.

2003-12-18 Thread Arne Engø
Hello, 
 
I have been using FreeBSD earlier, but am new to the 5.0-Release.
The boot.flp image seems to be twice the size of an ordinary floppy, while the other 
four images in the floppies-directory fits on exactly one disk each. What are the 
BOOT.FLP disk for ? How is it to be used, and how do I use it on a 1.44 - floppy disk 
drive system ??? I would appreciate a speedy reply, as I'm trying to set up a new 
system with Freebsd 5.0-release.
 
Sincerely 
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Re: Use of the BOOT.FLP floppy disk.

2003-12-18 Thread Niraj Kumar
I guess you have to use kern.flp and mfsroot.flp for installing FreeBSD 5.x.

It is clearly mentioned in the readme.txt file .

Niraj

Arne Engø wrote:

Hello, 

I have been using FreeBSD earlier, but am new to the 5.0-Release.
The boot.flp image seems to be twice the size of an ordinary floppy, while the other 
four images in the floppies-directory fits on exactly one disk each. What are the 
BOOT.FLP disk for ? How is it to be used, and how do I use it on a 1.44 - floppy disk 
drive system ??? I would appreciate a speedy reply, as I'm trying to set up a new 
system with Freebsd 5.0-release.
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Re: Use of the BOOT.FLP floppy disk.

2003-12-18 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 11:27:51AM +0100, Arne Engø wrote:

 I have been using FreeBSD earlier, but am new to the 5.0-Release.
 The boot.flp image seems to be twice the size of an ordinary floppy, while the other 
 four images in the floppies-directory fits on exactly one disk each. What are the 
 BOOT.FLP disk for ? How is it to be used, and how do I use it on a 1.44 - floppy 
 disk drive system ??? I would appreciate a speedy reply, as I'm trying to set up a 
 new system with Freebsd 5.0-release.

You don't use boot.flp with a 1.44Mb floppy drive.  You can use
boot.flp with a 2.88Mb floppy drive, but relatively few people have
one of those.  You can also use it to build certain styles of bootable
CD Rom -- although I think even that use is verging on the obsolete
nowadays.

Instead of boot.flp, use kern.flp and mfsroot.flp -- those contain
exactly the same contents as boot.flp but conveniently divided up into
disk sized pieces.

Oh -- why on earth are you trying to install 5.0-RELEASE when
5.1-RELEASE is available?  Or even better why not try one of the
5.2-BETA images (if you can't afford to wait a few days until
5.2-RELEASE comes out)?  Seriously: the 5.x series so far is a
technology preview: meaning lots of new and untested code that still
has significant bugs to work out.  Each new release in the 5.x series
is a significant improvement on the previous one.  If your aim is a
conservative choice of version -- one that's been around a while and
been thoroughly debugged and is properly stable -- then you want
4.9-RELEASE.

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RE: New name for Floppy disk devices?

2003-12-18 Thread fbsd_user
Try  mount /dev/fd0 /mnt   0=zero

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Subject: New name for Floppy disk devices?

OK, so sometimes serial devices that one would expect to have names
in
/dev like sio0 or sio1 are now called cuaa0 or cuaa1 (for reasons
beyond my understanding).  Now I can see my floppy disk in the dmesg
output, but there doesn't appear to be an fdc0 in /dev.  Did floppy
disk devices get renamed, too, or is it hiding somewhere else, or
did
it, for some unknown reason, just vanish?  I'm trying to create a
floppy disk boot pair, and can't write to a device I can't find.
Help?

   -Lyman

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Re: New name for Floppy disk devices?

2003-12-17 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 06:42, Dr. Lyman Hazelton wrote:
 OK, so sometimes serial devices that one would expect to have names in
 /dev like sio0 or sio1 are now called cuaa0 or cuaa1 (for reasons
 beyond my understanding).  Now I can see my floppy disk in the dmesg
 output, but there doesn't appear to be an fdc0 in /dev.  Did floppy
 disk devices get renamed, too, or is it hiding somewhere else, or did
 it, for some unknown reason, just vanish?  I'm trying to create a
 floppy disk boot pair, and can't write to a device I can't find.
 Help?


I have been using FreeBSD since version 2.0.5 and during that time 
the serial callin ports have always been named ttyd?, callout ports cuaa?
and floppy drives fd0, fd1. The names are not new or changed.

I guess you could have created your own device files or renamed them choosing 
any name you want; but most people find it more convenient to stay with the 
defaults as other applications won't find them.

I think you may be confused with the serial driver names, sio? and the floppy
disk controller name fdc0; which as far as I can remember always have been and 
still are.

Malcolm Kay 

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New name for Floppy disk devices?

2003-12-16 Thread Dr. Lyman Hazelton
OK, so sometimes serial devices that one would expect to have names in 
/dev like sio0 or sio1 are now called cuaa0 or cuaa1 (for reasons 
beyond my understanding).  Now I can see my floppy disk in the dmesg 
output, but there doesn't appear to be an fdc0 in /dev.  Did floppy 
disk devices get renamed, too, or is it hiding somewhere else, or did 
it, for some unknown reason, just vanish?  I'm trying to create a 
floppy disk boot pair, and can't write to a device I can't find.   
Help?

   -Lyman

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Re: New name for Floppy disk devices?

2003-12-16 Thread Murray Stokely
Have you read the creating and using floppy disks section of the
Handbook?  The device name is '/dev/fd0'.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/floppies.html

Hope that helps.

- Murray

On Tue, Dec 16, 2003 at 01:12:40PM -0700, Dr. Lyman Hazelton wrote:
 OK, so sometimes serial devices that one would expect to have names in 
 /dev like sio0 or sio1 are now called cuaa0 or cuaa1 (for reasons 
 beyond my understanding).  Now I can see my floppy disk in the dmesg 
 output, but there doesn't appear to be an fdc0 in /dev.  Did floppy 
 disk devices get renamed, too, or is it hiding somewhere else, or did 
 it, for some unknown reason, just vanish?  I'm trying to create a 
 floppy disk boot pair, and can't write to a device I can't find.   
 Help?
 
-Lyman
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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-19 Thread Peter Risdon
Darryl Hoar wrote:

Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
is recognized, etc.
 

It's often helpful to paste your dmesg into your question with problems 
of this sort. From my dmesg:

fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) port 
0x3f7,0x3f0-0
x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold

So I have a floppy controller. So far so good. But what about a floppy 
drive? That's in the line:

fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0

Do you also have that?

Peter Risdon.

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RE: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-19 Thread Darryl Hoar
 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Risdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: floppy disk - device not configured error


 Darryl Hoar wrote:

 Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
 is recognized, etc.
 
 
 It's often helpful to paste your dmesg into your question
 with problems
 of this sort. From my dmesg:

 fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) port
 0x3f7,0x3f0-0
 x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold

 So I have a floppy controller. So far so good. But what about
 a floppy
 drive? That's in the line:

 fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0

 Do you also have that?

 Peter Risdon.


looked at dmessg and found:
fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0

but no fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0, or for that matter
anything like it.

What does that mean ?

thanks,
Darryl

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RE: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-19 Thread Darryl Hoar
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Darryl Hoar
 Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 8:57 AM
 To: 'Peter Risdon'
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: floppy disk - device not configured error
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Risdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:22 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: floppy disk - device not configured error
 
 
  Darryl Hoar wrote:
 
  Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
  is recognized, etc.
  
  
  It's often helpful to paste your dmesg into your question
  with problems
  of this sort. From my dmesg:
 
  fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) port
  0x3f7,0x3f0-0
  x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
  fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
 
  So I have a floppy controller. So far so good. But what about
  a floppy
  drive? That's in the line:
 
  fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
 
  Do you also have that?
 
  Peter Risdon.
 
 
 looked at dmessg and found:
 fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 
 drq 2 on isa0
 
 but no fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0, or for that matter
 anything like it.
 
 What does that mean ?
 
 thanks,
 Darryl

Never mind.  That sound you hear is me thumping
my head against the wall.  Checked the bios, and
the floppy was disabled.  Enabled it and all is well.

Sorry for the wasted bandwidth.

-Darryl
 
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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-19 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Peter Risdon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 4:22 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: floppy disk - device not configured error
 
 
  Darryl Hoar wrote:
 
  Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
  is recognized, etc.
  
  
  It's often helpful to paste your dmesg into your question
  with problems
  of this sort. From my dmesg:
 
  fdc0: Enhanced floppy controller (i82077, NE72065 or clone) port
  0x3f7,0x3f0-0
  x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
  fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
 
  So I have a floppy controller. So far so good. But what about
  a floppy
  drive? That's in the line:
 
  fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0
 
  Do you also have that?
 
  Peter Risdon.
 
 
 looked at dmessg and found:
 fdc0: NEC 72065B or clone at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
 
 but no fd0: 1440-KB 3.5 drive on fdc0 drive 0, or for that matter
 anything like it.
 
 What does that mean ?

I guess it means that it doesn't see a floppy drive there.
Either something is wrong with the way it is plugged in or maybe
either the drive or the controller is failing in some way.  Check
connections - wiggle and reseat cables, etc.  Try the drive in some 
other way, such as in MSWINxx if you also have that on the machine.   

Or you might not have it configured in you kernel.   It is by default
but might have gotten nuked somehow.   Have you ever rebuilt the 
kernel on that machine before?  Check in
your kernel config file -  in: /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/(kernel-conf-file)

for the following lines (kernel-conf-file is whatever you named it)

# Floppy drives
device  fdc0at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device  fd0 at fdc0 drive 0
device  fd1 at fdc0 drive 1
#
fd0 and fd1 would be two floppy drives.

If you are not sure then make a copy of GENERIC to a file name
you choose in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/  directory.  Check in that
copy of GENERIC to make sure those lines are in the file - they would
go after the 'options' entries.Note that they might just be there
already but commented out for some reason.  

NOTE ALSO:  If you have created a new kernel, then make a copy of that
kernel-conf file instead of GENERIC.

Then while in the /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/ directory do:  
/usr/sbin/config name-of-file-you-copied-GENERIC-to
cd ../../compile/name-of-file-you-copied-GENERIC-to
make depend
make
cp /kernel /kernel.save
make install
Then reboot  -- shutdown -r now

Of course, this all has to be done as root.

jerry

 
 thanks,
 Darryl
 
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floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Darryl Hoar
Greetings,
I am running FreeBSD 4.7-stable.  I am
trying to make new boot floppies so I
can install Freebsd on another machine.
When I try to:
dd if=./kern.flp of=/dev/fd0

I get a Device not configured Error.
A good, new floppy is in the drive.  I have
tried several new floppies.  Same result.

Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
is recognized, etc.

what am I not doing right ?

thanks,
-Darryl
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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Technical Director

Greetings back,

You could try the following:

dd if=./kern.flp of=/dev/fd0a

That might fix your problem.

R.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Darryl Hoar wrote:

 Greetings,
 I am running FreeBSD 4.7-stable.  I am
 trying to make new boot floppies so I
 can install Freebsd on another machine.
 When I try to:
 dd if=./kern.flp of=/dev/fd0
 
 I get a Device not configured Error.
 A good, new floppy is in the drive.  I have
 tried several new floppies.  Same result.
 
 Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
 is recognized, etc.
 
 what am I not doing right ?
 
 thanks,
 -Darryl
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RE: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Darryl Hoar

 -Original Message-
 From: Technical Director [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:45 PM
 To: Darryl Hoar
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: floppy disk - device not configured error
 
 
 
 Greetings back,
 
 You could try the following:
 
 dd if=./kern.flp of=/dev/fd0a
 
 That might fix your problem.
 
 R.
 
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Darryl Hoar wrote:
 
  Greetings,
  I am running FreeBSD 4.7-stable.  I am
  trying to make new boot floppies so I
  can install Freebsd on another machine.
  When I try to:
  dd if=./kern.flp of=/dev/fd0
  
  I get a Device not configured Error.
  A good, new floppy is in the drive.  I have
  tried several new floppies.  Same result.
  
  Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
  is recognized, etc.
  
  what am I not doing right ?
  
  thanks,
  -Darryl


thanks.  I tried your suggestion, but received the same message.
Any other ideas ?

thanks
Darryl
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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Technical Director [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 2:45 PM
  To: Darryl Hoar
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: floppy disk - device not configured error
  
  Greetings back,
  
  You could try the following:
  
  dd if=./kern.flp of=/dev/fd0a
  
  That might fix your problem.
  
  R.
  
  On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Darryl Hoar wrote:
  
   Greetings,
   I am running FreeBSD 4.7-stable.  I am
   trying to make new boot floppies so I
   can install Freebsd on another machine.
   When I try to:
   dd if=./kern.flp of=/dev/fd0
   
   I get a Device not configured Error.
   A good, new floppy is in the drive.  I have
   tried several new floppies.  Same result.
   
   Checked dmesg and the floppy controller
   is recognized, etc.
   
   what am I not doing right ?

Is the floppy formatted?   Used fdformat for that or do it
on a MS machine.

Also, write to /dev/fd0c   or /dev/rfd0c.

Here is just what I do and have done many times.

   First format two floppies for 1.4 meg using fdformat
   -'fdformat -f 1440'is enough.  It will prompt for the rest
   then
   -'dd if=boot-image of=/dev/rfd0c'   for boot floppy
 (change floppy :)
   and
   -'dd if=mfs-image of=/dev/rfd0c'for mfs floppy

The only other thing I can think of is maybe you don't have the device
made correctly.

Check it and use MAKEDEV to make them 
  (what happens after you get to 5.x I don't know yet, haven't been there)

docd /dev
  ls -l *fd0*
if you don't find an 'rfd0c'  then make one

  ./MAKEDEV fd0 should do it

You might need to delete some stuff first as in
  
  rm *fdo*

But, really, these should all be there because the system normally
makes these by default.   If they aren't there, something pooped
along the line somewhere.

Good luck,

jerry

   
   thanks,
   -Darryl
 
 thanks.  I tried your suggestion, but received the same message.
 Any other ideas ?
 
 thanks
 Darryl
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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Technical Director

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jerry McAllister wrote:

 Is the floppy formatted?   Used fdformat for that or do it
 on a MS machine.
 
 Also, write to /dev/fd0c   or /dev/rfd0c.
 
 Here is just what I do and have done many times.
 
First format two floppies for 1.4 meg using fdformat
-'fdformat -f 1440'is enough.  It will prompt for the rest
then
-'dd if=boot-image of=/dev/rfd0c'   for boot floppy
  (change floppy :)
and
-'dd if=mfs-image of=/dev/rfd0c'for mfs floppy

Hello, 

Maybe I'm wrong but isin't dd a raw write to the device when used
in this way? Hence a pre-formatting is not required?

Preformatting may help I'm not to sure, I know that I have never had to do
it for a boot floppy creation.

R.

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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 
 On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Jerry McAllister wrote:
 
  Is the floppy formatted?   Used fdformat for that or do it
  on a MS machine.
  
  Also, write to /dev/fd0c   or /dev/rfd0c.
  
  Here is just what I do and have done many times.
  
 First format two floppies for 1.4 meg using fdformat
 -'fdformat -f 1440'is enough.  It will prompt for the rest
 then
 -'dd if=boot-image of=/dev/rfd0c'   for boot floppy
   (change floppy :)
 and
 -'dd if=mfs-image of=/dev/rfd0c'for mfs floppy
 
 Hello, 
 
 Maybe I'm wrong but isin't dd a raw write to the device when used
 in this way? Hence a pre-formatting is not required?
 
 Preformatting may help I'm not to sure, I know that I have never had to do
 it for a boot floppy creation.

Hmmm.I didn't think so at first, but I had trouble writing to
the floppy if I used an unformatted disk.   That was way back in
v 2.x and 3.x and I started doing it that way and since it worked
haven't changed how I do it.

jerry

 
 R.
 
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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Jerry McAllister
  
  Check it and use MAKEDEV to make them 
(what happens after you get to 5.x I don't know yet, 
  haven't been there)
  
  docd /dev
ls -l *fd0*
  if you don't find an 'rfd0c'  then make one
  
./MAKEDEV fd0 should do it
  
  You might need to delete some stuff first as in

rm *fdo*
  
  But, really, these should all be there because the system normally
  makes these by default.   If they aren't there, something pooped
  along the line somewhere.
  
  Good luck,
  
  jerry
  
 
 I tried fdformat -f 1440 and it wanted the device.  Tried it with
 fdformat -f 1440 fd0, and got the device not configured.  Tried
 it with fdformat -f 1440 /dev/fd0, and got device not configured.

Hmmm.Have you checked dmesg to make sure the system even sees it?

 cd /dev
 ls -l *fd0*  yeilds a lot of files.  Guess I'll try the rm *fd0*, then
 the ./MAKEDEV fd0 to see if it'll fix things.

Well, if it has a fd0c and rfd0c then it should be good.
But, I have had to do that for some other devices that looked
like they were there - but not for a floppy drive that I remember.
So, ..

Good luck.   

jerry

 
 thanks
 Darryl 
 

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Re: floppy disk - device not configured error

2003-11-18 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003, Technical Director wrote:

 Maybe I'm wrong but isin't dd a raw write to the device when used
 in this way? Hence a pre-formatting is not required?

A floppy will still need a low-level format before the first use.

 Preformatting may help I'm not to sure, I know that I have never had to do
 it for a boot floppy creation.

99% of floppies around today are preformatted.  The one you have might
not be, or may have been formatted by a drive that was out of alignment.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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how to mount floppy disk?

2003-08-28 Thread Denis
Hi All!!!

  I try next to mount my floppy disk driver:
  mount_msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy
  I/O error.
  But why?

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RE: how to mount floppy disk?

2003-08-28 Thread Terry Tyson
Denis,

Make sure there is a floppy disk in the drive before running the
command. Also, I think the actual command is mount_msdos not
mount_msdosfs. :-)

Terry

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 Subject: how to mount floppy disk?


 Hi All!!!

   I try next to mount my floppy disk driver:
   mount_msdosfs /dev/fd0 /floppy
   I/O error.
   But why?

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Re: how to mount floppy disk?

2003-08-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Terry Tyson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Make sure there is a floppy disk in the drive before running the
 command.

There could also be a problem with that particular floppy or drive...

  Also, I think the actual command is mount_msdos not
 mount_msdosfs. :-)

Depends on which version of FreeBSD is in use.  Since it worked, that 
was clearly the right one.
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Re: 5.1 install - kern.flp too big for floppy disk!

2003-08-14 Thread Jud
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 21:52:26 -0700, send2bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 my floppy disks are 1.45, but formatted only hold 1.38 meg, so I can't
 create install floppies!
 I can't install from cd because my pc ( a pentium II ) doesn't seem to
 want to boot from cd no matter how often I change the boot order.
 
 Help!
 
 thanks!
 Bill

Read the install instructions carefully.  It's my guess you are trying to
copy kern.flp rather than imaging it onto the floppy using fdimage. 
Also, if you are at this stage of things I would suggest you try FreeBSD
4.8 rather than 5.1.

Jud
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5.1 install - kern.flp too big for floppy disk!

2003-08-07 Thread send2bill
my floppy disks are 1.45, but formatted only hold 1.38 meg, so I can't create install 
floppies!
I can't install from cd because my pc ( a pentium II ) doesn't seem to want to boot 
from cd no matter how often I change the boot order.

Help!

thanks!
Bill
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Floppy Disk Formatting

2003-07-28 Thread DJN92546
We have received a file on a floppy disk from a client.  When we put it into 
the drive it says that disk has not been formatted.  We  already read from the 
disk and transferred the file to another system earlier.  Why, after we have 
already used the file on the floppy disk does it now tell us it is not 
formatted.  We need to open the file to print out some information from the original 
information on the disk.  We do get a question that asks if we want to format 
the disk now.  Can we say Yes to that?  Or should we say No?  If we say yes, 
what will it do to the disk?
Any help you can give, would be appreciated.  We do not want to lose any info 
on the disk so we are waiting for your answer.  Thank you. 
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Re: Floppy Disk Formatting

2003-07-28 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Monday, 28 July 2003 at 13:31:10 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 We have received a file on a floppy disk from a client.  When we put it into
 the drive it says that disk has not been formatted.  We  already read from the
 disk and transferred the file to another system earlier.  Why, after we have
 already used the file on the floppy disk does it now tell us it is not
 formatted.  We need to open the file to print out some information from the original
 information on the disk.  We do get a question that asks if we want to format
 the disk now.  Can we say Yes to that?  Or should we say No?  If we say yes,
 what will it do to the disk?

If you say yes, it will destroy all data on the disk.

Does this question have anything to do with FreeBSD?

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Floppy Disk Help - 030621

2003-06-21 Thread Fortuna - Temp
Support,

I am currently having a floppy disk drive problem.  I have searched all over the 
Internet for a solution to my problem and I have not found an answer.  You are my last 
resort.  

For a long time I always mounted the floppy drive by typing, mount /dev/fd0 /floppy, 
and it worked fine.  Then one day I rebooted the system without unmounting 'fd0,' and 
now I cannot access it.  

I have tried different command combinations and nothing works.  

I keep on getting the following error:
mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured

Later after researching my problem, I found out that I could have used 'mtools' all 
along.  When I tried using 'mtools,' to access the 'fd0' I get the following error:
plain_io: Device not configured
init A: could not read boot sector
cannot initialize 'A:'

Do you have any suggestions.  I would really appreciate it if you can help out.



Fortuna
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Re: floppy disk hardware failure ?

2003-05-30 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Lee Harr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is this a hardware problem?  I get the same thing with all disks I
 have tried.

Yes, probably.  

I'm guessing it's an MS-DOS type floppy, being mounted with mount -t msdos.  
You might try the mtools, which parse the filesystem a little
differently, but it's unlikely to matter when the very first block is failing.
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Re: floppy disk hardware failure ?

2003-05-30 Thread Lee Harr
May 28 10:20:21 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ST0
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
May 28 10:20:24 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ST0
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
May 28 10:22:46 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 of 0-1 (ST0
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
Is this a hardware problem?  I get the same thing with all disks I
have tried.
Yes, probably.

I'm guessing it's an MS-DOS type floppy, being mounted with mount -t 
msdos.
You might try the mtools, which parse the filesystem a little
differently, but it's unlikely to matter when the very first block is 
failing.

Sorry, mine was a poorly asked question.

I never mount DOS floppies on my system, I use mtools as you suggest.

I am getting these same type messages using both mtools or even
trying to access the floppy with dd
I think I will try a different floppy drive when I have a chance to bring
the system down for a few minutes.
Thanks for your time.

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floppy disk hardware failure ?

2003-05-29 Thread Lee Harr
Hi;

Recently, trying to use my floppy disk drive, I started getting messages 
like this:

May 28 10:20:21 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ST0 
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
May 28 10:20:24 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 (ST0 
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
May 28 10:22:46 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error writing fsbn 0 of 0-1 (ST0 
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
May 28 10:42:19 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of 0-1 (ST0 
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
May 28 10:45:05 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of 0-1 (ST0 
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)
May 28 11:00:28 tern /kernel: fd0c: hard error reading fsbn 0 of 0-1 (ST0 
40abnrml ST1 1no_am ST2 0 cyl 0 hd 0 sec 1)

Is this a hardware problem?  I get the same thing with all disks I have 
tried.

Thank you for your time.

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-09 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-08 10:46:16 -0700:
  Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:09:58 +0200 (CEST)
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
  
  *** mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured ***
  
  hi, if the order mount means that the device is not
  configured,it has to be configured, isn't it?? so, how it has
  to be done?
 
 FreeBSD does not have /etc/vfstab. It is a System V UNIX thing. If
 mount is looking for it, something is badly awry.

...

 The other very real possibility is that your system has been hacked
 and the mount command has been subverted.

He/She already knows all this, but has ignored all warnings.

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floppy disk

2002-10-08 Thread xxavi


# mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured


*** mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured ***


hi, if the order mount means that the device is not
configured,it has to be configured, isn't it?? so, how it has
to be done?

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-08 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-07 21:09:58 +0200:
 
 # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
 
 
 *** mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured ***
 
 
 hi, if the order mount means that the device is not
 configured,it has to be configured, isn't it?? so, how it has
 to be done?

no. it means that something's not quite right with it, but the
system is not sure what it is.

you have a problem much deeper than the inability to mount
a floppy, as has been said in a previous thread you started
looking for help with this. looks like you're not interested
in fixing it. 

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-08 Thread Jerry McAllister


  # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
 
 
 *** mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured ***
 
 
 hi, if the order mount means that the device is not
 configured,it has to be configured, isn't it?? so, how it has
 to be done?

Often the 'Device not configured' message appears to mean that
you do not have a floppy disk in the drive (or a tape in a tape drive).

It can also mean that you have to go in to the /dev
directory and do a './MAKEDEV xxx'  for it where xxx is the device.

Normally you would not actually do a mount for a floppy unless you
have a disk that has a file system built on it.   A lot of times
people just copy things directly to or from the device using 'dd' and 
in this case you don't actually do a mount.  But, if you write a floppy
don't make a file system on the disk and mount it, things like grep 
and ls won't work on it.  There are no files for them to look at, just
a glob of data.

(Actually, I have been having trouble with many machines writing to
 DAT tape drives (DDS-3 and DDS-4) using dd (or cp) when tar and dump
 work just fine.  But, that is another story and I should post some
 questions on that separately.)

jerry

 
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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-08 Thread xxavi


On 08-Oct-2002 Jerry McAllister wrote:
 
  # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
 
 
 *** mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured ***
 
 
 hi, if the order mount means that the device is not
 configured,it has to be configured, isn't it?? so, how it has
 to be done?
 
 Often the 'Device not configured' message appears to mean that
 you do not have a floppy disk in the drive (or a tape in a tape drive).
 
 It can also mean that you have to go in to the /dev
 directory and do a './MAKEDEV xxx'  for it where xxx is the device.
 
 Normally you would not actually do a mount for a floppy unless you
 have a disk that has a file system built on it.   A lot of times
 people just copy things directly to or from the device using 'dd' and 
 in this case you don't actually do a mount.  But, if you write a floppy
 don't make a file system on the disk and mount it, things like grep 
 and ls won't work on it.  There are no files for them to look at, just
 a glob of data.
 
 (Actually, I have been having trouble with many machines writing to
  DAT tape drives (DDS-3 and DDS-4) using dd (or cp) when tar and dump
  work just fine.  But, that is another story and I should post some
  questions on that separately.)
 
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Hi, my problem is that I'm trying to install the floppy disk
but it seems it's not working, so I can't copy anything and do
anything with it. What I would like to sort out is how do I
install the flopy disk in the computer system. does anybody
know how to do it, having attention to the error it says? Thanx



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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-08 Thread Kevin Oberman

 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:09:58 +0200 (CEST)
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
 
 
 *** mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured ***
 
 
 hi, if the order mount means that the device is not
 configured,it has to be configured, isn't it?? so, how it has
 to be done?

FreeBSD does not have /etc/vfstab. It is a System V UNIX thing. If
mount is looking for it, something is badly awry.

The use of grep is also disturbing. mount(8) should not call grep.

Try alias mount and which mount. I suspect mount is executing some
shell script written for some other Unix system that tries to do
something clever by pre-parsing the vfstab file. Of course, this is
useless on FreeBSD. The alias command should return nothing and the
which command should return /sbin/mount.

The other very real possibility is that your system has been hacked
and the mount command has been subverted.

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floppy disk

2002-10-06 Thread xxavi


On 05-Oct-2002 Oliver Fromme wrote:
 Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   [huge quote]
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
   ...
   
   Anyway, I just wanted to guess that vfstab means Virtual FileSystem
   TABle, which I think is an (optional?) feature of FreeBSD 5.0 (AKA
 
 No.  /etc/vfstab is the filesystem table on several SysV-
 derived UNIX systems, such as Solaris.  It does not exist
 on FreeBSD.
 
 Therefore it seems that the mount command on that machine
 has been replaced by a script designed to run on a system
 like Solaris.  Maybe some funny root-kit.
 
 Not that I want to cause any concern ...  :-)
 
 My advice would be to re-install the mount command.  Better
 yet, find out whether the machine was compromised, and if
 so, re-install the complete system.
 
 Regards
Oliver
 
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 and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way.
 
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How can i make to reinstal only that command (mount), whitout reinstaling all
the SO?


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2002-10-06 Thread xxavi


On 05-Oct-2002 Gary W. Swearingen wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 [huge quote]
 
   grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 ...
 Hi, what do you mean when you say filesystem?
 
 (You could have asked that question without quoting most of the thread.)
 
 Anyway, I just wanted to guess that vfstab means Virtual FileSystem
 TABle, which I think is an (optional?) feature of FreeBSD 5.0 (AKA
 CURRENT).  It would probably be better for a beginner to run
 4.6.2-RELEASE or maybe -STABLE, if possible.
 
 I agree that it sounds like file $(which mount) will indicate that
 mount is a script, but I don't know what to do with that info.
 
 As for
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured
 
 We need someone who knows the virtual device scheme to know
 how /dev/fd0 would be created/supported/whatever.  Or is
 /drives/fd the virtual device?

no, that's for the directory where i want to mount the diskettery

  The mount command want's that
 to be an existing directory.  Is the virtual device configured
 by kernel build configuration, or boot-time, or device-need-time?
 

I don't underestand that question because i don't know what are 
you talking about.

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-06 Thread Oliver Fromme

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How can i make to reinstal only that command (mount), whitout reinstaling all
  the SO?

cd /usr/src/sbin/mount
make all install

Requires that you have the sources installed, of course.
And if your system security was really compromised, it
won't help you at all.

Regards
   Oliver

PS:  It is customary to quote only those parts of an
e-mail message which you directly refer to, or which are
required to recognize the context.  In particular, that
does _not_ include signatures.

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-05 Thread Oliver Fromme

Gary W. Swearingen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [huge quote]
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  ...
  
  Anyway, I just wanted to guess that vfstab means Virtual FileSystem
  TABle, which I think is an (optional?) feature of FreeBSD 5.0 (AKA

No.  /etc/vfstab is the filesystem table on several SysV-
derived UNIX systems, such as Solaris.  It does not exist
on FreeBSD.

Therefore it seems that the mount command on that machine
has been replaced by a script designed to run on a system
like Solaris.  Maybe some funny root-kit.

Not that I want to cause any concern ...  :-)

My advice would be to re-install the mount command.  Better
yet, find out whether the machine was compromised, and if
so, re-install the complete system.

Regards
   Oliver

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floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread xxavi


Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and mount my 
floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any document that would help me.

bye

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:
 
 Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and mount my 
 floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any document that
 would help me.

see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:

roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
#!/bin/sh

fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
  disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
  newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440

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2002-10-04 Thread xxavi


Hi, but when I put:  mount /dev/fd0 /drives/fd it says me that:

grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured

why does he say me that and how can I solucioned it?


On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:
 
 Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and mount my 
 floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any document that
 would help me.
 
 see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:
 
 roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
 #!/bin/sh
 
 fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
   disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
   newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440
 
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2002-10-04 Thread xxavi

Hi,

1. uname -a

# uname -a
FreeBSD x.org 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 #8: Sun Sep 15 05:39:35
GMT 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

2. which mount

# which mount 
/sbin/mount

3. file `which mount`

? i don't understand ?


4. try the mount with /dev/fd0c

# mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured

5. if 4. fails, make sure you actually have a floppy in the drive :)

? i don't understand ?



On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
 don't top-post.
 
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:25:44 +0200:
 On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:
  
  Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and mount my 
  floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any document that
  would help me.
  
  see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:
  
  roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
  #!/bin/sh
  
  fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440
 
 Hi, but when I put:  mount /dev/fd0 /drives/fd it says me that:
 
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured
  
 grep? since when does mount(8) call grep?
 and who's this /etc/vfstab guy anyway?
 
 ok. do these things:
 1. uname -a
 2. which mount
 3. file `which mount`
 4. try the mount with /dev/fd0c
 5. if 4. fails, make sure you actually have a floppy in the drive :)
 
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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread John Bleichert

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Roman Neuhauser wrote:

 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:46:40 +0200
 From: Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: floppy disk
 
 don't top-post.
 
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:25:44 +0200:
  On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:
   
   Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and mount my 
   floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any document that
   would help me.
   
   see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:
   
   roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
   #!/bin/sh
   
   fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
 disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
 newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440
  
  Hi, but when I put:  mount /dev/fd0 /drives/fd it says me that:
  
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured
  
 grep? since when does mount(8) call grep?
 and who's this /etc/vfstab guy anyway?
 
 ok. do these things:
 1. uname -a
 2. which mount
 3. file `which mount`
 4. try the mount with /dev/fd0c
 5. if 4. fails, make sure you actually have a floppy in the drive :)
 
 -- 

Also, are you sure you've compiled support for floppy disks into your 
kernel? Also the support for the filesystem on them?


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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread Roman Neuhauser



**
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*  DO NOT TOP-POST!  *
**
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# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:57:05 +0200:
 On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  don't top-post.
  
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:25:44 +0200:
  On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:
   
   Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and
   mount my floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any
   document that
   would help me.
   
   see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:
   
   roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
   #!/bin/sh
   
   fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
 disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
 newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440
  
  Hi, but when I put:  mount /dev/fd0 /drives/fd it says me that:
  
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured
   
  grep? since when does mount(8) call grep?
  and who's this /etc/vfstab guy anyway?
  
  ok. do these things:
  1. uname -a

 # uname -a
 FreeBSD x.org 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 #8: Sun Sep 15 05:39:35
 GMT 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386

fine
 
  2. which mount
 
 # which mount 
 /sbin/mount

fine
 
  3. file `which mount`
 
 ? i don't understand ?

just copypaste it into your shell. it looks like your /sbin/mount
was some wrapper over the normal mount(8). that grep error message
is highly suspicious. what shell are you using? are you sure it
would admit mount was a shell function or an alias when you asked
with which?

  4. try the mount with /dev/fd0c
 
 # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
 
  5. if 4. fails, make sure you actually have a floppy in the drive :)
 
 ? i don't understand ?

i don't know how much simpler i can make it:

is there a floppy disc in the drive?

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2002-10-04 Thread xxavi


On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
 
 
 **
 **
 *  DO NOT TOP-POST!  *
 **
 **
 
# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:57:05 +0200:
 On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  don't top-post.
  
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:25:44 +0200:
  On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:
   
   Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and
   mount my floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any
   document that
   would help me.
   
   see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:
   
   roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
   #!/bin/sh
   
   fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
 disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
 newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440
  
  Hi, but when I put:  mount /dev/fd0 /drives/fd it says me that:
  
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured
   
  grep? since when does mount(8) call grep?
  and who's this /etc/vfstab guy anyway?
  
  ok. do these things:
  1. uname -a

 # uname -a
 FreeBSD x.org 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 #8: Sun Sep 15
 05:39:35
 GMT 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
 
 fine
  
  2. which mount
 
 # which mount 
 /sbin/mount
 
 fine
  
  3. file `which mount`
 
 ? i don't understand ?
 
 just copypaste it into your shell. it looks like your /sbin/mount
 was some wrapper over the normal mount(8). that grep error message
 is highly suspicious. what shell are you using? are you sure it
 would admit mount was a shell function or an alias when you asked
 with which?
 
  4. try the mount with /dev/fd0c
 
 # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
 mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
 
  5. if 4. fails, make sure you actually have a floppy in the drive :)
 
 ? i don't understand ?
 
 i don't know how much simpler i can make it:
 
 is there a floppy disc in the drive?
 
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is there a floppy disc in the drive?

answer: yes



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floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread xxavi


On 04-Oct-2002 John Bleichert wrote:
 On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Roman Neuhauser wrote:
 
 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 19:46:40 +0200
 From: Roman Neuhauser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: floppy disk
 
 don't top-post.
 
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:25:44 +0200:
  On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:
   
   Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and mount my 
   floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any document that
   would help me.
   
   see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:
   
   roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
   #!/bin/sh
   
   fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
 disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
 newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440
  
  Hi, but when I put:  mount /dev/fd0 /drives/fd it says me that:
  
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured
  
 grep? since when does mount(8) call grep?
 and who's this /etc/vfstab guy anyway?
 
 ok. do these things:
 1. uname -a
 2. which mount
 3. file `which mount`
 4. try the mount with /dev/fd0c
 5. if 4. fails, make sure you actually have a floppy in the drive :)
 
 -- 
 
 Also, are you sure you've compiled support for floppy disks into your 
 kernel? Also the support for the filesystem on them?
 
 
#  John Bleichert 
#  http://vonbek.dhs.org/latest.jpg
 
 


Hi, what do you mean when you say filesystem?


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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 18:50:21 +0200:
 # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:57:05 +0200:
  On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
  # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 17:25:44 +0200:
   On 04-Oct-2002 Roman Neuhauser wrote:
   # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 16:49:05 +0200:

Hello, I'm new on the list and I'm trying to configurate and
mount my floppydisk, can anyone tell me how I could find any
document that
would help me.

see /etc/disktab. i use this script to create floppies:

roman@freepuppy ~ 1021:0   ~/bin/newfd 
#!/bin/sh

fdformat -f 1440 fd0.1440 \
  disklabel -r -w fd0.1440 fd1440 \
  newfs -T fd1440 fd0.1440
   
   Hi, but when I put:  mount /dev/fd0 /drives/fd it says me that:
   
   grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
   grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
   mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured

   grep? since when does mount(8) call grep?
   and who's this /etc/vfstab guy anyway?
   
   ok. do these things:
   1. uname -a
 
  # uname -a
  FreeBSD x.org 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE-p2 #8: Sun Sep 15
  05:39:35
  GMT 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/MYKERNEL  i386
  
  fine
   
   2. which mount
  
  # which mount 
  /sbin/mount
  
  fine
   
   3. file `which mount`
  
  ? i don't understand ?
  
  just copypaste it into your shell. it looks like your /sbin/mount
  was some wrapper over the normal mount(8). that grep error message
  is highly suspicious. what shell are you using? are you sure it
  would admit mount was a shell function or an alias when you asked
  with which?
  
   4. try the mount with /dev/fd0c
  
  # mount /dev/fd0c /drives/fd
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
  mount: /dev/fd0c: Device not configured
  
   5. if 4. fails, make sure you actually have a floppy in the drive :)
  
  ? i don't understand ?
  
  i don't know how much simpler i can make it:
  
  is there a floppy disc in the drive?
 
 is there a floppy disc in the drive?
 
 answer: yes

thanks for not top-posting. but, erm, i wonder why you repeat the
text you're replying to instead of just typing below it?

anyway, can you do the other thing i told you to do?
type this into your shell:

file `which mount`

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread Roman Neuhauser

# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2002-10-04 19:03:48 +0200:
 On 04-Oct-2002 John Bleichert wrote:
  Also, are you sure you've compiled support for floppy disks into
  your kernel? Also the support for the filesystem on them?
 
 Hi, what do you mean when you say filesystem?

filesystem is a schema, an organization of things on the disc.
examples of a filesystem are FAT (used in MSDOS and Windows 9x),
NTFS (Windows NT, 2000, XP), or UFS, which is used in BSD unices.

you can make your FreeBSD understand various filesystems:
ISO 9660 (the filesystem used on CDs), FAT, NTFS, ext2 (Linux),
etc.

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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread Charles Pelletier

jeez, now, come on, if someone can't understand something then don't make
'em feel like an idiot. it took me at least a year to get used to dealing
with 'filesystems' et al.



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Re: floppy disk

2002-10-04 Thread Gary W. Swearingen

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[huge quote]

   grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
...
 Hi, what do you mean when you say filesystem?

(You could have asked that question without quoting most of the thread.)

Anyway, I just wanted to guess that vfstab means Virtual FileSystem
TABle, which I think is an (optional?) feature of FreeBSD 5.0 (AKA
CURRENT).  It would probably be better for a beginner to run
4.6.2-RELEASE or maybe -STABLE, if possible.

I agree that it sounds like file $(which mount) will indicate that
mount is a script, but I don't know what to do with that info.

As for
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
grep: /etc/vfstab: No such file or directory
mount: /dev/fd0: Device not configured

We need someone who knows the virtual device scheme to know
how /dev/fd0 would be created/supported/whatever.  Or is
/drives/fd the virtual device?  The mount command want's that
to be an existing directory.  Is the virtual device configured
by kernel build configuration, or boot-time, or device-need-time?

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