Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-05 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, September 01, 2006 22:31:59 +0100 RW 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It's just a thought, but perhaps the linking could be handled by wrapping
the  binary in a shell script that verifies   ~/.mulberry  and the links.

This has now been done.  I've submitted an update to the port that uses a 
start script to check for the existence of the Resources directory in 
~/.mulberry and symlinks to the files if it doesn't exist.  I also 
submitted a second PR that adds url.helper and mailcap files to provide 
some defaults for attachment and url handling.


Hopefully they will meet with the maintainer's approval and the port will 
be accepted shortly.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread Pete Slagle
RW wrote:

 There used to be a port of Cyrusoft's Mulberry mail client that installed the 
 Linux rpm version; then Cyrusoft went bankrupt and the port dissappeared.
 
 Mulberry is now available for free as a standalone Linux binary:
 
  http://www.mulberrymail.com
 
 Has anyone got this working?  If you just run the binary it opens and can be 
 be configured to read an imap  mailbox, but a lot of the error and warning 
 pop-up boxes are missing text and buttons. There are probably other problems, 
 but without the error messages it's hard to say.

Is this relevant?

http://trac.mulberrymail.com/mulberry/wiki/linuxproblems

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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread RW
On Friday 01 September 2006 08:30, Pete Slagle wrote:
 RW wrote:
  Has anyone got this working?  If you just run the binary it opens and can
  be be configured to read an imap  mailbox, but a lot of the error and
  warning pop-up boxes are missing text and buttons. There are probably
  other problems, but without the error messages it's hard to say.

 Is this relevant?

Not any more, but that wiki entry was created several hours after I posted.

 http://trac.mulberrymail.com/mulberry/wiki/linuxproblems

That fixed the problems with text. I hope a proper package can be made out of 
this - having installed files and user data under ~/.mulberry would be a pain 
to maintain.

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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread RW
On Friday 01 September 2006 13:41, RW wrote:
 On Friday 01 September 2006 08:30, Pete Slagle wrote:
  RW wrote:
   Has anyone got this working?  If you just run the binary it opens and
   can be be configured to read an imap  mailbox, but a lot of the error
   and warning pop-up boxes are missing text and buttons. There are
   probably other problems, but without the error messages it's hard to
   say.
 
  Is this relevant?

 Not any more, but that wiki entry was created several hours after I posted.

Sorry, I thought you were questioning the relevance to FreeBSD (since the 
problem exists in Linux too), but on reflection I see you were asking if the 
link is relevant.

  http://trac.mulberrymail.com/mulberry/wiki/linuxproblems

 That fixed the problems with text. I hope a proper package can be made out
 of this - having installed files and user data under ~/.mulberry would be a
 pain to maintain.

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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, September 01, 2006 13:41:45 +0100 RW 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



On Friday 01 September 2006 08:30, Pete Slagle wrote:

RW wrote:
 Has anyone got this working?  If you just run the binary it opens and
 can be be configured to read an imap  mailbox, but a lot of the error
 and warning pop-up boxes are missing text and buttons. There are
 probably other problems, but without the error messages it's hard to
 say.

Is this relevant?


Not any more, but that wiki entry was created several hours after I
posted.


http://trac.mulberrymail.com/mulberry/wiki/linuxproblems


That fixed the problems with text. I hope a proper package can be made
out of  this - having installed files and user data under ~/.mulberry
would be a pain  to maintain.


I'm working on an update to the port, which I will submit to the maintainer.

In the meantime, the problem is that you need to have the xml files in the 
Resources directory in a directory of the same name under your ~/.mulberry 
directory, but it's not created when you initiate Mulberry for the first 
time.


You can easily correct this by creating a symlink:

ls -s /usr/local/lib/mulberry/Resources/ ~/.mulberry/

That will solve your problem.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread RW
On Friday 01 September 2006 16:33, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On Friday, September 01, 2006 13:41:45 +0100 RW

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Friday 01 September 2006 08:30, Pete Slagle wrote:
  RW wrote:
   Has anyone got this working?  If you just run the binary it opens and
   can be be configured to read an imap  mailbox, but a lot of the error
   and warning pop-up boxes are missing text and buttons. There are
   probably other problems, but without the error messages it's hard to
   say.
 
  Is this relevant?
 
  Not any more, but that wiki entry was created several hours after I
  posted.
 
  http://trac.mulberrymail.com/mulberry/wiki/linuxproblems
 
  That fixed the problems with text. I hope a proper package can be made
  out of  this - having installed files and user data under ~/.mulberry
  would be a pain  to maintain.

 I'm working on an update to the port, which I will submit to the
 maintainer.

 In the meantime, the problem is that you need to have the xml files in the
 Resources directory in a directory of the same name under your ~/.mulberry
 directory, but it's not created when you initiate Mulberry for the first
 time.

 You can easily correct this by creating a symlink:

 ls -s /usr/local/lib/mulberry/Resources/ ~/.mulberry/

The problem was that extracting Mulberry.tgz produces a hidden .mulberry 
directory in the current directory, which  should be in ~/  before running 
the binary. I extracted in a temporary location, failed to spot this hidden 
directory, and just moved the binary to ~/bin/. Removing ~/.mulberry and 
re-extracting in my home directory fixed the problem. BTW it actually 
contains  plugin and icon directories as well as resources. 


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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, September 01, 2006 17:33:30 +0100 RW 
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You can easily correct this by creating a symlink:

ls -s /usr/local/lib/mulberry/Resources/ ~/.mulberry/



This is incorrect.  It should be:
ln -s /usr/local/lib/mulberry/Resources ~/.mulberry/


The problem was that extracting Mulberry.tgz produces a hidden .mulberry
directory in the current directory, which  should be in ~/  before
running  the binary. I extracted in a temporary location, failed to spot
this hidden  directory, and just moved the binary to ~/bin/. Removing
~/.mulberry and  re-extracting in my home directory fixed the problem.
BTW it actually  contains  plugin and icon directories as well as
resources.

Yes, but that only works for you.  For people setting up servers for 
mulitple users, that's not a good solution.


When you launch mulberry for the first time, it will create the ~/.mulberry 
directory as well as the Plugins and Calendar and other subdirectories that 
are needed for *your* customized version of mulberry, but the Resources 
directory is *not* created.  That's why you're missing the text.


In order to make a generic installer, the port has to place all those 
directories in a central location, but you must create a symling to 
Resources *or* just copy all the files to your own ~/.mulberry/Resources/ 
directory.


That's the *correct* way to do it.


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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread RW
On Friday 01 September 2006 19:19, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On Friday, September 01, 2006 17:33:30 +0100 RW

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You can easily correct this by creating a symlink:
 
  ls -s /usr/local/lib/mulberry/Resources/ ~/.mulberry/

 This is incorrect.  It should be:
 ln -s /usr/local/lib/mulberry/Resources ~/.mulberry/

  The problem was that extracting Mulberry.tgz produces a hidden .mulberry
  directory in the current directory, which  should be in ~/  before
  running  the binary. I extracted in a temporary location, failed to spot
  this hidden  directory, and just moved the binary to ~/bin/. Removing
  ~/.mulberry and  re-extracting in my home directory fixed the problem.
  BTW it actually  contains  plugin and icon directories as well as
  resources.

 Yes, but that only works for you.  For people setting up servers for
 mulitple users, that's not a good solution.

I didn't say it was, it was just that my specific problem was that I deleted 
the resources directory without knowing it existed. For my own use, I don't 
see the point in putting anything under /usr until there is a port.

And it's not just the Resources directory that's important, SSL/TLS support is 
provided by a plugin.
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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On Friday, September 01, 2006 20:13:25 +0100 RW 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I didn't say it was, it was just that my specific problem was that I
deleted  the resources directory without knowing it existed. For my own
use, I don't  see the point in putting anything under /usr until there is
a port.

And it's not just the Resources directory that's important, SSL/TLS
support is  provided by a plugin.

Thanks for pointing that out.  I'll have to see if there's a way to point 
to that directory.


Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-09-01 Thread RW
On Friday 01 September 2006 20:40, Paul Schmehl wrote:
 --On Friday, September 01, 2006 20:13:25 +0100 RW

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I didn't say it was, it was just that my specific problem was that I
  deleted  the resources directory without knowing it existed. For my own
  use, I don't  see the point in putting anything under /usr until there is
  a port.
 
  And it's not just the Resources directory that's important, SSL/TLS
  support is  provided by a plugin.

 Thanks for pointing that out.  I'll have to see if there's a way to point
 to that directory.

It's just a thought, but perhaps the linking could be handled by wrapping the 
binary in a shell script that verifies   ~/.mulberry  and the links.
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Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-08-31 Thread RW
There used to be a port of Cyrusoft's Mulberry mail client that installed the 
Linux rpm version; then Cyrusoft went bankrupt and the port dissappeared.

Mulberry is now available for free as a standalone Linux binary:

 http://www.mulberrymail.com

Has anyone got this working?  If you just run the binary it opens and can be 
be configured to read an imap  mailbox, but a lot of the error and warning 
pop-up boxes are missing text and buttons. There are probably other problems, 
but without the error messages it's hard to say.
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Re: Anyone Using the New Free Mulberry Mail Client?

2006-08-31 Thread pauls
--On September 1, 2006 12:18:20 AM +0100 RW 
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There used to be a port of Cyrusoft's Mulberry mail client that
installed the  Linux rpm version; then Cyrusoft went bankrupt and the
port dissappeared.

Mulberry is now available for free as a standalone Linux binary:

 http://www.mulberrymail.com

Has anyone got this working?  If you just run the binary it opens and
can be  be configured to read an imap  mailbox, but a lot of the error
and warning  pop-up boxes are missing text and buttons. There are
probably other problems,  but without the error messages it's hard to
say.


That's what the port was doing when I tried it.

I installed the new 4.0.5 release, and it works fine.  Nothing is missing 
(that I noticed.)


I'm running 6.0 RELEASE with linux_base-fc-4_8.

And I *love* Mulberry.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/