Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
If it works then let it alone.

What model of PT card did you get?  The single-port one?

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Thanks Ted,

 Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
 installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
 a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
 cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..


 dmesg goodness:
 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
 0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
 at device 0.0 on pci2
 em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
 em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
 0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
 at device 0.1 on pci2
 em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19

 Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
 recompile anyway?

 Cheers,

 Will


 On 06/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Go here:
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/
 
  click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
  other than LICENSE and README
 
  right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
  from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy
disk,
  take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and
recompile
  the kernel.
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Ted,
  
   Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
   early mornings and information overload.
  
   Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
   I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.
  
   Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
   latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?
  
   Regards,
  
   Will
  
   On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and
making
things very
hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll
throw my
hands up in
the air
   
The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be
accessible,
MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
   
BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
   
The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
  full-height
PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
  factory
and it comes with the server.
   
The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
   
   
The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
  slot.
It
works with FBSD 6.1
   
The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
  slot.
It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
   
You can either do ONE of the following:
   
1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.
This
  works
out
of box with FBSD 6.1
   
2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
  server.
This DOES
NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current
driver
  for
this to work.
   
You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the
  server.
   
You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a
standard
height PCI-X slot ONLY.
   
Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain
this
  to
you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.
   
Ted
   
- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
   
   
 Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low
profile
 PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
 then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.

 On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card
  from HP
and
  replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with
the
PCI-X
  riser card

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-07 Thread William

dual port.

Regards,

Will

On 07/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If it works then let it alone.

What model of PT card did you get?  The single-port one?

Ted

- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Thanks Ted,

 Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
 installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
 a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
 cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..


 dmesg goodness:
 em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
 0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
 at device 0.0 on pci2
 em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
 em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
 0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
 at device 0.1 on pci2
 em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19

 Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
 recompile anyway?

 Cheers,

 Will


 On 06/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Go here:
 
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/
 
  click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
  other than LICENSE and README
 
  right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
  from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy
disk,
  take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and
recompile
  the kernel.
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Ted,
  
   Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
   early mornings and information overload.
  
   Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
   I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.
  
   Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
   latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?
  
   Regards,
  
   Will
  
   On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and
making
things very
hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll
throw my
hands up in
the air
   
The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be
accessible,
MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
   
BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
   
The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
  full-height
PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
  factory
and it comes with the server.
   
The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
   
   
The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
  slot.
It
works with FBSD 6.1
   
The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
  slot.
It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
   
You can either do ONE of the following:
   
1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.
This
  works
out
of box with FBSD 6.1
   
2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
  server.
This DOES
NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current
driver
  for
this to work.
   
You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the
  server.
   
You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a
standard
height PCI-X slot ONLY.
   
Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain
this
  to
you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.
   
Ted
   
- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
   
   
 Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low
profile
 PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
 then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.

 On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card
  from HP
and
  replace

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Go here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/

click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
other than LICENSE and README

right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy disk,
take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and recompile
the kernel.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Ted,

 Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
 early mornings and information overload.

 Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
 I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.

 Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
 latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?

 Regards,

 Will

 On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
  things very
  hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
  hands up in
  the air
 
  The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
  MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
 
  BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
 
  The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
full-height
  PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
factory
  and it comes with the server.
 
  The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
  PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
  factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
 
 
  The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
slot.
  It
  works with FBSD 6.1
 
  The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
slot.
  It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
 
  You can either do ONE of the following:
 
  1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This
works
  out
  of box with FBSD 6.1
 
  2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
server.
  This DOES
  NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver
for
  this to work.
 
  You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the
server.
 
  You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
  riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
  height PCI-X slot ONLY.
 
  Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this
to
  you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
   PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
   then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.
  
   On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card
from HP
  and
replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the
  PCI-X
riser card.
   
Ted
   
- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
   
   
 Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a
320?

 On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
   Antony,
  
   I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew
box,
  the
   code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port
  Server
   Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?
  
   That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is
  supported
   by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
  
   The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and
is
  not
   supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned)
should
   be supported by the driver available from Intel.
 
  If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using
a
  Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be
  something
  like be this:
 
  1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel
  source
  2. Obtain the latest Intel

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-06 Thread William

Thanks Ted,

Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..


dmesg goodness:
em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
at device 0.0 on pci2
em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
at device 0.1 on pci2
em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19

Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
recompile anyway?

Cheers,

Will


On 06/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Go here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/

click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
other than LICENSE and README

right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy disk,
take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and recompile
the kernel.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Ted,

 Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
 early mornings and information overload.

 Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
 I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.

 Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
 latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?

 Regards,

 Will

 On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
  things very
  hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
  hands up in
  the air
 
  The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
  MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
 
  BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
 
  The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
full-height
  PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
factory
  and it comes with the server.
 
  The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
  PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
  factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
 
 
  The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
slot.
  It
  works with FBSD 6.1
 
  The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
slot.
  It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
 
  You can either do ONE of the following:
 
  1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This
works
  out
  of box with FBSD 6.1
 
  2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
server.
  This DOES
  NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver
for
  this to work.
 
  You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the
server.
 
  You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
  riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
  height PCI-X slot ONLY.
 
  Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this
to
  you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
  freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
   PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
   then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.
  
   On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card
from HP
  and
replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the
  PCI-X
riser card.
   
Ted
   
- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
   
   
 Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a
320?

 On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
   Antony,
  
   I've got

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-06 Thread Antony Mawer

On 6/07/2006 4:26 PM, William wrote:

Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..


dmesg goodness:
em0: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
at device 0.0 on pci2
em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
em1: Intel(R) PRO/1000 Network Connection Version - 3.2.18 port
0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
at device 0.1 on pci2
em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19

Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
recompile anyway?



It sounds like you were lucky with your card -- we tried a 6.1 
installation and it did not detect our Intel Pro/1000PT card, while the 
7-CURRENT driver did. A back-port of the 7-CURRENT driver looked 
relatively non-trivial, but the Intel driver for 6.x saved the day.


If it's all working properly, then you should be right to continue with 
the 6.1 driver you are currently using. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!


Cheers
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-04 Thread William

Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.

On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP and
replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the PCI-X
riser card.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?

 On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
   Antony,
  
   I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
   code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
   Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?
  
   That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
   by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
  
   The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
   supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
   be supported by the driver available from Intel.
 
  If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
  Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something
  like be this:
 
  1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
  2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not
  available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
  3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
  4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
  /usr/src/sys/dev/em/
  5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new
  driver source (cd /usr/src  make buildkernel)
  6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)
 
  You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...
 
  Regards
  Antony
 
 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
things very
hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
hands up in
the air

The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.

BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.

The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a full-height
PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the factory
and it comes with the server.

The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.


The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express slot.
It
works with FBSD 6.1

The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X slot.
It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.

You can either do ONE of the following:

1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This works
out
of box with FBSD 6.1

2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the server.
This DOES
NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver for
this to work.

You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the server.

You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
height PCI-X slot ONLY.

Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this to
you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
 PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
 then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.

 On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP
and
  replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the
PCI-X
  riser card.
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?
  
   On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
 Antony,

 I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box,
the
 code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port
Server
 Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?

 That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is
supported
 by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,

 The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is
not
 supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
 be supported by the driver available from Intel.
   
If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be
something
like be this:
   
1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel
source
2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still
not
available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the
server
4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
/usr/src/sys/dev/em/
5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the
new
driver source (cd /usr/src  make buildkernel)
6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)
   
You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...
   
Regards
Antony
   
   
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-04 Thread William

Ted,

Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
early mornings and information overload.

Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.

Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?

Regards,

Will

On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
things very
hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
hands up in
the air

The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.

BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.

The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a full-height
PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the factory
and it comes with the server.

The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.


The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express slot.
It
works with FBSD 6.1

The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X slot.
It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.

You can either do ONE of the following:

1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This works
out
of box with FBSD 6.1

2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the server.
This DOES
NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver for
this to work.

You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the server.

You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
height PCI-X slot ONLY.

Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this to
you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
 PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
 then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.

 On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP
and
  replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the
PCI-X
  riser card.
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?
  
   On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
 Antony,

 I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box,
the
 code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port
Server
 Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?

 That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is
supported
 by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,

 The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is
not
 supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
 be supported by the driver available from Intel.
   
If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be
something
like be this:
   
1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel
source
2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still
not
available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the
server
4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
/usr/src/sys/dev/em/
5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the
new
driver source (cd /usr/src  make buildkernel)
6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)
   
You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...
   
Regards
Antony
   
   
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-03 Thread William

Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?

On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
 Antony,

 I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
 code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
 Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?

 That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
 by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,

 The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
 supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
 be supported by the driver available from Intel.

If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something
like be this:

1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not
available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
/usr/src/sys/dev/em/
5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new
driver source (cd /usr/src  make buildkernel)
6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)

You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...

Regards
Antony



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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP and
replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the PCI-X
riser card.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?

 On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
   On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
   Antony,
  
   I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
   code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
   Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?
  
   That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
   by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
  
   The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
   supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
   be supported by the driver available from Intel.
 
  If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
  Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something
  like be this:
 
  1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
  2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not
  available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
  3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
  4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
  /usr/src/sys/dev/em/
  5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new
  driver source (cd /usr/src  make buildkernel)
  6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)
 
  You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...
 
  Regards
  Antony
 
 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-02 Thread Antony Mawer

On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:

On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:

Antony,

I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?


That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,

The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
be supported by the driver available from Intel.


If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a 
Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something 
like be this:


1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not 
available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)

3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into 
/usr/src/sys/dev/em/
5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new 
driver source (cd /usr/src  make buildkernel)

6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)

You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...

Regards
Antony

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:
  Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
  might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
  server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?
 
  Regards,
  Will

 Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic
 across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case,
 the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting
 up was enough to do it within seconds.


The patch I posted to the PR database fixes that problem.  Unfortunately
there
is another problem with the broadcom driver that affects many different
broadcom
chipsets, it's a timeout error.  I gave up trying to find that one.  The
timeout
error only affects certain broadcom chips.

 I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this
 machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases
 will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).


You can order the PCI-X riser card for this server and use an Intel Pro 1000
MT Server
card and it will work out of the box with FreeBSD 6.1

Ted

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread William

Bloody good point.

On 01/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

How will you cvsup without a network connection?

Ted

- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
 install -STABLE from CD?

 On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
   I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
   code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
   Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?
 
  The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless
  you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one
  in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1
  half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
  regular PCI). You will need to either:
 
   1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
   (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)
 
   2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
   the standard driver in 6.x.
 
  Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the
  PCI Express one definately does NOT.
 
  That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and
  rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
  happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.
 
  Regards
  Antony
 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
How will you cvsup without a network connection?

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
 install -STABLE from CD?

 On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
   I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
   code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
   Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?
 
  The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless
  you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one
  in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1
  half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
  regular PCI). You will need to either:
 
   1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
   (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)
 
   2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
   the standard driver in 6.x.
 
  Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the
  PCI Express one definately does NOT.
 
  That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and
  rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
  happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.
 
  Regards
  Antony
 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
What I had to do is mount a floppy in a second machine, copy the broadcom
driver patch over to the floppy, then mount the floppy in the DL320 and
copy the driver to the system, recompile the kernel with the patched driver.

Once the initial patch for the Broadcom chip is made, it will give you
a usable enough network connection so that you can copy larger files
over without the server panicing, however without warning a file transfer
can halt due to the timeout problem.  So you still have to stand over it.

The easiest way is to buy the replacement PCI-X riser card and
use the Intel Pro 1000 MT Server adapter in it, then the system will
install and run out of the box.  But if you don't mind the floppy shuffle
you can save $30 on buying the replacement riser card and just go with
the PCI-Express riser card that comes with the system and the Intel
Pro 1000 PT Server adapter, and then when the system is installed,
copy the 7.1 driver over to it via a floppy, recompile the kernel, etc.

Ted

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To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED];
freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Bloody good point.

 On 01/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How will you cvsup without a network connection?
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:51 AM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
   install -STABLE from CD?
  
   On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
 I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box,
the
 code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port
Server
 Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?
   
The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work
unless
you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard
one
in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots
(1
half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
regular PCI). You will need to either:
   
 1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
 (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)
   
 2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work
with
 the standard driver in 6.x.
   
Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know
the
PCI Express one definately does NOT.
   
That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver
and
rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.
   
Regards
Antony
   
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread William

Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?

Regards,

Will

On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 23/06/2006 6:24 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
 Out of the box the DL 320 G4 ships with a riser card that has 2 pci express
 slots.  At least that is what they are supposed to be, we haven't tried
 them.
...
 If you only do the pci express then the adapter you want is the Intel
 Pro 1000 PT  either the single port or the dual port, and make sure
 it is the server adapter not the desktop adapter  (the models carry
 the same model number but different descriptions, which is infuriating)

We ended up in this same situation, and went down the Intel PCI express
NIC path (Intel Pro/1000PT). Be advised that, at this stage, the driver
in both 6.0 and 6.1 -RELEASE does not support this card, but support is
present in 7-CURRENT.

That being said, with the official Intel driver (v6.0.5, not sure if
it's released yet), I was able to replace the standard em driver in 6.0,
build a new kernel, and bring the server up and survive some
pre-deployment load testing without any hiccups.

Be aware that while the riser card has two PCI Express slots, one is
half-height, and the Intel NICs (at least the one we received) are a
full card.

The onboard Broadcom NICs weren't worth the PCBs they were printed on in
terms of stability -- we were seeing the same hard lockups as Ted and
didn't have the luxury of time to spend fiddling with it!! From what I
gather from Ted's previous investigations, there's various work-arounds
in the Linux driver that work around some shortcomings in the hardware
itself...

Regards
Antony


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread Antony Mawer

On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:

Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?

Regards,
Will


Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic 
across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case, 
the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting 
up was enough to do it within seconds.


I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this 
machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases 
will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).


Regards
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread William

Antony,

I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?

On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:
 Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
 might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
 server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?

 Regards,
 Will

Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic
across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case,
the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting
up was enough to do it within seconds.

I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this
machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases
will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).

Regards
Antony


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread Antony Mawer

On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:

I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?


The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless 
you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one 
in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1 
half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or 
regular PCI). You will need to either:


1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
(provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)

2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
the standard driver in 6.x.

Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the 
PCI Express one definately does NOT.


That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and 
rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be 
happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.


Regards
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
 Antony,
 
 I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
 code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
 Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?

That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,

The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
be supported by the driver available from Intel.


Which card you want depends on what kind of expansion slot(s) you have
available.



 
 On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:
  Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
  might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
  server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?
 
  Regards,
  Will
 
 Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic
 across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case,
 the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting
 up was enough to do it within seconds.
 
 I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this
 machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases
 will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).
 
 Regards
 Antony
 

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread William

Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
install -STABLE from CD?

On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
 I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
 code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is Intel Dual Port Server
 Adapter 10/100/1000. Any idea if that will do?

The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless
you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one
in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1
half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
regular PCI). You will need to either:

 1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
 (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)

 2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
 the standard driver in 6.x.

Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the
PCI Express one definately does NOT.

That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and
rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.

Regards
Antony


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-29 Thread Antony Mawer

On 23/06/2006 6:24 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Out of the box the DL 320 G4 ships with a riser card that has 2 pci express
slots.  At least that is what they are supposed to be, we haven't tried
them.

...

If you only do the pci express then the adapter you want is the Intel
Pro 1000 PT  either the single port or the dual port, and make sure
it is the server adapter not the desktop adapter  (the models carry
the same model number but different descriptions, which is infuriating)


We ended up in this same situation, and went down the Intel PCI express 
NIC path (Intel Pro/1000PT). Be advised that, at this stage, the driver 
in both 6.0 and 6.1 -RELEASE does not support this card, but support is 
present in 7-CURRENT.


That being said, with the official Intel driver (v6.0.5, not sure if 
it's released yet), I was able to replace the standard em driver in 6.0, 
build a new kernel, and bring the server up and survive some 
pre-deployment load testing without any hiccups.


Be aware that while the riser card has two PCI Express slots, one is 
half-height, and the Intel NICs (at least the one we received) are a 
full card.


The onboard Broadcom NICs weren't worth the PCBs they were printed on in 
terms of stability -- we were seeing the same hard lockups as Ted and 
didn't have the luxury of time to spend fiddling with it!! From what I 
gather from Ted's previous investigations, there's various work-arounds 
in the Linux driver that work around some shortcomings in the hardware 
itself...


Regards
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

It is fine as long as you buy a 64 bit pc-express intel ethernet card.

The patch I created makes the broadcom chip work without panicing
the kernel

Unfortunately the chip periodically issues a timeout error message and
momentararily downs the interface.

There are a number of complaints in the PR database about this
happening with this driver, with different models of the broadcom
chip in different machines.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Hello again,

 Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
 now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
 an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?

 Regards,

 William

 On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to
  bring it up.
 
  Ted
 
  -Original Message-
  From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  Hi Ted,
  
  Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?
  
  Cheers,
  
  Will
  
  On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi William,
  
 I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
   here:
  
   http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806
  
   Ted
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
   Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
   To: Ted Mittelstaedt
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
   
   
   The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
   very small! :(
   
   On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
if it doesen't work.
   
Ted
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the
  dl320 g4? I've
had a quote back on that model so could be near to
  actually getting
some hardware for once :)

On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
 they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
 but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
 a newer/different chipset in it.
 we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
 monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
 problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
 more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

 c ya ;-)


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-23 Thread William

Wow thats a total pain in the arse, I'll put it through some stress
testing before it gets shipped.

Can you reccomend a card?

On 23/06/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


It is fine as long as you buy a 64 bit pc-express intel ethernet card.

The patch I created makes the broadcom chip work without panicing
the kernel

Unfortunately the chip periodically issues a timeout error message and
momentararily downs the interface.

There are a number of complaints in the PR database about this
happening with this driver, with different models of the broadcom
chip in different machines.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Hello again,

 Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
 now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
 an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?

 Regards,

 William

 On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to
  bring it up.
 
  Ted
 
  -Original Message-
  From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  Hi Ted,
  
  Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?
  
  Cheers,
  
  Will
  
  On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi William,
  
 I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
   here:
  
   http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806
  
   Ted
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
   Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
   To: Ted Mittelstaedt
   Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
   
   
   The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
   very small! :(
   
   On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
if it doesen't work.
   
Ted
   
   
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the
  dl320 g4? I've
had a quote back on that model so could be near to
  actually getting
some hardware for once :)

On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
 they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
 but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
 a newer/different chipset in it.
 we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
 monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
 problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
 more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

 c ya ;-)


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
You got 2 choices

Out of the box the DL 320 G4 ships with a riser card that has 2 pci express
slots.  At least that is what they are supposed to be, we haven't tried
them.

HP sells a riser card that has a single 64 bit PCI 133 slot on it.  You can
buy
that and replace the existing riser.

If you only do the pci express then the adapter you want is the Intel
Pro 1000 PT  either the single port or the dual port, and make sure
it is the server adapter not the desktop adapter  (the models carry
the same model number but different descriptions, which is infuriating)

If you do the riser card replacement then you can use a Pro 1000 MT
server adapter.

If you buy the optional hot-swap module (which I don't think works under
FreeBSD anyhow) then you have to buy the riser card with the pci 133 slot
since that module is not pci express.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


 Wow thats a total pain in the arse, I'll put it through some stress
 testing before it gets shipped.

 Can you reccomend a card?

 On 23/06/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  It is fine as long as you buy a 64 bit pc-express intel ethernet card.
 
  The patch I created makes the broadcom chip work without panicing
  the kernel
 
  Unfortunately the chip periodically issues a timeout error message and
  momentararily downs the interface.
 
  There are a number of complaints in the PR database about this
  happening with this driver, with different models of the broadcom
  chip in different machines.
 
  Ted
 
  - Original Message -
  From: William [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:16 AM
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
   Hello again,
  
   Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
   now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
   an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?
  
   Regards,
  
   William
  
   On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try
to
bring it up.
   
Ted
   
-Original Message-
From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


Hi Ted,

Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?

Cheers,

Will

On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi William,

   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
 here:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
 very small! :(
 
 On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under
6.1-RC1
  when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.
I
  haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can
return it
  if it doesen't work.
 
  Ted
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
William
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the
dl320 g4? I've
  had a quote back on that model so could be near to
actually getting
  some hardware for once :)
  
  On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  
   just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
   they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
   but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
   a newer/different chipset in it.
   we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
   monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
   problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
   26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
   more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4
only).
  
   c ya ;-)
  
  
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-21 Thread William

Hello again,

Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?

Regards,

William

On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to
bring it up.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


Hi Ted,

Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?

Cheers,

Will

On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi William,

   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
 here:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
 very small! :(
 
 On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
  when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
  haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
  if it doesen't work.
 
  Ted
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the
dl320 g4? I've
  had a quote back on that model so could be near to
actually getting
  some hardware for once :)
  
  On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
   they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
   but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
   a newer/different chipset in it.
   we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
   monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
   problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
   26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
   more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
  
   c ya ;-)
  
  
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-05 Thread William

Hi Ted,

Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?

Cheers,

Will

On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi William,

  I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806

Ted

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Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
very small! :(

On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
 when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
 haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
 if it doesen't work.

 Ted


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
 had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
 some hardware for once :)
 
 On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
  they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
  but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
  a newer/different chipset in it.
  we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
  monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
  problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
  26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
  more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
 
  c ya ;-)
 
 
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to 
bring it up.

Ted

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To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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Hi Ted,

Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?

Cheers,

Will

On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi William,

   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
 here:

 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
 To: Ted Mittelstaedt
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
 very small! :(
 
 On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
  when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
  haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
  if it doesen't work.
 
  Ted
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
  Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the 
dl320 g4? I've
  had a quote back on that model so could be near to 
actually getting
  some hardware for once :)
  
  On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
   they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
   but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
   a newer/different chipset in it.
   we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
   monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
   problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
   26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
   more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
  
   c ya ;-)
  
  
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
 
 You may get lucky and get a DL320 G4 that does not have the
 specific Broadcom chip in it.

not sure, but maybe you can specify at least the chipset you
DON'T want in your order (hp should be able to figure it out
using the serial#, and this no. is on the boxes.
the order way would be: check for avail., ask your dealer(s) for
some sn#'s for devices you want, let them check (or check on your
own with hp for the chipset) and order the box (i guess at least
a charge-no. should fit, they don't change the chips all 8hrs).

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Hi All,

  Actually I think I figured out the problem in the driver and I'm going
to test
this tomorrow.

  For those of you smart guys who like math, take a look at the following
change that was made in the driver CVS a couple years ago:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.
37r2=1.38

It looks like at the time the maintainer decided he didn't like all the
nasty magic numbers like 0x3F000F in the code and so replaced
it with some equally nasty macros pointing to other magic numbers,
plus some elaborate shifting of bits to try to generate the magic numbers
he eliminated from the magic numbers he created.

The only problem is that, for example, the bitwise ORing and
shifting he's doing is not going to convert 0x10, 0x13, and 0x0f into
0x3F000F  At least, none that I know about and I spent a couple hours
trying to figure out why he was doing what he did.  Maybe someone
out there can look at this section of code for me and see if they can
figure this out?

More importantly, the specific Broadcom chip (BCM5714) has an exception
in the Linux driver from Broadcom with it's own spechul magic number
different from the magic numbers used for the other chipsets, and
this isn't in the FreeBSD driver.

Ted


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Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4



 You may get lucky and get a DL320 G4 that does not have the
 specific Broadcom chip in it.

not sure, but maybe you can specify at least the chipset you
DON'T want in your order (hp should be able to figure it out
using the serial#, and this no. is on the boxes.
the order way would be: check for avail., ask your dealer(s) for
some sn#'s for devices you want, let them check (or check on your
own with hp for the chipset) and order the box (i guess at least
a charge-no. should fit, they don't change the chips all 8hrs).

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi William,

  I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806

Ted

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
very small! :(

On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
 when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
 haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
 if it doesen't work.

 Ted


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
 had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
 some hardware for once :)
 
 On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
  they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
  but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
  a newer/different chipset in it.
  we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
  monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
  problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
  26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
  more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
 
  c ya ;-)
 
 
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
if it doesen't work.

Ted


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Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
some hardware for once :)

On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
 they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
 but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
 a newer/different chipset in it.
 we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
 monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
 problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
 more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

 c ya ;-)


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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

 I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
 when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
 haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
 if it doesen't work.

did you ever try to install win2k/2k3 on it and apply all fw-patches
from hp to the box? you also could try the fw-upgrade-cd, which is
avail as iso-download on hp.com. the NICs also have upgradeable fw,
check for this (if you didn't ;-))
further, you could check for some special settings, or boot your sys
from the cd, configure the NIC and run some tests (w/o installation
or customization).
what i also wouldn't rule out is a possible hw-defect on your box
(or an older/incompatible chipset revision) even if it works proper
under MS (you tried that, haven't you ;-)?).

beyond you can see some stats from our box so you're probably able to
compare your system to it. the box has been cold-booted before running
an ftp-transfer of 5 and 20mb as a GET and then a transfer to another
host using put (also 5 and 20mb). all run under 6.1-RC2.

ifconfig:
bge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
options=1bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
inet6 fe80::215:60ff:feaa:39d2%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
inet 192.168.134.3 netmask 0xffe0 broadcast 192.168.134.31
ether 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
status: active

some netstat's (i removed sections with all being 0):
tcp:
29512 packets sent
17196 data packets (24848556 bytes)
0 data packets (0 bytes) retransmitted
0 data packets unnecessarily retransmitted
0 resends initiated by MTU discovery
7228 ack-only packets (23 delayed)
0 URG only packets
0 window probe packets
5072 window update packets
16 control packets
25699 packets received
8647 acks (for 24848565 bytes)
7 duplicate acks
0 acks for unsent data
14825 packets (21555935 bytes) received in-sequence
0 completely duplicate packets (0 bytes)
0 old duplicate packets
0 packets with some dup. data (0 bytes duped)
2258 out-of-order packets (3296680 bytes)
0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window
0 window probes
0 window update packets
0 packets received after close
0 discarded for bad checksums
0 discarded for bad header offset fields
0 discarded because packet too short
9 connection requests
0 connection accepts
0 bad connection attempts
0 listen queue overflows
0 ignored RSTs in the windows
9 connections established (including accepts)
14 connections closed (including 0 drops)
4 connections updated cached RTT on close
4 connections updated cached RTT variance on close
0 connections updated cached ssthresh on close
0 embryonic connections dropped
8647 segments updated rtt (of 8473 attempts)
0 retransmit timeouts
0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout
0 persist timeouts
0 connections dropped by persist timeout
0 keepalive timeouts
0 keepalive probes sent
0 connections dropped by keepalive
8489 correct ACK header predictions
14785 correct data packet header predictions
0 syncache entries added
0 retransmitted
0 dupsyn
0 dropped
0 completed
0 bucket overflow
0 cache overflow
0 reset
0 stale
0 aborted
0 badack
0 unreach
0 zone failures
0 cookies sent
0 cookies received
0 SACK recovery episodes
0 segment rexmits in SACK recovery episodes
0 byte rexmits in SACK recovery episodes
0 SACK options (SACK blocks) received
2148 SACK options (SACK blocks) sent
0 SACK scoreboard overflow
udp:
17 datagrams received
0 with incomplete header
0 with bad data length field
0 with bad checksum
0 with no checksum
8 dropped due to no socket
7 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket
0 dropped due to full socket buffers
0 not for hashed pcb
2 delivered
11 datagrams output
ip:
25733 total packets received
0 bad header checksums
0 with size smaller than minimum
0 with data size  data length
0 with ip length  max ip packet size
0 with header length  data size
0 with data length  header 

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread William

The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are very small! :(

On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
if it doesen't work.

Ted


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
some hardware for once :)

On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
 they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
 but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
 a newer/different chipset in it.
 we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
 monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
 problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
 more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

 c ya ;-)


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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Hi All,

  This server is using the Broadcom BCM5704C, the problem child chipset
(that is
discussed in the PR 94307 that I referred to) is the BCM5714.

This is also running a different CPU - your running a 3.4Ghz pentium 4,
we are running
a 2.8Ghz Pentium D.  Your CPU chip ID is 0xf43 ours is 0xf44

  While you can specify different CPU speeds, I would be pretty nervous
in
assuming that simply specifying a different CPU speed would change the
ethernet
chipset on the motherboard.

  If William does go forward with his order I would certainly suggest he
order the
faster server, and cross his fingers.

  NoSpam it would be very useful if you could submit a followup to the PR
94307
with your dmesg, and note that while the server model # is the same the
ethernet
chipset is different.

Ted

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Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4



 What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
 had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
 some hardware for once :)

we didn't really run 6.0-RELEASE on the system, as the 6.1-BETAs had
been out when we bought the server. therefore not really man exp. on
this.

for ted's request, here's the dmesg ;-)


-
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 30 09:42:38 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
ACPI APIC Table: HP 0083
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (3391.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3

Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,
MTRR,PGE,MCA
,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x649dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
  AMD Features=0x2000LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 1073688576 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041743872 (993 MB)
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 48-71 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: HP D18 on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.31.INTA
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci5: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.0 on pci5
pci6: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
bge0: Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100 mem
0xfdff-0xfdff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
miibus0: MII bus on bge0
brgphy0: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge0: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
bge1: Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100 mem
0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 25 at device 1.1 on pci6
miibus1: MII bus on bge1
brgphy1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY on miibus1
brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge1: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d1
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.2 on pci5
pci9: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4
uhci0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A port
0x1000-0x101f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B port
0x1020-0x103f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C port
0x1040-0x105f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D port
0x1060-0x107f irq 19 at device 29.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Just an update, I checked again and our server is running
a 3.0Ghz not a 2.8Ghz pentium D.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:44 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: 'William'
Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4



Hi All,

  This server is using the Broadcom BCM5704C, the problem child
chipset (that is
discussed in the PR 94307 that I referred to) is the BCM5714.

This is also running a different CPU - your running a 3.4Ghz
pentium 4, we are running
a 2.8Ghz Pentium D.  Your CPU chip ID is 0xf43 ours is 0xf44

  While you can specify different CPU speeds, I would be pretty
nervous in
assuming that simply specifying a different CPU speed would
change the ethernet
chipset on the motherboard.

  If William does go forward with his order I would certainly
suggest he order the
faster server, and cross his fingers.

  NoSpam it would be very useful if you could submit a followup
to the PR 94307
with your dmesg, and note that while the server model # is the
same the ethernet
chipset is different.

Ted

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Cc: 'William'
Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4



 What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
 had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
 some hardware for once :)

we didn't really run 6.0-RELEASE on the system, as the 6.1-BETAs had
been out when we bought the server. therefore not really man exp. on
this.

for ted's request, here's the dmesg ;-)


-
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992,
1993, 1994
  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 30 09:42:38 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
ACPI APIC Table: HP 0083
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (3391.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3

Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,
MTRR,PGE,MCA
,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x649dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
  AMD Features=0x2000LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 1073688576 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041743872 (993 MB)
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 48-71 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: HP D18 on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.31.INTA
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci5: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.0 on pci5
pci6: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
bge0: Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100 mem
0xfdff-0xfdff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
miibus0: MII bus on bge0
brgphy0: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge0: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
bge1: Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100 mem
0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 25 at device 1.1 on pci6
miibus1: MII bus on bge1
brgphy1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY on miibus1
brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge1: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d1
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.2 on pci5
pci9: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4
uhci0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A port
0x1000-0x101f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B port
0x1020-0x103f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C port
0x1040-0x105f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

The first thing we did was install W2K on it and run the HP utility that
updates all firmware - before even trying FreeBSD on it.

Did I mention in the PR that the Broadcom driver for Linux works
flawlessly under OpenSUSE?  I think I did.

Windows also works fine on the box as well (that is, Windows works
as well on it as it works on any other system which isn't much)

The problem is a bug in the bge driver.  Many other people have
filed PR's in the FreeBSD database that refer to problems on a wide
variety of different server hardware, all containing this one specific
chip.  With panics giving the same error message.

Read the PR's cited, it's all there.

Ted

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Cc: 'William'
Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4



 I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
 when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
 haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
 if it doesen't work.

did you ever try to install win2k/2k3 on it and apply all fw-patches
from hp to the box? you also could try the fw-upgrade-cd, which is
avail as iso-download on hp.com. the NICs also have upgradeable fw,
check for this (if you didn't ;-))
further, you could check for some special settings, or boot your sys
from the cd, configure the NIC and run some tests (w/o installation
or customization).
what i also wouldn't rule out is a possible hw-defect on your box
(or an older/incompatible chipset revision) even if it works proper
under MS (you tried that, haven't you ;-)?).

beyond you can see some stats from our box so you're probably able to
compare your system to it. the box has been cold-booted before running
an ftp-transfer of 5 and 20mb as a GET and then a transfer to another
host using put (also 5 and 20mb). all run under 6.1-RC2.

ifconfig:
bge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   options=1bRXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING
   inet6 fe80::215:60ff:feaa:39d2%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
   inet 192.168.134.3 netmask 0xffe0 broadcast 192.168.134.31
   ether 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
   media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX full-duplex)
   status: active

some netstat's (i removed sections with all being 0):
tcp:
   29512 packets sent
   17196 data packets (24848556 bytes)
   0 data packets (0 bytes) retransmitted
   0 data packets unnecessarily retransmitted
   0 resends initiated by MTU discovery
   7228 ack-only packets (23 delayed)
   0 URG only packets
   0 window probe packets
   5072 window update packets
   16 control packets
   25699 packets received
   8647 acks (for 24848565 bytes)
   7 duplicate acks
   0 acks for unsent data
   14825 packets (21555935 bytes) received in-sequence
   0 completely duplicate packets (0 bytes)
   0 old duplicate packets
   0 packets with some dup. data (0 bytes duped)
   2258 out-of-order packets (3296680 bytes)
   0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window
   0 window probes
   0 window update packets
   0 packets received after close
   0 discarded for bad checksums
   0 discarded for bad header offset fields
   0 discarded because packet too short
   9 connection requests
   0 connection accepts
   0 bad connection attempts
   0 listen queue overflows
   0 ignored RSTs in the windows
   9 connections established (including accepts)
   14 connections closed (including 0 drops)
   4 connections updated cached RTT on close
   4 connections updated cached RTT variance on close
   0 connections updated cached ssthresh on close
   0 embryonic connections dropped
   8647 segments updated rtt (of 8473 attempts)
   0 retransmit timeouts
   0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout
   0 persist timeouts
   0 connections dropped by persist timeout
   0 keepalive timeouts
   0 keepalive probes sent
   0 connections dropped by keepalive
   8489 correct ACK header predictions
   14785 correct data packet header predictions
   0 syncache entries added
   0 retransmitted
   0 dupsyn
   0 dropped
   0 completed
   0 bucket overflow
   0 cache overflow
   0 reset
   0 stale
   0 aborted
   0 badack
   0 unreach
   0 zone failures
   0 cookies sent
   0 cookies received
   0 SACK recovery episodes
   0 segment rexmits

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Then be prepared to either fix the driver, pay a developer to
fix the driver, or buy a 64 bit nic that fits in the slot in
the server and that is a different chipset.

You may get lucky and get a DL320 G4 that does not have the
specific Broadcom chip in it.

Ted

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
very small! :(

On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
 when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
 haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
 if it doesen't work.

 Ted


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
 had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
 some hardware for once :)
 
 On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
  they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
  but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
  a newer/different chipset in it.
  we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
  monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
  problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
  26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
  more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
 
  c ya ;-)
 
 
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-02 Thread William

What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
some hardware for once :)

On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
a newer/different chipset in it.
we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

c ya ;-)



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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

 What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
 had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
 some hardware for once :)

we didn't really run 6.0-RELEASE on the system, as the 6.1-BETAs had
been out when we bought the server. therefore not really man exp. on
this.

for ted's request, here's the dmesg ;-)

-
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 30 09:42:38 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
ACPI APIC Table: HP 0083
Timecounter i8254 frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (3391.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = GenuineIntel  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
 
Features=0xbfebfbffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA
,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
  Features2=0x649dSSE3,RSVD2,MON,DS_CPL,EST,CNTX-ID,CX16,b14
  AMD Features=0x2000LM
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 1073688576 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041743872 (993 MB)
ioapic0 Version 2.0 irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1 Version 2.0 irqs 24-47 on motherboard
ioapic2 Version 2.0 irqs 48-71 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0: HP D18 on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter ACPI-fast frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: 24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0
cpu0: ACPI CPU on acpi0
pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0
pci0: ACPI PCI bus on pcib0
pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.31.INTA
pcib1: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 1.0 on pci0
pci5: ACPI PCI bus on pcib1
pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.0 on pci5
pci6: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2
bge0: Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100 mem
0xfdff-0xfdff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
miibus0: MII bus on bge0
brgphy0: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge0: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
bge1: Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100 mem
0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 25 at device 1.1 on pci6
miibus1: MII bus on bge1
brgphy1: BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY on miibus1
brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge1: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d1
pcib3: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 0.2 on pci5
pci9: ACPI PCI bus on pcib3
pcib4: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib4
uhci0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A port
0x1000-0x101f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-A on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B port
0x1020-0x103f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-B on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C port
0x1040-0x105f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-C on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D port
0x1060-0x107f irq 19 at device 29.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3: Intel 82801FB/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6) USB controller USB-D on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0: Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller mem 0xfbef-0xfbef03ff
irq 16 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4: Intel 82801FB (ICH6) USB 2.0 controller on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
umass0: USB Flash Disk, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2
pcib5: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1: ACPI PCI bus on pcib5
pci1: base peripheral at device 2.0 (no driver attached)
pci1: base peripheral at device 2.2 (no driver attached)
pci1: display, VGA at device 3.0 (no driver attached)
isab0: PCI-ISA bridge at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0: ISA bus on isab0
atapci0: Intel ICH6 UDMA100 controller port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x500-0x50f irq 7 at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: ATA channel 0 on atapci0
ata1: ATA channel 1 on atapci0
atapci1: Intel ICH6 SATA150 controller port

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Would you please post a dmesg for this?

They may have added an exception for the first chipset rev
of the bge used on this server.  There are 2 revs that I know
of (so far)

Ted

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Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 7:58 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4



just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
a newer/different chipset in it.
we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

c ya ;-)

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
a newer/different chipset in it.
we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

c ya ;-)

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread William

Ted,

Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?

Cheers,

Will

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.

Ted

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Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?

Regards,

William

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
 firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
 on their metadata format, as he requested.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 
  Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
  with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
  anything else mentioning):
 
  HP DL140 G2
  HP DL145 G2
  HP DL320 G4
  HP DL360 G4
 
 we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
 1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
 as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
 hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
 controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
 using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
 3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
 fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
 in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
 
 nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
 no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
 many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
 with 8 interfaces).
 
 thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
 close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
 numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
 temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
 
 also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
 is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
 have to check for errors like this on your own.
 
 furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
 if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
 hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
 the list.
 
 btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
 of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
 know!
 
 best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
 
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Hi William,

  No.  Soren added a bunch of error checking code in the ata driver
for 6.1 to reject oddball cases and one of the things it does is ignore
the
disks on this particular server if the RAID functionality is turned
on in the BIOS.  However, even though FreeBSD 6.0 sees the disks if the
RAID setup is switched on in BIOS, it does not see the RAID array so
it is pretty much an error to have this BIOS option turned on.

  Until support for the Adaptec metadata format is added, the
RAID firmware in this server is useless.

  But you still can get RAID going on the server now by doing this:

Turn off SATA Raid in the BIOS.  Install a scratch version of
FreeBSD.  Login as root issue the command atacontrol create RAID1 ad4
ad6
Immediately reboot.  Reinstall FreeBSD on disk ar0

This will give you chipset RAID just you can't rebuild the array from
the BIOS.

More importantly, though, is trouble with the Ethernet chipset.

During the install it will ask if you want to configure the
Ethernet interface.  Do not do this.  If you do the system will
immediately panic.

Once the system is up and running, recompile the kernel to use the
fix discussed in PR  kern/94307.  A discussion of how you might
go about implementing this fix is in PR kern/94863

Unfortunately the bge maintainers) are very loath to believe that
they are going to have to make exceptions in their code for all
the different hacked up variants of this Ethernet chipset, but
in reviewing the PR database I suspect this is the case.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:27 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


Ted,

Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?

Cheers,

Will

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
 settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
 
 Regards,
 
 William
 
 On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
  firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
  on their metadata format, as he requested.
 
  Ted
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  
   Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share
their experience
   with the following products (in regards of network/sata
support and
   anything else mentioning):
  
   HP DL140 G2
   HP DL145 G2
   HP DL320 G4
   HP DL360 G4
  
  we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
  1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
  as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
  hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
  controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
  using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
  3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
  fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
  in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
  
  nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
  no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
  many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on
a machine
  with 8 interfaces).
  
  thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
  close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
  numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
  temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
  
  also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan
fail, etc...)
  is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
  have to check for errors like this on your own.
  
  furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
  if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
  hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
  the list.
  
  btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
  of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
  know!
  
  best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
  
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread William

Hi Ted,

Thanks for the information regarding the Ethernet chipset, does the
same thing happen if you configure the interface via rc.conf/ifconfig
once the system is up and running?

If the ethernet chipset support at the moment is flakey then I might
have to look at a different vender, ethernet being one of the most
important devices I need working for what I'm after! :(

Cheers,

Will

On 29/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi William,

  No.  Soren added a bunch of error checking code in the ata driver
for 6.1 to reject oddball cases and one of the things it does is ignore
the
disks on this particular server if the RAID functionality is turned
on in the BIOS.  However, even though FreeBSD 6.0 sees the disks if the
RAID setup is switched on in BIOS, it does not see the RAID array so
it is pretty much an error to have this BIOS option turned on.

  Until support for the Adaptec metadata format is added, the
RAID firmware in this server is useless.

  But you still can get RAID going on the server now by doing this:

Turn off SATA Raid in the BIOS.  Install a scratch version of
FreeBSD.  Login as root issue the command atacontrol create RAID1 ad4
ad6
Immediately reboot.  Reinstall FreeBSD on disk ar0

This will give you chipset RAID just you can't rebuild the array from
the BIOS.

More importantly, though, is trouble with the Ethernet chipset.

During the install it will ask if you want to configure the
Ethernet interface.  Do not do this.  If you do the system will
immediately panic.

Once the system is up and running, recompile the kernel to use the
fix discussed in PR  kern/94307.  A discussion of how you might
go about implementing this fix is in PR kern/94863

Unfortunately the bge maintainers) are very loath to believe that
they are going to have to make exceptions in their code for all
the different hacked up variants of this Ethernet chipset, but
in reviewing the PR database I suspect this is the case.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:27 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


Ted,

Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?

Cheers,

Will

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
 settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
 
 Regards,
 
 William
 
 On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
  firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
  on their metadata format, as he requested.
 
  Ted
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  
   Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share
their experience
   with the following products (in regards of network/sata
support and
   anything else mentioning):
  
   HP DL140 G2
   HP DL145 G2
   HP DL320 G4
   HP DL360 G4
  
  we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
  1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
  as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
  hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
  controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
  using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
  3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
  fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
  in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
  
  nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
  no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
  many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on
a machine
  with 8 interfaces).
  
  thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
  close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
  numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
  temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
  
  also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan
fail, etc...)
  is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
  have to check for errors like this on your own.
  
  furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
  if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
  hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
  the list.
  
  btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
  of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
  know

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

No, what happens if you configure it via rc.conf is the server
stays up for about a minute then panics, rather than panicing
immediately.

Perhaps if you e-mailed the bge maintainer and referenced the
PRs on the Ethernet, they might be willing to fix the driver.
Otherwise I'm going to look at it next week since I have one
of these servers and I can't return it. :-(  Another possibility
is installing another ethernet card in the server's expansion
slot.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:47 AM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


Hi Ted,

Thanks for the information regarding the Ethernet chipset, does the
same thing happen if you configure the interface via rc.conf/ifconfig
once the system is up and running?

If the ethernet chipset support at the moment is flakey then I might
have to look at a different vender, ethernet being one of the most
important devices I need working for what I'm after! :(

Cheers,

Will

On 29/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi William,

   No.  Soren added a bunch of error checking code in the ata driver
 for 6.1 to reject oddball cases and one of the things it does
is ignore
 the
 disks on this particular server if the RAID functionality is turned
 on in the BIOS.  However, even though FreeBSD 6.0 sees the
disks if the
 RAID setup is switched on in BIOS, it does not see the RAID array so
 it is pretty much an error to have this BIOS option turned on.

   Until support for the Adaptec metadata format is added, the
 RAID firmware in this server is useless.

   But you still can get RAID going on the server now by doing this:

 Turn off SATA Raid in the BIOS.  Install a scratch version of
 FreeBSD.  Login as root issue the command atacontrol create RAID1 ad4
 ad6
 Immediately reboot.  Reinstall FreeBSD on disk ar0

 This will give you chipset RAID just you can't rebuild the array from
 the BIOS.

 More importantly, though, is trouble with the Ethernet chipset.

 During the install it will ask if you want to configure the
 Ethernet interface.  Do not do this.  If you do the system will
 immediately panic.

 Once the system is up and running, recompile the kernel to use the
 fix discussed in PR  kern/94307.  A discussion of how you might
 go about implementing this fix is in PR kern/94863

 Unfortunately the bge maintainers) are very loath to believe that
 they are going to have to make exceptions in their code for all
 the different hacked up variants of this Ethernet chipset, but
 in reviewing the PR database I suspect this is the case.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
 Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:27 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 Ted,
 
 Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?
 
 Cheers,
 
 Will
 
 On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
  settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.
 
  Ted
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
  Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
  To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
  
  
  Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
  
  Regards,
  
  William
  
  On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
   firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
   on their metadata format, as he requested.
  
   Ted
  
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
   Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
   To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
   
   
   
Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share
 their experience
with the following products (in regards of network/sata
 support and
anything else mentioning):
   
HP DL140 G2
HP DL145 G2
HP DL320 G4
HP DL360 G4
   
   we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
   1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
   as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
   hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
   controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
   using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
   3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
   fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by
os-command, pluggin'
   in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
   
   nw/chipset support is working (at least on all
machines we use).
   no performance issues, except you configure as router
and you use
   many different irq's for all interfaces (only

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
 
 RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
 firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
 on their metadata format, as he requested.

hi,
we're using 6.1-RC1 on a DL320 G4 with raidctl, which perfectly
fit's our needs. the metadata being written by the bios-fw of the
onboard-controller (adaptec) is really not readable by the os, but
this doesn't prevent us from having our os being installed on raid1.
you only have to boot freebsd, go to the shell, use raidctl to create
an ar0 using ad4 and ad6 and then install the os directly onto ar0.
even booting is not an issue.
[-thx 2 soren, he pointed us in the right direction upon this :-)]

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread William
Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?

Regards,

William

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
 firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
 on their metadata format, as he requested.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
 Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 
  Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
  with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
  anything else mentioning):
 
  HP DL140 G2
  HP DL145 G2
  HP DL320 G4
  HP DL360 G4
 
 we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
 1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
 as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
 hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
 controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
 using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
 3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
 fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
 in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
 
 nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
 no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
 many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
 with 8 interfaces).
 
 thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
 close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
 numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
 temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
 
 also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
 is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
 have to check for errors like this on your own.
 
 furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
 if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
 hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
 the list.
 
 btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
 of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
 know!
 
 best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
 
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Let me ask you this:

  Would you, right now, feel comfortable walking into your server room
and
yanking out one of the SATA drives?  Then shut down the server, install
the
drive back in, and initiate the rebuild?

  I have done just that to our production Compaqs with SCSI arrays on
the intelligent controller, of course I don't have to down the server to
rebuild
the array since the controller does it automatically when you put the
drive
back in.  It is one of the most effective sales tools we have, we've sold
several servers by doing this.

  I would also feel comfortable doing it to a server running the 3ware
raid card.

  I don't know I'd feel comfortable with doing this with raidctl but I
probably
are going to end up testing this out since that's probably what we are
going to
have to end up doing with ours, at least until Soren reverse engineers
the Adaptec
metadata format for some future version of FreeBSD.

  But if I had known about this problem in advance I would never have
bought
the server.

Ted

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Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ted Mittelstaedt'
Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4



 RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
 firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
 on their metadata format, as he requested.

hi,
we're using 6.1-RC1 on a DL320 G4 with raidctl, which perfectly
fit's our needs. the metadata being written by the bios-fw of the
onboard-controller (adaptec) is really not readable by the os, but
this doesn't prevent us from having our os being installed on raid1.
you only have to boot freebsd, go to the shell, use raidctl to create
an ar0 using ad4 and ad6 and then install the os directly onto ar0.
even booting is not an issue.
[-thx 2 soren, he pointed us in the right direction upon this :-)]

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?

Regards,

William

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
 firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
 on their metadata format, as he requested.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
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 Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
 
 
 
  Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
  with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
  anything else mentioning):
 
  HP DL140 G2
  HP DL145 G2
  HP DL320 G4
  HP DL360 G4
 
 we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
 1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
 as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
 hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
 controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
 using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
 3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
 fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
 in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
 
 nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
 no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
 many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
 with 8 interfaces).
 
 thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
 close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
 numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
 temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
 
 also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
 is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
 have to check for errors like this on your own.
 
 furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
 if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
 hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
 the list.
 
 btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
 of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
 know!
 
 best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
 
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FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-27 Thread William
Hello list,

We are currently looking for a commercial off the shelf server to roll
out our servers on running FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE.

Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
anything else mentioning):

HP DL140 G2
HP DL145 G2
HP DL320 G4
HP DL360 G4

If you could CC me onto any replies as I'm currently not subscribed to the list.

Thank you for your time.

Regards,

William
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

 Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
 with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
 anything else mentioning):

 HP DL140 G2
 HP DL145 G2
 HP DL320 G4
 HP DL360 G4

we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)

nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
with 8 interfaces).

thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.

also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
have to check for errors like this on your own.

furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
the list.

btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
know!

best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-27 Thread William
Thanks for your email,

I'm really happy to hear about the support, I'm looking at using the
sata disks! I'm not sure else to ask you have covered pretty much
everything.

Regards,

William

On 27/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
  with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
  anything else mentioning):
 
  HP DL140 G2
  HP DL145 G2
  HP DL320 G4
  HP DL360 G4

 we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
 1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
 as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
 hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
 controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
 using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
 3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
 fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
 in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)

 nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
 no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
 many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
 with 8 interfaces).

 thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
 close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
 numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
 temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.

 also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
 is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
 have to check for errors like this on your own.

 furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
 if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
 hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
 the list.

 btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
 of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
 know!

 best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)


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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
on their metadata format, as he requested.

Ted

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 Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
 with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
 anything else mentioning):

 HP DL140 G2
 HP DL145 G2
 HP DL320 G4
 HP DL360 G4

we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)

nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
with 8 interfaces).

thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.

also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
have to check for errors like this on your own.

furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
the list.

btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
know!

best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)

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