Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. Please correct me if I'm wrong: GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? Thanks. Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:19:51AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably. Check that hardware compatibility list. In this case it would be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system. Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. Thanks demons! That is daemon, not demon. There is a big difference. jerry Olivier Nicole wrote: I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. it is an option depending on your installation menthod. Please correct me if I'm wrong: GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? Thanks. There are several ways to install FreeBSD. The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, burn it and boot the machine with it. You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet connection. Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this CD. GNOME was earlier always included. After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection. Erich ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Thank you for explanation :) So, if GNOME/KDE can be installed on FreeBSD, what are the advantages of BSD-based desktop systems like DesktopBSD/PC-BSD over FreeBSD? just the graphical installer? Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. it is an option depending on your installation menthod. Please correct me if I'm wrong: GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? Thanks. There are several ways to install FreeBSD. The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, burn it and boot the machine with it. You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet connection. Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this CD. GNOME was earlier always included. After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection. Erich Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: Thank you for explanation :) So, if GNOME/KDE can be installed on FreeBSD, what are the advantages of BSD-based desktop systems like DesktopBSD/PC-BSD over FreeBSD? just the graphical installer? those projects make FreeBSD easier to install and administer. I never tried one of them. Friends did but faced later smaller problems. They all could be solved the FreeBSD way. So, staying with FreeBSD gives the advantage of working with the real thing and the disadvantage of handling more complex matters in real strange ways. It is all so simple for people working with FreeBSD since years but it looks strange for people coming from different professions ... Erich Erich Dollansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. it is an option depending on your installation menthod. Please correct me if I'm wrong: GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? Thanks. There are several ways to install FreeBSD. The simplest would be the download of an ISO image of for the first CD, burn it and boot the machine with it. You can then install all packages from the CD without an Internet connection. Normally, all the things needed to have a decent computer are on this CD. GNOME was earlier always included. After FreeBSD is up and running, you can install the ports system and install any program from the ports collection via an Internet connection. Erich Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 03:34:31AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. Please correct me if I'm wrong: GNOME (or KDE) in included in FreeBSD downloaded file but it isn't installed by default, but it can be installed during installation process if I want to. If I'm wrong, does this mean that I have to connect to Internet during FreeBSD installation? Thanks. This depends on which ISO you use and your method of installation. I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - sysinstall - and download everything over the net during installation. But, you can install from the stuff on the CD set and Gnome and KDE are in that set as well as many other things. Note that ports are continuously updated, so the one you install over the net could be newer than the one from the CD. jerry Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:19:51AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably. Check that hardware compatibility list. In this case it would be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system. Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. Thanks demons! That is daemon, not demon. There is a big difference. jerry Olivier Nicole wrote: I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - sysinstall - and download everything over the net during installation. I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is latest. So do you think I can: 1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network 2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD Thanks. Arthur ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:14:52AM -0500, arthur wrote: I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - sysinstall - and download everything over the net during installation. I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is latest. So do you think I can: 1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network 2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD No. You really want to download the 7.0 ISO and burn it and install the applications intended for that level. You could make it work, but you don't want to. jerry Thanks. Arthur ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Got it. Looks I will go with the floppy boot (don't want burn too many CD's, and burning CDRW is slower than boot from floppy). Thank you for the quick response. Arthur - Original Message - From: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arthur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lone Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:13 AM Subject: Re: Is my hard ware sufficient? On Wed, Feb 20, 2008 at 11:14:52AM -0500, arthur wrote: I normally just use the cd to load the installation programs - sysinstall - and download everything over the net during installation. I have v6.2 cd but I am going to try 7.0, but I don't mind if the KDE/app is latest. So do you think I can: 1. boot with 6.2CD, run sysinstall, then install v7.0 over the network 2. install kde or other app to v7.0 installation from a 6.2 CD No. You really want to download the 7.0 ISO and burn it and install the applications intended for that level. You could make it work, but you don't want to. jerry Thanks. Arthur ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:39:03AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: Hi. I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Thanks. Yes, that is more than enough to run FreeBSD. Depending on what you want to do you might want to invest in more RAM, but unless you intend to run several memory-hungry applications at the same time you should not have a problem. -- Insert your favourite quote here. Erik Trulsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Hi. I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? pentium 75 with 32MB RAM is sufficient for FreeBSD to work well. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Lone Wolf wrote: I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? Vanilla FreeBSD doesn't come bundled with anything. But, yes you may install GNOME, KDE, Xfce or any of the light window manager for X. Unless you have at least 256 Mb of RAM and 10Gb HD I would not think about the GNOME. Thanks demons! Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Hi, Lone Wolf wrote: I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . I run it on a smaller machine than this but with more RAM. Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? This sounds like an overkill. I would say anything from 4MB onwards will be fine. Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? Not in that sense. But you can choose to install GNOME during the first installation. I would recommend to install a plain FreeBSD without X first. If you have a good Internet connection, just add the ports than as binary packages. If your Internet connection is not this good, install whatever you want from CD. Install only the missing pieces in the third step via Internet. Erich Thanks demons! Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? Thanks demons! Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Lone Wolf wrote: Hi. I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Thanks. Sufficient for what? What do you want to run on that computer? A workstation? A firewall? A mail server? Apache? Assuming you want to run a work station I would recommend at least 256Mb or RAM. The more is the better. Your BIOS would probably see up to 512Mb RAM. CPU speed is more than enough . I would use at lest 6Gb HD for a work station. You computer would with above specifications would make a great thin client, firewall, home made router or DNS server. Cheers, Predrag Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
Should be more then enough with the graphic card. My desktop comp is an AMD Duron 1,2Ghz, 512MB ram and the graphic card has 32MB. X11 makes 1280x1024 in truecolor mode without much effort (is a good graphic card what is integrated in the mainboard, SIS-chip). Can watch videos and dragging windows without delay and so on. So nothing to worry about.. Cheers herbs On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:19:51 -0800 (PST) Lone Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? Thanks demons! Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
installation. I would recommend to install a plain FreeBSD without X first. me too, and never use things like gnome, kde etc.. anyway. it doesn't offer anything more than cool look and fancy things like files dragged by mouse etc. etc. for efficient graphics environment i would recommend just good window manager like fvwm2, icewm, add more here ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is my hard ware sufficient?
Hi. I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Thanks. Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:19:51AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: I'm not going to serve any one, I just want to take a small test drive with FreeBSD . Regarding my graphic card, it is 32 MB, is it ok? I suppose it depends on the graphics card model, but probably. Check that hardware compatibility list. In this case it would be compatibility with Xorg since that is the display/graphics system. Does FreeBSD come bundled with GNOME? It is not bundled. Almost nothing is bundled. But it is available in ports and installing it is one of the special options during a standard installtion. Thanks demons! That is daemon, not demon. There is a big difference. jerry Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Sufficient to do what? Until not so long ago, my DNS server was a PIII 550 MHz, with something like 120 MB RAM, serving about 150 clients. I changed the hardware mostly because I had bigger machines available. Olivier Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is my hard ware sufficient?
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 12:39:03AM -0800, Lone Wolf wrote: Hi. I'm thinking to install FreeBSD on my old PC. --- Processor: Intel Celeron 1.3 GH RAM: 192 MB --- Is my hard ware sufficient? Thanks. Sure. How much disk do you have available? You might want to look at the hardware compatibility page for the version you intend to install, on the FreeBSD web site jerry Deep into that darkness peering, long I stood there, wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no mortal ever dreamed before. E.A Poe - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
