Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-20 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2007-01-19 15:21, Ceri Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the text. My editor also positions the

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-20 Thread Michael
Greg Albrecht wrote: On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top-posting defined simply ... A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-20 Thread Michael
Michael wrote: Greg Albrecht wrote: On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top-posting defined simply ... A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-20 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 20 January 2007 at 20:55:54 -0800, Michael wrote: Greg Albrecht wrote: ps: there's no need to reiterate how 'hard' it is for you to have to 'scroll down' to read the original message in a reply, how is that any different than me having to scroll down to read your reply? I hadn't

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Gerard
On Thursday January 18, 2007 at 08:33:32 (PM) Jay Chandler wrote: Murray Taylor wrote: -Original Message- From: Greg Albrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:42 AM To: Murray Taylor Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-19 Thread Robert Huff
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: For example, you can hold a gun to someone's head and make them sign a contract. The second you walk away they take the contract to a court and bam, it's invalidated because they signed under duress. And if you look at recent court decisions, the definition

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 03:24:44PM -0800, Greg Albrecht wrote: On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top-posting defined simply ... A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the text. My editor also positions the cursor at the very top when I reply to a message. But

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 11:32:38AM +1100, Murray Taylor wrote: Exactly! And not only my .sig which I do have control over whether I add it or not, and also the [EMAIL PROTECTED] stupid corporate disclaimer also (over which I have no control) sigh Though you could presumably add an

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Friday January 19, 2007 at 10:21:24 (AM) Ceri Davies wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the text. My editor also

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-19 Thread Joe Holden
Gerard Seibert wrote: On Friday January 19, 2007 at 10:21:24 (AM) Ceri Davies wrote: On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:42:54AM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: I think the biggest problem with Microsoft MUAs is not where they position the cursor, but the difficulty they cause in editing the text.

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-19 Thread Tore Lund
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Top posting is only one issue. Others of great importance are trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of things that people should remove from replies. Hmmm. While I can

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-19 Thread Bill Moran
In response to Tore Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Top posting is only one issue. Others of great importance are trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of things that people

Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
[heavily trimmed, subject line clarified, format breakage recovered] On Thursday, 18 January 2007 at 16:31:41 +1100, Murray Taylor wrote: On Thursday, 18 January 2007 11:48 AM, Dak Ghatikachalam wrote: What if someone is emailing from a thread while I am replying at the same time, would that

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Greg Albrecht
On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top-posting defined simply ... A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail? Unfortunately all

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-18 Thread Peter A. Giessel
On 2007/01/18 14:24, Greg Albrecht seems to have typed: threading of messages. this allows me to see each reply to a message after the original message, in succession. i understand that different people configure and use their email clients in different ways, but why is there such a pandering

Re: Mail etiquette

2007-01-18 Thread Greg Albrecht
On 18/01/07, Peter A. Giessel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2007/01/18 14:24, Greg Albrecht seems to have typed: threading of messages. this allows me to see each reply to a message after the original message, in succession. i understand that different people configure and use their email

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Erik Osterholm
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 03:24:44PM -0800, Greg Albrecht wrote: On 18/01/07, Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top posting is only one issue. Others of great importance are trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and not writing one-line paragraphs. Your

RE: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Murray Taylor
-Original Message- From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 10:13 AM To: Murray Taylor Cc: Dak Ghatikachalam; freebsd-questions Subject: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) [heavily trimmed, subject line clarified

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Greg Albrecht
On 18/01/07, Murray Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top posting is only one issue. Others of great importance are trimming your posts, not breaking the lines into tiny fragments, and not writing one-line paragraphs. Your .sig is a good example of things that people should remove from

RE: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Murray Taylor
-Original Message- From: Greg Albrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:42 AM To: Murray Taylor Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) On 18/01/07, Murray Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Top posting

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Jay Chandler
Murray Taylor wrote: -Original Message- From: Greg Albrecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 11:42 AM To: Murray Taylor Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) On 18/01/07, Murray Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote

[OT] mail disclaimers [ was Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) ]

2007-01-18 Thread Matt Emmerton
[ snip much ado about mail etiquette and sigs and whatnot ] I started using the lists from work years ago when I was establishing the FreeBSD servers and it was easier to get QA stuff done... Since then the weenies have come along and changed out a perfectly servicable Postfix / Cyrus

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Amarendra Godbole
On 1/19/07, Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of these disclaimers ever proven to be even the slightest bit legally enforceable? I mean, for God's sake, they're at the bottom of the message, essentially telling you not to read the message you just read. [...] They *assume* that

Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term)

2007-01-18 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
- Original Message - From: Jay Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Mail etiquette (was: What is this mean by this term) Have any of these disclaimers ever proven to be even