Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On 10/13/13 17:38, Thomas Mueller wrote: On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Apparently that won't solve much. The primary issue now with watching flash movies is the drm - on linux it somehow uses hal and dbus, on windows it uses the registry. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On the question of playing Adobe Flash in FreeBSD, could one use the MS-Windows 32-bit version with (i386-)Wine? I plan to try that. Tom ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:31:56 +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Maybe graphics/librsvg2 is better suited (even though it's version 2 of the library). The problem initially mentions will remain: lots of installation dependencies. Sadly, that seems to be normal today as modern software tends to rely on layers of libraries of abstraction of tools of utilities of stuff of layers of layers of other abstractions. :-) As you see: gnome-desktop and gtk20. That should bring your warning lights up: lots of dependencies ahead! When you try to install a simple desktop environment, you'll be confronted with hundreds of packages to be installed, some of them you've probably never had thought of in regards of what you need to install a desktop, such as two or more different databases, LaTeX, translators, and other surprising stuff. This will probably apply to most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 toolkits (as mentioned above). As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. It might require you to re-install your target application to link against that library. A library libsvg.so (without version number) doesn't seem to be in the ports tree by that name. My lazy man's method of searching what port might contain the library: Midnight Commander, go to /usr/ports, Meta-?, seach in pkg-plist, search for text librsvg and examine the results with PF3. This method relies on approaches that might be wrong... :-) Note that my (locally installed) ports tree is not up to date anymore so you should consider performing a search on a recent tree to make sure I didn't miss anything. Thanks Polytropon, but the one I needed was this: x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop/pkg-plist:%%PYTHON_SITELIBDIR%%/gtk-2.0/ rsvg.so I have given in, let it install all 80 ports, saved the one shlib I need and deleted the ports again. All is now well. By the way, I needed it for the 'screenlets' Python applications; in particular ClockScreenlet.py. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used, that it will be free and covered by the GPL. Its unlikely to happen unless we start a campaign among the Free Software users of the world to make Flash free software. Yes, I know HTML 5 is just around the corner, but we've seen a concerted effort already (in the European Parliament at least) to introduce DRM into HTML 5 and though it may make using Flash marginally easier, it would be a retrograde step if DRM is to be introduced. So what are we left with? Free software to replicate what Flash does (at least) that does not have the taint of proprietary software? Is that not an achievable goal? I can't code but would be willing to join a project with those achievable goals, but it hasn't appeared yet, so I don't seriously expect it will happen any time soon. ++ Graham Todd signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:28:40 +0100, gct7photogra...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know what others think, but what *I* really want is that the free software versions of Flash (gnash and klash, etc) work at least as well as versions of Adobe Flash do, or if versions of Adobe Flash are to be used, that it will be free and covered by the GPL. First of all, keep in mind you're walking corporate territory here. No company will give you anything for free, and even if it looks free, there's a catch somewhere. Flash as a technology is dying. It didn't make the transition to the growing mobile markets. That's why Adobe does not continue its Linux line of product - a completely reasoname business decision. People who use, or to be correct, _abuse_ Flash as a replace- ment for markup and content are not interested in bringing their product to your attention and reception. What I'd like to see would be a Flash plugin integrated in the web browser, with the option of being switched off. I'd consider it a 1st class citizen by demanding that is has the same status as embedded media, centered text, a PNG image or a hyperlink, being a functional module of the web browser like the renderer, the CSS interpreter, the JS interpreter or something like that. Could you imagine to install a pro- prietary plugin to be able to see a JPG image? To see text centered? To click on a hyperlink? And all the time keep in mind that it is backdoored? Hmmm... Its unlikely to happen unless we start a campaign among the Free Software users of the world to make Flash free software. That won't happen. Flash is the property of a corporation. The only alternative I see is that this corporation would donate the product, releasing all the sources and abandoning all involved lawyer-crap. But that won't happen. I think most companies better close away the stuff they won't develop anymore instead of handing it over to a community. Yes, I know HTML 5 is just around the corner, but we've seen a concerted effort already (in the European Parliament at least) to introduce DRM into HTML 5 and though it may make using Flash marginally easier, it would be a retrograde step if DRM is to be introduced. As far as I know, DRM will be covered by the upcoming standard. This means it will be _possible_ to implement DRM solutions in HTML. _Using_ them - that's a totally different field. Keep in mind an important thing: Alternatives for Flash have been around for a decade at least. Video, audio, interaction - all possible without it. It's not just about the browser plugin (the player), it's also about the creative tools that people use to produce the stuff. Those tools are offered usually in expensive commercially distributed suites. As soon as developers and creators get aware of alternatives that they can learn and use for free, they _might_ change, but only if the mindset changes. It's not just about those tools, it's also about file formats. What I'm talking about is media codecs. Some of them offer DRM capabilites, others don't. Some of them are highly infected with patents and other lawyer-crap. There are reasons why some systems and environments can play various formats out of the box, and others can't. Which formats are efficient for use with the Internet? Which offer scaling and streaming capabilities, important for mobile users who demand lower quality, less data transfer, and tolerance to higher latency? Which codecs can make use of a decoder made in hardware? _This_ problem also has to be solved! Now put this back into relation with my initial idea of making that kind of content decoder part of the web browser. The same way you see a JPG image on a web page and click on a hyperlink... It should be easy, but sadly it isn't. HTML5 tries to solve those problems. Its markup will be better suited for handling media content, plus CSS and JS will be important players on the interaction field. There are already projects that utilize those tools, and _developer tools_ as well as _creator tools_ will be present. Maybe they will even be present for free. YouTube can do fine without Flash already. Online games in HTML5 are appearing. On the other hand, Flash is a no-go on mobile, and mobile is becoming more and more important to consumers. Additionally, more and more people become aware of the danger of proprietary software (in regards of privacy and corporate control, as well as an improving understanding of what DRM does to their freedom). It will take some time to show significant effect. Let's hope people are going to get smarter than I assume. :-) So what are we left with? Free software to replicate what Flash does (at least) that does not have the taint of proprietary software? Is that not an achievable goal? It is a _desired_ goal. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Sun, 2013-10-13 at 04:48 +0200, Polytropon wrote: Let's hope people are going to get smarter than I assume. :-) It's new, not even 100 years old. Within our lifetimes people likely become more stupid, but yes, it will take some generations and people will get smarter. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Do I really have to install 80 packages?
FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Best, --Glenn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Do I really have to install 80 packages?
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 17:54:24 -0400, Glenn Sieb wrote: On 10/11/13 5:38 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: FreeBSD 9.1 I want ONE shared lib; i.e. rsvg.so, which is provided by x11-toolkits/py-gnome-desktop. Unfortunately, it seems that going the normal route I shall have to install 80! ports to get it. Is there an easier way? Actually I think you want x11-toolkits/gtk20..? Would pkg_add work for you? Maybe graphics/librsvg2 is better suited (even though it's version 2 of the library). The problem initially mentions will remain: lots of installation dependencies. Sadly, that seems to be normal today as modern software tends to rely on layers of libraries of abstraction of tools of utilities of stuff of layers of layers of other abstractions. :-) As you see: gnome-desktop and gtk20. That should bring your warning lights up: lots of dependencies ahead! When you try to install a simple desktop environment, you'll be confronted with hundreds of packages to be installed, some of them you've probably never had thought of in regards of what you need to install a desktop, such as two or more different databases, LaTeX, translators, and other surprising stuff. This will probably apply to most complex components and parts of desktop environments or X11 toolkits (as mentioned above). As I mentioned, the librsvg2 port will install lib/librsvg-2.so. It might require you to re-install your target application to link against that library. A library libsvg.so (without version number) doesn't seem to be in the ports tree by that name. My lazy man's method of searching what port might contain the library: Midnight Commander, go to /usr/ports, Meta-?, seach in pkg-plist, search for text librsvg and examine the results with PF3. This method relies on approaches that might be wrong... :-) Note that my (locally installed) ports tree is not up to date anymore so you should consider performing a search on a recent tree to make sure I didn't miss anything. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 03:31:16PM +0200, Matthias Apitz escribió: Meanwhile I did: # cp -Rp ~guru/PKGDIR/mnt # PKG_PATH=/PKGDIR # export PKG_PATH # chroot /mnt pkg_add xorg-7.7 # chroot /mnt pkg_add kde-4.10.5 # chroot /mnt pkg_add vim-7.3.1314 ... # chroot /mnt pkg_info | wc -l 654 which went fine without any errors (only the normal messages about creation of users, etc.); I will test the resulting image and report back. I have transferred the image with dd(1) to a 16 marketing-GByte USB key; it boots fine in my little EeePC 900, takes around 90 secs until login: and KDE4 starts fine too, takes around 240 secs from startx to be able to start an xterm application in KDE4 desktop; i.e. it works, even from such a slow USB key which has a read performance of 1 to 17 MByte per sec, depending of the blocksize 512 or 8m; All this is only a proof of concept to prepare such USB key to boot from and reinstall from it the system on my EeePC netbook whic runs at themoment r235646 with KDE3 (which is now dropped from our ports tree). It seems that KDE4 launches a lot of application or services which I will not need, for example all these akonadi_maildir processes (see attached ps -ax output; for what they are good for? Ok, this question goes more to the kde@ mailing list. Thx matthias PID TT STATTIME COMMAND 0 - DLs 0:00.05 [kernel] 1 - ILs 0:00.02 /sbin/init -- 2 - DL 0:00.00 [sctp_iterator] 3 - DL 0:00.00 [xpt_thrd] 4 - DL 0:00.11 [pagedaemon] 5 - DL 0:00.00 [vmdaemon] 6 - DL 0:00.00 [pagezero] 7 - DL 0:00.00 [bufdaemon] 8 - DL 0:00.09 [syncer] 9 - DL 0:00.00 [vnlru] 10 - DL 0:00.00 [audit] 11 - RL 2:53.86 [idle] 12 - WL 0:02.35 [intr] 13 - DL 0:00.84 [geom] 14 - DL 0:00.05 [rand_harvestq] 15 - DL 0:00.90 [usb] 16 - DL 0:00.03 [acpi_thermal] 17 - DL 0:00.00 [softdepflush] 1391 - Ss 0:00.03 /sbin/devd 1536 - Ss 0:00.04 /usr/sbin/syslogd -s 1560 - DL 0:00.04 [md0] 1641 - Is 0:00.60 /usr/sbin/moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto 1686 - Is 0:00.00 /usr/sbin/sshd 1689 - Ss 0:00.02 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail) 1692 - Is 0:00.00 sendmail: Queue runner@00:30:00 for /var/spool/clientmque 1696 - Ss 0:00.05 /usr/sbin/cron -s 1796 - Is 0:19.46 /usr/local/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-a 1802 - Is 0:00.91 kdeinit4: kdeinit4 Running... (kdeinit4) 1803 - I0:00.60 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: klauncher --fd=8 (kdeinit4) 1805 - I0:05.90 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kded4 (kdeinit4) 1807 - I0:00.07 /usr/local/libexec/gam_server 1811 - I0:02.99 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kglobalaccel (kdeinit4) 1817 - I0:06.23 /usr/local/kde4/bin/knotify4 1819 - I0:02.45 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: ksmserver (kdeinit4) 1820 - I0:11.72 kwin -session 10d6114d4e60001381347192001812_1381 1824 - I0:14.72 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: plasma-desktop (kdeinit4) 1827 - I0:20.26 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_control 1828 - I0:02.79 akonadiserver 1830 - I0:03.56 /usr/local/libexec/mysqld --defaults-file=/home/guru/.loc 1838 - I0:02.07 /usr/local/kde4/bin/kuiserver 1840 - I0:00.08 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: nepomukserver (kdeinit4) 1843 - I0:04.73 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: krunner (kdeinit4) 1845 - I0:02.35 kdeinit4: kdeinit4: kmix -session 10d6114d4e6000138134736 1846 - IN 0:00.93 /usr/local/kde4/bin/nepomukservicestub nepomukstorage 1849 - I0:00.60 /usr/local/kde4/bin/nepomukcontroller -session 10d6114d4e 1852 - I0:01.04 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1853 - I0:01.07 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1854 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1855 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_akonot 1856 - I0:03.81 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_archivemail_agent --identifie 1857 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_ical_r 1858 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1859 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1860 - I0:01.12 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1861 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1862 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1863 - I0:01.10 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1864 - I0:01.06 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1865 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1866 - I0:01.02 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1867 - I0:01.03 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1868 - I0:01.01 /usr/local/kde4/bin/akonadi_agent_launcher akonadi_maildi 1869 - I0:01.02
install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
Hello, I have prepared a boot-able USB-key (to be exactly a disk image of it) the usual way: # dd if=/dev/zero of=da0 bs=8m count=1868 # mdconfig -a -t vnode -f da0 md0 # fdisk -I md0 # fdisk -B md0 # bsdlabel -w md0s1 auto # bsdlabel -B md0s1 # bsdlabel -e md0s1 # edit the disk label and change partition a from unused to 4.2BSD # newfs /dev/md0s1a # mount /dev/md0s1a /mnt # cd /usr/src now we can install world an kernel: # make installworld DESTDIR=/mnt # make installkernel DESTDIR=/mnt KERNCONF=GENERIC INSTALL_NODEBUG=t # make distrib-dirs DESTDIR=/mnt # make distribution DESTDIR=/mnt ... I have compiled ~800 ports (Xorg and KDE4) and after this I've created packages of all the installed ports with pkg_create(1); the resulting .tgz files are all as well copied to the image into /mnt/PKGDIR. So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). pkg_add and all of the old pkgtools do not exist in 10-CURRENT anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 07:58:06AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). pkg_add and all of the old pkgtools do not exist in 10-CURRENT anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with $ cat /etc/src.conf WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 8:07, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 07:58:06AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 6:16, Matthias Apitz wrote: So far so good. Now I want install the packages as well into the image in /mnt. What would be the best method for this? Run pkg_add with the flag --chroot chrootdir, or use chroot(8) directly? Or any other idea? Thanks in advance All this is with 10-CURRENT (base and ports). pkg_add and all of the old pkgtools do not exist in 10-CURRENT anymore. Are you running a build of 10-CURRENT before they were removed? No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with $ cat /etc/src.conf WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes Ok, I won't question your needs for pkg_* as you seem to be aware of what you're doing :-) When you use pkg_* or pkg with their built-in chroot options it seems that it executes those tools within those chroots instead of setting the chroot as a destination for the installation. So if you wanted to use --chroot I think you have to make sure the packages are available inside the chroot. Perhaps there's some sort of DESTDIR option for the package installation? I've been searching but have had no luck yet. I'll ask around. It might be more reliable to do something like nullfs mount the packages into the chroot and do the installation completely within the chroot. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: install packages with pkg_add(1) into another file system
El día Tuesday, October 08, 2013 a las 08:12:31AM -0500, Mark Felder escribió: No. The r255948 was built on a clean, empty environment but with $ cat /etc/src.conf WITH_PKGTOOLS=yes Ok, I won't question your needs for pkg_* as you seem to be aware of what you're doing :-) When you use pkg_* or pkg with their built-in chroot options it seems that it executes those tools within those chroots instead of setting the chroot as a destination for the installation. So if you wanted to use --chroot I think you have to make sure the packages are available inside the chroot. Perhaps there's some sort of DESTDIR option for the package installation? I've been searching but have had no luck yet. I'll ask around. It might be more reliable to do something like nullfs mount the packages into the chroot and do the installation completely within the chroot. Meanwhile I did: # cp -Rp ~guru/PKGDIR/mnt # PKG_PATH=/PKGDIR # export PKG_PATH # chroot /mnt pkg_add xorg-7.7 # chroot /mnt pkg_add kde-4.10.5 # chroot /mnt pkg_add vim-7.3.1314 ... # chroot /mnt pkg_info | wc -l 654 which went fine without any errors (only the normal messages about creation of users, etc.); I will test the resulting image and report back. matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Perl packages fails to build
Hi all, Using freebsd 9.2 amd64 and poudriere, perl fails to build: /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/. install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/BSDPAN-2007/BSDPAN.pm /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/BSDPAN.pm /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/BSDPAN install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/BSDPAN-2007/BSDPAN/Override.pm /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/BSDPAN/Override.pm /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/. install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/BSDPAN-2007/Config.pm /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/Config.pm /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/BSDPAN-2007/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MM_Unix.pm /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/BSDPAN-2007/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm /bin/mkdir -p /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/ExtUtils install -o root -g wheel -m 444 /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/BSDPAN-2007/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm /wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/BSDPAN/ExtUtils/Packlist.pm Compressing man pages === Installing for perl-5.14.4_1 === Checking if lang/perl5.14 already installed === Registering installation for perl-5.14.4_1 pkg-static: lstat(/wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/man/man3/): No such file or directory pkg-static: lstat(/wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.14/man/): No such file or directory pkg-static: lstat(/wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.14/mach/sys/): No such file or directory pkg-static: lstat(/wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.14/mach/machine/): No such file or directory pkg-static: lstat(/wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.14/mach/auto/): No such file or directory pkg-static: lstat(/wrkdirs/usr/ports/lang/perl5.14/work/stage/usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.14/auto/): No such file or directory *** [fake-pkg] Error code 74 Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.14. === Cleaning for perl-5.14.4_1 build of /usr/ports/lang/perl5.14 ended at Thu Oct 3 13:07:33 UTC 2013 build time: 00:05:13 Any idea?? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
pkg install on freshly installed 9.1 doesn't find any packages
I installed 9.1 from iso image. Then 'pkg' command brought pkg-1.0.11 package. Now commands like 'pkg install gnome2' always say: pkg: Package 'gnome2' was not found in the repositories. Am I missing something? This is vanilla 9.1 from DVD image. Nothing else. Yuri ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: pkg install on freshly installed 9.1 doesn't find any packages
On 17/08/2013 05:41, Yuri wrote:
I installed 9.1 from iso image.
Then 'pkg' command brought pkg-1.0.11 package.
Now commands like 'pkg install gnome2' always say:
pkg: Package 'gnome2' was not found in the repositories.
Am I missing something? This is vanilla 9.1 from DVD image. Nothing else.
You have an old version of pkg there, and it looks like the pkg.conf
that came with that version doesn't point at a repository with any
useful contents.
Try:
pkg upgrade
which /should/ get you pkg-1.1.4_1
Then check ${LOCALBASE}/etc/pkg.conf and make sure packagesite is set to:
http://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest
or there are some other publicly availble repos: Exonetric has one, as
does PC-BSD.
Cheers,
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Re: HOWTO monitor changes in installed packages within jails?
On 20.07.2013, at 18:34, Michael Grimm trash...@odo.in-berlin.de wrote:
On 20.07.2013, at 14:53, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk
wrote:
On 20/07/2013 12:09, Michael Grimm wrote:
I did migrate to pkgng some month ago, and ever since I am curious
how to monitor changes in installed packages within jails. I am
looking for a functionality/port that works like 490.status-
pkg-changes for my host.
Question: is there any functionality within the periodic system or a
port that I might have missed to find?
You can't just run 490.status-pkg-changes directly in your jail?
Yes, I can ;-)
But! I do have a lot of service jails running at my host, thus I would like
to omit modifying every jail's /etc/periodic.conf adding:
| daily_status_pkg_changes_enable=YES# Show package changes
| pkg_info=pkg info # Use this program
Try this patch:
Thanks for that approach, namely adding pkg -j jailname info for every jail
running. Due to my amount of jails I might need to add some looping over jls
-N output instead of adding a lot of $daily_status_pkg_changes_flags.
I was hoping that I could omit programming that functionality myself, but I
might need to do so.
I ended up in adding:
--- snip
--- /usr/src/etc/periodic/daily/490.status-pkg-changes 2013-04-03
17:59:35.894705550 +0200
+++ /etc/periodic/daily/490.status-pkg-changes 2013-07-23 20:19:27.833641916
+0200
@@ -32,6 +32,24 @@
diff -U 0 $bak/pkg_info.bak2 $bak/pkg_info.bak \
| grep '^[-+][^-+]' | sort -k 1.2
fi
+
+# added jail(s) support
+#
+ for jname in `jls -N | grep -v JID | awk '{print $1}'`; do
+ if [ -f $bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak ]; then
+ mv -f $bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak
$bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak2
+ fi
+ jexec ${jname} ${pkg_info:-/usr/sbin/pkg_info}
$bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak
+
+ cmp -sz $bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak
$bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak2
+ if [ $? -eq 1 ]; then
+ echo
+ echo Changes in installed packages (jail
${jname}):
+ diff -U 0 $bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak2
$bak/pkg_info_${jname}.bak \
+ | grep '^[-+][^-+]' | sort -k 1.2
+ fi
+ done
+
fi
;;
--- snip
Not perfect, really, but working at my side.
Michael
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Hi -- I did migrate to pkgng some month ago, and ever since I am curious how to monitor changes in installed packages within jails. I am looking for a functionality/port that works like 490.status-pkg-changes for my host. Question: is there any functionality within the periodic system or a port that I might have missed to find? Thanks in advance and with kind regards, Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: HOWTO monitor changes in installed packages within jails?
On 20/07/2013 12:09, Michael Grimm wrote:
I did migrate to pkgng some month ago, and ever since I am curious
how to monitor changes in installed packages within jails. I am
looking for a functionality/port that works like 490.status-
pkg-changes for my host.
Question: is there any functionality within the periodic system or a
port that I might have missed to find?
You can't just run 490.status-pkg-changes directly in your jail?
Try this patch:
lucid-nonsense:/tmp:% diff -u 490.status-pkg-changes{.orig,}
--- 490.status-pkg-changes.orig 2013-07-20 13:43:44.306303775 +0100
+++ 490.status-pkg-changes 2013-07-20 13:44:42.055327506 +0100
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@
case $daily_status_pkg_changes_enable in
[Yy][Ee][Ss])
- pkgcmd=/usr/local/sbin/pkg
+ pkgcmd=/usr/local/sbin/pkg $daily_status_pkg_changes_flags
echo
echo 'Changes in installed packages:'
Then add something like the following to /etc/periodic.conf:
daily_status_pkg_changes_flags='-j jailname'
Of course, this only lets you monitor changes in one jail at a time.
You can cover more by copying the script and changing its name eg.
sed -e 's/daily_status_pkg_changes/daily_status_pkg_changes2/g' \
490.status-pkg-changes 490.status-pkg-changes2
Then add appropriate daily_status_pkg_changes2_flags='-j otherjail'
settings to periodic.conf
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Re: HOWTO monitor changes in installed packages within jails?
On 20.07.2013, at 14:53, Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk wrote: On 20/07/2013 12:09, Michael Grimm wrote: I did migrate to pkgng some month ago, and ever since I am curious how to monitor changes in installed packages within jails. I am looking for a functionality/port that works like 490.status- pkg-changes for my host. Question: is there any functionality within the periodic system or a port that I might have missed to find? You can't just run 490.status-pkg-changes directly in your jail? Yes, I can ;-) But! I do have a lot of service jails running at my host, thus I would like to omit modifying every jail's /etc/periodic.conf adding: | daily_status_pkg_changes_enable=YES# Show package changes | pkg_info=pkg info # Use this program Try this patch: Thanks for that approach, namely adding pkg -j jailname info for every jail running. Due to my amount of jails I might need to add some looping over jls -N output instead of adding a lot of $daily_status_pkg_changes_flags. I was hoping that I could omit programming that functionality myself, but I might need to do so. Thanks for your input and with kind regards, Michael ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Mirroring Binary Packages
Hi all, I want to mirror binary packages for 8.x amd64 internally on an isolated network. It appears the appropriate source would be on an official mirror at pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64/packages-8-stable/ for the most recent updates. However, it does not appear to have been updated since October 2012 as seen by the dates of files. Is this the appropriate source to mirror for the most recently built binary packages for 8.x amd64? -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
upgrade packages
Hi all! I come from linux os and I read a lot documentations about freebsd. I've a doubt: when I've some packages installed and I need upgrade it, I need to recompile those packages or there's another (fast) way to do this? thanks! Pol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: upgrade packages
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:05:25 +0200, Pol Hallen wrote: Hi all! I come from linux os and I read a lot documentations about freebsd. I've a doubt: when I've some packages installed and I need upgrade it, I need to recompile those packages or there's another (fast) way to do this? With the new pkgng (the replacement for the traditional pkg infrastructure that handles precompiled binary packages) this won't be a problem, as long as the default compile options and settings are fine for you. If not, today's PCs have multiple plenticore CPUs with tons of RAM and endless hard disks, so running portmaster -a won't be a big deal. :-) On FreeBSD, it's _your_ choice. It's already in The FreeBSD Handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/pkgng-intro.html Soon, it will be the system's default. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
When will binary packages be back?
For many years, I've used FreeBSD binary packages to avoid long waits and/or having to set up a special build machine when creating small systems. But even though the development server security breach is now long past, there are no published binary packages for FreeBSD 9.1. When will they be back? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Brett Glass br...@lariat.net wrote: For many years, I've used FreeBSD binary packages to avoid long waits and/or having to set up a special build machine when creating small systems. But even though the development server security breach is now long past, there are no published binary packages for FreeBSD 9.1. When will they be back? can't answer for the freebsd project - but the folks at pc-bsd have made a 9.1 pkgng repository available: http://blog.pcbsd.org/2013/04/pc-bsd-announces-package-repository-for-pc-bsd-and-freebsd-9-1-release/ there is also an east coast mirror hosted by NycBUG/NYI: http://lists.nycbug.org/pipermail/talk/2013-March/014741.html -pete ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
On 04/10/2013 20:39, Brett Glass wrote: For many years, I've used FreeBSD binary packages to avoid long waits and/or having to set up a special build machine when creating small systems. But even though the development server security breach is now long past, there are no published binary packages for FreeBSD 9.1. When will they be back? --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org There's a recent update on the compromise announcement page that promises the packages coming soon: http://www.freebsd.org/news/2012-compromise.html -Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
Unfortunately, I've never experimented with pkgng, so will have to come up to speed on this. Might be a temporary workaround. In the meantime, I'm trying to install Apache 2.2 on a small server. So far, just to build the port, the machine has built Perl, Python, m4, Berkeley DB, and an incredible assortment of other stuff that I do not want or need on that machine! And because the make distclean command in the FreeBSD ports system does not remove code for dependencies, I'll have tons of source -- including GPLed code, which I do not want to touch -- on the machine unless I do a painstaking manual search and removal. Aaargh! --Brett Glass At 12:03 PM 4/10/2013, pete wright wrote: can't answer for the freebsd project - but the folks at pc-bsd have made a 9.1 pkgng repository available: http://blog.pcbsd.org/2013/04/pc-bsd-announces-package-repository-for-pc-bsd-and-freebsd-9-1-release/ there is also an east coast mirror hosted by NycBUG/NYI: http://lists.nycbug.org/pipermail/talk/2013-March/014741.html -pete ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Brett Glass br...@lariat.net wrote: Unfortunately, I've never experimented with pkgng, so will have to come up to speed on this. Might be a temporary workaround. it is def. where the project is moving towards for binary pkg distribution, so it won't be a wasted effort :) i've been quite happy with it since it first was released, and there is still plenty of active development happening on it as well. -pete -- pete wright www.nycbug.org @nomadlogicLA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 4/10/13 2:19 PM, Brett Glass wrote: Unfortunately, I've never experimented with pkgng, so will have to come up to speed on this. Might be a temporary workaround. In the meantime, I'm trying to install Apache 2.2 on a small server. So far, just to build the port, the machine has built Perl, Python, m4, Berkeley DB, and an incredible assortment of other stuff that I do not want or need on that machine! And because the make distclean command in the FreeBSD ports system does not remove code for dependencies, I'll have tons of source -- including GPLed code, which I do not want to touch -- on the machine unless I do a painstaking manual search and removal. Aaargh! --Brett Glass Hi Brett, Here's an easy way to delete all of the distfiles for a port and its dependencies: cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 # Or whatever make distclean make all-depends-list | xargs -n1 -I % sh -c cd % make distclean Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/cpucycle/ - Follow you, follow me -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.13 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlFlsXoACgkQ0sRouByUApAG1ACaAgxhsxFkWCiD0TTiCcfjBqEk SVsAoIVnv1XlXlBxwPSIyaRq4gP/kz+d =uB9B -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
On 4/10/2013 at 11:39 AM Brett Glass wrote: |For many years, I've used FreeBSD binary packages to avoid long |waits and/or having to set up a special build machine when creating |small systems. But even though the development server security |breach is now long past, there are no published binary packages for |FreeBSD 9.1. When will they be back? = Additionally, for me, building from ports for me has tended to pull in many, many X-windows support files when they are not needed. Specifically, I run a non-windowing system using command line tools. When I tried to compile Samba from ports, I finally killed the 'make' stage after three hours of compiling X-windows stuff. Nowhere had I ever spcified that the system was running X or any other windowing system. Yet, there it was, three hours of wasted time. I never had such issues when installing from packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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On 04/10/2013 22:19, Mike. wrote: On 4/10/2013 at 11:39 AM Brett Glass wrote: |For many years, I've used FreeBSD binary packages to avoid long |waits and/or having to set up a special build machine when creating |small systems. But even though the development server security |breach is now long past, there are no published binary packages for |FreeBSD 9.1. When will they be back? = Additionally, for me, building from ports for me has tended to pull in many, many X-windows support files when they are not needed. Specifically, I run a non-windowing system using command line tools. When I tried to compile Samba from ports, I finally killed the 'make' stage after three hours of compiling X-windows stuff. Nowhere had I ever spcified that the system was running X or any other windowing system. Yet, there it was, three hours of wasted time. I never had such issues when installing from packages. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org @Mike Then you must have selected some non-default options that have pulled in those as dependencies. You can remove them by: make rmconfig or, including all dependent ports: make rmconfig-recursive -Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
Mike. wrote: [snip] Additionally, for me, building from ports for me has tended to pull in many, many X-windows support files when they are not needed. Specifically, I run a non-windowing system using command line tools. When I tried to compile Samba from ports, I finally killed the 'make' stage after three hours of compiling X-windows stuff. Nowhere had I ever spcified that the system was running X or any other windowing system. Yet, there it was, three hours of wasted time. In addition to what Jeff has said, for servers where I do not want any X related stuff I place WITHOUT_X11= yes in /etc/make.conf. In addition to make config option(s), there may also be some default stuff here and there in the Mk files. The make.conf line will short circuit these. IIRC there may be some exceptions where you need some (a handful or less) of some X related packages. Seem to think of things like gd, imagemagick, freetype, etc., for PHP kind of things. In these cases, the make.conf line will blanket cover most of what you don't want and you can choose make config options that will pull in only what you absolutely need without starting down the line to everything X-related. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
On 4/10/2013 at 3:39 PM Michael Powell wrote: |Mike. wrote: | |[snip] | | | Additionally, for me, building from ports for me has tended to pull in | many, many X-windows support files when they are not needed. | | Specifically, I run a non-windowing system using command line tools. | When I tried to compile Samba from ports, I finally killed the 'make' | stage after three hours of compiling X-windows stuff. | | Nowhere had I ever spcified that the system was running X or any other | windowing system. Yet, there it was, three hours of wasted time. | | |In addition to what Jeff has said, for servers where I do not want any X |related stuff I place WITHOUT_X11= yes in /etc/make.conf. In addition to |make |config option(s), there may also be some default stuff here and there in |the |Mk files. The make.conf line will short circuit these. | |IIRC there may be some exceptions where you need some (a handful or less) |of |some X related packages. Seem to think of things like gd, imagemagick, |freetype, etc., for PHP kind of things. In these cases, the make.conf line |will blanket cover most of what you don't want and you can choose make |config options that will pull in only what you absolutely need without |starting down the line to everything X-related. = Thanks Jeff and Mike for the assist. I'll try both those suggestions. Oddly, I was not presented with the usual port config screen when I ran the make phase in the ports. This is on a new install on a newly formatted disk. I thought it odd that the was no config screen, but I chalked it up to something new in the 9.x versions (it was the first time I installed 9.x). It also was the first time I ever used portsnap to obtain and install the ports tree. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
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Just made that into a batch file for my library. Should be a target in the standard ports Makefile, IMHO. Maybe call it rdistclean. Perhaps this could be submitted as a PR. --Brett Glass At 12:37 PM 4/10/2013, Greg Larkin wrote: Here's an easy way to delete all of the distfiles for a port and its dependencies: cd /usr/ports/www/apache22 # Or whatever make distclean make all-depends-list | xargs -n1 -I % sh -c cd % make distclean ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: When will binary packages be back?
On Wed, 10 Apr 2013 14:14:21 -0600, Brett Glass wrote: Just made that into a batch file for my library. Should be a target in the standard ports Makefile, IMHO. Maybe call it rdistclean. Perhaps this could be submitted as a PR. There are various options in portsclean (provided by ports-mgmt/ portupgrade), but for distfiles I simply do: sudo rm -rvf /usr/ports/distfiles/* after my updates have finished. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: State of Packages
On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400, doug wrote: My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time on my hands during the download :) Prebuilt packages are on the way apparently, but I have made my own repository anyway for the 600-odd packages which I and my users need - thus I compile from ports once only (all are 9.1-RELEASE x86_64). It works well, and is not difficult. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: State of Packages
On 4/5/2013 7:51 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Thu, 04 Apr 2013 14:57:57 -0400, doug wrote: My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time on my hands during the download :) Prebuilt packages are on the way apparently, but I have made my own repository anyway for the 600-odd packages which I and my users need - thus I compile from ports once only (all are 9.1-RELEASE x86_64). It works well, and is not difficult. I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the first cd-r I used. The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it hasn't been done yet. It's been almost five months. I used the repository, but I'm working on my own now that I have plenty of ram to do it. In the time since then, every FreeBSD machine could have updated from source the base and all packages. The ports tree is still updated, the source tree is still updated, so both should be presumed to be safe. Recently the FreeBSD website had some downtime from using -CURRENT, and apache hasn't been taken offline for five months, and aren't those two things all you really need to distribute ports? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: State of Packages
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:25:42 -0500 Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the first cd-r I used. The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it hasn't been done yet. It's been almost five months. It's easy to build a repository, it's hard to build a secure public repository. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: State of Packages
On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 22:02:38 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Sat, 06 Apr 2013 15:25:42 -0500 Joshua Isom jri...@gmail.com wrote: I've been using FreeBSD since the summer of 2005, I still have the first cd-r I used. The fact that it's so easy makes me wonder why it hasn't been done yet. It's been almost five months. It's easy to build a repository, it's hard to build a secure public repository. Agreed; that's why I haven't attempted to do so. Also, I only build packages for the 600 or so packages in which I am interested, and only for the FreeBSD version in use, and only for the specific CPU architecture. Maybe Joshua is overlooking something. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: State of Packages
On 4/6/2013 7:56 PM, Walter Hurry wrote: Agreed; that's why I haven't attempted to do so. Also, I only build packages for the 600 or so packages in which I am interested, and only for the FreeBSD version in use, and only for the specific CPU architecture. Maybe Joshua is overlooking something. I've got poudriere up and running to simplify things for me now, but with the collective knowledge and willpower of the FreeBSD project, I'm surprised it's taken so long. I understand securing a server isn't trivial, but after five months, there's nothing public about how long it will take or why it's taken so long. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
State of Packages
Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored. Index of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/ NameSizeLast Modified File:MANIFEST 1 KB12/04/12 10:10:00 File:base.txz 58452 KB12/04/12 10:09:00 File:doc.txz1410 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:games.txz 1092 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:kernel.txz 56686 KB12/04/12 10:10:00 File:lib32.txz 9516 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:ports.txz 85867 KB12/04/12 10:10:00 File:src.txz94190 KB12/04/12 10:10:00 This pretty much invalidates 5.4 of the handbook. My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time on my hands during the download :) _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: State of Packages
On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote: Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored. Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again. They will come back. Index of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/amd64/9.1-RELEASE/ Name Size Last Modified File:MANIFEST 1 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:base.txz 58452 KB 12/04/12 10:09:00 File:doc.txz 1410 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:games.txz 1092 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:kernel.txz 56686 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:lib32.txz 9516 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:ports.txz 85867 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 File:src.txz 94190 KB 12/04/12 10:10:00 This pretty much invalidates 5.4 of the handbook. My questions: Does/will pkgng work? Are 9.1 packages on the ISO images? I am in the progess of answering that one for myself but had some time on my hands during the download :) _ Douglas Denault http://www.safeport.com d...@safeport.com Voice: 301-217-9220 Fax: 301-217-9277 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Regards, Bryan Drewery bdrewery@freenode/EFNet signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: State of Packages
On 4 Apr 2013, at 21:21, Bryan Drewery bdrew...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote:
Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored.
Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again.
They will come back.
For those who might be interested in an interim solution, we've set up
an unofficial but public pkgng format repository at
http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng
To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in
/usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so,
PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest
These have FreeBSD 8, 9 and 10, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages
for the whole ports tree, build failures notwithstanding.
You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these
builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official
ones are available.
- Mark
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Re: State of Packages
On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Mark Blackman wrote:
On 4 Apr 2013, at 21:21, Bryan Drewery bdrew...@freebsd.org wrote:
On 4/4/2013 1:57 PM, d...@safeport.com wrote:
Its seems certain that pkg_add is not [going to] be[ing] restored.
Progress is being made on providing pkg_add and pkgng packages again.
They will come back.
For those who might be interested in an interim solution, we've set up
an unofficial but public pkgng format repository at
http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng
To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in
/usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so,
PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest
These have FreeBSD 8, 9 and 10, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages
for the whole ports tree, build failures notwithstanding.
You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these
builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official
ones are available.
Thank you
_
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http://www.safeport.com
d...@safeport.com
Voice: 301-217-9220
Fax: 301-217-9277
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fresh binary packages for 9.1 / 9 stable
Hey hey :-) Are there any news on fresh binary packages for 9.1-RELEASE / 9-STABLE? :-) Best regards, Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: no 9.1-release packages?
On 7 Mar 2013, at 15:52, Ruben de Groot mai...@bzerk.org wrote:
Hi,
I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some packages.
This however does not work as there is no directory packages-9.1-release on
the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this?
If you're prepared to move to pkgng for binary packages,
https://wiki.freebsd.org/pkgng
There's an unofficial pkgng format repository of binary packages available
After installing pkgng (from ports), then edit your /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf to
use
this line.
PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest
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no 9.1-release packages?
Hi, I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some packages. This however does not work as there is no directory packages-9.1-release on the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this? ftp pwd Remote directory: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64 ftp ls 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||40379|). 150 Here comes the directory listing. lrwxrwxrwx1 633 49315 Apr 19 2007 packages - packages-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Jul 17 2012 packages-10-current drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 07 08:18 packages-7-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 11 16:19 packages-8-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Feb 10 2011 packages-8.2-release drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Mar 28 2012 packages-8.3-release lrwxr-xr-x1 967 10017 Dec 09 2011 packages-9-current - packages-9-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 16 21:26 packages-9-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Dec 29 2011 packages-9.0-release lrwxr-xr-x1 967 10019 Dec 03 2011 packages-current - packages-10-current lrwxr-xr-x1 967 10017 Nov 07 2011 packages-stable - packages-9-stable ftp -- Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: no 9.1-release packages?
Ruben de Groot schreef: Hi, I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some packages. This however does not work as there is no directory packages-9.1-release on the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this? ftp pwd Remote directory: /pub/FreeBSD/ports/amd64 ftp ls 229 Entering Extended Passive Mode (|||40379|). 150 Here comes the directory listing. lrwxrwxrwx1 633 49315 Apr 19 2007 packages - packages-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Jul 17 2012 packages-10-current drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 07 08:18 packages-7-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 11 16:19 packages-8-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Feb 10 2011 packages-8.2-release drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Mar 28 2012 packages-8.3-release lrwxr-xr-x1 967 10017 Dec 09 2011 packages-9-current - packages-9-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Oct 16 21:26 packages-9-stable drwxrwxr-x 95 967 100 2048 Dec 29 2011 packages-9.0-release lrwxr-xr-x1 967 10019 Dec 03 2011 packages-current - packages-10-current lrwxr-xr-x1 967 10017 Nov 07 2011 packages-stable - packages-9-stable ftp -- Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org There was a security issue and therefor there are no packages for 9.1 Due to the security incident reported here: http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/2012-compromise.html only the small third-party package set on the DVD image is available at this time for users who require pre-built packages (just GNOME and KDE windowing systems). The FreeBSD Project's package building infrastructure is undergoing a complete review and redesign. At this time we can not commit to a date the full release package set will become available. A separate announcement will be made when that becomes available. If you wish to install 9.1-RELEASE now you can build your own packages using portsnap(8) to obtain an up to date ports tree and then build the packages. If you require pre-built packages you should wait for the announcement of the full release package set becoming available. FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE can also be purchased on CD-ROM or DVD from several vendors. One of the vendors that will be offering FreeBSD 9.1-based products is: regards Johan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: no 9.1-release packages?
On 7 mrt 2013, at 16:58, Johan Hendriks wrote: Ruben de Groot schreef: Hi, I just rented a 9.1-release VPS and was trying to install some packages. This however does not work as there is no directory packages-9.1-release on the ftp server (ftp.freebsd.org). Why is this? There was a security issue and therefor there are no packages for 9.1 Due to the security incident reported here: http://www.FreeBSD.org/news/2012-compromise.html only the small third-party package set on the DVD image is available at this time for users who require pre-built packages (just GNOME and KDE windowing systems). The FreeBSD Project's package building infrastructure is undergoing a complete review and redesign. At this time we can not commit to a date the full release package set will become available. A separate announcement will be made when that becomes available. If you wish to install 9.1-RELEASE now you can build your own packages using portsnap(8) to obtain an up to date ports tree and then build the packages. If you require pre-built packages you should wait for the announcement of the full release package set becoming available. FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE can also be purchased on CD-ROM or DVD from several vendors. One of the vendors that will be offering FreeBSD 9.1-based products is: Thanks for the info Johan. I was aware of the compromise, just not of it still affecting the package building for 9.1 release. No problem, there's no absolute requirement for pre-build packages here, so I installed some tools from packages-9-stable by setting PACKAGESITE and building the rest now from ports. cheers, Ruben ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
9.1 packages
Hi Guys, Do you have any idea when are going to be the packages available for FreeBSD 9.1? thx! Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports Packages [Stable] in sync
Jeff Tipton jef...@mail.com writes: Thank you, Damien, for the reply. AFAIK, STABLE gets updated every 2 weeks but not every day, and it seems to be that because of the intrusion, it has not been updated for long. The versions of the ports that come with the 9.1-RELEASE are even slightly newer than those of 9-STABLE packages. I think if I don't get the revision number from which the 9-STABLE was updated last time I'll use the ports tree that comes with 9.1-RELEASE. I hope it won't cause much version incompatibilities. Um, not really. Or at least, not specific enough to be sure whether it is correct or not. The ports tree is not branched, and is intended to work with all supported branches and releases. In other words, regardless of whether you're running 9.1-RELEASE, 9-STABLE (in svn/cvs terms, RELENG_9), or 10.x (HEAD), you can (and, unless you have specific reasons otherwise, usually corporate security dictates) should use a ports tree checked out from HEAD. This is unrelated to whether packages are available for the ports on a particular branch or tag. Package availability is unusually limited at the moment, but that's because the build cluster has very limited capacity right now for a variety of reasons. That situation will improve over time, but until computers are infinitely fast, the package collection will lag somewhat behind the ports tree. Packages need to be built for a particular base system (or close enough: generally all base-system versions in the same major-number release can run the packages for any other within that same series, most notably the -STABLE version). Additionally, -STABLE base system is updated by definition every time a developer checks into the relevant branch (currently RELENG_9). For ports, as I said earlier, there is no equivalent; updates go to HEAD, period. When packages get built for a particular base system is a matter of policy on the build cluster. I don't use downloaded packages for ports updates, but I would expect that to evolve as the new build cluster does. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports Packages [Stable] in sync
On Feb 17, 2013, at 3:44 PM, Jeff Tipton jef...@mail.com wrote: On 02/17/2013 13:13, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 16 Feb 2013, at 16:56, Jeff Tipton jef...@mail.com wrote: Hi, I upgraded 9.0 - 9.1 on my netbook and only then found out that there are no packages for 9.1-RELEASE. On my desktops, I keep ports and packages at the RELEASE versions, so I only have to compile when I need non-default options or when there are no packages. Would it be possible to get the ports snapshot that was used to compile the 9-STABLE packages? I think I could use subversion but then I need to know the revision number of that snapshot. What do you suggest? Thanks, Jeff Hi Jeff, I think you might be confused here. It is my understanding that there are ports for: - HEAD - x.y-RELEASE I don't think you're going to be able to get a snapshot from 9-STABLE, because -STABLE is a continuing work. What version do you consider to be 9-STABLE ? Every time there's a new commit you get a new 9-STABLE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Thank you, Damien, for the reply. AFAIK, STABLE gets updated every 2 weeks but not every day, and it seems to be that because of the intrusion, it has not been updated for long. The versions of the ports that come with the 9.1-RELEASE are even slightly newer than those of 9-STABLE packages. I think if I don't get the revision number from which the 9-STABLE was updated last time I'll use the ports tree that comes with 9.1-RELEASE. I hope it won't cause much version incompatibilities. I'm not sure where you're getting your 9-STABLE ports from, Jeff. In the SVN repository I only see release tags and HEAD: http://svn.freebsd.org/ports/ I also second Gilbert's advice about using HEAD for your ports tree, we do this here in production with over 50 boxes and have had no problems so far. If you still want to use the branch from 9.1-RELEASE, it's here: svn://svn.freebsd.org/ports/tags/RELEASE_9_1_0/ Note that, unless I'm wrong, you will not be getting *ANY* update to the ports tree then, it's frozen. This means no security updates and all, AFAICT. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports Packages [Stable] in sync
On 16 Feb 2013, at 16:56, Jeff Tipton jef...@mail.com wrote: Hi, I upgraded 9.0 - 9.1 on my netbook and only then found out that there are no packages for 9.1-RELEASE. On my desktops, I keep ports and packages at the RELEASE versions, so I only have to compile when I need non-default options or when there are no packages. Would it be possible to get the ports snapshot that was used to compile the 9-STABLE packages? I think I could use subversion but then I need to know the revision number of that snapshot. What do you suggest? Thanks, Jeff Hi Jeff, I think you might be confused here. It is my understanding that there are ports for: - HEAD - x.y-RELEASE I don't think you're going to be able to get a snapshot from 9-STABLE, because -STABLE is a continuing work. What version do you consider to be 9-STABLE ? Every time there's a new commit you get a new 9-STABLE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Ports Packages [Stable] in sync
On 02/17/2013 13:13, Damien Fleuriot wrote: On 16 Feb 2013, at 16:56, Jeff Tipton jef...@mail.com wrote: Hi, I upgraded 9.0 - 9.1 on my netbook and only then found out that there are no packages for 9.1-RELEASE. On my desktops, I keep ports and packages at the RELEASE versions, so I only have to compile when I need non-default options or when there are no packages. Would it be possible to get the ports snapshot that was used to compile the 9-STABLE packages? I think I could use subversion but then I need to know the revision number of that snapshot. What do you suggest? Thanks, Jeff Hi Jeff, I think you might be confused here. It is my understanding that there are ports for: - HEAD - x.y-RELEASE I don't think you're going to be able to get a snapshot from 9-STABLE, because -STABLE is a continuing work. What version do you consider to be 9-STABLE ? Every time there's a new commit you get a new 9-STABLE. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Thank you, Damien, for the reply. AFAIK, STABLE gets updated every 2 weeks but not every day, and it seems to be that because of the intrusion, it has not been updated for long. The versions of the ports that come with the 9.1-RELEASE are even slightly newer than those of 9-STABLE packages. I think if I don't get the revision number from which the 9-STABLE was updated last time I'll use the ports tree that comes with 9.1-RELEASE. I hope it won't cause much version incompatibilities. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Ports Packages [Stable] in sync
Hi, I upgraded 9.0 - 9.1 on my netbook and only then found out that there are no packages for 9.1-RELEASE. On my desktops, I keep ports and packages at the RELEASE versions, so I only have to compile when I need non-default options or when there are no packages. Would it be possible to get the ports snapshot that was used to compile the 9-STABLE packages? I think I could use subversion but then I need to know the revision number of that snapshot. What do you suggest? Thanks, Jeff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: packages listing
On 2/10/2013 8:57 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:52:37 -0800 (PST), Dánielisz László wrote:
Hi Everybody,
Do you have any idea how can I list those installed packages
that are not required by any other?
You can use sysutils/pkg_cutleaves to determine those.
I use this:
#!/bin/sh
pkg_info -R '*' | sed -n '
/^Information for /{
N
N
/Required by:/d
s/^Information for \(.*\):\n\n$/\1/p
}
'
HTH, Nikos
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RE: packages listing
On Sun, 10 Feb 2013, Nikos Vassiliadis wrote:
On 2/10/2013 8:57 AM, Polytropon wrote:
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:52:37 -0800 (PST), Dánielisz László wrote:
Hi Everybody,
Do you have any idea how can I list those installed packages
that are not required by any other?
You can use sysutils/pkg_cutleaves to determine those.
I use this:
#!/bin/sh
pkg_info -R '*' | sed -n '
/^Information for /{
N
N
/Required by:/d
s/^Information for \(.*\):\n\n$/\1/p
}
'
Just curious, why not use pkg_info -Ra instead of pkg_info -R '*' ?
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Re: packages listing
On 2/10/2013 3:09 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: Just curious, why not use pkg_info -Ra instead of pkg_info -R '*' ? Because I didnt know -a;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: packages listing
Uhh, I got a couple of answers :) Thx everybody! From: Nikos Vassiliadis nv...@gmx.com To: Teske, Devin devin.te...@fisglobal.com Cc: Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com; Polytropon free...@edvax.de; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 2:51 PM Subject: Re: packages listing On 2/10/2013 3:09 PM, Teske, Devin wrote: Just curious, why not use pkg_info -Ra instead of pkg_info -R '*' ? Because I didnt know -a;) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
packages listing
Hi Everybody, Do you have any idea how can I list those installed packages that are not required by any other? Thx! Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: packages listing
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 22:52:37 -0800 (PST), Dánielisz László wrote: Hi Everybody, Do you have any idea how can I list those installed packages that are not required by any other? You can use sysutils/pkg_cutleaves to determine those. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: packages listing
pkg_tree -t -q On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Dánielisz László laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Everybody, Do you have any idea how can I list those installed packages that are not required by any other? Thx! Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Building a release with custom packages
Hi All, If anyone has interest, I have a new blog post on building a FreeBSD release with custom packages at http://blog.hostileadmin.com/2012/10/08/building-freebsd-media-with-custom-packages/ -- Take care Rick Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I Can Has Packages?
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:38:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: I always keep saying the ideal situation would be that you could customise and compile just your own really mission critical software and freely mix that with installing pre-compiled packages of anything else from the public repositories. To be honest, that's what I'm doing for many years now. I tend to compile only those ports where it is either required in order to obtain the software because no suitable package does exist (e. g. OpenOffice), or because I intendedly want to have access to compile-time options (e. g. mplayer), which can also apply when specific optimization is needed in order to get something into a usable state on older hardware. For everything else, packages are fine. Mixing those forms (and maybe assuming that ports can be either handled by the native make method or one of the port management tools such as portmaster) is possible. Of course you have to think first, then do, but I assume it's not needed mentioning. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I Can Has Packages?
== Polytropon wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 14:22:45 +0200 == On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:38:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: I always keep saying the ideal situation would be that you could customise and compile just your own really mission critical software and freely mix that with installing pre-compiled packages of anything else from the public repositories. To be honest, that's what I'm doing for many years now. I tend to compile only those ports where it is either required in order to obtain the software because no suitable package does exist (e. g. OpenOffice), or because I intendedly want to have access to compile-time options (e. g. mplayer), which can also apply when specific optimization is needed in order to get something into a usable state on older hardware. For everything else, packages are fine. Mixing those forms (and maybe assuming that ports can be either handled by the native make method or one of the port management tools such as portmaster) is possible. Of course you have to think first, then do, but I assume it's not needed mentioning. :-) It's good people have the option to install packages if they so wish. Personally, I don't think i've ever used a precompiled package on FreeBSD; I much prefer to compile from source, especially when updating my system (different topic i know). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
I Can Has Packages?
HI, OpenBSD seems to have packages for everything, even for LAME (audio/lame), why FreeBSD can not provide package for LAME the same way as OpenBSD does? Regards, vermaden -- ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I Can Has Packages?
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:33:49 +0200, vermaden wrote: HI, OpenBSD seems to have packages for everything, even for LAME (audio/lame), why FreeBSD can not provide package for LAME the same way as OpenBSD does? j00 CAN haz pakagez. =^_^= Packages for _everything_ is impossible because of the many options that may or MAY NOT fit your needs, so things have to be set at compile time. Just imagine how many different packages you would have to host for OpenOffice! In the past, pkg_add -r de-openoffice would have given you a full-featured german version of OpenOffice, even including a dictionary. Today, it's not that easy anymore. There are also ports that draw a massive slew of dependencies. Some of them are of minor importance, like documentation that urges you to install LaTeX. If that's the default the package has been created from, installing it will bring teTeX to your system too, even if _you_ don't need it. Also consider programs like mplayer that can have a lot of codecs. Because it's illegal in the U.S. to listen to MP3, those may not be included. :-) Okay, you get the idea: There may apply shipping restrictions. If I remember correctly, there has been such an issue for lame in the past, but I thought that it would have been resolved. When trying make package, it was not possible, and there also was not package for use with pkg_add. You _had_ to compile it yourself because the terms of use told so. The ports collections has a specific field in Makefile that gives you information about such issues: RESTRICTED= patent issues, see http://www.mp3licensing.com/ So if OpenBSD serves a lame package (I mean a package containing lame), you should ask them in how far they have an agreement that allows them to do so, in comparison to what patent issues prohibit doing the same on FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I Can Has Packages?
Hai ;) Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:33:49 +0200, vermaden wrote: HI, OpenBSD seems to have packages for everything, even for LAME (audio/lame), why FreeBSD can not provide package for LAME the same way as OpenBSD does? j00 CAN haz pakagez. =^_^= Packages for _everything_ is impossible because of the many options that may or MAY NOT fit your needs, so things have to be set at compile time. Just imagine how many different packages you would have to host for OpenOffice! In the past, pkg_add -r de-openoffice would have given you a full-featured german version of OpenOffice, even including a dictionary. Today, it's not that easy anymore. The OpenBSD team serves these 'complicated' packages by using *flavours* and *subpackages*, packages or their parts compiled with different options, its described in the OpenBSD FAQ here: http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html | 15.2.3 - Finding packages | | (...) | | You will notice that certain packages are available in a | few different varieties, formally called flavors. Others | are pieces of the same application which may be | installed separately. They are called subpackages. | This will be detailed further in Using flavors and | subpackages but flavor basically means they are | configured with different sets of options. Currently, | many packages have flavors, for example: database | support, support for systems without X, or network | additions like SSL and IPv6. Every flavor of a package | will have a different suffix in its package name. For | detailed information about package names, please | refer to packages-specs(7). There are also ports that draw a massive slew of dependencies. Some of them are of minor importance, like documentation that urges you to install LaTeX. If that's the default the package has been created from, installing it will bring teTeX to your system too, even if _you_ don't need it. Also consider programs like mplayer that can have a lot of codecs. Because it's illegal in the U.S. to listen to MP3, those may not be included. :-) Okay, you get the idea: There may apply shipping restrictions. If I remember correctly, there has been such an issue for lame in the past, but I thought that it would have been resolved. When trying make package, it was not possible, and there also was not package for use with pkg_add. You _had_ to compile it yourself because the terms of use told so. The ports collections has a specific field in Makefile that gives you information about such issues: RESTRICTED= patent issues, see http://www.mp3licensing.com/ So if OpenBSD serves a lame package (I mean a package containing lame), you should ask them in how far they have an agreement that allows them to do so, in comparison to what patent issues prohibit doing the same on FreeBSD. The OpenBSD port from here: http://openports.se/audio/lame Has its description of LAME as a *educational* tool, maybe that is the reason why they provide package for LAME: | LAME is an educational tool to be used for learning about MP3 | encoding. The goal of the LAME project is to improve the psycho | acoustics, quality and speed of MP3 encoding. My buddy has sent email to OpenBSD LAME port maintainer with question why they can distribute that without concerns, I will let You know if he gets the answer. Regards, vermaden -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I Can Has Packages?
... I even got a screenshot of how these *flavours* and *subpackages* work, here: http://ompldr.org/vZjV2bQ Polytropon free...@edvax.de pisze: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:33:49 +0200, vermaden wrote: HI, OpenBSD seems to have packages for everything, even for LAME (audio/lame), why FreeBSD can not provide package for LAME the same way as OpenBSD does? j00 CAN haz pakagez. =^_^= Packages for _everything_ is impossible because of the many options that may or MAY NOT fit your needs, so things have to be set at compile time. Just imagine how many different packages you would have to host for OpenOffice! In the past, pkg_add -r de-openoffice would have given you a full-featured german version of OpenOffice, even including a dictionary. Today, it's not that easy anymore. There are also ports that draw a massive slew of dependencies. Some of them are of minor importance, like documentation that urges you to install LaTeX. If that's the default the package has been created from, installing it will bring teTeX to your system too, even if _you_ don't need it. Also consider programs like mplayer that can have a lot of codecs. Because it's illegal in the U.S. to listen to MP3, those may not be included. :-) Okay, you get the idea: There may apply shipping restrictions. If I remember correctly, there has been such an issue for lame in the past, but I thought that it would have been resolved. When trying make package, it was not possible, and there also was not package for use with pkg_add. You _had_ to compile it yourself because the terms of use told so. The ports collections has a specific field in Makefile that gives you information about such issues: RESTRICTED= patent issues, see http://www.mp3licensing.com/ So if OpenBSD serves a lame package (I mean a package containing lame), you should ask them in how far they have an agreement that allows them to do so, in comparison to what patent issues prohibit doing the same on FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... -- ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I Can Has Packages?
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:54:52 +0200, vermaden wrote: Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:33:49 +0200, vermaden wrote: HI, OpenBSD seems to have packages for everything, even for LAME (audio/lame), why FreeBSD can not provide package for LAME the same way as OpenBSD does? j00 CAN haz pakagez. =^_^= Packages for _everything_ is impossible because of the many options that may or MAY NOT fit your needs, so things have to be set at compile time. Just imagine how many different packages you would have to host for OpenOffice! In the past, pkg_add -r de-openoffice would have given you a full-featured german version of OpenOffice, even including a dictionary. Today, it's not that easy anymore. The OpenBSD team serves these 'complicated' packages by using *flavours* and *subpackages*, packages or their parts compiled with different options, its described in the OpenBSD FAQ here: http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html | 15.2.3 - Finding packages | | (...) | | You will notice that certain packages are available in a | few different varieties, formally called flavors. Others | are pieces of the same application which may be | installed separately. They are called subpackages. | This will be detailed further in Using flavors and | subpackages but flavor basically means they are | configured with different sets of options. Currently, | many packages have flavors, for example: database | support, support for systems without X, or network | additions like SSL and IPv6. Every flavor of a package | will have a different suffix in its package name. For | detailed information about package names, please | refer to packages-specs(7). Interesting. That should work for packages with not so many options. Opera has, if I remember correctly, 4 options, resulting in tons of different dependencies; mplayer has more options than you can fit on one screen (while we assume the screen has 24 or 25 lines). It's an easy task to calculate for a package with n options, each can be set or not set, how many packages would have to be built and served. :-) I just assume providing packages for every imaginable combination requires lots of resources. As an example take OpenOffice: Every language variant, then integration with KDE, Gnome, or none of them, and printing support (I think). That would be many hours of compiling, and lots of storage space needed (note: current _and_ older packages are needed, plus supported architectures). There are also ports that draw a massive slew of dependencies. Some of them are of minor importance, like documentation that urges you to install LaTeX. If that's the default the package has been created from, installing it will bring teTeX to your system too, even if _you_ don't need it. Also consider programs like mplayer that can have a lot of codecs. Because it's illegal in the U.S. to listen to MP3, those may not be included. :-) Okay, you get the idea: There may apply shipping restrictions. If I remember correctly, there has been such an issue for lame in the past, but I thought that it would have been resolved. When trying make package, it was not possible, and there also was not package for use with pkg_add. You _had_ to compile it yourself because the terms of use told so. The ports collections has a specific field in Makefile that gives you information about such issues: RESTRICTED= patent issues, see http://www.mp3licensing.com/ So if OpenBSD serves a lame package (I mean a package containing lame), you should ask them in how far they have an agreement that allows them to do so, in comparison to what patent issues prohibit doing the same on FreeBSD. The OpenBSD port from here: http://openports.se/audio/lame Has its description of LAME as a *educational* tool, maybe that is the reason why they provide package for LAME: | LAME is an educational tool to be used for learning about MP3 | encoding. The goal of the LAME project is to improve the psycho | acoustics, quality and speed of MP3 encoding. My buddy has sent email to OpenBSD LAME port maintainer with question why they can distribute that without concerns, I will let You know if he gets the answer. That's really a good reason to avoid the restriction. I think some specific kind of agreement has to be made to have this declaration take effect and allow packaging the software. There are other ports that don't have equivalents on FreeBSD. A good example is Java. While I think it's possible to package the software (the make package command), the current vendor or Java (no idea who is it today) forces you do manually download the sources and put them into /usr/ports/distfiles, requiring you to interactively agree with their terms of use. Now keep working harder and carry a towel. =^_^= -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa
Re: I Can Has Packages?
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:27:54PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 23:27:54 +0200 From: Polytropon free...@edvax.de Subject: Re: I Can Has Packages? To: vermaden verma...@interia.pl Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 22:54:52 +0200, vermaden wrote: Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 20:33:49 +0200, vermaden wrote: HI, OpenBSD seems to have packages for everything, even for LAME (audio/lame), why FreeBSD can not provide package for LAME the same way as OpenBSD does? j00 CAN haz pakagez. =^_^= Packages for _everything_ is impossible because of the many options that may or MAY NOT fit your needs, so things have to be set at compile time. Just imagine how many different packages you would have to host for OpenOffice! In the past, pkg_add -r de-openoffice would have given you a full-featured german version of OpenOffice, even including a dictionary. Today, it's not that easy anymore. The OpenBSD team serves these 'complicated' packages by using *flavours* and *subpackages*, packages or their parts compiled with different options, its described in the OpenBSD FAQ here: http://openbsd.org/faq/faq15.html | 15.2.3 - Finding packages | | (...) | | You will notice that certain packages are available in a | few different varieties, formally called flavors. Others | are pieces of the same application which may be | installed separately. They are called subpackages. | This will be detailed further in Using flavors and | subpackages but flavor basically means they are | configured with different sets of options. Currently, | many packages have flavors, for example: database | support, support for systems without X, or network | additions like SSL and IPv6. Every flavor of a package | will have a different suffix in its package name. For | detailed information about package names, please | refer to packages-specs(7). Interesting. That should work for packages with not so many options. Opera has, if I remember correctly, 4 options, resulting in tons of different dependencies; mplayer has more options than you can fit on one screen (while we assume the screen has 24 or 25 lines). It's an easy task to calculate for a package with n options, each can be set or not set, how many packages would have to be built and served. :-) I just assume providing packages for every imaginable combination requires lots of resources. As an example take OpenOffice: Every language variant, then integration with KDE, Gnome, or none of them, and printing support (I think). That would be many hours of compiling, and lots of storage space needed (note: current _and_ older packages are needed, plus supported architectures). There are also ports that draw a massive slew of dependencies. Some of them are of minor importance, like documentation that urges you to install LaTeX. If that's the default the package has been created from, installing it will bring teTeX to your system too, even if _you_ don't need it. Also consider programs like mplayer that can have a lot of codecs. Because it's illegal in the U.S. to listen to MP3, those may not be included. :-) Okay, you get the idea: There may apply shipping restrictions. If I remember correctly, there has been such an issue for lame in the past, but I thought that it would have been resolved. When trying make package, it was not possible, and there also was not package for use with pkg_add. You _had_ to compile it yourself because the terms of use told so. The ports collections has a specific field in Makefile that gives you information about such issues: RESTRICTED= patent issues, see http://www.mp3licensing.com/ So if OpenBSD serves a lame package (I mean a package containing lame), you should ask them in how far they have an agreement that allows them to do so, in comparison to what patent issues prohibit doing the same on FreeBSD. The OpenBSD port from here: http://openports.se/audio/lame Has its description of LAME as a *educational* tool, maybe that is the reason why they provide package for LAME: | LAME is an educational tool to be used for learning about MP3 | encoding. The goal of the LAME project is to improve the psycho | acoustics, quality and speed of MP3 encoding. My buddy has sent email to OpenBSD LAME port maintainer with question why they can distribute that without concerns, I will let You know if he gets the answer. That's really a good reason to avoid the restriction. I think some specific kind of agreement has to be made to have this declaration take effect and allow packaging the software. There are other ports that don't have equivalents on FreeBSD. A good example is Java. While I think it's possible
Re: I Can Has Packages?
Polytropon == Polytropon free...@edvax.de writes: Polytropon I just assume providing packages for every imaginable Polytropon combination requires lots of resources. As an example Polytropon take OpenOffice: Every language variant, then integration Polytropon with KDE, Gnome, or none of them, and printing support Polytropon (I think). That would be many hours of compiling, and Polytropon lots of storage space needed (note: current _and_ older Polytropon packages are needed, plus supported architectures). Indeed. Which is why I gave up on packages long ago. Learn. To. Compile. Embrace your local cc. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 mer...@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.posterous.com/ for Smalltalk discussion ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: I Can Has Packages?
On 20/08/2012 04:07, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Polytropon == Polytropon free...@edvax.de writes: Polytropon I just assume providing packages for every imaginable Polytropon combination requires lots of resources. As an example Polytropon take OpenOffice: Every language variant, then integration Polytropon with KDE, Gnome, or none of them, and printing support Polytropon (I think). That would be many hours of compiling, and Polytropon lots of storage space needed (note: current _and_ older Polytropon packages are needed, plus supported architectures). Indeed. Which is why I gave up on packages long ago. Learn. To. Compile. Embrace your local cc. :) Well, I hope there is some sort of happy medium between the level of package support in FreeBSD at the moment, and compiling everything from source. That's what the pkgng project hopes to achieve anyhow. On the question of supporting flavours and sub-packages: yes, this will be absolutely necessary. Even so, it won't provide /all/ the flexibility that compiling your own does, but it should target the most commonly used combinations of options. I always keep saying the ideal situation would be that you could customise and compile just your own really mission critical software and freely mix that with installing pre-compiled packages of anything else from the public repositories. Note that sub-packages is effectively a way of reducing the number of options in many ports: a lot of the time options enable/disable compiling additional bits of software or adding/removing various files from the resulting packages, but those files could just as easily be supplied as a sub-package. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Updating packages
I have tried the available package update methods. It occurred to me to experiment with a different way. I am working on a package update script in Python as an alternate way to update installed packages with latest available on the FreeBSD web site. It parses the index page of the web site and compares the versions of installed packages. If their is a difference it downloads the package tbz file and performs an MD5 checksum, then writes the corresponding pkg_delete and pkg_add for the package into a file which can be edited and executed from the command line. It does not automatically update the packages, for example in some cases the script reports that an older version of Perl is a suitable replacement for the latest version. Also on my system there are like seventeen versions of doc_book package so it writes the pkg_delete for each installed version and pkg_add for the latest version. (in which case we would not really want to install it seventeen times). Does anyone have recollection of a negative experience using 'pkg_delete --force' to the old version and 'pkg_add' the replacement? Would you say it's generally a bad idea to first delete the package before adding the updated package, and instead recommend to install the updated package on top of the existing installation? My project is at the following URL: https://github.com/creamy/pkg_checkversion Thanks, Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
Hi folks, i ran into problems keeping my ports-collection up to date. Although i did a portsnap fet and install i think there are obsolete an old ports still on the disk. I tried to compile a programm and it complained about an older version of a depending package. I deleted the whole ports-dir, did the fetch and extract again, problem persists still. Yes, i searched all the forums and read a lot about managing ports and packages. Right now i am stuck. So, how do i delete really *all* ports and *all* packages at once? Is it possible with doing a fectch and extract having the latest ports? I was recommended to use only portmaster and not to use sysinstall after a finished installation. Well, i dont know. -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/stay-up-to-date-with-ports-and-packages-problem-tp570.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On 19/05/2012 15:27, Beastie-Boy wrote: i ran into problems keeping my ports-collection up to date. Although i did a portsnap fet and install i think there are obsolete an old ports still on the disk. portsnap will synchronise your ports tree with what is in the FreeBSD CVS repo. The way it works, you shouldn't get any old ports left cluttering up /usr/ports unless things have gone very wrong. In which case portsnap would be emitting all sorts of error messages and the fact that there was a problem would be obvious. I tried to compile a programm and it complained about an older version of a depending package. OK. This is a conceptual thing. The ports tree (ie. /usr/ports) is a set of *instructions* for how to build and install ports. portsnap will update all those instructions in the ports tree, but to update the actual ports you have installed requires use of a different software package. I deleted the whole ports-dir, did the fetch and extract again, problem persists still. Yep. I hope you can see from what I wrote above how doing that wouldn't solve the problem you are seeing. Yes, i searched all the forums and read a lot about managing ports and packages. Right now i am stuck. So, how do i delete really *all* ports and *all* packages at once? That's a bit drastic and pretty much something you'ld never actually want to do in normal usage. However, for completeness' sake: # pkg_delete -af will remove all installed ports. After doing that there should be hardly anything left under /usr/local -- most of what's left would be config files in /usr/local/etc. But don't do that. It is a big waste of time and completely unnecessary. Is it possible with doing a fectch and extract having the latest ports? I was recommended to use only portmaster and not to use sysinstall after a finished installation. Well, i dont know. The advice to use portmaster is good. A typical session to maintain all your ports goes something like this: # portsnap fetch update (Gets the latest contents for /usr/ports) # less /usr/ports/UPDATING (Check for any special instructions affecting any ports you have installed. Assuming nothing out of the ordinary is required (and it usually isn't), then...) # pkg_version -vIL= (see what needs updating) # portmaster -a (update everything out of date) and that's it. It's not particularly hard to do, although it can be time consuming, and very occasionally something will glitch out. If you wait a day or so and then try again the glitch will probably have been fixed. You'll find updates are more likely to run smoothly if you do them like this regularly -- monthly should be adequate -- plus immediate updates of anything portaudit reports has security problems.) Your original problem -- a port not installing because of an out of date dependency -- can be easily cured by: # portmaster category/example where category/example is the port's directory path under /usr/ports. This will update all dependencies as required before installing category/example. If you are still experiencing problems, please save a transcript of your updating session and put it on a pastebin site, and then ask again here with a link to the transcript. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Matthew Seaman wrote: That's a bit drastic and pretty much something you'ld never actually want to do in normal usage. However, for completeness' sake: # pkg_delete -af will remove all installed ports. After doing that there should be hardly anything left under /usr/local -- most of what's left would be config files in /usr/local/etc. The -f is probably not needed. I've done this rarely enough to not recall, but -a should sort everything in the right order so dependencies are uninstalled in order. The advice to use portmaster is good. A typical session to maintain all your ports goes something like this: # portsnap fetch update (Gets the latest contents for /usr/ports) # less /usr/ports/UPDATING (Check for any special instructions affecting any ports you have installed. Assuming nothing out of the ordinary is required (and it usually isn't), then...) # pkg_version -vIL= (see what needs updating) # portmaster -a (update everything out of date) portmaster can show ports that can be updated: portmaster -L --index-only Or, more concisely: portmaster -L --index-only | egrep '(ew|ort) version|total install' There's a short overview of port upgrading procedures and reasoning at http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html . ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On 19/05/2012 16:07, Warren Block wrote: The -f is probably not needed. I've done this rarely enough to not recall, but -a should sort everything in the right order so dependencies are uninstalled in order. I find that 'pkg_delete -af' gives more reliable results. Agreed, it should not be necessary but sometimes the dependency relationships between ports aren't generated quite right, and '-f' just lets pkg_delete do its thing without worrying about that -- not that dependency ordering matters at all when you're deleting everything in any case. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
Ok, many thanks for your replies. I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE. That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk. The problem i had was that gdm, gnome didnt start after the upgrade. So i tried to build the gnome and gdm thing again via pkg_add(didnt work) and make install clean in ports(either). Right now i deleted all ports in /usr, deleted packages in /var and portsnaped me the all stuff again. After that i pkg_add -r gnome2 again and now it looks better. Before i had problems that package-1.2.3 is needed to build an only package-1.2.2 is installed. Sorry i cant paste logs, bsd is running on another machine. so long -- View this message in context: http://freebsd.1045724.n5.nabble.com/stay-up-to-date-with-ports-and-packages-problem-tp570p5710066.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Beastie-Boy wrote: Ok, many thanks for your replies. I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE. That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk. When you cross a major OS release boundary, you need to force a rebuild of all installed package, or reinstall from package files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On Sat, 19 May 2012 19:43:09 +0100, RW wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Beastie-Boy wrote: Ok, many thanks for your replies. I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE. That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk. When you cross a major OS release boundary, you need to force a rebuild of all installed package, or reinstall from package files. It's often easy to do this using a port management tool. See man portmaster containing an example of exactly this procedure (EXAMPLES section). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On 19/05/2012 20:08, Beastie-Boy wrote: I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE. That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk. Ahah! That is exactly the situation where you do want to remove all your installed ports and rebuild them. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Beastie-Boy wrote: Ok, many thanks for your replies. I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE. That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk. When you do such an update (major version number), you should always reinstall (update) your applications. You can avoid it by installing the compat-Nx-i386 or compat-Nx-amd64 ports (where N is the previously used major version number). You've found many advices on how to do that already from the list. The problem i had was that gdm, gnome didnt start after the upgrade. That was to be expected. So i tried to build the gnome and gdm thing again via pkg_add(didnt work) and make install clean in ports(either). You should make sure _all_ dependencies get recompiled. Using a port management tool for this task often is more comfortable than dealing with the bare ports (but it basically is not wrong). Right now i deleted all ports in /usr, deleted packages in /var and portsnaped me the all stuff again. Depending on how you deleted, it _might_ be required to reconstruct the directory subtree /usr/local from the respective mtree file in /etc/mtree. If you _really_ intend to delete everything, make sure you have backups of config files, data files or your own modifications to something located in the local/ subtree (for example /usr/local/etc). After that i pkg_add -r gnome2 again and now it looks better. Erm... when you're installing binary packages, you don't have to deal with ports at all. Before i had problems that package-1.2.3 is needed to build an only package-1.2.2 is installed. Correct, this happens when packages have lower version numbers (not totally up to date) than the respective port would have. That's why it's often a good idea to use _either_ ports _or_ packages (even though technically there is no problem mixing them). Again, allow me to mention port management tools. Using for example portmaster, many tasks are easier to perform than dealing with bare ports. Even the use of precompiled packages (if desired) is possible. See man portmaster and its EXAMPLES section for inspiration. Sorry i cant paste logs, bsd is running on another machine. You can use SSH to log into the BSD machine and cut text from the session. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On 19/05/2012 21:09, Polytropon wrote: Sorry i cant paste logs, bsd is running on another machine. You can use SSH to log into the BSD machine and cut text from the session. :-) Or just run: % script /tmp/session.log Do all your updating tasks, then type 'exit' when done, and you'll get a transcript of everything displayed on your terminal in session.log Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: stay up to date with ports and packages, problem
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:08:19 -0700 (PDT), Beastie-Boy wrote: Ok, many thanks for your replies. I forgot to tell that i recently upgraded from 8.1 to 9.0-RELEASE. That excplains maybe why i had obsolete/old packages/ports on my disk. When you do such an update (major version number), you should always reinstall (update) your applications. You can avoid it by installing the compat-Nx-i386 or compat-Nx-amd64 ports (where N is the previously used major version number). You've found many advices on how to do that already from the list. The problem i had was that gdm, gnome didnt start after the upgrade. That was to be expected. So i tried to build the gnome and gdm thing again via pkg_add(didnt work) and make install clean in ports(either). You should make sure _all_ dependencies get recompiled. Using a port management tool for this task often is more comfortable than dealing with the bare ports (but it basically is not wrong). There are two great tools for dealing with problems stemming from the update of a single port going bad: pkg_cleanup and pkg_tree. I prefer portmaster over portupdate because portmaster only uses the data that is there from building or adding port/packages. portmaster probably works better for me because I only update in response to a need or problem. I do not have enough time or computing power to build what is required for a workstation. I am using FreeBSD 9.0 and xfce 4.8. To get the functionality I had with KDE3.5 I ended up with 489 packages. I had hoped for a smaller number but that seems to be the norm for KDE or Gome. The only ports I built were a couple that insisted on installing an older version of perl and/or python. Everything else was via package add. In my experience this model only works near the front of a major release. As the lower level ports diverge updates must be built. Here pkg_cleanup is a great tool for taking a step back. Perhaps building regularly on a weekly basis and updating everying would work. For me after I get a functional system I only add new stuff. I do not remember having to reinstalling something because it did not work. Before someone pointed out pkg_cleanup I pretty completely broke my desktop (this in the 7.x days) just by upgrading firefox and then chasing the issues that came up. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Preventing portmaster from using packages for specified ports
I'm happy to use the -P option to let portmaster use packages for most of my ports but there's a few that must be compiled from the port instead because I need to configure non default options, e.g. to enable GIMP plugin support in graphics/xsane Is there any way of forcing portmaster to never use packages for certain specified ports? -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Preventing portmaster from using packages for specified ports
--On May 8, 2012 9:33:59 PM +0100 Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: I'm happy to use the -P option to let portmaster use packages for most of my ports but there's a few that must be compiled from the port instead because I need to configure non default options, e.g. to enable GIMP plugin support in graphics/xsane Is there any way of forcing portmaster to never use packages for certain specified ports? -- Would this work for you? From the manpage: For those who wish to be sure that specific ports are always compiled instead of being installed from packages the PT_NO_INSTALL_PACKAGE vari- able can be defined in the make(1) environment, perhaps in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf if using /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portconf, or in /etc/make.conf. This setting is not compatible with the -PP/--packages-only option. pgpBUQ7LBK3b1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Preventing portmaster from using packages for specified ports
On Tuesday 08 May 2012, John Webster wrote: Would this work for you? From the manpage: For those who wish to be sure that specific ports are always compiled instead of being installed from packages the PT_NO_INSTALL_PACKAGE vari- able can be defined in the make(1) environment, perhaps in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf if using /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portconf, or in /etc/make.conf. This setting is not compatible with the -PP/--packages-only option. Yes, that looks like exactly what I need. I don't know how I missed it, I must have searched through the manpage several times and had a total blind spot for that paragraph - sorry for looking so dumb. -- Mike Clarke ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Preventing portmaster from using packages for specified ports
--On May 8, 2012 10:51:16 PM +0100 Mike Clarke jmc-freeb...@milibyte.co.uk wrote: On Tuesday 08 May 2012, John Webster wrote: Would this work for you? From the manpage: For those who wish to be sure that specific ports are always compiled instead of being installed from packages the PT_NO_INSTALL_PACKAGE vari- able can be defined in the make(1) environment, perhaps in /usr/local/etc/ports.conf if using /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portconf, or in /etc/make.conf. This setting is not compatible with the -PP/--packages-only option. Yes, that looks like exactly what I need. I don't know how I missed it, I must have searched through the manpage several times and had a total blind spot for that paragraph - sorry for looking so dumb. -- Mike Clarke I know how that is, I've missed stuff in the manpages too. grin sorry for looking so dumb. Not dumb. You had a question and you asked it on freebsd-questions looking for an answer. That's smart in my book. That's what the list is for. Cheers, jw ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
2012-02-01 19:16, David Jackson skrev: I did not save them, there is really no way to save a copy of them unless I copy them by hand. I take it you are new to FreeBSD. May I introduce you to script man script(1) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-02-01 19:16, David Jackson skrev: I did not save them, there is really no way to save a copy of them unless I copy them by hand. I take it you are new to FreeBSD. May I introduce you to script man script(1) __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org One thing I noticed, which may cause some trouble(?) http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-10-current/ is empty, no packages. So pkg_add fails for everything... Running 10-CURRENT I have to set PACKAGESITE to http://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-current/Latest/ It's been years since I've run a HEAD version of FreeBSD - maybe this is common knowledge. :) But It seems like there could be a symlink or something. Also, I'm still looking into it - but it seems like it would be good to have an easy way to 'reinstall' a package. It seems to be pretty stubborn when trying to deinstall/reinstall stuff. For example, after i upgraded from 9.0-RELEASE to 10-CURRENT, the thing was complaining about libintl, gettext, iconv. pkg_add was refusing to 'reinstall' (but this might be related my own ignorance), so I ended up going into ports and building, then the system was fulling operational, yay. However, it could be that these did not need to be reinstalled. pkg_add was telling me I already had the latest versions installed, and when I finally got down to the meat of my problem I found that my /etc/rc was never replaced. Either I fat-fingered a mergemaster prompt (but I really thought I was paying close attention), or mergemaster missed it! :) There was no /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rc after mergemaster, and mergemaster reported that only two files were left to do by hand, which is what I had intended. (ie, groups, master.passwd) But doing a diff between /usr/src/etc/rc (i think) and /etc/rc I saw they were different, copied the file and 10-CURRENT ran perfectly. Waitman Gobble San Jose California USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
At 19:16 01/02/2012, David Jackson wrote: They seem to have failed because they couldn't find the package on the download site. Other errors I got were that the package it had downloaded had an unrecognized format. I did not save them, there is really no way to save a copy of them unless I copy them by hand. I will have to rerun the commands to get the error messages and then transfer them by hand. In my first mail i didn't think about this, but: In your OP you don't say the version of FreeBSD you're running. Show a uname -a please. Is it a RELEASE, like 8.2-RELEASEpx? If it's a RELEASE perhaps you don't know that the packages are frozen but all are known to work without problems. Switch to -STABLE if you want access newer packages but perhaps there will be problems with them from time to time. Check -stable maillist. HTH ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
At 11:42 31/01/2012, you wrote: While your offer is made with the best of intentions, I doubt the project would feel able take you up on it. The problem is simply one of security -- while crowd-sourcing package compilation would be a pretty sweet technical solution to much of the scaling and resource cost problems, it offers far too much opportunity for people up-to-no-good to be able to introduce trojans, spyware and so forth. No no, i didn't said i will make them manually, i wanted to said that i can add one server amd64 to the pool of automate servers that make the packages, i think it works automatically and distribute workload like boinc or other similar net. About the people which introduce trojans, rootkits etc... i didn't think on that issue and is really a very important stopper. With the rest of your mail, i agree with you, my idea was completly halfthinked (is it the correct word?). Mental Note to remember: Beside daemons, there are devils. L ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:33 AM, Eduardo Morras nec...@retena.com wrote: At 11:42 31/01/2012, you wrote: While your offer is made with the best of intentions, I doubt the project would feel able take you up on it. The problem is simply one of security -- while crowd-sourcing package compilation would be a pretty sweet technical solution to much of the scaling and resource cost problems, it offers far too much opportunity for people up-to-no-good to be able to introduce trojans, spyware and so forth. No no, i didn't said i will make them manually, i wanted to said that i can add one server amd64 to the pool of automate servers that make the packages, i think it works automatically and distribute workload like boinc or other similar net. About the people which introduce trojans, rootkits etc... i didn't think on that issue and is really a very important stopper. With the rest of your mail, i agree with you, my idea was completly halfthinked (is it the correct word?). That security issue is a serious problem with that idea. I had thought of this idea before and discarded it because its unworkable (the crowd sourcing thing). Mental Note to remember: Beside daemons, there are devils. L __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:54 AM, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-01-31 01:13, freebsd-lists-erik@**erikosterholm.orgfreebsd-lists-e...@erikosterholm.orgskrev: Oh come on, guys. David is the same person who said that FreeBSD was poorly documented. http://osdir.com/ml/freebsd-**questions/2011-12/msg00684.**htmlhttp://osdir.com/ml/freebsd-questions/2011-12/msg00684.html I'll give him the benefit of the doubt a bit longer. I do not. He is a whino. Blocked here from now on. My posts have always been sincere. It would seem to you that anyone who does not agree with you is whining. I would suggest it is you who have an unreasonable attitude. At least respect other people's right to express their views. __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote: 2012-01-30 18:52, David Jackson skrev: I have tried endlessly to no avail to upgrade binary the packages on Freebsd to the latest version. I have tried: *portupgrade -PP -a *portmaster -PP -a *pkg_update All fail miserably and totally and have left the system in an unuseable state. What is the error message? They seem to have failed because they couldn't find the package on the download site. Other errors I got were that the package it had downloaded had an unrecognized format. I did not save them, there is really no way to save a copy of them unless I copy them by hand. I will have to rerun the commands to get the error messages and then transfer them by hand. Why can't FreeBSD just make the package system just work. It's already just works It does for you. I've had big problems with it. Right after installing FreeBSD I should be able to type a single command such as update_packages http://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/**en_US.ISO8859-1/books/** handbook/updating-upgrading-**freebsdupdate.htmlhttp://www.se.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 01:52:19AM +0100, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 18:40:50 -0500, David Jackson wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Polytropon wrote: Other things to keep in mind are language settings. One example is OpenOffice which needs to have the language setting at compile time, especially if you're not using the english language. You could compile a version of that for each language and I think thats what Ubuntu does, or, just compile maybe top 1 or 2 most commonly used language version and then other versions could be user compiled. There are, I think... at least 10 languages available, and combine this with Gnome, KDE and CUPS support OFF or ON, and you have 10*2*2*2 = 80 packages, and still no scheme to name them. :-) Don't forget compiling for multiple architectures. That adds more options -- and, unlike some of those other options, compiling for different architectures is often actually a mutually-exclusive option set. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Unable to upgrade packages on FreeBSD
At 00:45 31/01/2012, RW wrote: Making it work like Ubuntu would need a lot more hardware and a lot more work from port maintainers to support branching the ports tree. At the moment there aren't really enough to maintain one tree. Making a resume/summary of the thread; more hardware, time and people are needed to maintain a package system up-to-date. I have a free server (amd64 freebsd8.2p6), if i built all packages with their standard options, that's without make config, Can i upload them to the official package ftp? Should i make my own un-official ftp package server to allow others download them? Perhaps it's not clear, this answer has ironic mode off, joking mode off and i want to collaborate making the standard packages. When i needed the package system? When i don't want a downtime if a server must be reinstalled. Compiling everything takes too much time for non critical ports (bash, gcc4.6, ...), even at first i pkg_add important apps, when everything is working, i update them by ports. L ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
