RE: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
--On May 3, 2006 10:39:52 PM -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's still not working then yes. Incidentally you need to turn off SSL on your e-mail, I cannot open your mails with my normal mail client. It's working fine since I installed 6.1. The odd thing is, I thought I needed the bce driver, but the 6.1 install detected the NIC and used the bge driver. That driver is available in 6.0 as well, yet it didn't work in that install. Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --On May 3, 2006 10:39:52 PM -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's still not working then yes. Incidentally you need to turn off SSL on your e-mail, I cannot open your mails with my normal mail client. It's working fine since I installed 6.1. The odd thing is, I thought I needed the bce driver, but the 6.1 install detected the NIC and used the bge driver. That driver is available in 6.0 as well, yet it didn't work in that install. Why is this confusing? Drivers get updated to cover newer versions of chips which didn't exist or weren't available to the developer when originally written. If you really care then check out the CVS history for your driver from the FreeBSD site (developer / CVS Repository / web interface). --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
Alex Zbyslaw wrote: It's working fine since I installed 6.1. The odd thing is, I thought I needed the bce driver, but the 6.1 install detected the NIC and used the bge driver. That driver is available in 6.0 as well, yet it didn't work in that install. Why is this confusing? Drivers get updated to cover newer versions of chips which didn't exist or weren't available to the developer when originally written. If you really care then check out the CVS history for your driver from the FreeBSD site (developer / CVS Repository / web interface). If I understand what you're saying, you're saying that the driver only gets updated for the latest OS? That seems a bit absurd to me. Wouldn't the bge driver be the same for every OS version that it's available for? -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
Paul Schmehl wrote: Alex Zbyslaw wrote: It's working fine since I installed 6.1. The odd thing is, I thought I needed the bce driver, but the 6.1 install detected the NIC and used the bge driver. That driver is available in 6.0 as well, yet it didn't work in that install. Why is this confusing? Drivers get updated to cover newer versions of chips which didn't exist or weren't available to the developer when originally written. If you really care then check out the CVS history for your driver from the FreeBSD site (developer / CVS Repository / web interface). If I understand what you're saying, you're saying that the driver only gets updated for the latest OS? That seems a bit absurd to me. Wouldn't the bge driver be the same for every OS version that it's available for? Seems absurd to you; seems perfectly understandable to me. There is no such thing as the bge driver. There are numerous revisions of a bge driver and each OS version has it's own revision that was current when the OS was released. That's what a new OS version is: updated drivers and core utilities. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Schmehl Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 11:06 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized Alex Zbyslaw wrote: It's working fine since I installed 6.1. The odd thing is, I thought I needed the bce driver, but the 6.1 install detected the NIC and used the bge driver. That driver is available in 6.0 as well, yet it didn't work in that install. Why is this confusing? Drivers get updated to cover newer versions of chips which didn't exist or weren't available to the developer when originally written. If you really care then check out the CVS history for your driver from the FreeBSD site (developer / CVS Repository / web interface). If I understand what you're saying, you're saying that the driver only gets updated for the latest OS? That seems a bit absurd to me. Wouldn't the bge driver be the same for every OS version that it's available for? All parts of FreeBSD are constantly being worked on. It is more correct to think of FreeBSD as a continuum, with the releases merely as defined points on the continuum. A number of people, in fact, run FreeBSD in such a way that every night a process on their system goes to the master CVS repository, and fetches any changes and updates that have been made, then applies them to their system. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
--On May 4, 2006 9:33:01 PM -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I understand what you're saying, you're saying that the driver only gets updated for the latest OS? That seems a bit absurd to me. Wouldn't the bge driver be the same for every OS version that it's available for? All parts of FreeBSD are constantly being worked on. It is more correct to think of FreeBSD as a continuum, with the releases merely as defined points on the continuum. A number of people, in fact, run FreeBSD in such a way that every night a process on their system goes to the master CVS repository, and fetches any changes and updates that have been made, then applies them to their system. If you're fetching src all with cvs on a RELENG version, are you getting the updates to drivers? (I would think that you are.) Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
I'm trying to set up a new laptop, and I have an odd problem. The laptop has a Broadcomm NetXtreme 57xx Gig Nic, and the install didn't recognize it. The GENERIC kernel has support for the NIC (bge and miibus), and I've done several installs on other hardware that detected the NIC just fine, but this one doesn't. There's nothing in dmesg, and ifconfig only shows lo0. How do I correct this problem? -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
On Wednesday 03 May 2006 22:52, you wrote: I'm trying to set up a new laptop, and I have an odd problem. The laptop has a Broadcomm NetXtreme 57xx Gig Nic, and the install didn't recognize it. The GENERIC kernel has support for the NIC (bge and miibus), and I've done several installs on other hardware that detected the NIC just fine, but this one doesn't. There's nothing in dmesg, and ifconfig only shows lo0. How do I correct this problem? Does any other OS on this laptop could recognize the NIC ? Maybe it is a problem of hardware ;) -- Best Regards Yuan, Jue @ www.yuanjue.net ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
Yuan, Jue wrote: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 22:52, you wrote: I'm trying to set up a new laptop, and I have an odd problem. The laptop has a Broadcomm NetXtreme 57xx Gig Nic, and the install didn't recognize it. The GENERIC kernel has support for the NIC (bge and miibus), and I've done several installs on other hardware that detected the NIC just fine, but this one doesn't. There's nothing in dmesg, and ifconfig only shows lo0. How do I correct this problem? Does any other OS on this laptop could recognize the NIC ? Maybe it is a problem of hardware ;) It's a dual boot machine. Windows XP recognizes the NIC just fine, but *not* with the default drivers that come with XP SP2. I had to install the drivers from Dell. Maybe there's something different about this NIC? -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yuan, Jue wrote: On Wednesday 03 May 2006 22:52, you wrote: I'm trying to set up a new laptop, and I have an odd problem. The laptop has a Broadcomm NetXtreme 57xx Gig Nic, and the install didn't recognize it. The GENERIC kernel has support for the NIC (bge and miibus), and I've done several installs on other hardware that detected the NIC just fine, but this one doesn't. There's nothing in dmesg, and ifconfig only shows lo0. How do I correct this problem? Does any other OS on this laptop could recognize the NIC ? Maybe it is a problem of hardware ;) It's a dual boot machine. Windows XP recognizes the NIC just fine, but *not* with the default drivers that come with XP SP2. I had to install the drivers from Dell. Maybe there's something different about this NIC? Dell often does unexpectedly proprietary things like that, so it's possible. I think you may need the bce(4) driver rther than bge(4), but that is in the GENERIC kernel these days also. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
Lowell Gilbert wrote: Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a dual boot machine. Windows XP recognizes the NIC just fine, but *not* with the default drivers that come with XP SP2. I had to install the drivers from Dell. Maybe there's something different about this NIC? Dell often does unexpectedly proprietary things like that, so it's possible. I think you may need the bce(4) driver rther than bge(4), but that is in the GENERIC kernel these days also. Hmm...bce *isn't* in the GENERIC kernel for i386 6.0 RELEASE. Is this a new driver? -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
Paul Schmehl wrote: Lowell Gilbert wrote: Paul Schmehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It's a dual boot machine. Windows XP recognizes the NIC just fine, but *not* with the default drivers that come with XP SP2. I had to install the drivers from Dell. Maybe there's something different about this NIC? Dell often does unexpectedly proprietary things like that, so it's possible. I think you may need the bce(4) driver rther than bge(4), but that is in the GENERIC kernel these days also. Hmm...bce *isn't* in the GENERIC kernel for i386 6.0 RELEASE. Is this a new driver? Yes. From bce(4): HISTORY The bce device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 6.1. KDK -- LEVERAGE: Even if someone doesn't care what the world thinks about them, they always hope their mother doesn't find out. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
--On May 3, 2006 6:02:53 PM -0500 Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Schmehl wrote: Hmm...bce *isn't* in the GENERIC kernel for i386 6.0 RELEASE. Is this a new driver? Yes. From bce(4): HISTORY The bce device driver first appeared in FreeBSD 6.1. The really odd thing is, I installed 6.1 RC2 this afternoon, and it found the NIC and used bge as the driver! Wonder why 6.0 couldn't do that? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
Re: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The really odd thing is, I installed 6.1 RC2 this afternoon, and it found the NIC and used bge as the driver! Wonder why 6.0 couldn't do that? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Well, IANAE on driver code. However, somehow or another the coder uses a string of information in his/her source code that gets compiled into the *.ko or kernel or some other object file (like I said, IANAE, so you Real Hackers please go easy on any inaccuracies in the description, pointers accepted, flames /dev/null? ;-) that helps the system to recognize whether or not it can interface with the hardware. For example: [EMAIL PROTECTED]/usr/obj/backup/src/sys/GENERIC] # strings *bge* | grep Broad Broadcom BCM5700 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5701 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5702 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5702X Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5703 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5703X Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5704S Dual Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5705 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5705K Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5705M Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5714C Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5721 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5750 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5750M Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5752 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5782 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5789 Gigabit Ethernet Broadcom BCM5901 Fast Ethernet Broadcom BCM5901A2 Fast Ethernet Or, read /sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c. My best guess is that these variations in the Broadcom family are fairly recent additions to the line, and someone (perhaps Mr. Paul himself, and, er, thank you, sir!) added the necessary information to support these new cards since November. Kevin Kinsey --- Law of Continuity: Experiments should be reproducible. They should all fail the same way. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
Paul, Please post the output of pciconf -lv Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Schmehl Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:53 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized I'm trying to set up a new laptop, and I have an odd problem. The laptop has a Broadcomm NetXtreme 57xx Gig Nic, and the install didn't recognize it. The GENERIC kernel has support for the NIC (bge and miibus), and I've done several installs on other hardware that detected the NIC just fine, but this one doesn't. There's nothing in dmesg, and ifconfig only shows lo0. How do I correct this problem? -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/328 - Release Date: 5/1/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
--On May 3, 2006 10:18:14 PM -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Please post the output of pciconf -lv I've already formatted and installed 6.1 RC2. Do you still want this? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/
RE: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized
If it's still not working then yes. Incidentally you need to turn off SSL on your e-mail, I cannot open your mails with my normal mail client. Ted I've already formatted and installed 6.1 RC2. Do you still want this? Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Mittelstaedt Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 10:18 PM To: Paul Schmehl; FreeBSD Questions Subject: RE: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized Paul, Please post the output of pciconf -lv Ted -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Paul Schmehl Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:53 AM To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Problem with Broadcomm NIC - not recognized I'm trying to set up a new laptop, and I have an odd problem. The laptop has a Broadcomm NetXtreme 57xx Gig Nic, and the install didn't recognize it. The GENERIC kernel has support for the NIC (bge and miibus), and I've done several installs on other hardware that detected the NIC just fine, but this one doesn't. There's nothing in dmesg, and ifconfig only shows lo0. How do I correct this problem? -- Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Adjunct Information Security Officer The University of Texas at Dallas http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/328 - Release Date: 5/1/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.5.1/328 - Release Date: 5/1/2006 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
