RE: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

2009-03-03 Thread Alex Kirk
What branch is this patch supposed to apply against? I've tried  
7.0-RELEASE and 7.1-RELEASE, and judging by the dates involved, it's  
somewhere in between the two.


Or should I be asking this on the freebsd-hackers list, where that  
patch was originally posted?


Alex


Alex,

This is known problem with FreeBSD and ICH7..ICH8..ICH9 chipsets.  
There is a patch for it:


http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(ICH7)-td16179257.html

I though didn't test the patch, and funny thing, I posted  earlier  
today asking if anyone had tried out that patch.


Hope this helps, keep me posted if you're able to bring it online.

Thanks,

Tamouh


-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Kirk
Sent: March 1, 2009 8:20 PM
To: Jamie
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

 Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while
 retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but
I'd really
 prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt.

 Thanks,
 Alex Kirk




I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what
 containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in
there the
 OS isn't going to be able to fix anything.


   - Jamie


Sorry, should have already gone over this.

The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are Create Array, Delete
Array, Reset Disk States, and Exit. It shows only the
one array,
but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just
concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state
table (or
whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed
up and the data will be unrecoverable.

Alex



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RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

2009-03-01 Thread Alex Kirk
First off, I realize that this may be more of a lower-level hardware  
question than is appropriate to ask here, but I'm at a real loss, and  
have no idea who else to ask...so I apologize in advance if I'm being  
a pest.


That said: I've got a FreeBSD 7.0/stable box that is used as the  
development server for a live system I administer. It recently crapped  
out on me (the dev box), and I realized that its power supply had  
kicked the bucket. After going out and replacing the power supply, it  
booted right back up, I ssh'd in, and when I ran my first userland  
command - w, FWIW - it froze up solid. I got one more SSH session in  
attempting to figure out WTF was going on before it wouldn't even log  
me in any more.


After a couple of hard reboots, I decided to attach a monitor to it to  
see what was going on. It turns out that the RAID5 array on the system  
had really lost its mind - all four devices that were part of the  
array were listed as being offline, which of course meant that the  
system could no longer boot (as it was booting off of the RAID). The  
controller is an integrated Intel Matrix DHC7R, built onto the  
motherboard.


I looked around the web a bit to try to figure out how to fix this,  
and ran across a couple of forum posts (which I can unfortunately no  
longer seem to find) suggesting that this particular controller was  
prone to an issue where hard power-downs would sometimes make the  
drives go offline, and that I needed to boot from CD to re-initialize  
them into their previous state. I tried first with an Ubuntu Linux CD  
I had handy - which promptly freaked out and dropped me into an  
emergency shell - and then the FreeBSD 7.0 boot-only disc. The latter  
was a bit more helpful, because I got this diagnostic:


ar0: WARNING - parity protection lost, RAID5 array in DEGRADED mode
ar0: 715418MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID5 (stripe 64KB) status: DEGRADED
ar0: disk0 READY using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY using ad8 at ata4-master
ar0: disk2 READY using ad6 at ata3-master
ar0: disk3 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
ar1: 715418MB Intel MatrixRAID RAID5 (stripe 64KB) status: BROKEN
ar1: disk0 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
ar1: disk1 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
ar1: disk2 DOWN no device found for this subdisk
ar1: disk3 READY using ad10 at ata5-master

Now I can see that my problem is that I've somehow got *two* RAID  
devices, both improperly configured, whereas I'd only had one before.


Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while retaining  
my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but I'd really prefer not  
to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt.


Thanks,
Alex Kirk



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Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

2009-03-01 Thread Jamie


Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while retaining my 
data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but I'd

really prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt.



Thanks,
Alex Kirk





   I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what 
containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in there the OS 
isn't going to be able to fix anything.



  - Jamie
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Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

2009-03-01 Thread Alex Kirk
Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while  
retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but I'd

really prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt.



Thanks,
Alex Kirk





   I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what  
containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in there  
the OS isn't going to be able to fix anything.



  - Jamie



Sorry, should have already gone over this.

The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are Create Array, Delete  
Array, Reset Disk States, and Exit. It shows only the one array,  
but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just  
concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state table (or  
whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed  
up and the data will be unrecoverable.


Alex



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RE: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

2009-03-01 Thread Alex Kirk
This is why I love open-source mailing lists - you never know what  
sort of awesome you'll find!


My question at this point, though, is how in the world I could  
actually apply this patch, seeing as how the system is in a  
non-bootable state. Is this something that's already been included in  
a development branch that I could go download? Or do I need to do  
something else?


Thanks,
Alex


Alex,

This is known problem with FreeBSD and ICH7..ICH8..ICH9 chipsets.  
There is a patch for it:


http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(ICH7)-td16179257.html

I though didn't test the patch, and funny thing, I posted  earlier  
today asking if anyone had tried out that patch.


Hope this helps, keep me posted if you're able to bring it online.

Thanks,

Tamouh


-Original Message-
From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org
[mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Kirk
Sent: March 1, 2009 8:20 PM
To: Jamie
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

 Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while
 retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but
I'd really
 prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt.

 Thanks,
 Alex Kirk




I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what
 containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in
there the
 OS isn't going to be able to fix anything.


   - Jamie


Sorry, should have already gone over this.

The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are Create Array, Delete
Array, Reset Disk States, and Exit. It shows only the
one array,
but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just
concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state
table (or
whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed
up and the data will be unrecoverable.

Alex



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RE: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

2009-03-01 Thread Tamouh Hakmi
Alex,

This is known problem with FreeBSD and ICH7..ICH8..ICH9 chipsets. There is a 
patch for it:

http://www.nabble.com/Vital-Patches-for-ataraid-with-Intel-Matrix-RAID-(ICH7)-td16179257.html

I though didn't test the patch, and funny thing, I posted  earlier today asking 
if anyone had tried out that patch.

Hope this helps, keep me posted if you're able to bring it online.

Thanks,

Tamouh 

 -Original Message-
 From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org 
 [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Alex Kirk
 Sent: March 1, 2009 8:20 PM
 To: Jamie
 Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two
 
  Does anyone have a clue how I can fix this, preferably while 
  retaining my data? I could wipe the box if necessary, but 
 I'd really 
  prefer not to, as that would be a huge pain in the butt.
 
  Thanks,
  Alex Kirk
 
 
 
 
 I would begin by going into the raid BIOS at bootup to see what 
  containers are now configured. If everything is hosed up in 
 there the 
  OS isn't going to be able to fix anything.
 
 
- Jamie
 
 
 Sorry, should have already gone over this.
 
 The RAID BIOS is terrible - my options are Create Array, Delete  
 Array, Reset Disk States, and Exit. It shows only the 
 one array,  
 but all four disks show as Offline Member in red there. I'm just  
 concerned that if I reset the array or delete it, the state 
 table (or  
 whatever other magic is involved in making RAID work) will get hosed  
 up and the data will be unrecoverable.
 
 Alex
 
 
 
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Re: RAID Gone Wild - One Array Split Into Two

2009-03-01 Thread Dimitar Vasilev
2009/3/2 Alex Kirk a...@schnarff.com:
 This is why I love open-source mailing lists - you never know what sort of
 awesome you'll find!

 My question at this point, though, is how in the world I could actually
 apply this patch, seeing as how the system is in a non-bootable state. Is
 this something that's already been included in a development branch that I
 could go download? Or do I need to do something else?

What I'd do is: make a distribution  with the patch included in the
source tree on another machine with your current KERNCONF, etc if you
have backups of them.
Then try reinstalling the machine and if backups are on your side all
should be OK.
I don't follow -current and -hackers much to advise if it has been
fixed upstream. If you have another machine where you can check-out
current tree and see if patch has
been merged there - good.
Regards,
Dimitar
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