Re: Boot and MBR.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 20:21:25 -0900, Mark Weisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried setting the MBR within fdisk from the FBSD side of the house, however, it won't set. I go through all the motions, yet when it goes to write it says that it can't write to drsk ad0. I then went into a dos boot using a Windows98 boot disk and made the partition active, it still will not boot into the Windows partition. For the life of me, I cannot think of how to fix this. I need some help, any ideas? This is only a single hard drive with both XP and FreeBSD, I'm assuming. You can try three things: 1. Reinstall the FreeBSD bootloader and write the change; or 2. Boot from the Win floppy and type 'fdisk /mbr' (no quotes), or boot from the XP CD, go into the repair console and type 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr'; then reboot into FreeBSD and reinstall the FreeBSD bootloader; or 3. Do step 2, then boot into FreeBSD from the CD, go into post-install configuration, choose to install a normal MBR (not the FreeBSD bootloader), write the change, then install GAG (URL in previous message). There are other options as well, but these should be enough to burden you with for now. :) Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot and MBR.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 01:11:28PM -0900, Mark Weisman wrote:
The second question I have, is can I put the command startx into my
rc.conf file to have it boot directly into the x-server? Any help on
these two would be awesome. Thanks.
Other people have described how you can arrange for startx to be run
automatically whenever anyone logs into your system console -- however
I'm guessing that isn't exactly what you mean.
If you want to set up a system with a graphical login screen, check
out xdm(1) --- you can enable that by editing the file /etc/ttys and
changing the line:
ttyv8 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm off secure
to:
ttyv8 /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm -nodaemon xterm on secure
xdm(8) is the 'X Display Manager' -- the default look is not amazingly
pretty, but you can customise it a bit to make it look nicer:
investigate the files in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm.
Note that is you use xdm(8), when you log in the ${HOME}/.xsession
script will be run to populate your desktop and start up a window
manager, rather than the ${HOME}/.xinitrc script that's run by startx.
The two scripts have very similar effects, and you can probably get
away with copying one to the other initially.
If you're a Gnome user, there's a workalike program gdm(8) you might
want to use instead, and I believe the KDE stuff comes with (surprise,
surprise) kdm(8). Their documentation should tell you exactly what
you need to put into /etc/ttys in order to substitute them for xdm(8).
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: Boot and MBR.
You can also Grub it up: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ http://www.daemonnews.org/200102/grub.html Grub is a popular and well-supported OSS boot loader HTH, Chris Jud wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:18:01 -0900, Mark Weisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity what is the order in creating a dual boot system? Which operating system do you put on first? I see that having WinXP setup in partitions is not a good idea, yet I'm not aware of how to load the system in just a slice? I would appreciate any and all help in trying to get this thing online. I need my workstation back as soon as possible. Thanks. [snip] I've got my primary drive divided in two partitions, one partition had WindowsXP and the other has FreeBSD 5.1-Release on it. I had WindowsXP installed and working until I put FreeBSD on the second partition and had it take control of the MBR. I know that the other partition is still bootable if I can get a pointer to it, currently the boot menu shows it as: F!: ?? F2: FreeBSD How can I get that first menu choice to look at the installation on the first partition as bootable? Making the machine a dual boot between the two system? First off, don't worry about slice vs partition - Jerry was just telling you those are the names used by FreeBSD and Windows, respectively, for the same thing. Second, how to get your dual boot going - 1. I think if you do what you've already done in FreeBSD (set the Windows slice/partition bootable) and then type w to write the change, that should work. If it doesn't, two other alternatives - 2. If you have a Win9x emergency boot/system floppy hanging around, use fdisk to set the Windows partition/slice active, then reboot; or 3. Install GAG, a free, easy and automagical boot loader. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/. Hope this helps, Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Christopher Hollow - Consultant Infrastructure Technology Support Toronto, ON ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot and MBR.
Just out of curiosity what is the order in creating a dual boot system? Which operating system do you put on first? I see that having WinXP setup in partitions is not a good idea, yet I'm not aware of how to load the system in just a slice? I would appreciate any and all help in trying to get this thing online. I need my workstation back as soon as possible. Thanks. I am not sure which thing you are referring to when you use the word 'order' but... Install whatever MS-Win system you want to have first and make sure it boots OK. Then, use one or another utility to shrink the MS slice and make room for another - you can have up to 4 primary slices. FIPS works fine if the MS slice (called partition in MS land) is a FAT, but if it is NTFS you will need some more sophisticated utility like Partition Magic (which is not free - about $69 in Best Buy type stores) I have heard there is a newer free one now available that can handle NTFS and MS extended slices (partitions in MS speak) but I don't remember the name. Partition Magic will create a slice (which they call partition since they are mostly MS oriented) and mark it as a FAT32 - or something else if you tell it too. Then install FreeBSD. Presuming you use the CD sysinstall method, when you get to the partitioning stage it shows you the primary slices on the disk and what they currently have in them. Put the cursor on the new FAT slice that was created when you resized stuff with PM or FIPS and 'D' delete it. Then hit 'C' create and it will make that a FreeBSD slice. Then hit 'S' make it bootable (which, non-intuitively will put an 'A' in the Flags column to indicate it should be bootable. I have also, sometimes, moved the cursor up and marked the slice with the MS system in it as bootable (hit 'S' on it) but sometimes not bothered and it hasn't seemed to make a difference as long as the MS system booted OK before I got started. As soon as you get this done and hit 'Q' to save and go on, you will be presented with a screen that has three choices. BootMgrInstall the FreeBSD Boot Manager Standard Install a standard MBR (no boot manager) None Leave the Master Boot Record Untouched On this screen you want to choose the first one: BootMgr Then use the tab to make sure OK is selected and go on to the next stuff. After this you will be put in to a screen to divide up the FreeBSD slice in to partitions. Do this as needed for your installation From here on out you are past the boot stuff. You will choose what you want installed - if you have room, just grab it all, and where you want to install from - FTP or CD, etc Finish up the install and network configuration. When you boot, you will be presented with a menu something like: F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD or maybe F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD or I have on one machine F1 ?? F2 DOS F3 FreeBSD because it is a Dell machine and has a bootable Dell Slice with their maintenance stuff on it. You get a menu listing for every slice that is marked bootable regardless of what it is. It labels all MS FAT slices as 'DOS' regardless of which MS system is on it.. You get the ?? if the Boot Manager finds it bootable, but doesn't know sort of system it is - such as for NTFS. It doesn't have to know what kind of system it is to boot it so the ?? doesn't matter. It is just a cosmetic annoyance. IF it is too much for your stomach to take, then you can get a fancier Boot Manager such as GAG or GRUB and install it and you can configure those with whatever labels you want to use. Those can be installed later after the system is fully installed and you have some time to play. The basic FreeBSD boot manager is small to fit in the official one sector space that is available. The fancier boot managers generally use some additional space that, by convention is never otherwise used, but is not officially available for it. I kind of with they (whoever does this sort of official definition) would just officially redefine the standard so the whole unused cylinder was official boot mangler space. jerry Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net -Original Message- From: Mark Weisman Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:59 PM To: Jerry McAllister Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boot and MBR. You are right, I have them setup originally under WinXP as partitions, then added FreeBSD to the second partition where it calls it a slice. Divided up the slice into the required folders. I have tested, and it is not cosmetic, in that when I select that menu item, the computer goes to the next row and stays indefinitely. I can put WinXP back on the computer if I have to, however, wouldn't that put the WinXP MBR on the box? I've gone in under fdisk and set the slice bootable, however nothing. I'm not sure how to install it now to just that slice. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Res Ipsa Loquitor
Re: Boot and MBR (Gnome)
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2004 at 01:11:28PM -0900, Mark Weisman wrote: The second question I have, is can I put the command startx into my rc.conf file to have it boot directly into the x-server? Any help on these two would be awesome. Thanks. snip If you're a Gnome user, there's a workalike program gdm(8) you might want to use instead, and I believe the KDE stuff comes with (surprise, surprise) kdm(8). Their documentation should tell you exactly what you need to put into /etc/ttys in order to substitute them for xdm(8). Cheers, Matthew I did this just last night; this seems to do it (and I was a bad boy, just hacked it w/o looking at the docs) [EMAIL PROTECTED] [/home/kadmin][10:26] #cat /etc/ttys | grep gdm ttyv0 /usr/X11R6/bin/gdmcons25 on secure Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot and MBR.
I've installed GAG, and that is a really easy setup! It identified all the partitions, and what was in them, stepped me through the process of copying the manager to the disk and everything, kudos for the recommendation! When I select to boot to the WindowsXP partition, it come to a black screen with red squares in a diagonal line across the screen, not sure but it doesn't look good. Have to hit reset on the box to get out, the three finger salute doesn't work. I see the cursor blinking in the upper left corner, yet no operating system. Any ideas? Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 7:24 AM To: Mark Weisman Cc: Jerry McAllister; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boot and MBR. Just out of curiosity what is the order in creating a dual boot system? Which operating system do you put on first? I see that having WinXP setup in partitions is not a good idea, yet I'm not aware of how to load the system in just a slice? I would appreciate any and all help in trying to get this thing online. I need my workstation back as soon as possible. Thanks. I am not sure which thing you are referring to when you use the word 'order' but... Install whatever MS-Win system you want to have first and make sure it boots OK. Then, use one or another utility to shrink the MS slice and make room for another - you can have up to 4 primary slices. FIPS works fine if the MS slice (called partition in MS land) is a FAT, but if it is NTFS you will need some more sophisticated utility like Partition Magic (which is not free - about $69 in Best Buy type stores) I have heard there is a newer free one now available that can handle NTFS and MS extended slices (partitions in MS speak) but I don't remember the name. Partition Magic will create a slice (which they call partition since they are mostly MS oriented) and mark it as a FAT32 - or something else if you tell it too. Then install FreeBSD. Presuming you use the CD sysinstall method, when you get to the partitioning stage it shows you the primary slices on the disk and what they currently have in them. Put the cursor on the new FAT slice that was created when you resized stuff with PM or FIPS and 'D' delete it. Then hit 'C' create and it will make that a FreeBSD slice. Then hit 'S' make it bootable (which, non-intuitively will put an 'A' in the Flags column to indicate it should be bootable. I have also, sometimes, moved the cursor up and marked the slice with the MS system in it as bootable (hit 'S' on it) but sometimes not bothered and it hasn't seemed to make a difference as long as the MS system booted OK before I got started. As soon as you get this done and hit 'Q' to save and go on, you will be presented with a screen that has three choices. BootMgrInstall the FreeBSD Boot Manager Standard Install a standard MBR (no boot manager) None Leave the Master Boot Record Untouched On this screen you want to choose the first one: BootMgr Then use the tab to make sure OK is selected and go on to the next stuff. After this you will be put in to a screen to divide up the FreeBSD slice in to partitions. Do this as needed for your installation From here on out you are past the boot stuff. You will choose what you want installed - if you have room, just grab it all, and where you want to install from - FTP or CD, etc Finish up the install and network configuration. When you boot, you will be presented with a menu something like: F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD or maybe F1 ?? F2 FreeBSD or I have on one machine F1 ?? F2 DOS F3 FreeBSD because it is a Dell machine and has a bootable Dell Slice with their maintenance stuff on it. You get a menu listing for every slice that is marked bootable regardless of what it is. It labels all MS FAT slices as 'DOS' regardless of which MS system is on it.. You get the ?? if the Boot Manager finds it bootable, but doesn't know sort of system it is - such as for NTFS. It doesn't have to know what kind of system it is to boot it so the ?? doesn't matter. It is just a cosmetic annoyance. IF it is too much for your stomach to take, then you can get a fancier Boot Manager such as GAG or GRUB and install it and you can configure those with whatever labels you want to use. Those can be installed later after the system is fully installed and you have some time to play. The basic FreeBSD boot manager is small to fit in the official one sector space that is available. The fancier boot managers generally use some additional space that, by convention is never otherwise used, but is not officially available for it. I kind of with they (whoever does this sort of official definition) would just officially redefine the standard so the whole unused cylinder was official boot mangler space. jerry Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel
Re: Boot and MBR.
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:50:03 -0500, HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jud wrote: [snip] 3. Install GAG, a free, easy and automagical boot loader. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/. You can also Grub it up: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ http://www.daemonnews.org/200102/grub.html Grub is a popular and well-supported OSS boot loader Absolutely. I've happily used Grub, but turned to GAG when I went to RAID-0. Grub is an excellent bootloader and learning tool. The only reason I didn't include it in my recommendations to the OP was that I figured he'd be happier at this point with something very easy and automagic. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot and MBR.
I appreciate the ease of installation of Gag, however, my objectives still not being met, when I boot into the Windows partition, I get an error that shows little red squares in a diagonal pattern across the screen. No Windows? Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net -Original Message- From: Jud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:46 AM To: HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER; Mark Weisman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boot and MBR. On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:50:03 -0500, HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jud wrote: [snip] 3. Install GAG, a free, easy and automagical boot loader. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/. You can also Grub it up: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ http://www.daemonnews.org/200102/grub.html Grub is a popular and well-supported OSS boot loader Absolutely. I've happily used Grub, but turned to GAG when I went to RAID-0. Grub is an excellent bootloader and learning tool. The only reason I didn't include it in my recommendations to the OP was that I figured he'd be happier at this point with something very easy and automagic. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot and MBR.
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:06:43 -0900, Mark Weisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I've installed GAG, and that is a really easy setup! It identified all the partitions, and what was in them, stepped me through the process of copying the manager to the disk and everything, kudos for the recommendation! When I select to boot to the WindowsXP partition, it come to a black screen with red squares in a diagonal line across the screen, not sure but it doesn't look good. Have to hit reset on the box to get out, the three finger salute doesn't work. I see the cursor blinking in the upper left corner, yet no operating system. Any ideas? First, post. top don't Please Makes things harder to read in sequence. :) Second, you need to fix your WinXP installation. Boot from the WinXP CD and select to repair your installation. Try the automatic repair first. If that doesn't work, select the repair console and use the 'fixboot' and 'fixmbr' commands. If those don't work, boot from a Win9x emergency/system floppy and use fdisk's 'fdisk /mbr' command. Then reinstall the FreeBSD MBR. If you want to continue to use GAG, select the 'normal' MBR for FreeBSD rather than the FreeBSD bootloader. Finally, you will have to redo your GAG configuration, or if your system doesn't boot into GAG, reinstall it. Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot and MBR. Thank YOU!
Sorry for being such a pest, my boss kept asking why my computer wasn't working, and I'm not ready to ready for him to know I've got BSD loaded. I was in panic mode because I couldn't get my Windows XP screens and applications to come up. I deeply apologize, I was finally able to read all of your message Jerry and it worked they way you said it would. All is well, I'm on my way to prove that I can get twice the stuff I need through the open source community than we can buy through Microsoft. Thanks for all the posts and help. You guys rock! Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot and MBR.
Mark, You might want to try booting the box with a Win98 Rescuse disk and running 'fdisk /mbr'. This -should- re-window-ize the MBR. Then run fdisk from the prompt and set the Windows partition as active. Reboot and see if Windows boots normally. You will not see any indication of the existance of the BSD installation at this point. Should Windows come up okay, install Grub (or GAG if it suits your fancy) and you -should- be off and running. DISCLAIMER: The ^^^ -should- ^^^ is in there because I'm not entirely familiar with your environment and configuration. As always, when working with partitions, it is possible that you will lose one, both or all of the slices and installations on the box. If there is anything worth keeping, ensure you have it backed up... HTH, Chris Mark Weisman wrote: I appreciate the ease of installation of Gag, however, my objectives still not being met, when I boot into the Windows partition, I get an error that shows little red squares in a diagonal pattern across the screen. No Windows? Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net -Original Message- From: Jud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 8:46 AM To: HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER; Mark Weisman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boot and MBR. On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:50:03 -0500, HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Jud wrote: [snip] 3. Install GAG, a free, easy and automagical boot loader. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/. You can also Grub it up: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ http://www.daemonnews.org/200102/grub.html Grub is a popular and well-supported OSS boot loader Absolutely. I've happily used Grub, but turned to GAG when I went to RAID-0. Grub is an excellent bootloader and learning tool. The only reason I didn't include it in my recommendations to the OP was that I figured he'd be happier at this point with something very easy and automagic. Jud -- Christopher Hollow - Consultant Infrastructure Technology Support Toronto, ON ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot and MBR. Thank YOU!
Sorry for being such a pest, my boss kept asking why my computer wasn't working, and I'm not ready to ready for him to know I've got BSD loaded. I was in panic mode because I couldn't get my Windows XP screens and applications to come up. I deeply apologize, I was finally able to read all of your message Jerry and it worked they way you said it would. All is well, I'm on my way to prove that I can get twice the stuff I need through the open source community than we can buy through Microsoft. Thanks for all the posts and help. You guys rock! Glad it is working. You can experiment later with prettier Boot Manglers, etc, but up and actually running always seems to me to be the first step. jerry Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot and MBR.
I've got my primary drive divided in two partitions, one partition had WindowsXP and the other has FreeBSD 5.1-Release on it. I had WindowsXP installed and working until I put FreeBSD on the second partition and had it take control of the MBR. I know that the other partition is still bootable if I can get a pointer to it, currently the boot menu shows it as: F!: ?? F2: FreeBSD How can I get that first menu choice to look at the installation on the first partition as bootable? Making the machine a dual boot between the two system? The fact that it displays ?? is only a cosmetic problem. Have you tried selecting F1 to see if it will boot the XP slice? Mine does. Also, a side issue, in FreeBSD land, what you have is a disk with tw0 'slices' as apposed to partitions. Probably you have your FreeBSD slice divided up in to several 'partitions'. MS calls the primary divisions of a disk partitions, but in BSD UNIX land they are called slices. The second question I have, is can I put the command startx into my rc.conf file to have it boot directly into the x-server? Any help on these two would be awesome. Thanks. I have not been successfule with that sort of thing. Anyway, I don't think just putting it in rc.conf would do the trick because that just sets a bunch of variables in there. Then the stuff is actually run from rc (and some other places I think) using those variable values set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.. I think you might not want your startx to fire off until after you log in anyway.That would mean putting it in .login (if you have a csh or tcsh shell) and that is what didn't work for me, though I didn't try many variations. But, someone else better weigh in on this. jerry Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot and MBR.
You are right, I have them setup originally under WinXP as partitions, then added FreeBSD to the second partition where it calls it a slice. Divided up the slice into the required folders. I have tested, and it is not cosmetic, in that when I select that menu item, the computer goes to the next row and stays indefinitely. I can put WinXP back on the computer if I have to, however, wouldn't that put the WinXP MBR on the box? I've gone in under fdisk and set the slice bootable, however nothing. I'm not sure how to install it now to just that slice. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:27 PM To: Mark Weisman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boot and MBR. I've got my primary drive divided in two partitions, one partition had WindowsXP and the other has FreeBSD 5.1-Release on it. I had WindowsXP installed and working until I put FreeBSD on the second partition and had it take control of the MBR. I know that the other partition is still bootable if I can get a pointer to it, currently the boot menu shows it as: F!: ?? F2: FreeBSD How can I get that first menu choice to look at the installation on the first partition as bootable? Making the machine a dual boot between the two system? The fact that it displays ?? is only a cosmetic problem. Have you tried selecting F1 to see if it will boot the XP slice? Mine does. Also, a side issue, in FreeBSD land, what you have is a disk with tw0 'slices' as apposed to partitions. Probably you have your FreeBSD slice divided up in to several 'partitions'. MS calls the primary divisions of a disk partitions, but in BSD UNIX land they are called slices. The second question I have, is can I put the command startx into my rc.conf file to have it boot directly into the x-server? Any help on these two would be awesome. Thanks. I have not been successfule with that sort of thing. Anyway, I don't think just putting it in rc.conf would do the trick because that just sets a bunch of variables in there. Then the stuff is actually run from rc (and some other places I think) using those variable values set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.. I think you might not want your startx to fire off until after you log in anyway.That would mean putting it in .login (if you have a csh or tcsh shell) and that is what didn't work for me, though I didn't try many variations. But, someone else better weigh in on this. jerry Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot and MBR.
The second question I have, is can I put the command startx into my rc.conf file to have it boot directly into the x-server? Any help on these two would be awesome. Thanks. I have not been successfule with that sort of thing. Anyway, I don't think just putting it in rc.conf would do the trick because that just sets a bunch of variables in there. Then the stuff is actually run from rc (and some other places I think) using those variable values set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.. I think you might not want your startx to fire off until after you log in anyway.That would mean putting it in .login (if you have a csh or tcsh shell) and that is what didn't work for me, though I didn't try many variations. If you're running the Bash shell, putting startx into file ~/.bash_profile will have the desired effect. Under FBSD, by default there is no .bash_profile file, so just create one for each individual user who wants to start up in X. regards, Robert ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Boot and MBR.
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:18:01 -0900, Mark Weisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity what is the order in creating a dual boot system? Which operating system do you put on first? I see that having WinXP setup in partitions is not a good idea, yet I'm not aware of how to load the system in just a slice? I would appreciate any and all help in trying to get this thing online. I need my workstation back as soon as possible. Thanks. [snip] I've got my primary drive divided in two partitions, one partition had WindowsXP and the other has FreeBSD 5.1-Release on it. I had WindowsXP installed and working until I put FreeBSD on the second partition and had it take control of the MBR. I know that the other partition is still bootable if I can get a pointer to it, currently the boot menu shows it as: F!: ?? F2: FreeBSD How can I get that first menu choice to look at the installation on the first partition as bootable? Making the machine a dual boot between the two system? First off, don't worry about slice vs partition - Jerry was just telling you those are the names used by FreeBSD and Windows, respectively, for the same thing. Second, how to get your dual boot going - 1. I think if you do what you've already done in FreeBSD (set the Windows slice/partition bootable) and then type w to write the change, that should work. If it doesn't, two other alternatives - 2. If you have a Win9x emergency boot/system floppy hanging around, use fdisk to set the Windows partition/slice active, then reboot; or 3. Install GAG, a free, easy and automagical boot loader. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/. Hope this helps, Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot and MBR.
Hey all, I've tried setting the MBR within fdisk from the FBSD side of the house, however, it won't set. I go through all the motions, yet when it goes to write it says that it can't write to drsk ad0. I then went into a dos boot using a Windows98 boot disk and made the partition active, it still will not boot into the Windows partition. For the life of me, I cannot think of how to fix this. I need some help, any ideas? Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic_One Internet Gaming Servers Anchorage, AK http://games.mystic1.net -- From: Jud Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 5:49 PM To: Mark Weisman; Jerry McAllister Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boot and MBR. On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:18:01 -0900, Mark Weisman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just out of curiosity what is the order in creating a dual boot system? Which operating system do you put on first? I see that having WinXP setup in partitions is not a good idea, yet I'm not aware of how to load the system in just a slice? I would appreciate any and all help in trying to get this thing online. I need my workstation back as soon as possible. Thanks. [snip] I've got my primary drive divided in two partitions, one partition had WindowsXP and the other has FreeBSD 5.1-Release on it. I had WindowsXP installed and working until I put FreeBSD on the second partition and had it take control of the MBR. I know that the other partition is still bootable if I can get a pointer to it, currently the boot menu shows it as: F!: ?? F2: FreeBSD How can I get that first menu choice to look at the installation on the first partition as bootable? Making the machine a dual boot between the two system? First off, don't worry about slice vs partition - Jerry was just telling you those are the names used by FreeBSD and Windows, respectively, for the same thing. Second, how to get your dual boot going - 1. I think if you do what you've already done in FreeBSD (set the Windows slice/partition bootable) and then type w to write the change, that should work. If it doesn't, two other alternatives - 2. If you have a Win9x emergency boot/system floppy hanging around, use fdisk to set the Windows partition/slice active, then reboot; or 3. Install GAG, a free, easy and automagical boot loader. URL: http://gag.sourceforge.net/. Hope this helps, Jud ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Boot and MBR.
Just out of curiosity what is the order in creating a dual boot system? Which operating system do you put on first? I see that having WinXP setup in partitions is not a good idea, yet I'm not aware of how to load the system in just a slice? I would appreciate any and all help in trying to get this thing online. I need my workstation back as soon as possible. Thanks. Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net -Original Message- From: Mark Weisman Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 4:59 PM To: Jerry McAllister Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Boot and MBR. You are right, I have them setup originally under WinXP as partitions, then added FreeBSD to the second partition where it calls it a slice. Divided up the slice into the required folders. I have tested, and it is not cosmetic, in that when I select that menu item, the computer goes to the next row and stays indefinitely. I can put WinXP back on the computer if I have to, however, wouldn't that put the WinXP MBR on the box? I've gone in under fdisk and set the slice bootable, however nothing. I'm not sure how to install it now to just that slice. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net -Original Message- From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 1:27 PM To: Mark Weisman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Boot and MBR. I've got my primary drive divided in two partitions, one partition had WindowsXP and the other has FreeBSD 5.1-Release on it. I had WindowsXP installed and working until I put FreeBSD on the second partition and had it take control of the MBR. I know that the other partition is still bootable if I can get a pointer to it, currently the boot menu shows it as: F!: ?? F2: FreeBSD How can I get that first menu choice to look at the installation on the first partition as bootable? Making the machine a dual boot between the two system? The fact that it displays ?? is only a cosmetic problem. Have you tried selecting F1 to see if it will boot the XP slice? Mine does. Also, a side issue, in FreeBSD land, what you have is a disk with tw0 'slices' as apposed to partitions. Probably you have your FreeBSD slice divided up in to several 'partitions'. MS calls the primary divisions of a disk partitions, but in BSD UNIX land they are called slices. The second question I have, is can I put the command startx into my rc.conf file to have it boot directly into the x-server? Any help on these two would be awesome. Thanks. I have not been successfule with that sort of thing. Anyway, I don't think just putting it in rc.conf would do the trick because that just sets a bunch of variables in there. Then the stuff is actually run from rc (and some other places I think) using those variable values set in /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf.. I think you might not want your startx to fire off until after you log in anyway.That would mean putting it in .login (if you have a csh or tcsh shell) and that is what didn't work for me, though I didn't try many variations. But, someone else better weigh in on this. jerry Res Ipsa Loquitor, Mark-Nathaniel Weisman Site Master Mystic1.net ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
