Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs? Hi, So the firmware versions are as follows; Intel RS25GB008 which is a rebadged LSI 9207-8e which uses the LSI 2308 controller; Intel firmware13.00.66.00-IT LSI 9206-16e which uses the LSI 2308 controller as well; LSI firmware 17.00.01.00-IT Should I specifically set any of the card settings like hook int or bypass int hook... etc...? - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs? Upon doing this; sysctl -a | grep mps I get this; dev.mps.0.driver_version: 14.00.00.01-fbsd LSIs site mentions the latest drives at being 17.00.00.00 I'll go ahead and install the latest to see what happens. Whats the best way to do this, I assume build it and load via loader.conf? - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS
On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs? Well, the 2 LSI 9207s are rebadge Intel being Intel RS25GB008 ( http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/servers/raid/raid-controller-rs25gb008.html ) with the latest Intel firmware. The lone 9206-16e has the latest LSI firmware. Shall I downgrade to a particular version? I would love to resolve this performance oddity. Thanks for getting back to me, I know its a weird one with an annoying subject as its apples and oranges. I would be happy to get you exact info of anything I have, so feel free. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD, Centos and ZFS
On Oct 12, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Mark Felder wrote: On Sat, Oct 12, 2013, at 10:53, aurfalien wrote: Hi, I would like to first say that by no means is this a hey, why is my Mac faster then my PC kind of email. I'm really hoping its an LSI driver issue. It may very well be an LSI firmware issue. What are the firmwares for those HBAs? I'll get you the exact firmware revs on Monday. I can look on there site but would rather boot and record the exact numbers from there. - aurf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013, at 8:36, Eduardo Morras wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Mike Brown m...@skew.org wrote: alexus wrote: ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a new kernel. That there's no kernel changes doesn't mean that uname -a info is not updated. You are incorrect. The output of uname -a is taken from the kernel and cannot be updated without installing a new kernel. The good news is that FreeBSD 10 will ship with a new utility called freebsd-version which will provide a better way of identifying if your system is up to date. From the commit message: Introduce the /libexec/freebsd-version script, which is intended to be used by auditing tools to determine the userland patch level when it differs from what `uname -r` reports. This can happen when the system is kept up-to-date using freebsd-update and the last SA did not touch the kernel, or when a new kernel has been installed but the system has not yet rebooted. http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/bin/freebsd-version/ By the way, it will be /bin/freebsd-version as it has been relocated since the import into head. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 22:32, Mike Brown wrote: alexus wrote: ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a new kernel. If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 If he had sources on the box he probably would have just compiled the fixes himself. The version number shouldn't be embedded in the kernel like that so it's easier for people to audit their systems. I have VMs right now in Xen that report different FreeBSD versions and it's confusing for other sysadmins who aren't intimately familiar with FreeBSD. Some were updated by freebsd-update, some were updated by src. But they don't report the same OS version so I get asked why we haven't updated those servers yet ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Mike Brown m...@skew.org wrote: alexus wrote: ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a new kernel. That there's no kernel changes doesn't mean that uname -a info is not updated. If you update the system from p5 to current (p12), and it shows p9 instead p12 the first thing you think is that something on the system update went wrong, not that everything was fine except the update of the file that uname -a reads. If release info patch is p12, it must update the whole system to p12. If you update an app from 2.24.1 to 2.24.2 and doing 'app -v' shows 2.24.1 it means something went wrong, not that update only modified config files and not the binary. If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 No, uname -a should give the correct answer. Has uname other utility than show information about the operating system implementation? No, and it must be accurate. --- --- Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
Mike Brown: $ grep ^BRANCH /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh BRANCH=RELEASE-p12 $ then again, I used freebsd-update and not /usr/src, but it makes sense what you said with kernel, so I guess I _AM_ on the latest -p12 and kernel is on -p9 as there was no changes after that to kernel. thank you. On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Mike Brown m...@skew.org wrote: alexus wrote: ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a new kernel. If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 -- http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
Eduardo Morras wrote: [...] uname -a should give the correct answer. Has uname other utility than show information about the operating system implementation? No, and it must be accurate. That's what I thought, but when I asked about it here last year, I was told that this is the way things are; our expectations of uname are at fault. I believe if he were to compile his own kernel, it would say -p12. Suggestions were made for how to deal with it, but I don't know if they were ever followed up on. They wouldn't affect 7.x in any case. Start reading the thread here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-May/240666.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
alexus wrote: ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? -p10 through -p12 probably didn't involve any kernel changes. Bumping the reported patchlevel isn't considered important enough to warrant building a new kernel. If your sources are in /usr/src, do this: grep -v # /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh | head -4 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:22:17 -0400 alexus ale...@gmail.com wrote: bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Is there a way to upgrade 7.4-RELEASE-p5 to 7.4-RELEASE-p12 using freebsd-update now? What about: # freebsd-update fetch # freebsd-update install http://www.freebsd.org/security/ Andreas -- Andreas Rudisch a...@sectorbyte.de ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 14:22, alexus wrote: bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Just freebsd-update fetch freebsd-update install is all you should have to run. The -r flag is for jumping major releases (from 7.x to 8.x, for example). I can't comment on whether or not the freebsd-update data for 7.x is still on the servers, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? (I'm running fetch again, hoping it will do that) On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Mark Felder f...@freebsd.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 14:22, alexus wrote: bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Just freebsd-update fetch freebsd-update install is all you should have to run. The -r flag is for jumping major releases (from 7.x to 8.x, for example). I can't comment on whether or not the freebsd-update data for 7.x is still on the servers, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12
it didn't help.. # freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 7.4-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. Preparing to download files... done. The following files are affected by updates, but no changes have been downloaded because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/mergemaster.mtree No updates needed to update system to 7.4-RELEASE-p12. WARNING: FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE. Any security issues discovered after Fri Mar 1 00:00:00 UTC 2013 will not have been corrected. # freebsd-update install No updates are available to install. Run '/usr/sbin/freebsd-update fetch' first. # On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:13 PM, alexus ale...@gmail.com wrote: ok, I just did fetch install and got bumped from p5 to p9 # uname -a FreeBSD XX.X.org 7.4-RELEASE-p9 FreeBSD 7.4-RELEASE-p9 #0: Mon Jun 11 19:47:58 UTC 2012 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 # can I take it all the way to -p12? (I'm running fetch again, hoping it will do that) On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Mark Felder f...@freebsd.org wrote: On Mon, Oct 7, 2013, at 14:22, alexus wrote: bash-4.2# freebsd-update upgrade -r 7.4-RELEASE-p12 Just freebsd-update fetch freebsd-update install is all you should have to run. The -r flag is for jumping major releases (from 7.x to 8.x, for example). I can't comment on whether or not the freebsd-update data for 7.x is still on the servers, though. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- http://alexus.org/ -- http://alexus.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD routing problem
From: hrkesh sahu hrisikeshs...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2013 19:09:02 +0530 To: Julian H. Stacey j...@berklix.com Cc: Polytropon free...@edvax.de, FreeBSD questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Hi, No idea why it was To: me. Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I dislike MS windows quoted-printable, Content-Type: application/msword; name=1.5.VendorD.Topology.doc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=1.5.VendorD.Topology.doc MS excrement not accepted. http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/std/no_ms_format.txt Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 14:01, Brett Glass wrote: How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The improvements are welcome, but there have been a few troubling messages about kernel panics and VM issues on the various mailing lists. It's never clear until the release drops whether these are actual problems with the software or hardware defects in individual systems, so I am eager to hear how the new release is working for everyone. I upgraded our two main backup servers which are doing I/O via rsync/rsnapshot and sending ZFS snapshots to the other remote site every 15 minutes. I had several instances where the machines went unresponsive. They didn't panic, and they did respond to CTRL+ALT+DEL on the console, but they lost all networking and wouldn't do anything else. The only change was I enabled zfs prefetch which I previously had disabled for performance reasons. It never caused this issue on 9.1 when I had it enabled, though. The fix definitely was turning off prefetch again which doesn't bother me too much, but I can't use this environment to try to help debug it as it's important production data. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Mark Felder f...@freebsd.org wrote: On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 14:01, Brett Glass wrote: How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? For me freebsd-update from 9.1 to 9.2 went smooth on my workstation laptop, the userland works fine :-) I remember myself Nakatomi BSD 9.2 on the movie (in the reception hall scene), I was su suprised back then to see BSD in this kind of movie :-) Best regards :-) Tomek -- CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?
On Mon, Sep 30, 2013, at 14:01, Brett Glass wrote: How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The improvements are welcome, but there have been a few troubling messages about kernel panics and VM issues on the various mailing lists. It's never clear until the release drops whether these are actual problems with the software or hardware defects in individual systems, so I am eager to hear how the new release is working for everyone. very frustrated at the moment... I've had some very strange issues crop up since upgrading from 9.1-RELEASE to 9.2-RELEASE. I'm using FreeBSD on a Xen HVM instance. My previous install was a system with a custom kernel (includes Xen HVM options) (entire base and kernel compiled with Clang 3.1 (base clang)). The system worked flawlessly. A rinse and repeat upgrade (build from source) with 9.2 is giving me some very strange issues: * Randomly when I start the VM, there is no network connectivity. I first noticed DHCP was timing out. The link appeared to be up on the xn0 interface but no data flow at all. Attempted manual interface configuration. Zilch, couldn't even get a response from the default gateway when pinging (both ipv4 and ipv6). A reboot of the machine and suddenly network connectivity is restored. Subsequently with no predictability, another reboot = no network again. No errors in dmesg or /var/log/messages. * /usr/ports/net/net-im/jabber (which appears not to have changed versions between my system upgrade) randomly aborts with signal 10 (bus error). * Programs that rely on mysql (installed percona 5.5 server) (such as jabber, powerdns etc) spew a bunch of errors saying they are unable to connect to the mysql server via /tmp/mysql.sock, after I log in and look, mysql is running just fine, and the programs that were complaining about mysql being unreachable are all operating correctly... (i have mysql set to start in /etc/rc.d before any of the programs that require it are started) -- never saw these issues in 9.1 * I run powerdns recursor for resolution of domain names. Despite having the recursor as being one of the first things in rc.conf to start (certainly before ntpdate), ntpdate decides to run before the recursor has started. This causes the lookup of the ntp server hostname to fail (using -b ip.ip.ip.ip as a flag to ntpdate rather than a host is a way to work around the issue). This was a clean build. I cleared up old libraries and rebuilt all my installed ports from scratch, I left no kruft lingering on the system to the best of my knowledge. Normally I would put something like the jabber server issue just being bad code that clang is happy to compile.. But the random network issue has the alarm bells ringing. Perhaps there is an issue with clang 3.3 generating faulty code? I havent had any kernel panics or machine freezes. This has to be a first for me with freebsd, I almost never ever have an issue after upgrading from RELEASE to RELEASE. I can probably rebuild it all again with the base gcc compiler, but clang is much much faster than the dinosaur gcc included in base and produces better code. Up in the air with this one. I might go back to 9.1, had none of these issues with it. /my 10 cents worth. BR, Alex. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013, at 18:54, ot...@ahhyes.net wrote: * I run powerdns recursor for resolution of domain names. Despite having the recursor as being one of the first things in rc.conf to start (certainly before ntpdate), ntpdate decides to run before the recursor has started. This causes the lookup of the ntp server hostname to fail (using -b ip.ip.ip.ip as a flag to ntpdate rather than a host is a way to work around the issue). Create in rc script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d that does nothing but set the REQUIRE and BEFORE fields. You can use that to re-order the startup scripts. Use the `service` command to see the new startup order -- there's a flag that will give you that output. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?
On 9/30/2013 15:01, Brett Glass wrote: How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The improvements are welcome, but there have been a few troubling messages about kernel panics and VM issues on the various mailing lists. It's never clear until the release drops whether these are actual problems with the software or hardware defects in individual systems, so I am eager to hear how the new release is working for everyone. --Brett Glass Just upgraded a system running in KVM, working like a charm. -- staticsafe O ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org Please don't top post. It is not logical. Please don't CC me! I'm subscribed to whatever list I just posted on. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE stability?
Le Mon, 30 Sep 2013 13:01:26 -0600, Brett Glass br...@lariat.net a écrit : Hello, How stable are folks finding FreeBSD 9.2-RELEASE to be? The improvements are welcome, but there have been a few troubling messages about kernel panics and VM issues on the various mailing lists. It's never clear until the release drops whether these are actual problems with the software or hardware defects in individual systems, so I am eager to hear how the new release is working for everyone. I've seen two problems if you use poudriere (on ZFS only?) which occur in some loads (ie desktop running gvfsd). One fix is in 9-STABLE and the other one should be mfced soon. May be there will be an errata for 9.2-RELEASE for this ? I think that would be nice because 9.2 is stable as a Windows 3.11 with my load :-) Regards. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.4 Boot failure
Well, I wasn't able to continue troubleshooting. I took the opportunity that the server was already down to upgrade the BIOS. HP kindly does not provide any checks or warnings letting you know that you need to do a stepped upgrade, so the server is bricked. *sigh*. So this likely won't get investigated more. I'll be setting up a new server and attempting to import the zpools there. Thank for your advice anyhow! If this happens again on another server, I'll see about trying more things. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:46 AM, Tyler Sweet ty...@tsweet.net wrote: Luckily, in this case, I had set a cron job long, long ago to do daily snapshots. So I have a snapshot from before the upgrade - There are indeed two different loaders. The newer one matches zfs when grepped, the older one does not... But, since it was working before, I restored the older loader and tried to boot again. No dice - it still sticks at that screen where all I see is / in the upper left. I also tried putting the older zfsboot and zfsloader back in place (with the old loader) to try and get a different error - still no dice. I'm still stuck wondering if that screen is from FreeBSD attempting to boot, or from the BIOS - but nothing changed for booting, as far as I know. I'll poke through the BIOS more tomorrow as well to see if some option got reset during a power-off. I'll get a more thorough look at what all changed in /boot tomorrow too, and get a list of all the files. It's almost 4am here and I have to work tomorrow :) (well, today I suppose). I'll also check to see if I can find anything about if zfs boot works differently in 8.4 vs 8.3 and older, as I may not have rebooted after the final freebsd-update install command (I *think* I did, but my memory gets fuzzy). Thanks for the input! I hope you have a good morning, and I'll let you know tomorrow/later today with anything new and interesting I find :) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Terje Elde te...@elde.net wrote: On 25. sep. 2013, at 06:59, Tyler Sweet ty...@tsweet.net wrote: I tried reinstalling the boot blocks from both the fixit live filesystem and also mounting zroot and using the files there in case they were different. Disclaimer: I haven't gotten (enough) morning-coffee yet, but... Disclaimer 2: at times tracking how zfs-booting is done in the different versions can be a bit tricky. This is a moving target, and I've lost track of the 8-branch. That said, assuming you have the correct bootcode (gptzfsboot), here's what might have happened: You installed 8.2, with a loader supporting zfs. Then you upgraded your /boot-stuffs, and bootcode on disk (correctly), but got left with a loader without zfs support. Then tried to upgrade the bootcode, but you're still left with a loader not supporting zfs. If I recall correctly, then the zfs-bootcode for 9+ will use zfsloader (supporting zfs and built by default), while earlier versions depend on loader with zfs support (built without by default). If that's the case, you could dump LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT into /etc/make.conf and rebuild/reinstall it, or install /boot/loader from the fixit (if it has zfs support in 8.4). That's my first thought at least... If that doesn't fix it (remember backups of any files you replace or upgrade), it'd be interesting to see the output of: ls -l /boot/*loader /boot/*boot On the /boot you're using. Anything that didn't get built or installed? Also, did you snapshot your zfs before upgrading? Could be a working /boot/loader there, which might be the easiest way to get the system up, before rebuilding with ZFS-capable loader... if I'm right, which isn't a given (ref disclaimers). Terje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.4 Boot failure
On 25. sep. 2013, at 06:59, Tyler Sweet ty...@tsweet.net wrote: I tried reinstalling the boot blocks from both the fixit live filesystem and also mounting zroot and using the files there in case they were different. Disclaimer: I haven't gotten (enough) morning-coffee yet, but... Disclaimer 2: at times tracking how zfs-booting is done in the different versions can be a bit tricky. This is a moving target, and I've lost track of the 8-branch. That said, assuming you have the correct bootcode (gptzfsboot), here's what might have happened: You installed 8.2, with a loader supporting zfs. Then you upgraded your /boot-stuffs, and bootcode on disk (correctly), but got left with a loader without zfs support. Then tried to upgrade the bootcode, but you're still left with a loader not supporting zfs. If I recall correctly, then the zfs-bootcode for 9+ will use zfsloader (supporting zfs and built by default), while earlier versions depend on loader with zfs support (built without by default). If that's the case, you could dump LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT into /etc/make.conf and rebuild/reinstall it, or install /boot/loader from the fixit (if it has zfs support in 8.4). That's my first thought at least... If that doesn't fix it (remember backups of any files you replace or upgrade), it'd be interesting to see the output of: ls -l /boot/*loader /boot/*boot On the /boot you're using. Anything that didn't get built or installed? Also, did you snapshot your zfs before upgrading? Could be a working /boot/loader there, which might be the easiest way to get the system up, before rebuilding with ZFS-capable loader... if I'm right, which isn't a given (ref disclaimers). Terje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.4 Boot failure
Luckily, in this case, I had set a cron job long, long ago to do daily snapshots. So I have a snapshot from before the upgrade - There are indeed two different loaders. The newer one matches zfs when grepped, the older one does not... But, since it was working before, I restored the older loader and tried to boot again. No dice - it still sticks at that screen where all I see is / in the upper left. I also tried putting the older zfsboot and zfsloader back in place (with the old loader) to try and get a different error - still no dice. I'm still stuck wondering if that screen is from FreeBSD attempting to boot, or from the BIOS - but nothing changed for booting, as far as I know. I'll poke through the BIOS more tomorrow as well to see if some option got reset during a power-off. I'll get a more thorough look at what all changed in /boot tomorrow too, and get a list of all the files. It's almost 4am here and I have to work tomorrow :) (well, today I suppose). I'll also check to see if I can find anything about if zfs boot works differently in 8.4 vs 8.3 and older, as I may not have rebooted after the final freebsd-update install command (I *think* I did, but my memory gets fuzzy). Thanks for the input! I hope you have a good morning, and I'll let you know tomorrow/later today with anything new and interesting I find :) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Terje Elde te...@elde.net wrote: On 25. sep. 2013, at 06:59, Tyler Sweet ty...@tsweet.net wrote: I tried reinstalling the boot blocks from both the fixit live filesystem and also mounting zroot and using the files there in case they were different. Disclaimer: I haven't gotten (enough) morning-coffee yet, but... Disclaimer 2: at times tracking how zfs-booting is done in the different versions can be a bit tricky. This is a moving target, and I've lost track of the 8-branch. That said, assuming you have the correct bootcode (gptzfsboot), here's what might have happened: You installed 8.2, with a loader supporting zfs. Then you upgraded your /boot-stuffs, and bootcode on disk (correctly), but got left with a loader without zfs support. Then tried to upgrade the bootcode, but you're still left with a loader not supporting zfs. If I recall correctly, then the zfs-bootcode for 9+ will use zfsloader (supporting zfs and built by default), while earlier versions depend on loader with zfs support (built without by default). If that's the case, you could dump LOADER_ZFS_SUPPORT into /etc/make.conf and rebuild/reinstall it, or install /boot/loader from the fixit (if it has zfs support in 8.4). That's my first thought at least... If that doesn't fix it (remember backups of any files you replace or upgrade), it'd be interesting to see the output of: ls -l /boot/*loader /boot/*boot On the /boot you're using. Anything that didn't get built or installed? Also, did you snapshot your zfs before upgrading? Could be a working /boot/loader there, which might be the easiest way to get the system up, before rebuilding with ZFS-capable loader... if I'm right, which isn't a given (ref disclaimers). Terje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!
All: It's good to see corporate support of BSD, but at the same time I have mixed feelings about certain corporations -- Verisign among them -- hosting BSD-related conferences or becoming involved in the development of BSD-based operating systems. Why? Because Verisign, based in Reston, Virginia (the city next door to Vienna, VA, home of the NSA), has strong ties to this shadowy agency. The NSA, in turn -- as reported in documents recently leaked by Edward Snowden -- has a very strong interest in weakening the security of cryptographic algorithms, cryptographic software, and operating systems. We may want to look this gift horse very carefully in the mouth, or at least monitor very closely contributions of code that might introduce backdoors or weaknesses. --Brett Glass ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!
Brett Glass wrote: All: It's good to see corporate support of BSD, but at the same time I have mixed feelings about certain corporations -- Verisign among them -- hosting BSD-related conferences or becoming involved in the development of BSD-based operating systems. Why? Because Verisign, based in Reston, Virginia (the city next door to Vienna, VA, home of the NSA), has strong ties to this shadowy agency. No. I used to work right down the street from Network Solutions (now known as Verisign) in Herndon. Indeed, I had job offerings from them but felt I was better off to stay where I was. The NSA is headquartered at Ft Meade, near Columbia in Maryland. I worked there for 8 years? The CIA headquarters is in Mclean, Virgina, which is right next door to Vienna. Reston/Herndon is a few miles down the Dulles Toll Rd to the west. I've been to all these places, so this is not some MapQuest google for me. The NSA, in turn -- as reported in documents recently leaked by Edward Snowden -- has a very strong interest in weakening the security of cryptographic algorithms, cryptographic software, and operating systems. We may want to look this gift horse very carefully in the mouth, or at least monitor very closely contributions of code that might introduce backdoors or weaknesses. On some level I agree with this - to a point. Examine how the NSA maneuvered the NIST to approve and mandate the FIPS-140 protocols, where deeply concealed was a known weak prng. To some of us this is not news - we've known it for a long time. Arguments of pro vs con, good vs evil, ad infinitum ad nauseum, etc, are better served in a different venue. It is so much easier to get away with concealing such things inside the closed-source paradigm. What I like and admire with open source is the code is out there in public for all to examine. These truly arcane crypto stuffs operate at such a high level of mathematical complexity that even very highly skilled cryptographer/mathematicians argue amongst themselves. I am just not that smart, or that highly educated. There are some in the open source community who do have very large propellers on their beanie caps. I defer to them simply because they are smarter then me. I would trust them long before I would trust closed source. I agree about the 'looking the gift horse in the mouth' concept. Bear in mind, however, some of the guys at NIST are pretty smart too. And yet this FIPS-140/prng stuff went right by them. My suggestion is for FreeBSD (indeed open source in general) to try and engage, include, and attract to the community the kinds of elite mathematician who may have the facilities to examine the code at a higher level than can dummies like me. Whenever The Citadel wants the public to fixate on any one particular brouhaha I know they are trying to get everyone looking in a particular direction whilst they are pulling something else. Verisign may very well have some other obfuscated agenda. Take a step backwards and try to obtain some view of the bigger picture (hint). Will not elaborate here, even though I do have some crackpot ideas. I find it highly ironic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowden_%28character%29#Snowden I got no end of amusement from this. Just my $ 0.02. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!
Any contribution from a company like Verisign needs to be carefully scrutinized. I also don't think it wise to allow them to take a leadership role of any type. On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com wrote: Brett Glass wrote: All: It's good to see corporate support of BSD, but at the same time I have mixed feelings about certain corporations -- Verisign among them -- hosting BSD-related conferences or becoming involved in the development of BSD-based operating systems. Why? Because Verisign, based in Reston, Virginia (the city next door to Vienna, VA, home of the NSA), has strong ties to this shadowy agency. No. I used to work right down the street from Network Solutions (now known as Verisign) in Herndon. Indeed, I had job offerings from them but felt I was better off to stay where I was. The NSA is headquartered at Ft Meade, near Columbia in Maryland. I worked there for 8 years? The CIA headquarters is in Mclean, Virgina, which is right next door to Vienna. Reston/Herndon is a few miles down the Dulles Toll Rd to the west. I've been to all these places, so this is not some MapQuest google for me. The NSA, in turn -- as reported in documents recently leaked by Edward Snowden -- has a very strong interest in weakening the security of cryptographic algorithms, cryptographic software, and operating systems. We may want to look this gift horse very carefully in the mouth, or at least monitor very closely contributions of code that might introduce backdoors or weaknesses. On some level I agree with this - to a point. Examine how the NSA maneuvered the NIST to approve and mandate the FIPS-140 protocols, where deeply concealed was a known weak prng. To some of us this is not news - we've known it for a long time. Arguments of pro vs con, good vs evil, ad infinitum ad nauseum, etc, are better served in a different venue. It is so much easier to get away with concealing such things inside the closed-source paradigm. What I like and admire with open source is the code is out there in public for all to examine. These truly arcane crypto stuffs operate at such a high level of mathematical complexity that even very highly skilled cryptographer/mathematicians argue amongst themselves. I am just not that smart, or that highly educated. There are some in the open source community who do have very large propellers on their beanie caps. I defer to them simply because they are smarter then me. I would trust them long before I would trust closed source. I agree about the 'looking the gift horse in the mouth' concept. Bear in mind, however, some of the guys at NIST are pretty smart too. And yet this FIPS-140/prng stuff went right by them. My suggestion is for FreeBSD (indeed open source in general) to try and engage, include, and attract to the community the kinds of elite mathematician who may have the facilities to examine the code at a higher level than can dummies like me. Whenever The Citadel wants the public to fixate on any one particular brouhaha I know they are trying to get everyone looking in a particular direction whilst they are pulling something else. Verisign may very well have some other obfuscated agenda. Take a step backwards and try to obtain some view of the bigger picture (hint). Will not elaborate here, even though I do have some crackpot ideas. I find it highly ironic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowden_%28character%29#Snowden I got no end of amusement from this. Just my $ 0.02. -Mike ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!
Hi,
Good points in Brett Michael's posts, but for brevity not copied.
Best avoid having code written reviewed just in USA as it would get less
trust globaly, NSA is a known alien mega spy, USA even coerces non USA
citizens outside USA, eg
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/aug/01/gary-mckinnon-extradition-nightmare
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/ukhomeoffice-stop-the-extradition-of-richard-o-dwyer-to-the-usa-saverichard
Best encourage FreeBSD sources to be used suspiciously reviewed by a
variety of programmers mathematicians/ cryptologists from different
backgrounds countries;
Max chance of loophole reporting with more people from a spectrum
of countries with rival mutualy distrusting governments from such
as eg { Britain, China, France, Germany, Israel, North Korea,
Russia, Syria, USA } etc.
Presumably nearly all of us are cluless on crypto. math. so meantime
encourage involvement of citizens of at least a few different
dis-trusting countries.
Kernels perhaps have less reviewers than cross-OS S/W eg GPG
Open-SSH etc, so kernels might be target of choice of suborners ?
Maybe FreeBSD Foundation could set up a cheap bonus scheme for security
bugs exposed/ fixed - Special edition coffee mugs, non purchasable,
sent only as a reward, posted globaly free.
Cheers,
Julian
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Re: [FreeBSD-Announce] vBSDcon Registrations Only Open For 30 More Days!
On Mon, 2013-09-23 at 20:00 -0400, Robert Simmons wrote: Any contribution from a company like Verisign needs to be carefully scrutinized. No it has to be turned down flat. Huge companies from the USA at all events are untrustworthy. The only trustworthy companies are such companies: I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. - http://lavabit.com/ Levison said that he could be arrested for closing the site instead of releasing the information, and it was reported that the federal prosecutor's office had sent Levinson's lawyer an e-mail to that effect. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit There can't be any doubts about it, Verisign will do what they can do to make FreeBSD insecure. Nothing good will contributed by them. Not a single big company from the USA does not cooperate with the NSA, they all cooperate with the NSA. Regards, Ralf ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
Hi Greg questions@ etc That's massively out of date. Mike left Adelaide in 1998, and has been working for Apple in Cupertino for about 10 years. OK deleted. Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286 That's out of date too. I left Adelaide over 6 years ago. Up-to-date information at http://www.lemis.com/grog/ . OK Updated. Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-) I've cc'd them both Thanks. Danny did in fact contact me directly, and I think we've found somebody for him. Good :-) PS for other consultants: If you want to be added to geographic indexed table just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/ It would certainly be a good idea for more eyes to go through this list and help you get it up to date. Updates welcome, preferably in format diff -c Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
Hi, Reference: From: Danny Beger da...@beger.com.au Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:30:57 +0930 Danny Beger wrote: I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build / purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd. Can you recommend anyone? Happily, http://www.berklix.com/consultants/table.html shows Mike Smith in Adelaide +61 8 8267 3493 Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286 Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-) I've cc'd them both PS for other consultants: If you want to be added to geographic indexed table just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/ Regards _ _ Danny Beger | Beger Co Lawyers p: 8362 6400 | f: 8362 3555 www.beger.com.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. No quoted-printable, HTML, base64, multipart/alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
Danny Beger wrote: I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build / purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd. Can you recommend anyone? Regards _ _ Danny Beger | Beger Co Lawyers p: 8362 6400 | f: 8362 3555 www.beger.com.au Liability limited by a scheme approved under Professional Standards Legislation ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Aloha, I believe Greg Lehey is in Australia. g...@freebsd.org I have seen several others on the list at different times too. AL ~Al Plant - Honolulu, Hawaii - Phone: 808-284-2740 + http://hawaiidakine.com + http://freebsdinfo.org + + http://aloha50.net - Supporting - FreeBSD 7.2 - 8.0 - 9* + email: n...@hdk5.net All that's really worth doing is what we do for others.- Lewis Carrol ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd support in Adelaide wanted
I considered dropping FreeBSD-questions from this reply, but since it contains out-of-date contact details, I'm leaving them in. On Saturday, 21 September 2013 at 17:17:07 +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: Hi, Reference: From:Danny Beger da...@beger.com.au Date:Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:30:57 +0930 Danny Beger wrote: I have a small law firm in Adelaide and I am looking to engage someone to build / purchase a new server to replace my current server which runs v6 freebsd. Can you recommend anyone? Happily, http://www.berklix.com/consultants/table.html shows Mike Smith in Adelaide +61 8 8267 3493 That's massively out of date. Mike left Adelaide in 1998, and has been working for Apple in Cupertino for about 10 years. Greg Lehey in Echunga +61 8 83888286 That's out of date too. I left Adelaide over 6 years ago. Up-to-date information at http://www.lemis.com/grog/ . Both are well know in FreeBSD community :-) I've cc'd them both Thanks. Danny did in fact contact me directly, and I think we've found somebody for him. PS for other consultants: If you want to be added to geographic indexed table just email me a pre-prepared HTML table enty See: http://www.berklix.com/consultants/ It would certainly be a good idea for more eyes to go through this list and help you get it up to date. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger g...@freebsd.org for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft MUA reports problems, please read http://tinyurl.com/broken-mua pgpq8FhBNt4Hc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD stuck during the boot process.
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:15:58 +0300, Atar wrote: When I try to boot FreeBSD from a USB stick, it stuck during the boot process. But if I boot it in safe mode, it succeeds to boot. How can I figure out what's wrong with the standard boot process? I can't even log the boot messages since the computer stuck and not respond. You could try a verbose boot (equivalent: boot -v) and see _when_ the system stops resonding. It would help to post the error message (last lines of console output) to the list to get a better impression about what's happening. If I remember correctly, safe mode refers to the mode with ACPI disabled, right? In this case, it _could_ be an ACPI problem (a really wild guess, as you have provided no information about the system you are trying to boot FreeBSD on). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD stuck during the boot process.
On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 9:47 AM, atar atar.yo...@gmail.com wrote: Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:15:58 +0300, Atar wrote: When I try to boot FreeBSD from a USB stick, it stuck during the boot process. But if I boot it in safe mode, it succeeds to boot. Yes, you remember correctly, safe mode disable the ACPI support automatically. The problem may also be that USB devices take a long time to settle. I suggest these in your /boot/loader.conf hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 kern.cam.boot_delay=1 kern.cam.scsi_delay=2000 The CAM boot delay is needed for USB booting on some of my machines, esp. Soekris boxes. 10 seconds is safe. - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD stuck during the boot process.
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 12:15:58 +0300, Atar wrote: When I try to boot FreeBSD from a USB stick, it stuck during the boot process. But if I boot it in safe mode, it succeeds to boot. How can I figure out what's wrong with the standard boot process? I can't even log the boot messages since the computer stuck and not respond. You could try a verbose boot (equivalent: boot -v) and see _when_ the system stops resonding. It would help to post the error message (last lines of console output) to the list to get a better impression about what's happening. If I remember correctly, safe mode refers to the mode with ACPI disabled, right? In this case, it _could_ be an ACPI problem (a really wild guess, as you have provided no information about the system you are trying to boot FreeBSD on). Thanks for replying!! Yes, you remember correctly, safe mode disable the ACPI support automatically. I think it's a problem in the ACPI system because when I disable ACPI, it boot successfully even without choosing safe mode. But what that is strange here, is that Microsoft Windows and Linux (Debian) are able to boot with ACPI enabled. furthermore, some days ago FreeBSD itself succeeded to boot also with ACPI support enabled. As for the error messages, there's not a particular error message. it simply stuck during the initialization of the PCI bus. Here are the last eight lines: pcib2: ACPI PCI-PCI bridge at device 30.0 on pci0 pcib2: domain 0 pcib2: secondary bus2 pcib2: subordinate bus 2 pcib2: no prefetched decode pcib2 Subtractively decoded bridge. pcib2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 pcib2: domain=0, physical bus=2 Regards, atar. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Squid 3.2 Reverse Proxy with HTTPS
Hi Dean, Just stumbled upon your post. I'm encountering the exact same issue as you with my freebsd 8.3 squid-3.2.13 server. Have you learned anything new on this issue? Best, Daniel -- daniel duerr | president | ouido.net d...@ouido.net | +1 (831) 531-2272 x103 Managed hosting services for Business ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Squid 3.2 Reverse Proxy with HTTPS
On 09/05/2013 7:24 pm, Daniel Duerr wrote: Hi Dean, Just stumbled upon your post. I'm encountering the exact same issue as you with my freebsd 8.3 squid-3.2.13 server. Have you learned anything new on this issue? Best, Daniel -- daniel duerr | president | ouido.net d...@ouido.net | +1 (831) 531-2272 x103 Managed hosting services for Business ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Well Yes and No, I never did find the exact cause or fix, but when I tried the Squid 3.3 after the FreeBSD port was available on 9.1 the problem was gone. -- Thanks, Dean E. Weimer http://www.dweimer.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD ports problem
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Harpreet Singh Chawla preet10101...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to install virtualbox support for my FreeBSD 9.1. A package named v4l_compat-1.0.20120501.tar.gz is causing problems in the installation. The package was downloaded automatically and it exists in /usr/ports/distfiles, yet it keeps giving an error stating that the file doesn't exist. Please help. *Harpreet Singh Chawla* ___ No idea about virtualbox port, but have you tried deleting the offending file (rm -f /usr/ports/distfiles/v4l_compat-1.0.20120501.tar.gz)? Amitabh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD ports problem
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Harpreet Singh Chawla preet10101...@gmail.com wrote: yup...did it...and downloaded manually... But its giving a checksum matching error. *Harpreet Singh Chawla* On 29 August 2013 22:48, Amitabh Kant amitabhk...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Harpreet Singh Chawla preet10101...@gmail.com wrote: I have been trying to install virtualbox support for my FreeBSD 9.1. A package named v4l_compat-1.0.20120501.tar.gz is causing problems in the installation. The package was downloaded automatically and it exists in /usr/ports/distfiles, yet it keeps giving an error stating that the file doesn't exist. Please help. *Harpreet Singh Chawla* ___ No idea about virtualbox port, but have you tried deleting the offending file (rm -f /usr/ports/distfiles/v4l_compat-1.0.20120501.tar.gz)? Amitabh After deleting, you don't need to download it manually. The port should download it if needed. Try updating your ports tree to see if the problem has been rectified. Amitabh ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1619404 It is helpful too… On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org wrote: On 15 August 2013, at 06:37, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: How will be ATI supported in FreeBSD 9.2, please? I like bluetooth mouse. Is it supported? I try Linux Mint and it works perfect. I am downloading live CD for NetBSD (jibbed) and I will see how is works but I like to install FreeBSD (not double boot, just FreeBSD). See: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?28915479-B712-4ED0-A041-B75F2F59FECA Thats not a complete answer as I don't use any of the user interface stuff. However, it will give a starting point for you. I have updated my two newest minis to run 9.2 (latest candidate). Mitja http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on ThinkPad W530
On Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:40:58 +0200, vermaden wrote: Hi and thanks for reply ;) Yay another FreeBSD laptop user! I use FreeBSD for dekstop/workstation for I do not remember how long: http://vermaden.deviantart.com/art/CorporateBSD-FreeBSD-at-Work-190680188 Please do this: * join the freebsd-mobile list;* create PRs for each of your problems with -10 above!; Here are created PRs: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181281 stack trace after successfull 'umount /mnt' (SDHC card mounted as msdosfs) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181282 3h of work on battery on FreeBSD while 10h on Windows Hi; I'm only going to address this one, so chopping mercilessly .. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181283 acpi_ibm module is useless on ThinkPad W530 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181285 x11/xorg does not start if Nvidia Optimus is enabled on * the power utilisation thing is going to be fun to track down - what kind of CPU is in there? Is it a recent Intel? I'm playing around with their tools at the moment; maybe we can look at the power the CPU is consuming and then add on the power from each of the other parts in your laptop until we figure out what's drawing said power Can't fault the comprensiveness of your PR 181282 :) I did notice: dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 As a starting point, try following mav@'s excellent Tuning Power guide: https://wiki.freebsd.org/TuningPowerConsumption I don't know what the i7 or your BIOS does about C-states, but using C2 and especially if you can get to C3 or equivalent could give a big win; with other tunings Alexander managed to double battery life (on a C2D) You said powerd was 'working' but without indication of effectiveness, such as what CPU speeds correspond to idle/light load/full load etc? You may want to try tuning its default modes/idle/busy settings, and measure real power used at different freqs. I suggest trying the advice there to disable p4tcc and acpi_throttle, reducing number of P-states considerably. Then 'service powerd stop', run powerd -v in a console and measure power consumption at various loads and CPU frequencies. If you have no wattmeter, acpiconf -i0 may serve as a guide (though you do have to wait a while for changes to be reflected); for such monitoring (albeit with working acpi_ibm) I use: smithi on t23% cat ~/bin/t23stat #!/bin/sh echo -n `date` sysctl dev.cpu.0.freq dev.cpu.0.cx_usage sysctl dev.acpi_ibm | egrep 'fan_|thermal' sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature acpiconf -i0 | egrep 'State|Remain|Present|Volt' smithi on t23% t23stat Mon Aug 19 22:09:15 EST 2013 dev.cpu.0.freq: 733 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 0.05% 99.94% 0.00% last 529us dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_speed: 2254 dev.acpi_ibm.0.fan_level: 1 dev.acpi_ibm.0.thermal: 47 46 42 -1 -1 -1 29 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 47.0C State: discharging Remaining capacity: 95% Remaining time: 2:36 Present rate: 17313 mW Present voltage:12236 mV Cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd 9.2 via svn
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 02:28:25 +0100, John wrote: Is it safe to start using 9.2 in the svn repos? I have a line like this in a daily crontab: svn co svn://svn.us-east.freebsd.org/base/releng/9.1 /usr/src Can I change that 9.1 to 9.2 now, or should I wait? I aim to follow 9.2-R with security updates. 9.2-RELEASE hasn't been released yet. :-) http://www.freebsd.org/releases/9.2R/schedule.html If you don't use a custom kernel, why not use freebsd-update and follow the 9.2-RELEASE path with the security updates? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd 9.2 via svn
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 04:17:02AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: 9.2-RELEASE hasn't been released yet. :-) well yes, there is that I suppose ;) If you don't use a custom kernel, why not use freebsd-update and follow the 9.2-RELEASE path with the security updates? Not sure if this is logic or religon, but freebsd-update makes me nervous. I'm allergic to automatic anything unless I've written it. The only times I've run generic is when installing a new system, to see what I need and what I don't. Maybe I'm just old. thanks for the input, -- John ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd 9.2 via svn
On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 04:22:15 +0100, John wrote: If you don't use a custom kernel, why not use freebsd-update and follow the 9.2-RELEASE path with the security updates? Not sure if this is logic or religon, but freebsd-update makes me nervous. I'm allergic to automatic anything unless I've written it. The only times I've run generic is when installing a new system, to see what I need and what I don't. Maybe I'm just old. You demonstrated a valid argument for building from source. Using freebsd-update, a binary method is used for updating the _default_ system and the GENERIC kernel. If you have custom settings and therefore _intend_ to build from source, changing the version in your svn co command to the new -RELEASE-pX branch (security update branch) is safe. I've been using a similar approach with CVS to follow the -STABLE branch with a custom kernel and custom settings for building the system. If this makes me old, I should deserve several birthday parties per year. ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2
Thank you very much. I will wait for 9.2 release or switch to Linux which works but it is not hat I want it… On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Doug Hardie bc...@lafn.org wrote: On 15 August 2013, at 06:37, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: How will be ATI supported in FreeBSD 9.2, please? I like bluetooth mouse. Is it supported? I try Linux Mint and it works perfect. I am downloading live CD for NetBSD (jibbed) and I will see how is works but I like to install FreeBSD (not double boot, just FreeBSD). See: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?28915479-B712-4ED0-A041-B75F2F59FECA Thats not a complete answer as I don't use any of the user interface stuff. However, it will give a starting point for you. I have updated my two newest minis to run 9.2 (latest candidate). Mitja http://www.redbubble.com/people/lumiwa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.2
On 15 August 2013, at 06:37, ajtiM lum...@gmail.com wrote: How will be ATI supported in FreeBSD 9.2, please? I like bluetooth mouse. Is it supported? I try Linux Mint and it works perfect. I am downloading live CD for NetBSD (jibbed) and I will see how is works but I like to install FreeBSD (not double boot, just FreeBSD). See: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?28915479-B712-4ED0-A041-B75F2F59FECA Thats not a complete answer as I don't use any of the user interface stuff. However, it will give a starting point for you. I have updated my two newest minis to run 9.2 (latest candidate). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on ThinkPad W530
Hi and thanks for reply ;) Yay another FreeBSD laptop user! I use FreeBSD for dekstop/workstation for I do not remember how long: http://vermaden.deviantart.com/art/CorporateBSD-FreeBSD-at-Work-190680188 Please do this: * join the freebsd-mobile list;* create PRs for each of your problems with -10 above!; Here are created PRs: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181281 stack trace after successfull 'umount /mnt' (SDHC card mounted as msdosfs) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181282 3h of work on battery on FreeBSD while 10h on Windows http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181283 acpi_ibm module is useless on ThinkPad W530 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=181285 x11/xorg does not start if Nvidia Optimus is enabled on * the power utilisation thing is going to be fun to track down - what kind of CPU is in there? Is it a recent Intel? I'm playing around with their tools at the moment; maybe we can look at the power the CPU is consuming and then add on the power from each of the other parts in your laptop until we figure out what's drawing said power * the brightness thing is known; a bunch of us have this issue and the fix is known. Trouble is, there's no (yet) clean fix that's made it into acpi_ibm. I'm glad there's another person who cares; it means we have more chance of getting a real fix that works for multiple people into the tree. As for suspend/resume - I'm glad it at least works for you. Right now I don't even get video output upon resume. But, it's a starting point. Let's get the PRs filed, the brightness thing pushed into -HEAD, and then start down the path of figuring out where the power consumption is coming from. Here is the hardware information: Lenovo ThinkPad W530 cpu: Intel Core i7-3630QM (http://ark.intel.com/products/71459) (powerd works) ram: 16 GB DDR3 hdd: 256 GB SSD gfx: Intel HD 4000 (works with Optimus disabled in BIOS) gfx: Nvidia Quadro K2000 2 GB (works with Optimus disabled in BIOS) sdh: RICOH R5CE823 (SD/SDHC card reader works) wif: Intel Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (works) The complete information (dmesg/dmidecode) is in the submitted PRs. Regards, vermaden | Hi, | | I have just tried FreeBSD on ThinkPad W530 and I must say that its very disapointing experience ... | | The FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 and PC-BSD 9.2-BETA2 does not even boot from the USB drive - instant kernel panic and reboot. | | The FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT was able to boot successfully and I could install FreeBSD onto the drive with 'ZFS Madnss' style. | | After installation with extended battery charged to 100% I have about 3 hours of work ... while having about 10 hours on Windows (haven't tried Linux yet). I disabled discrete graphics (Nvidia) in the BIOS and also added set hw.pci.do_power_nodriver to 3, but that also did not solved the 'battery' problem. The powerd daemon was of course running and worked ok. | | After compiling new x11/xorg (with WITH_NEW_XORG in /etc/make.conf) along with x11-wm/openbox I was able to get X11 working, but I can not go back to console as its not implemented yet. | | The screen is 100% bright all the time because acpi_ibm module probably does not support this model yet (changing the dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness is pointless, no effects). | | Suspend and resume works very poor, after resume the resolution is 640x640 with all colors broken, requires restarting X11 in 'blind mode' (not implemented console switching). | | Of course as all of the above is not possible, using the Nvidia Optimus technology (graphics card switching) is probably also not possible, which is possible with Bumblebee on Linux, any plans on merging that functionality into FreeBSD? | | At least WiFi and LAN worked out of the box ... | | | Now ... how can I help, what information can I provide to help resolve these issues: | | 1. disable power for discrete graphics card | 2. have working screen brightness changing and working other Fn + X shotrcuts | 3. I guess I will have to 'just wait' for the console switching implementation? | | ... or maybe I am doing it 'wrong' someone have W530 there and uses FreeBSD with any more degree of success then I? | | | Regards, | vermaden ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on ThinkPad W530
Hi! Yay another FreeBSD laptop user! Please do this: * join the freebsd-mobile list; * create PRs for each of your problems with -10 above!; * the power utilisation thing is going to be fun to track down - what kind of CPU is in there? Is it a recent Intel? I'm playing around with their tools at the moment; maybe we can look at the power the CPU is consuming and then add on the power from each of the other parts in your laptop until we figure out what's drawing said power * the brightness thing is known; a bunch of us have this issue and the fix is known. Trouble is, there's no (yet) clean fix that's made it into acpi_ibm. I'm glad there's another person who cares; it means we have more chance of getting a real fix that works for multiple people into the tree. As for suspend/resume - I'm glad it at least works for you. Right now I don't even get video output upon resume. But, it's a starting point. Let's get the PRs filed, the brightness thing pushed into -HEAD, and then start down the path of figuring out where the power consumption is coming from. -adrian On 13 August 2013 15:21, vermaden verma...@interia.pl wrote: Hi, I have just tried FreeBSD on ThinkPad W530 and I must say that its very disapointing experience ... The FreeBSD 9.2-RC1 and PC-BSD 9.2-BETA2 does not even boot from the USB drive - instant kernel panic and reboot. The FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT was able to boot successfully and I could install FreeBSD onto the drive with 'ZFS Madnss' style. After installation with extended battery charged to 100% I have about 3 hours of work ... while having about 10 hours on Windows (haven't tried Linux yet). I disabled discrete graphics (Nvidia) in the BIOS and also added set hw.pci.do_power_nodriver to 3, but that also did not solved the 'battery' problem. The powerd daemon was of course running and worked ok. After compiling new x11/xorg (with WITH_NEW_XORG in /etc/make.conf) along with x11-wm/openbox I was able to get X11 working, but I can not go back to console as its not implemented yet. The screen is 100% bright all the time because acpi_ibm module probably does not support this model yet (changing the dev.acpi_ibm.0.lcd_brightness is pointless, no effects). Suspend and resume works very poor, after resume the resolution is 640x640 with all colors broken, requires restarting X11 in 'blind mode' (not implemented console switching). Of course as all of the above is not possible, using the Nvidia Optimus technology (graphics card switching) is probably also not possible, which is possible with Bumblebee on Linux, any plans on merging that functionality into FreeBSD? At least WiFi and LAN worked out of the box ... Now ... how can I help, what information can I provide to help resolve these issues: 1. disable power for discrete graphics card 2. have working screen brightness changing and working other Fn + X shotrcuts 3. I guess I will have to 'just wait' for the console switching implementation? ... or maybe I am doing it 'wrong' someone have W530 there and uses FreeBSD with any more degree of success then I? Regards, vermaden ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd SVN
On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:46+0400, Alexey Smirnov wrote: Hello community. I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux machine using svn. Here is error i got during this proccess. ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. Thank you. Try one of these: svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base freebsd-all svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/head freebsd-head svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/8 freebsd-stable-8 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 freebsd-stable-9 For the ports collection, use only(!): svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/ports/head freebsd-ports BTW, it's nice to know there's an European svn mirror. -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd SVN
On 1 August 2013 11:46, Alexey Smirnov ramyale...@gmail.com wrote: Hello community. I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux machine using svn. Here is error i got during this proccess. ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Make sure you have compiled SVN with SSL support, if you are going to use the https mirrors. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd SVN
Thank you for the quick answer. The addition of /base helps a lot ) Have a nice day, 2013/8/1 Trond Endrestøl trond.endres...@fagskolen.gjovik.no On Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:46+0400, Alexey Smirnov wrote: Hello community. I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux machine using svn. Here is error i got during this proccess. ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. Thank you. Try one of these: svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base freebsd-all svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/head freebsd-head svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/8 freebsd-stable-8 svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/base/stable/9 freebsd-stable-9 For the ports collection, use only(!): svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org/ports/head freebsd-ports BTW, it's nice to know there's an European svn mirror. -- +---++ | Vennlig hilsen, | Best regards, | | Trond Endrestøl, | Trond Endrestøl, | | IT-ansvarlig, | System administrator, | | Fagskolen Innlandet, | Gjøvik Technical College, Norway, | | tlf. mob. 952 62 567, | Cellular...: +47 952 62 567, | | sentralbord 61 14 54 00. | Switchboard: +47 61 14 54 00. | +---++ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd SVN
On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alexey Smirnov ramyale...@gmail.comwrote: Hello community. I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux machine using svn. Here is error i got during this proccess. ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. Thank you. Hi Alexey, There is an option to set before building the subversion application (# make config). In the FreeBSD port devel/subversion this option is called SERF - WebDAV/Delta-V (HTTP/HTTPS) repo access module. I think the option is similar on youtr Linux system. Kind regards, Alexandre ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Freebsd SVN
Thank you. I already got the answer and evrything is ok now. 2013/8/1 Alexandre axel...@ymail.com On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 11:46 AM, Alexey Smirnov ramyale...@gmail.comwrote: Hello community. I got a question here. I am trying to get freebsd source code on linux machine using svn. Here is error i got during this proccess. ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.eu.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.eu.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-west.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-west.freebsd.org) ramyalexis@asmirnov ~ $ svn co https://svn0.us-east.FreeBSD.org freebsd svn: E175002: Unable to connect to a repository at URL ' https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org' svn: E175002: The OPTIONS request returned invalid XML in the response: XML parse error at line 1: Extra content at the end of the document (https://svn0.us-east.freebsd.org) So i would like to know why this was happend and how to fix it. Thank you. Hi Alexey, There is an option to set before building the subversion application (# make config). In the FreeBSD port devel/subversion this option is called SERF - WebDAV/Delta-V (HTTP/HTTPS) repo access module. I think the option is similar on youtr Linux system. Kind regards, Alexandre ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 01:04:04 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: Hi Devin, Apropos sade (sysadmins disk editor). I have it at /usr/sbin/sade and I am running a FreeBSD 8.3. I also mounted FreeBSD 8.1 and FreeBSD 8.2 and found sade at /usr/sbin/ even in these older FreeBSDs. I can't recall if sade was in 6.x but it certainly is in 7.x. I think Devin meant to say 'in 9 and earlier'. Yes it's taken from the fdisk and bsdlabel sections of sysinstall, but existed long before there was talk of deprecating sysinstall, apart from Jordan's self-deprecatory comments some 18 years ago suggesting it should be updated/replaced, as found under BUGS in sysinstall(8) up to at least 8.2, but not in 9.x: This utility is a prototype which lasted several years past its expira- tion date and is greatly in need of death. Regards, Conny On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. In-fact... sade was (up until recently in HEAD) actual code removed from sysinstall(8). NOTE: In HEAD, sade(8) is now a direct path to bsdinstall partedit Well that will be alright if 'bsdinstall partedit' now does the hitherto missing sade functions, particulary Disklabel Editor functions such as allowing one to toggle newfs on particular (BSD) partitions, toggle softupdates, use custom newfs options, and delete-and-merge partitions? I don't know what the long-term goals are for sade, but it's a nice 4-letter acronym that's a nice keystroke saver (at the very least). As I said, unless you're into the arcane maths needed to run fdisk and bsdlabel manually, sade (or its functions in sysinstall) is the only safe and sane way to manage MBR disks. I'd love to be proven wrong .. And credit to you, Devin, for developing bsdconfig to replace most of sysinstall's other post-installation functions. I'll have a play with that when I upgrade my 9.1 to 9.2 fairly soon. cheers, Ian ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:34:10 +0930, Shane Ambler wrote: On 29/07/2013 08:23, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. % which sade /usr/sbin/sade System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think sade has been introduced in a v8 version of FreeBSD. Or earlier. On 9.1 man sade says -- HISTORY This version of sade first appeared in FreeBSD 6.3. The code is extracted from the sysinstall(8) utility. Really _that_ old? I have to admit that I never really _knew_ about sade, and that is has been mentioned to me when I was already using FreeBSD 8.x, so my memory can be distorted in this regards. Out of lazyness, I've been using the corresponding functionality of sysinstall - formerly also known as /stand/sysinstall :-) - to access what sade can also do. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
Why wouldn't you simply update your 8.1 to 8.4? 2013/7/27 Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft language). Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager, when I installed the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID.) The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 instead. Is this possible to do? A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to get it to work? The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have FreeBSD 8.4 as my new default OS. And have FreeBSD 8.3 untouched for configuring FreeBSD 8.4 and booting into it when ever needed. If I can do this as described above, I will have plenty of space on the disk for the future and a new FreeBSD release. Thanks for your interest in my questions, Conny Andersson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Is there any problem Exterminatus cannot solve? I have not found one yet. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft language). It's just a series of pictures, not a language. ;-) Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager, when I installed the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID.) The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 instead. Is this possible to do? Why do you want to do this? If you keep the s1 slice, you can easily install FreeBSD 8.4 into that slice, leading to this result: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE Or is the numbering order important to you? You could even keep the partitioning inside s1, but there is no problem re-partitioning inside s1. A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) That is a _good_ consideration! To make sure things work independently from boot-time recognition, use labels for the file system and then mount them by using the labels. Encode the OS version number in the labels, so it's even easier to deal with them. Use newfs -L on un-mounted partitions (you can do that from the install media). From the install media, you can easily go to the CLI and use the bsdlabel program to re-write the boot blocks and boot manager if needed. Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to get it to work? Yes, that should be possible. I don't see any problem because this is a UFS partition. As I mentioned earlier, if you apply labels to the partitions on the slices, it's even easier to determine _which_ 'a' partition (root partition) you are currently dealing with. And if you continue your installation scheme in further versions, you will be freed from remembering what OS version resides on what slice. You then simply do mount /dev/ufs/root83 /mnt; vi /mnt/etc/fstab and you _immediately_ know which installation you're currently dealing with. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not have a boot manager option anyway. So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with identifying slices. That is a _good_ consideration! To make sure things work independently from boot-time recognition, use labels for the file system and then mount them by using the labels. Encode the OS version number in the labels, so it's even easier to deal with them. Use newfs -L on un-mounted partitions (you can do that from the install media). For existing filesystems, that would be tunefs -L. And agreed, filesystem labels make relocation much easier. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not have a boot manager option anyway. Sometimes I'm confusing them, because I usually don't use the installer and usually use fdisk (if needed), bsdlabel and newfs. :-) So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with identifying slices. Maybe the required device driver is not part of the 8.x GENERIC kernel? So for example a drive could come up either as /dev/ada0 or as /dev/ad6, depending on how the recognition order and PATA / SATA thing is handled by the system and its BIOS. Labels will work independently from wheather the device will be recognized as ATA disk (for example /dev/ad6s1a being the root disk) or SATA disk (where /dev/ada6s1 would be the root disk). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 08:18:39 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not have a boot manager option anyway. Sometimes I'm confusing them, because I usually don't use the installer and usually use fdisk (if needed), bsdlabel and newfs. :-) gpart does a lot more than both fdisk and bsdlabel, and is easier to use. :) So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with identifying slices. Maybe the required device driver is not part of the 8.x GENERIC kernel? So for example a drive could come up either as /dev/ada0 or as /dev/ad6, depending on how the recognition order and PATA / SATA thing is handled by the system and its BIOS. Really, it should always be ada, unless someone has built a custom kernel that intentionally uses the old form. That's usually a mistake. (AHCI is a separate, unrelated thing.) Labels will work independently from wheather the device will be recognized as ATA disk (for example /dev/ad6s1a being the root disk) or SATA disk (where /dev/ada6s1 would be the root disk). Yes. Labels don't care about the hardware connection. So they'll continue to work when you take a drive out of a machine and put it in a USB enclosure, for example. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 477, Issue 8, Message: 10 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com wrote: Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft language). Yes, best humour adherents of the Almighty Bill - keeps them sweet. Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager, when I installed the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR disks. bsdinstall seems fine for GPT, but its paradigm doesn't play so well with trying to do the sorts of manipulations you're talking about here. Why noone's tried to update sade(8) for GPT I don't understand; it's a far better, more forgiving interface, in my old-fashioned? view. (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID.) The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 instead. Is this possible to do? Yes and no. Using sysinstall|sade on my 9.1 laptop -- without setting sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 so it can't write any inadvertent changes to my disk :) -- in the fdisk screen you can delete the first two slices freeing their space for a new slice (or two) and you can then allocate s1 ok, but the existing s3 is still called s3. Would that be a problem? If you only created one slice there you'd have s1 and s3, with s2 and s4 marked as empty in the MBR shown by fdisk(8). MBR slice order need not follow disk allocations, eg s4 might point to an earlier disk region. sysinstall|sade has undo options for both fdisk and bsdlabel modules; it's easy to play with, no chance of damage - even with foot-shooting flag set, unless/until you commit to changes. If in doubt hit escape until it backs right out, nothing will be written. A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) If you're running 8.4 sysinstall as init, ie booted into the installer, and you've told it to install to s1, then it should set s1 as the active partition in the disk table and in boot0cfg's active slice table. I've never tried it with a second disk so I can't confirm that will all play nice, but you seem to have installed 3 versions ok before :) If not, you can run boot0cfg(8) anytime to set the active slice etc, so that shouldn't be a worry. Likely need to set debugflags=16 to do that on a running system also .. don't forget to set them back to 0 later! (For anyone) still nervous about sade for setting up MBR disks, play with a spare memstick, setup a couple of slices, boot0cfg etc, allocate and delete slices and partitions. Jordan got that together 15years ago so noone would ever need to do those icky slice/partition maths again. My theory: few have been brave enough to dare mess with $deity's work, though it just needs some updates for modern realities, not abandonment. [ Polytropon, it's not 'obsolete' at all; still in 9 anyway. It'll be obsolete when there are no more MBR-only systems in use - say 7 years - OR when bsdinstall incorporates all the missing good sade(8) features, which requires it making a clear distinction between GPT and MBR and working accordingly, including cleaning up GPT stuff if MBR chosen. At 9.1-R anyway, it doesn't do it so well for MBR. Try installing over an existing desired slice partitioning, newfs'ing everything EXCEPT your valuable /home partition. Not for beginners, yet simple in sade(8) ] If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to get it to work? Except it likely will still be called ada1s3a, it should be no problem. Once boot0cfg(8) is working right, you can boot from any bootable slice; it 'knows' but doesn't care what (if any) OS is on any other slices. The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
Hi Ian, Thank you for all of your advices regarding my questions. I have been using FreeBSD for more than ten years, but I never heard of sade (sysadmins disk editor). That is one of the joyful things with running FreeBSD/Unix; there is always something earlier unheard of to explore. And, there is always more than one way to approach a problem. Thank you Ian, Conny On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Ian Smith wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 477, Issue 8, Message: 10 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com wrote: Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft language). Yes, best humour adherents of the Almighty Bill - keeps them sweet. Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager, when I installed the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR disks. bsdinstall seems fine for GPT, but its paradigm doesn't play so well with trying to do the sorts of manipulations you're talking about here. Why noone's tried to update sade(8) for GPT I don't understand; it's a far better, more forgiving interface, in my old-fashioned? view. (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID.) The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 instead. Is this possible to do? Yes and no. Using sysinstall|sade on my 9.1 laptop -- without setting sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 so it can't write any inadvertent changes to my disk :) -- in the fdisk screen you can delete the first two slices freeing their space for a new slice (or two) and you can then allocate s1 ok, but the existing s3 is still called s3. Would that be a problem? If you only created one slice there you'd have s1 and s3, with s2 and s4 marked as empty in the MBR shown by fdisk(8). MBR slice order need not follow disk allocations, eg s4 might point to an earlier disk region. sysinstall|sade has undo options for both fdisk and bsdlabel modules; it's easy to play with, no chance of damage - even with foot-shooting flag set, unless/until you commit to changes. If in doubt hit escape until it backs right out, nothing will be written. A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) If you're running 8.4 sysinstall as init, ie booted into the installer, and you've told it to install to s1, then it should set s1 as the active partition in the disk table and in boot0cfg's active slice table. I've never tried it with a second disk so I can't confirm that will all play nice, but you seem to have installed 3 versions ok before :) If not, you can run boot0cfg(8) anytime to set the active slice etc, so that shouldn't be a worry. Likely need to set debugflags=16 to do that on a running system also .. don't forget to set them back to 0 later! (For anyone) still nervous about sade for setting up MBR disks, play with a spare memstick, setup a couple of slices, boot0cfg etc, allocate and delete slices and partitions. Jordan got that together 15years ago so noone would ever need to do those icky slice/partition maths again. My theory: few have been brave enough to dare mess with $deity's work, though it just needs some updates for modern realities, not abandonment. [ Polytropon, it's not 'obsolete' at all; still in 9 anyway. It'll be obsolete when there are no more MBR-only systems in use - say 7 years - OR when bsdinstall incorporates all the missing good sade(8) features, which requires it making a clear distinction between GPT and MBR and working accordingly, including cleaning up GPT stuff if MBR chosen. At 9.1-R anyway, it doesn't do it so well for MBR. Try installing over an existing desired slice partitioning, newfs'ing everything EXCEPT your valuable /home partition. Not for beginners, yet simple in sade(8) ] If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
Hi Peter, I need much more disk space for the FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE, so I will need the space of the two 'old' slices. Thanks, Conny On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Peter Andreev wrote: Why wouldn't you simply update your 8.1 to 8.4? 2013/7/27 Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft language). Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager, when I installed the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID.) The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 instead. Is this possible to do? A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) If the answer to these questions is yes, then the next two questions arise. Can I mount ada1s2a (FreeBSD 8.3) from the newly installed FreeBSD 8.4 and edit my FreeBSD's 8.3-R /etc/fstab according to the new disk layout, and occasionally run FreeBSD 8.3 without problems? Or do I have to do more to get it to work? The idea behind this kind of 'reverse' disk layout of mine is to have FreeBSD 8.4 as my new default OS. And have FreeBSD 8.3 untouched for configuring FreeBSD 8.4 and booting into it when ever needed. If I can do this as described above, I will have plenty of space on the disk for the future and a new FreeBSD release. Thanks for your interest in my questions, Conny Andersson =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
Hi Warren and Polytropon, A few minutes ago I booted up from a FreeBSD-8.4-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to experience that it is sysinstall that is used in that release. Next, I did a 'dummy' custom installation. And, as I supposed sysinstall recognized disk ada0 as ad4 and disk ada1 as ad6. Then I aborted sysinstall and rebooted in to my FreeBSD 8.3-Release. Well, AHCI (Serial ATA Advanced Host Controller Interface driver) seems involved when identifying disks and slices. But, only on newer computers who has this option set to on in the BIOS. Maybe, bsdinstall in FreeBSD 9.0 and onwards can make use of AHCI directly. When I bought this workstation and installed FreeBSD I thought something was very much wrong with the wiring of the hardware/disks and I phoned Dell's support ... without being much wiser. My old Dell workstation on which I have used all the FreeBSD's from release 4.8 up to 8.0 I always got ad0 and ad1 as the disks in use. So, I had to search the Internet for an answer why my new computer numbered disks oddly. And I found your web page Warren (http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/ahci.html) and I also read the ahci man page. I also had to edit my /etc/fstab accordingly. My FreeBSD 8.3 /etc/fstab: # DeviceMountpoint FStype Options Dump Pass# /dev/ada1s3bnoneswapsw 0 0 /dev/ada1s3a/ ufs rw 1 1 /dev/ada1s3d/home ufs rw 2 2 /dev/acd0 /cdrom cd9660 ro,noauto0 0 proc/proc procfs rw 0 0 linproc /compat/linux/proc linprocfs rw 0 0 Apropos labels, I only have two filesystems (+swap) on each slice, as I only run a desktop workstation. I do that following Greg Lehey's advise in his book The Complete FreeBSD 4th Edition. More apropos labels: The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID. As far as I know, Dell only have the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface on its PowerEdge servers. (The reason why I want to merge two slices into one big ada1s1 is the need for more disk space for FreeBSD 8.4 and keep 8.3 as it is, but then as slice 2). Thank you, Conny On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Warren Block wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Polytropon wrote: On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST), Conny Andersson wrote: A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? I'm not sure I'm following you correctly. The sysinstall program is considered obsolete, the new system installer is bsdinstall. AFAIK, sysinstall is still used in FreeBSD 8.X, and bsdinstall does not have a boot manager option anyway. So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) Sorry, I don't understand this at all. AHCI should not be involved with identifying slices. That is a _good_ consideration! To make sure things work independently from boot-time recognition, use labels for the file system and then mount them by using the labels. Encode the OS version number in the labels, so it's even easier to deal with them. Use newfs -L on un-mounted partitions (you can do that from the install media). For existing filesystems, that would be tunefs -L. And agreed, filesystem labels make relocation much easier. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Conny Andersson wrote: Hi Warren and Polytropon, A few minutes ago I booted up from a FreeBSD-8.4-RELEASE-amd64-memstick.img to experience that it is sysinstall that is used in that release. Next, I did a 'dummy' custom installation. And, as I supposed sysinstall recognized disk ada0 as ad4 and disk ada1 as ad6. Then I aborted sysinstall and rebooted in to my FreeBSD 8.3-Release. Well, AHCI (Serial ATA Advanced Host Controller Interface driver) seems involved when identifying disks and slices. But, only on newer computers who has this option set to on in the BIOS. Maybe, bsdinstall in FreeBSD 9.0 and onwards can make use of AHCI directly. At some point, the old ad(4) driver was replaced with the new ada(4) driver. To provide backwards compatability, the old ad devices names are still available in /dev. I don't know when FreeBSD 8.X switched to the ada(4) driver. Neither ad nor ada devices require AHCI. If it is available, it gives a small but noticeable speed increase. Otherwise, it should make no difference. More apropos labels: The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID. As far as I know, Dell only have the Unified Extensible Firmware Interface on its PowerEdge servers. There is more than one kind of label. There are filesystem labels like we are talking about, there are GPT labels, there are generic labels. The ones being suggested are filesystem labels: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/labels.html FreeBSD supports GPT without UEFI. It doesn't matter in this case, since you already have MBR. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Jul 28, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Conny Andersson wrote: Hi Ian, Thank you for all of your advices regarding my questions. I have been using FreeBSD for more than ten years, but I never heard of sade (sysadmins disk editor). That is one of the joyful things with running FreeBSD/Unix; there is always something earlier unheard of to explore. And, there is always more than one way to approach a problem. In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. In-fact... sade was (up until recently in HEAD) actual code removed from sysinstall(8). NOTE: In HEAD, sade(8) is now a direct path to bsdinstall partedit I don't know what the long-term goals are for sade, but it's a nice 4-letter acronym that's a nice keystroke saver (at the very least). -- Devin On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Ian Smith wrote: In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 477, Issue 8, Message: 10 On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 19:39:30 +0200 (CEST) Conny Andersson atar...@telia.com wrote: Hi, I have a workstation with two factory installed hard disks. The first disk, ada0, is occupied by a Windows 7 Pro OS (mainly kept for the three year warranty of the workstation as Dell techs mostly speak the Microsoft language). Yes, best humour adherents of the Almighty Bill - keeps them sweet. Instead I have configured the BIOS to boot from the MBR on the second disk as I most of the time (99%) use FreeBSD. The MBR on ada1 was installed with sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager, when I installed the FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE. Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR disks. bsdinstall seems fine for GPT, but its paradigm doesn't play so well with trying to do the sorts of manipulations you're talking about here. Why noone's tried to update sade(8) for GPT I don't understand; it's a far better, more forgiving interface, in my old-fashioned? view. (The latest BIOS version 2.4.0 for Dell T1500 does not support UEFI/GPT/GUID.) The second disk ada1, now has three FreeBSD slices: 1) ada1s1 with FreeBSD 8.1-RELEASE 2) ada1s2 with FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE 3) ada1s3 with FreeBSD 8.3-RELEASE I want to install the new FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE on ada1s1 by overwriting the now existing two first slices. This means that ada1s3, must become ada1s2 instead. Is this possible to do? Yes and no. Using sysinstall|sade on my 9.1 laptop -- without setting sysctl kern.geom.debugflags=16 so it can't write any inadvertent changes to my disk :) -- in the fdisk screen you can delete the first two slices freeing their space for a new slice (or two) and you can then allocate s1 ok, but the existing s3 is still called s3. Would that be a problem? If you only created one slice there you'd have s1 and s3, with s2 and s4 marked as empty in the MBR shown by fdisk(8). MBR slice order need not follow disk allocations, eg s4 might point to an earlier disk region. sysinstall|sade has undo options for both fdisk and bsdlabel modules; it's easy to play with, no chance of damage - even with foot-shooting flag set, unless/until you commit to changes. If in doubt hit escape until it backs right out, nothing will be written. A very important question is if sysinstall's option Install the FreeBSD Boot Manager detects that I have a FreeBSD 8.3 and detect it as slice 2 on disk 1? So it becomes a boot option when I am rebooting? (Maybe the slice may come up as ad6s2, because AHCI in FreeBSD 8.4 isn't enabled at the time of the install.) If you're running 8.4 sysinstall as init, ie booted into the installer, and you've told it to install to s1, then it should set s1 as the active partition in the disk table and in boot0cfg's active slice table. I've never tried it with a second disk so I can't confirm that will all play nice, but you seem to have installed 3 versions ok before :) If not, you can run boot0cfg(8) anytime to set the active slice etc, so that shouldn't be a worry. Likely need to set debugflags=16 to do that on a running system also .. don't forget to set them back to 0 later! (For anyone) still nervous about sade for setting up MBR disks, play with a spare memstick, setup a couple of slices, boot0cfg etc, allocate and delete slices and partitions. Jordan got that together 15years ago so noone would ever need to do those icky slice/partition maths again. My theory: few have been brave enough to dare mess with $deity's work, though it just needs some updates for modern realities, not abandonment. [ Polytropon, it's not 'obsolete' at all; still in 9 anyway. It'll be obsolete when there are no more MBR-only systems in use - say 7 years - OR when bsdinstall incorporates all the missing good sade(8) features, which requires it making a clear distinction between GPT and MBR and working accordingly, including
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. % which sade /usr/sbin/sade System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think sade has been introduced in a v8 version of FreeBSD. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
Hi Devin, Apropos sade (sysadmins disk editor). I have it at /usr/sbin/sade and I am running a FreeBSD 8.3. I also mounted FreeBSD 8.1 and FreeBSD 8.2 and found sade at /usr/sbin/ even in these older FreeBSDs. Regards, Conny On Sun, 28 Jul 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. In-fact... sade was (up until recently in HEAD) actual code removed from sysinstall(8). NOTE: In HEAD, sade(8) is now a direct path to bsdinstall partedit I don't know what the long-term goals are for sade, but it's a nice 4-letter acronym that's a nice keystroke saver (at the very least). -- Devin On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Ian Smith wrote: --- --- --- Right. sysinstall(8) - or at least the fdisk and bsdlabel modules that constitute sade(8) - remains the only safe and sane way to handle MBR disks. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slices and the Boot Manager
On 29/07/2013 08:23, Polytropon wrote: On Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:23:38 +, Teske, Devin wrote: In this case, sade is (or was) a direct by-product of the death of sysinstall(8). It only exists in 9 or higher. % which sade /usr/sbin/sade System is FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE of August 2011. I think sade has been introduced in a v8 version of FreeBSD. Or earlier. On 9.1 man sade says -- HISTORY This version of sade first appeared in FreeBSD 6.3. The code is extracted from the sysinstall(8) utility. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD website is not up to date
Le Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:27:38 +0200, David Demelier demelier.da...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi, There is a problem between : http://www.freebsd.org/where.html and http://www.freebsd.org/fr/where.html On the second one, 9.1-RELEASE is available for ia64 while it's not for the english version. Sorry if this is not the best lists for that question. Hi David, the good list for this is freebsd-...@freebsd.org Regards ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 8.2 as wifi client
Laszlo Danielisz laszlo_daniel...@yahoo.com wrote: Yesterday I've received a usb wifi card. I've successfully connected to my home network with wpa-psk but I couldn't make it to connect via boot. [...] I've also added the following lines to my rc.conf: wlans_run0=wlan0 wpa_supplicant_enable=YES ifconfig_wlan0=192.168.1.201 The previous line seems to be missing the 'WPA' attribute: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-wireless.html#network-wireless-wpa-wpa-psk Fabian signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD software installation problems
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 00:32:28 +0800 (CST) chenjunbing1234 chenjunbing1...@126.com wrote: questi...@freebsd.org Iknowvery littleEnglish, and Iwant to learnfreebsd,I was underftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/zh_CN.GB2312/books/handbook/above tutorialto installand preparation, andmeta lot of problems,Imade athreehttp://bbs.chinaunix.net/forum-5-1.htmlforumpostingsentitled:novicestep by stepinstallFreeBSD-9.0-RELEASE,not many peopleto helpMymainproblemis the softwareinstalled,I hopeto get your help. What problems did you met? I don't understand chinese, sorry. What do you try to install? The page http://bbs.chinaunix.net/forum-5-1.htmlforumpostingsentitled:novice doesn't exist. Perhaps PC-BSD may help you to install it. --- --- Eduardo Morras emorr...@yahoo.es ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 fails to boot from CD on Notebook
Hi On Fri, 12 Jul 2013 14:56:12 +0200 Martin Siebel msie...@gmx.de wrote: Any ideas about BIOS settings I may change? find out how how the CD drive is connected and then play with the settings fir this interface Erich I burnt the CD twice by the way, with different burning software, to avoid damaged or incomplete disc. Thanks in advance! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 fails to boot from CD on Notebook
seems that some notebooks the bios loads part of the boot from the HD first before trying to boot from the CD, so when the CD boots, the system expects some windows stuff, when it sees FreeBSD, it reboots... Solution I found: 1) get/buy another HD for notebook (here a 320GB costs U$100) 2) make sure the HD is NOT INITIALIZED (blank) 3) install the FreeBSD in the HD in a desktop machine that for sure boots FreeBSD 4) open the notebook, install the FreeBSD HD in the notebook, usually a door under the notebook 5) boot from the HD Here for me it worked.. Beware that some notebooks you may void warranty if you install another OS than windows... that is why I still have the original HD with windows8 inside.. If there is a problem with the notebook, I can always replace the original HD and return it to factory.. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD on Asus F70SL
On Jul 10, 2013 12:55 PM, Martin Siebel msie...@gmx.de wrote: Hello! I recently tried (and failed) installing FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE on my Asus F70SL Notebook. I already created a thread in the official FreeBSD boards but so far no one could help me out with my problem. Since I really want to use FreeBSD with my Notebook I am looking forward to get the neccessary information here. The topic in the FreeBSD boards can be found here: https://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=40724 Thanks in advance! Sincerely, Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Hi Martin, Since you are creating the usb boot on an MS system, what happens when you plug the dongle into the machine while running MS? If you see the iso file, that could be the problem. Also %always% make sure to use the Safe Eject feature before removing the dongle. Its possible to receive a Finished message when a copy operation is still in progress Waitman Gobble San Jose California ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:43:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk layout when it finds GPT. Does this mean GPT is not supported by this system? I thought GPT is supposed to replace MBR and UEFI is the future. Perhaps there is something in UEFI that can be tweaked to make it work with GPT? -Simon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Sat, 6 Jul 2013, Simon wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013 19:43:02 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wrote: I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk layout when it finds GPT. Does this mean GPT is not supported by this system? Kind of the opposite: UEFI expects GPT, but also expects a particular set of partitions. And then there's the SecureBoot situation. I thought GPT is supposed to replace MBR and UEFI is the future. Perhaps there is something in UEFI that can be tweaked to make it work with GPT? Yes. There should be some sort of legacy boot. In UEFI mode, SecureBoot can be disabled, so with the correct partition layout FreeBSD should boot even in UEFI (untested, I do not yet have a UEFI system). ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: I bought an HP Pavilion p7-1597c [1] system last week. It is Intel Core i5-3330, with a Seagate 1.5 TB SATA drive and 12 GB of memory, shipped with Windows 8. I have disabled Secure Boot and enabled Legacy device booting. That says the disk is GPT partitioned for UEFI. I am able to complete the install of FreeBSD 9.1/amd64 from the CD without any problems. However, when I attempt to boot, it doesn't. Originally I was trying to dual boot with Win 8, but eventually I rendered Win8 unbootable. So, now I have given FreeBSD the whole disk. I have done the standard install. I found instructions to have the install use MBR (instead of GPT), but that also doesn't work. In what way? After an install, I get to the boot0 (the F1 boot menu thing) screen, but when it tries to boot, it prints # and doesn't boot. When trying to share the disk with Windows, mostly I'd get boot errors about not having a bootable device (ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.). boot0 is the multi-boot loader. I'm reasonably sure it will not work on a GPT disk. GPT needs the PMBR loader. This should be correctable by using the Shell option of the install disk: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 The installer would write that by default on a blank disk. I don't know what it does when partitions are added to a GPT disk. For that matter, I'm not sure how you got boot0 on there. In the BIOS setting, I've tried both IDE and AHCI in Storage Options - SATA emulation. AHCI is preferred and will go a little bit faster, but either will work. PC-BSD 9.1 has the same results. It installs fine, but resets after selecting something at the boot0 prompt. boot0 strikes again. AFAIK, the only option for multi-boot on GPT disks is EasyBCD or grub (untested). But really, a VM is far preferable to multi-boot for many situations. FreeBSD 8.4 wouldn't install because the installer didn't have device node for /dev/ad4s1b in /dev in order to create the filesystems. That sounds familiar, but I can't find notes on solving it. I would recommend 9.x anyway. If there is nothing on the disk to lose, I would start from scratch by going to the shell from the installer: # gpart destroy -F ada0 Return to the installer, and it should find the entire disk unpartitioned. If you really want to multi-boot, reinstall Windows 8. Leave part of the disk unpartitioned for FreeBSD. Install EasyBCD in Windows (https://neosmart.net/EasyBCD/) and install FreeBSD in a new GPT partition, and maybe it will be easy. I have not tried a multi-boot install with Windows 8 or GPT/EFI, so can't really say what it will take. If you do that, take notes and post them somewhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your trying to help me. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: I bought an HP Pavilion p7-1597c [1] system last week. It is Intel Core i5-3330, with a Seagate 1.5 TB SATA drive and 12 GB of memory, shipped with Windows 8. [...] I am able to complete the install of FreeBSD 9.1/amd64 from the CD without any problems. However, when I attempt to boot, it doesn't. [...] After an install, I get to the boot0 (the F1 boot menu thing) screen, but when it tries to boot, it prints # and doesn't boot. When trying to share the disk with Windows, mostly I'd get boot errors about not having a bootable device (ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.). boot0 is the multi-boot loader. I'm reasonably sure it will not work on a GPT disk. GPT needs the PMBR loader. This should be correctable by using the Shell option of the install disk: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 The installer would write that by default on a blank disk. I don't know what it does when partitions are added to a GPT disk. For that matter, I'm not sure how you got boot0 on there. boot0 must have been installed when I did MBR partitioning, and/or PCBSD did it? If there is nothing on the disk to lose, I would start from scratch by going to the shell from the installer: # gpart destroy -F ada0 Return to the installer, and it should find the entire disk unpartitioned. I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. I booted the install CD again, and executed: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 and rebooted. I got the same error: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. If you really want to multi-boot, reinstall Windows 8. The Windows ship has sailed -- the system didn't come with media, and the install has been removed. So, I'm committed. :) Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks, James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your trying to help me. On Fri, Jul 5, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James E. Pace wrote: I bought an HP Pavilion p7-1597c [1] system last week. It is Intel Core i5-3330, with a Seagate 1.5 TB SATA drive and 12 GB of memory, shipped with Windows 8. [...] I am able to complete the install of FreeBSD 9.1/amd64 from the CD without any problems. However, when I attempt to boot, it doesn't. [...] After an install, I get to the boot0 (the F1 boot menu thing) screen, but when it tries to boot, it prints # and doesn't boot. When trying to share the disk with Windows, mostly I'd get boot errors about not having a bootable device (ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed.). boot0 is the multi-boot loader. I'm reasonably sure it will not work on a GPT disk. GPT needs the PMBR loader. This should be correctable by using the Shell option of the install disk: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 The installer would write that by default on a blank disk. I don't know what it does when partitions are added to a GPT disk. For that matter, I'm not sure how you got boot0 on there. boot0 must have been installed when I did MBR partitioning, and/or PCBSD did it? If there is nothing on the disk to lose, I would start from scratch by going to the shell from the installer: # gpart destroy -F ada0 Return to the installer, and it should find the entire disk unpartitioned. I booted the 9.1 install CD, executed gpart destroy -F ada0, and installed. After completing the install, boot fails with: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. That is a BIOS error, probably due to UEFI expecting a certain disk layout when it finds GPT. I booted the install CD again, and executed: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ada0 and rebooted. I got the same error: ERROR: No boot disk has been detected or the disk has failed. If you really want to multi-boot, reinstall Windows 8. The Windows ship has sailed -- the system didn't come with media, and the install has been removed. So, I'm committed. :) Always image the disk that comes with the machine. I like to do that before the first boot. Clonezilla works well for that. Something to remember for next time, anyway. You may be able to get Windows reinstall media from HP. Do you have any other suggestions? Use 'gpart destroy' again, and set up an MBR partitioning scheme: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=149210postcount=13 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
You, sir, are a wizard. You magical incantations worked, and I now have a bootable FreeBSD 9.1 system. Use 'gpart destroy' again, and set up an MBR partitioning scheme: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=149210postcount=13 I really, really appreciate your help. James ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD 9.1 won't boot after install
On Fri, 5 Jul 2013, James Pace wrote: You, sir, are a wizard. You magical incantations worked, and I now have a bootable FreeBSD 9.1 system. ? ? Use 'gpart destroy' again, and set up an MBR partitioning scheme: http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=149210postcount=13 I really, really appreciate your help. Excellent! For future reference, I have an article on disk setup here: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html Other FreeBSD articles that you may find useful: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/index.html___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Appliance Questions
On 06/28/2013 05:27 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I am working on an NAS appliance built on FreeSBD. Several questions: - The vendor has rebranded everything so uname isn't helping me determine what exact branch of FreeBSD they used. Is there another canonical way to figure this out? - For any reasonably recent version of FBSD, is it likely that the Linux emulation will work correctly or are there certain versions of FreeBSD that do this better than others? Thanks, Oh one more thing - does anyone have experience - good or bad - with installing and running the Tivoli TSM Client software under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Appliance Questions
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:27 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I am working on an NAS appliance built on FreeSBD. Several questions: - The vendor has rebranded everything so uname isn't helping me determine what exact branch of FreeBSD they used. Is there another canonical way to figure this out? - For any reasonably recent version of FBSD, is it likely that the Linux emulation will work correctly or are there certain versions of FreeBSD that do this better than others? Thanks, Oh one more thing - does anyone have experience - good or bad - with installing and running the Tivoli TSM Client software under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? would help to know the manufacturer, might be able to help nail down the version of the OS -- --**--** Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Appliance Questions
On 06/28/2013 05:31 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com mailto:tun...@tundraware.com wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:27 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I am working on an NAS appliance built on FreeSBD. Several questions: - The vendor has rebranded everything so uname isn't helping me determine what exact branch of FreeBSD they used. Is there another canonical way to figure this out? - For any reasonably recent version of FBSD, is it likely that the Linux emulation will work correctly or are there certain versions of FreeBSD that do this better than others? Thanks, Oh one more thing - does anyone have experience - good or bad - with installing and running the Tivoli TSM Client software under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? would help to know the manufacturer, might be able to help nail down the version of the OS It is an EMC/Isolon but I'm not sure which model. Still looking into it. -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Appliance Questions
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:31 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.commailto: tun...@tundraware.com** wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:27 PM, Tim Daneliuk wrote: I am working on an NAS appliance built on FreeSBD. Several questions: - The vendor has rebranded everything so uname isn't helping me determine what exact branch of FreeBSD they used. Is there another canonical way to figure this out? - For any reasonably recent version of FBSD, is it likely that the Linux emulation will work correctly or are there certain versions of FreeBSD that do this better than others? Thanks, Oh one more thing - does anyone have experience - good or bad - with installing and running the Tivoli TSM Client software under the FreeBSD Linux emulation? would help to know the manufacturer, might be able to help nail down the version of the OS It is an EMC/Isolon but I'm not sure which model. Still looking into it. research shows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneFS_distributed_file_system -- --**--** Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Appliance Questions
On 06/28/2013 05:46 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: research shows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneFS_distributed_file_system D'oh. I looked it up under Isolon but not OneFS. -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD Appliance Questions
Hi. Have some experience with isilon NL and ssd iseries. Onefs 6.5 . Dont go mucking around like you are on a normal bsd system. It doesnt work that way. They have a system which is similar to cfengine which overwrites changes so you need to do things their way not the bsd way. Their support is crap since emc purchase. Threw some avere cacheing in front of our silos but still no plans on upgrading.. On Jun 28, 2013 5:59 PM, Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com wrote: On 06/28/2013 05:46 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: research shows http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/** OneFS_distributed_file_systemhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OneFS_distributed_file_system D'oh. I looked it up under Isolon but not OneFS. -- --**--** Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ __**_ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/**mailman/listinfo/freebsd-**questionshttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-** unsubscr...@freebsd.org freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD:: How to set VLAN priority?
On Jun 26, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Alex Liptsin al...@mellanox.com wrote: Hello. I work with FreeBSD 9.1 RELEASE. I had configured VLANs on my server, but I can't find a way to configure VLAN priority. How can I do it? Thanks. ??? vlan priority as in… ? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD:: How to set VLAN priority?
Alex Liptsin wrote this message on Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:54 +: I work with FreeBSD 9.1 RELEASE. I had configured VLANs on my server, but I can't find a way to configure VLAN priority. How can I do it? Looks like you can't w/ the default VLAN code: BUGS No 802.1Q features except VLAN tagging are implemented. You could probably implement it w/ ng_patch, but that would also mean you'd lose the feature of the card adding the VLAN tag for you... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD:: How to set VLAN priority?
This is a patch originially written from rwatson@ iirc. https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense-tools/blob/master/patches/RELENG_10_0/pf_802.1p.diff Remove the pf(4) craft and it should work for you. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 6:27 PM, John-Mark Gurney j...@funkthat.com wrote: Alex Liptsin wrote this message on Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:54 +: I work with FreeBSD 9.1 RELEASE. I had configured VLANs on my server, but I can't find a way to configure VLAN priority. How can I do it? Looks like you can't w/ the default VLAN code: BUGS No 802.1Q features except VLAN tagging are implemented. You could probably implement it w/ ng_patch, but that would also mean you'd lose the feature of the card adding the VLAN tag for you... -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 415 225 5579 All that I will do, has been done, All that I have, has not. ___ freebsd-...@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-net-unsubscr...@freebsd.org -- Ermal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: freebsd-update percentage indicators - what are they, why are they so random?
Fetching 1 metadata files... 70.5% done. 70.5% 70.5% 74.2% 74.2% 81.7% 81.7% 70.5% I think this is a result of having -v in my GZIP environment variable. I always forget about my GZIP and BZIP2 variables. I should've known. So, never mind about that. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slice/partiton setup question
There have been some excellent responses, and I just wanted to add a quick point: Virtual machines with VirtualBox work very well and avoid the problem of trying to make compatible partition layouts. Enable sshd on FreeBSD and get to the files with rsync or scp or some FUSE module on the other computer. Besides avoiding the whole problem of mixed partition schemes, it means both operating systems can run at the same time. The host computer can be used to look up things on the web about setting up the VM guest, while the guest is actually running. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slice/partiton setup question
2013. június 19. 19:41 napon Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com írta: There have been some excellent responses, and I just wanted to add a quick point: Virtual machines with VirtualBox work very well and avoid the problem of trying to make compatible partition layouts. Enable sshd on FreeBSD and get to the files with rsync or scp or some FUSE module on the other computer. Thank you all for your answers, detailed explanations and document links. I am now digesting what I've read and probably will try different setups on an empty hard disk. Thanks again, Istvan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slice/partiton setup question
On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Istvan Gabor suseuse...@lajt.hu wrote: ... How can I do this in FreeBSD? Can I have slices with only one partition occupying the whole slice? Can I do something like the following: /dev/ad0s1a / /dev/ad0s2e /home /dev/ad0s3e /usr/local /dev/ad0s5b swap /dev/ad0s6e /home/user1 /dev/ad0s7e /home/user2 etc. where the partitions (a, e, b) occupy the whole slice where they reside on? Why bother with partitions if you're going to use the whole slice? Why bother with slices if you won't run out of partitions? - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: FreeBSD slice/partiton setup question
2013. június 18. 19:49 napon Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com írta: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Istvan Gabor suseuse...@lajt.hu wrote: ... How can I do this in FreeBSD? Can I have slices with only one partition occupying the whole slice? Can I do something like the following: /dev/ad0s1a / /dev/ad0s2e /home /dev/ad0s3e /usr/local /dev/ad0s5b swap /dev/ad0s6e /home/user1 /dev/ad0s7e /home/user2 etc. where the partitions (a, e, b) occupy the whole slice where they reside on? Thanks, but I don't understand your answer. I am puzzled a little bit. My understanding based on the FreeBSD handbook is that slices in FreeBSD are the partitions in linux. And that on one slice (linux partition) FreeBSD has (or can have?) several partitions. These are labeled as letters: a for root partition, b for swap, c for the whole slice, and e for a regular non-root partition. Why bother with partitions if you're going to use the whole slice? Are you saying that one can use/mount a whole slice without adding partitions to it? For example /dev/ada0s1 could be the root partition? Why bother with slices if you won't run out of partitions? Do you mean putting all partitions on one big slice? I would like to be able to mount different partitions independently from other OS, eg. from linux. As far as I know linux cannot mount FreeBSD partitions, only the whole slice. If one slice has several partitions, one single partition can not be mounted from linux. Could you please confirm if my understanding is correct, or explain a little bit more detailed what you meant? Thanks, Istvan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Re: FreeBSD slice/partiton setup question
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Jun 18 13:47:50 2013 Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_FreeBSD_slice/partiton_setup_?= =?UTF-8?Q?question?= From: =?UTF-8?Q?Istvan_Gabor?= suseuse...@lajt.hu To: =?UTF-8?Q?FreeBSD_Questions?=freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Sierchio?=ku...@tenebras.com, =?UTF-8?Q?Michael_Sierchio?=ku...@tenebras.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:48:20 +0200 2013. jA nius 18. 19:49 napon Michael Sierchio ku...@tenebras.com A- rta: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Istvan Gabor suseuse...@lajt.hu wrote: ... How can I do this in FreeBSD? Can I have slices with only one partition occupying the whole slice? Can I do something like the following: /dev/ad0s1a / /dev/ad0s2e /home /dev/ad0s3e /usr/local /dev/ad0s5b swap /dev/ad0s6e /home/user1 /dev/ad0s7e /home/user2 etc. where the partitions (a, e, b) occupy the whole slice where they reside on? Thanks, but I don't understand your answer. I am puzzled a little bit. My understanding based on the FreeBSD handbook is that slices in FreeBSD are the partitions in linux. And that on one slice (linux partition) FreeBSD has (or can have?) several partitions. These are labeled as letters: a for root partition, b for swap, c for the whole slice, and e for a regular non-root partition. The terminology gets confusing. 'slices' in FreeBSD, and most other 'real' unix systems, correspond to MSDOS/Windows 'partitions', on hardware that supports the MSDOS partitioning scheme.. Unix has its own layer of disk subdivision, referred to here as 'BSD partitioning' (to make clear it is not the same as Microsoft's 'fdisk' functionality, as well. In the 'classical' form this gives the (up to 8) 'letter-named' pieces that a disk may be carved into. You can use 'slices', giving filesystem names, after 'BSD partitioning', like '/dev/ad4s0a', or you can omit 'slice' creation, and do only a 'BSD partioning scheme, giving device names like /dev/ad4a. In the 'BSD partitioning' scheme, letter 'c' is reserved for the entire disk, but SHOULD NOT ever be used directly. One can create another 'BSD partition' (using the letter of ones choice) that also spans the entire disk. There is no requirement to have more than one 'usable' partition on the disk. Why bother with partitions if you're going to use the whole slice? Are you saying that one can use/mount a whole slice without adding partitions to it? For example /dev/ada0s1 could be the root partition? Why bother with slices if you won't run out of partitions? Do you mean putting all partitions on one big slice? I would like to be able to mount different partitions independently from other OS, eg. from linux. As far as I know linux cannot mount FreeBSD partitions, only the whole slice. If one slice has several partitions, one single partition can not be mounted from linux. A full discussion gets 'messy'. there are lots of variations that complicate things -- including a single 'logical volume' with multiple physical disks (e.g. RAID), a single physical disk with multiple 'logical drives' on it (think 'fdisk' partitioning), *AND* the type of filesystem in use on the logical volume/drive. *ASSUMING* the 'Berkeley fast filesystem' (the traditional/classical system choice, also known as 'UFS'), a logical volume/drive must have a BSD 'volume label' on it, which allows subdividing that logical volume/drive into (up to) 8 letter-names parts. Each such 'part' holds a separate filesystem, and must be 'mounted', _individually_, before files on that filesystem can be acessed. The overall logic is similar for other filesystem types, however the mechanical details may be quite different. Could you please confirm if my understanding is correct, or explain a little bit more detailed what you meant? If you want a -single- filesystem to occupy an entire physical disk you can: a) use a 'dangerously dedicated' drive -- one with no 'fdisk' partitioning and only a BSD volume label, and create a single 'BSD partition' -- giving a device like '/dev/ad4h' b) creat a single 'fdisk' primary partition spanning the entire drive and put a BSD volume label on the primary partition, with only a single 'BSD partition' -- giving a device like '/dev/ad4s0h' c) do 'something similar' using a different partitioning scheme -- e.g. 'gpart' -- instead of 'bsdlabel'. d) do 'something similar' using a different type of filesystem -- e.g. 'ZFS' or 'EXT3' (beware: EXT3 is _not_ well-supported under FreeBSD, and there are 'good reasons' _not_ to use any of the EXT* filesystem types if one values the integrity of ones data in the event of 'unexpected' events. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to
Re: Re: FreeBSD slice/partiton setup question
You can simply newfs the device itself, without a volume label, slice, or partition. That's the normal thing to do with malloc devices, or additional disks. If the disk doesn't require a boot loader, isn't the root device, etc. that may be the best thing to do. Your caution about EXT* is spot-in - adequate tools exist for EXT2FS, but it's still problematic. - M ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
