On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Bruce Cran wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 +
> "Thomas Mueller" wrote:
>
>> > The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has
>> > USB so should install using that instead of floppies.
>>
>> Not true on a very old computer (especially U
On Dec 8, 2010, at 9:07 PM, Polytropon wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:11 +1000, Da Rock
> wrote:
>> On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
>>> On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, "Julian H. Stacey"
>>> wrote:
>>>
My comments/ wish list
- One text mode (non bitmap graphical) b
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:48:11 +1000, Da Rock
wrote:
> On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
> > On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, "Julian H. Stacey"
> > wrote:
> >
> >> My comments/ wish list
> >> - One text mode (non bitmap graphical) browser:
> >> /usr/ports/www/lynx
> >>
On 12/08/10 21:27, Bruce Cran wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 +
"Thomas Mueller" wrote:
The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has
USB so should install using that instead of floppies.
Not true on a very old computer (especially USB)
That's w
On 12/08/10 11:49, Chris Hill wrote:
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
[ snip ]
- There are small clones of standard vi, with executables
no larger than ee, could replace ee.
I think ee is actually a good choice for this application. vi can be a
little frustrating for those
On 12/08/10 11:26, Polytropon wrote:
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
My comments/ wish list
- One text mode (non bitmap graphical) browser:/usr/ports/www/lynx
The lynx browser, due to its "special" key handling, does not
appeal to novice users.
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 11:14:22 +
"Thomas Mueller" wrote:
> > The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has
> > USB so should install using that instead of floppies.
>
> Not true on a very old computer (especially USB)
That's why I said "the argument", implying that it's s
> It's easy enough to find error-free floppy disks if you don't mind
> paying for them: http://www.amazon.co.uk/b?ie=UTF8&node=430460031 :)
> Bruce Cran
Are you sure they're error-free? I think most users would prefer USB sticks.
> The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone
Polytropon wrote:
To: "Julian H. Stacey"
I added back lost
Cc: questi...@freebsd.org
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 10:46:29 +0100, "Julian H. Stacey"
> wrote:
> > > Allow me a side question, but... what's wrong with ee? (Don't
> > > get me wrong, I've been a long-term vi user myself.)
Bruce Cran wrote:
> On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100
> "Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
>
> > FreeBSD has no instal...@freebsd.org list. Should it ? Only a few
> > people tend to work on & know the constraints of the installer,
> > many people over years have have made suggestions & comments, would
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 09:04:16 +, Bruce Cran wrote:
> The argument is normally that even without a CD drive everyone has USB
> so should install using that instead of floppies.
That's not an argument, that's a dogma. :-)
Especially when you want to use AT style hardware, maybe
older laptops tha
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010 01:58:04 +0100
Polytropon wrote:
> An example from my own practical use: I wanted to install
> FreeBSD 4 on a laptop that didn't have network or CD-ROM.
> I chose to boot from floppy, and then started the install
> process via parallel cable (printer port) from a second
> syste
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
[ snip ]
- There are small clones of standard vi, with executables
no larger than ee, could replace ee.
I think ee is actually a good choice for this application. vi can be a
little frustrating for those who rarely use it, and it's downright
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100, "Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
> My comments/ wish list
> - One text mode (non bitmap graphical) browser: /usr/ports/www/lynx
The lynx browser, due to its "special" key handling, does not
appeal to novice users. NO text mode browser gives a "first
sight effect
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:29:09 +, "Thomas Mueller"
wrote:
> I guess FreeBSD installation from floppies is no longer
> supported because of the difficulty of fitting the kernel?
I think so, too. My "interest" is to be able to boot a
system that does not boot from CD or via LAN. In this
case, st
On Wed, 08 Dec 2010 00:09:24 +0100
"Julian H. Stacey" wrote:
> FreeBSD has no instal...@freebsd.org list. Should it ? Only a few
> people tend to work on & know the constraints of the installer,
> many people over years have have made suggestions & comments, would
> it be more efficient if FAQs
Bruce Cran wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:29:09AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> > While installation and update via web browser makes sense as an option, it
> > must not be the only option. What if the user starts with a blank hard
> > drive, nothing installed? Then one needs to be able t
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 11:29:09 +
"Thomas Mueller" wrote:
> Otherwise, it would be theoretically possible to install FreeBSD from
> a lot of floppies, but finding sufficient errorfree floppies would be
> practically impossible. I remember I had a substantial percentage of
> bad floppies when I
On Tue, Dec 07, 2010 at 11:29:09AM +, Thomas Mueller wrote:
> While installation and update via web browser makes sense as an option, it
> must not be the only option. What if the user starts with a blank hard
> drive, nothing installed? Then one needs to be able to install from CD, DVD
>
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:31:26 +, Bruce Cran wrote:
> > There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
> > PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and
> > people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do
> > installations via a web browse
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:13:19 +0100
Polytropon wrote:
> Does this imply that the installation requires running X
> plus a web browser, or a "hard to use" text mode web browser?
> Or is this intended to be used for remote installation only?
> Will the installer therefore be unusable for specific
> s
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010 10:31:26 +, Bruce Cran wrote:
> There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
> PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and
> people are working on a web interface frontend to allow people to do
> installations via a web browser.
Does
On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 10:09:00 +
"Thomas Mueller" wrote:
> Is there any intent to modify, hopefully improve, the installer
> program (sysinstall) for FreeBSD-9.0?
There's a plan to replace sysinstall with pc-sysinstall, the
PCBSD installer in 9.0. Currently the backend has been committed and
p
Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> [ -current CC dropped ]
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote:
>> I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a
>> barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now
>> done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitio
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> [ -current CC dropped ]
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote:
> > I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a
> > barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now
> > done via gpart and the limit
On Nov 9, 2009, at 12:51 AM, O. Hartmann wrote:
Hello.
I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on
a barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now
done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions
from a through h except b and c
[ -current CC dropped ]
On Mon, 9 Nov 2009, O. Hartmann wrote:
> I try to install a fresh new FreeBSD 8.0-RC2 (from snapshot-DVD) on a
> barndnew harddrive. As far as I recall partitioning a disk is now
> done via gpart and the limitation of having only 8 (-2) partitions
> from a through h except b
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Boudjema wrote:
Bonjour,
Please excuses,
my english is bad, so i will explain in french my problem if this is not
understood;
i have a problem to install x window. my hope is to install kde. but without
x, i am stopped; when i do pkg_add -r xorg, the response is: xorg 6.9
On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 00:27:06 +0200
Boudjema <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bonjour,
>
> Please excuses,
> my english is bad, so i will explain in french my problem if this is
> not understood;
> i have a problem to install x window. my hope is to install kde. but
> without x, i am stopped; when i
"Efren Bravo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I think that the problems is in fBSD that it doesn't able to communicate
> with IDE banks, it raise the errors:
...
> if the motherboard's controller isn't supported by fBSD, what could I do,
> should I send to garbage the motherboard?
If you're c
On Oct 12, 2004, at 6:08 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote
Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!!
jerry
James Skinner wrote:
>Sorry about that (not really), but Mac Mail places the reply at the top.
>Maybe I should use a Leet mail prog like yourself.
Well, the folks at Apple can
Well this thread had been going on pretty long. Some people say for
the BSD installer, some throw out flames at it. My personal opinion
is, people who want to install and use BSD are expected to rad th
documentation and as far as I can remember, the handbook is pretty
descriptive about explaining t
Sorry about that (not really), but Mac Mail places the reply at the
top. Maybe I should use a Leet mail prog like yourself.
On Oct 12, 2004, at 6:08 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote:
Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!!
jerry
Personally, I think the FreeBSD install is inc
At 15:14 10/12/2004, Newton wrote:
>Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested in
>start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. My
>experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows and
>Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, p
* Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [1009 23:09]:
> >
>
> Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!!
>
> jerry
Can we all shut up about top or bottom postings now please?
We know how everybody feels about it, because they've told us
a dozen times.
Since we're all p
>
Geez, another top poster who mangles the flow of the thread!!
jerry
> Personally, I think the FreeBSD install is incredibly simple. It really
> could not be easier, but if you want one that is, try DragonFlyBSD. The
> install of that is very, very simple, but you may run into issues wit
Personally, I think the FreeBSD install is incredibly simple. It really
could not be easier, but if you want one that is, try DragonFlyBSD. The
install of that is very, very simple, but you may run into issues with
certain software packages.
Jamie
On Oct 12, 2004, at 5:45 PM, Jerry McAllister w
>
> Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested in
> start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on. My
> experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows and
> Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, partitions, kde, window maker
> -Original Message-
> From: Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2004 10:15 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Installer
>
>
> Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really
> interested in
> start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different vers
this, I'll never tried FreeBSD again !
Hopefully...
Sincerely, Newton - Curitiba - Brazil
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Newton wrote:
Dear Friends : I'm a Linux user since 1,999 and I'm really interested
in start FreeBSD. OK, it's a new system, different versions and so on.
My experience with computers started with Basic, after MS-DOS, Windows
and Linux. When I tried Linux, 5 years-ago, partitions, kde, window
m
On Wednesday 19 May 2004 11:57 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone there please show/driect/point out where the sysinstall
> source is located at? I have the need to edit it and see if its
> possible for me to work on it.
>
> I am using CVS via Internet.
>
/usr/src/release/sysinstal
louis salonia wrote:
i have attempted to install freebsd and from a newbies
point of view it is not an easy task. i would love to
see an installer like fedora core (anaconda) or suse
YAST. i thing this would benefit the OS and new users.
The libh project was started primarily for this purpose:
http
On Sun, Feb 09, 2003 at 01:20:52AM -0500, northern snowfall wrote:
> >well, i put my drive on the sym controller (since it's not seeing my aic7x
> >chips) and now when i starts downloading and extracting the binary sets it
> >stops and says there's no space. this is obviously wrong, since just befo
I have newfs bug is, but, I've had
the same occurance. However, it doesn't seem to *do* anything...
Control+<- flip err:
.s/I have/I don't know what the cause of the/
Don
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well, i put my drive on the sym controller (since it's not seeing my aic7x
chips) and now when i starts downloading and extracting the binary sets it
stops and says there's no space. this is obviously wrong, since just before
that it does a newfs on an almost 9gig slice.
has anyone else had this
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