Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-31 Thread Micah

Wee-Sern Soo wrote:

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.1.html#issues

It's a known issue.  Need to run as privileged user on all platforms, 
the first time.



Yuan Jue wrote the following on 31/03/2006 4:46 PM:

On Friday 31 March 2006 09:18, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
 

This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before
and what to try.

Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and
start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working
fine.




works for me too. many thanks :)

  


A workaround that the port could use is given on that page

If Firefox 1.5.0.1 is installed on a multi-user system in a location 
which is not writable by users, Firefox must be run once by a privileged 
user. If this is not desirable, an empty file must be created in the 
following directory: 
install-directory/extensions/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/chrome.manifest


Later,
Micah
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3/31/06, Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wee-Sern Soo wrote:
  http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.1.html#issues
 
  It's a known issue.  Need to run as privileged user on all platforms,
  the first time.
 
 
  Yuan Jue wrote the following on 31/03/2006 4:46 PM:
  On Friday 31 March 2006 09:18, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
 
  This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before
  and what to try.
 
  Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and
  start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working
  fine.
 
 
 
  works for me too. many thanks :)
 
 

 A workaround that the port could use is given on that page

 If Firefox 1.5.0.1 is installed on a multi-user system in a location
 which is not writable by users, Firefox must be run once by a privileged
 user. If this is not desirable, an empty file must be created in the
 following directory:
 install-directory/extensions/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/chrome.manifest


This sort of bizzare need to elevate general awareness
and spiritual enlightenment in the browser using
public is what drove me away from winders in the
first place.  I am not ranting against FreeBSD here.
mozilla/firefox/netscape need to pull their collective
heads out and build something that browses an interweb,
not a file-installing-platform for your base system.

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Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Micah


I just updated my ports collection this morning and upgraded all out of 
date ports, including thunderbird and firefox.  Now typing thunderbird 
or firefox on the command line does absolutely nothing.  firefox or 
thunderbird do not show up in ps (checked using ps -auwx | grep 
firefox).  No error messages are displayed.  The only clue is that the 
return code is 1.


Sample session:
trisha% firefox
trisha% echo $?
1
trisha%

The only thing in /usr/ports/UPDATING on firefox is from 2004.

I upgraded my ports by using the script generated by portversion -c, 
which uses portupgrade and just lists the names of the ports on the line 
(eg portupgrade firefox thunderbird otherstuff).  This is on a 
6.0-RELEASE-p6 system.


uname -a
FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: 
Thu Mar 23 19:38:49 PST 2006 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA  i386


Any clues on what's wrong?

Thanks,
Micah
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Lars Cleary

Micah wrote:


I just updated my ports collection this morning and upgraded all out of 
date ports, including thunderbird and firefox.  Now typing thunderbird 
or firefox on the command line does absolutely nothing.  firefox or 
thunderbird do not show up in ps (checked using ps -auwx | grep 
firefox).  No error messages are displayed.  The only clue is that the 
return code is 1.


Sample session:
trisha% firefox
trisha% echo $?
1
trisha%

The only thing in /usr/ports/UPDATING on firefox is from 2004.

I upgraded my ports by using the script generated by portversion -c, 
which uses portupgrade and just lists the names of the ports on the line 
(eg portupgrade firefox thunderbird otherstuff).  This is on a 
6.0-RELEASE-p6 system.


uname -a
FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: 
Thu Mar 23 19:38:49 PST 2006 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA  i386


Any clues on what's wrong?

Thanks,
Micah

Recently someone solved a problem with the same symptom by
changing the ownership of the profiles of Firefox and Thunderbird,
the were b0rked and couldnt' be read.

Maybe that helps.

Lars
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Micah

Lars Cleary wrote:

Micah wrote:


I just updated my ports collection this morning and upgraded all out 
of date ports, including thunderbird and firefox.  Now typing 
thunderbird or firefox on the command line does absolutely nothing.  
firefox or thunderbird do not show up in ps (checked using ps -auwx | 
grep firefox).  No error messages are displayed.  The only clue is 
that the return code is 1.


Sample session:
trisha% firefox
trisha% echo $?
1
trisha%

The only thing in /usr/ports/UPDATING on firefox is from 2004.

I upgraded my ports by using the script generated by portversion -c, 
which uses portupgrade and just lists the names of the ports on the 
line (eg portupgrade firefox thunderbird otherstuff).  This is on a 
6.0-RELEASE-p6 system.


uname -a
FreeBSD trisha.eidolonworld 6.0-RELEASE-p6 FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE-p6 #0: 
Thu Mar 23 19:38:49 PST 2006 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/TRISHA  i386


Any clues on what's wrong?

Thanks,
Micah

Recently someone solved a problem with the same symptom by
changing the ownership of the profiles of Firefox and Thunderbird,
the were b0rked and couldnt' be read.

Maybe that helps.

Lars


Checking... All files in ~/.mozilla and its subs are owned by my user 
and my user's group and have rw (x for dirs) as a minimum for user (some 
have r and rw for group).  Likewise for ~/.thunderbird.  Using firefox 
-P test will bring up the profile manager and allow me to create a new 
profile, but the new profile is just as broken as the regular profile. 
Might be an extension  I thought there was a way to bring up 
firefox/thunderbird in a safemode that disables all extensions, but a 
firefox --help shows no such flag.


Thanks,
Micah
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Robert Huff

Micah writes:

I confirm the problem.  (The thunderbird compile finished ~10
minutes ago.)

  Checking... All files in ~/.mozilla and its subs are owned by my
  user and my user's group and have rw (x for dirs) as a minimum
  for user (some have r and rw for group).  Likewise for
  ~/.thunderbird.

Check.

  Using firefox -P test will bring up the profile manager and allow
  me to create a new profile, but the new profile is just as broken
  as the regular profile.

Check.

System:

FreeBSD 7.0-CURRENT #0: Mon Mar 13 09:23:39 EST 2006 


Robert Huff



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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3/30/06, Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Lars Cleary wrote:
  Micah wrote:
 
  I just updated my ports collection this morning and upgraded all out
  of date ports, including thunderbird and firefox.  Now typing
  thunderbird or firefox on the command line does absolutely nothing.

  Recently someone solved a problem with the same symptom by
  changing the ownership of the profiles of Firefox and Thunderbird,
  the were b0rked and couldnt' be read.

 Checking... All files in ~/.mozilla and its subs are owned by my user
 and my user's group and have rw (x for dirs) as a minimum for user (some
 have r and rw for group).  Likewise for ~/.thunderbird.

might try mv .mozilla .moz-backup
and then try starting it again.

The slightly more painful operation might be to upgrade
the whole dependancy tree under firefox/t-b.

I think this would be:
portupgrade -ufR firefox* or summat (I'm fairly certain
from the original post that you've portupgrade installed).

Note that 1.5.0.1 works as advertised here, and I don't
use dunndarbrydde.

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Micah

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 3/30/06, Micah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Lars Cleary wrote:

Micah wrote:

I just updated my ports collection this morning and upgraded all out
of date ports, including thunderbird and firefox.  Now typing
thunderbird or firefox on the command line does absolutely nothing.



Recently someone solved a problem with the same symptom by
changing the ownership of the profiles of Firefox and Thunderbird,
the were b0rked and couldnt' be read.



Checking... All files in ~/.mozilla and its subs are owned by my user
and my user's group and have rw (x for dirs) as a minimum for user (some
have r and rw for group).  Likewise for ~/.thunderbird.


might try mv .mozilla .moz-backup
and then try starting it again.


Tried that.


The slightly more painful operation might be to upgrade
the whole dependancy tree under firefox/t-b.

I think this would be:
portupgrade -ufR firefox* or summat (I'm fairly certain
from the original post that you've portupgrade installed).


Was about to try that (see below)


Note that 1.5.0.1 works as advertised here, and I don't
use dunndarbrydde.


1.5.0.1_2 was commited last night, so it's probably a recent breakage. 
I just found a bug report on it at 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95100

So we have four confirmed cases of firefox not working.

Thanks,
Micah
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Albert Shih
 Le 30/03/2006 à 14:42:10-0800, Micah a écrit
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 1.5.0.1_2 was commited last night, so it's probably a recent breakage. 
 I just found a bug report on it at 
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95100
 So we have four confirmed cases of firefox not working.
 
five...but not for firefox...for thunderbird (well I don't use it at
all...;-) )

Same problem when I try to laucnh thunderbird, nothing append, no error..

Regards.

using : FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE 

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Fri Mar 31 01:51:25 CEST 2006
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Donald J. O'Neill
On Thursday 30 March 2006 17:53, Albert Shih wrote:
  Le 30/03/2006 à 14:42:10-0800, Micah a écrit

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  1.5.0.1_2 was commited last night, so it's probably a recent
  breakage. I just found a bug report on it at
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95100
  So we have four confirmed cases of firefox not working.

 five...but not for firefox...for thunderbird (well I don't use it at
 all...;-) )

 Same problem when I try to laucnh thunderbird, nothing append, no
 error..

 Regards.

 using : FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE

 --
 Albert SHIH
 Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT)
 U.F.R. de Mathematiques.
 Heure local/Local time:
 Fri Mar 31 01:51:25 CEST 2006
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This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before 
and what to try. 

Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and 
start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working 
fine.

Don
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Pete Slagle

Donald J. O'Neill wrote:

On Thursday 30 March 2006 17:53, Albert Shih wrote:

 Le 30/03/2006 à 14:42:10-0800, Micah a écrit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1.5.0.1_2 was commited last night, so it's probably a recent
breakage. I just found a bug report on it at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95100
So we have four confirmed cases of firefox not working.

five...but not for firefox...for thunderbird (well I don't use it at
all...;-) )

Same problem when I try to laucnh thunderbird, nothing append, no
error..

Regards.

using : FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE


This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before 
and what to try. 

Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and 
start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working 
fine.


Surprisingly, this worked perfectly for me with FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE, 
although I didn't take the time to figure out why.


I didn't even restart the GUI, I just ran Firefox and Thunderbird from a 
xterm window as root, and then exited them.  All fixed.



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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Robert Huff
Pete Slagle writes:

   This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before 
   and what to try. 
   
   Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and 
   start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working 
   fine.
  
  Surprisingly, this worked perfectly for me with FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE, 
  although I didn't take the time to figure out why.

Also worked with -CURRENT.
However:
When run as non-root user, I got this:

(Gecko:35634): libgnomevfs-WARNING **: Deprecated function.  User modifications 
to the MIME database are no longer supported.



Robert Huff



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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Micah

Pete Slagle wrote:

Donald J. O'Neill wrote:

On Thursday 30 March 2006 17:53, Albert Shih wrote:

 Le 30/03/2006 à 14:42:10-0800, Micah a écrit

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

1.5.0.1_2 was commited last night, so it's probably a recent
breakage. I just found a bug report on it at
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=95100
So we have four confirmed cases of firefox not working.

five...but not for firefox...for thunderbird (well I don't use it at
all...;-) )

Same problem when I try to laucnh thunderbird, nothing append, no
error..

Regards.

using : FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE


This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before 
and what to try.
Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program 
and start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's 
working fine.


Surprisingly, this worked perfectly for me with FreeBSD 6.1-PRERELEASE, 
although I didn't take the time to figure out why.


I didn't even restart the GUI, I just ran Firefox and Thunderbird from a 
xterm window as root, and then exited them.  All fixed.


I remember this being the Linux way to install the mozilla suite. 
Install, run as root first, then run as user.  I never had to do that in 
FreeBSD.  I'll try it as soon as I get back.


- Micah
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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Yuan Jue
On Friday 31 March 2006 09:18, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
 This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before
 and what to try.

 Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and
 start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working
 fine.


works for me too. many thanks :)

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Wee-Sern Soo

http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.1.html#issues

It's a known issue.  Need to run as privileged user on all platforms, 
the first time.



Yuan Jue wrote the following on 31/03/2006 4:46 PM:

On Friday 31 March 2006 09:18, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
  

This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before
and what to try.

Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and
start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working
fine.




works for me too. many thanks :)

  

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Graham North
Okay - I'm  pretty close to newbie status, but could this be a needed 
rehash?

G/

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Yuan Jue
On Friday 31 March 2006 13:52, you wrote:
 http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/releases/1.5.0.1.html#issues

 It's a known issue.  Need to run as privileged user on all platforms,
 the first time.

got it. thanks again :)

 Yuan Jue wrote the following on 31/03/2006 4:46 PM:
  On Friday 31 March 2006 09:18, Donald J. O'Neill wrote:
  This happened to me also, until I remembered this has happened before
  and what to try.
 
  Login as root, start the GUI (mine is KDE), open a terminal program and
  start firefox from there. After that, I had no problems. It's working
  fine.
 
  works for me too. many thanks :)

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Yuan Jue
On Friday 31 March 2006 14:02, Graham North wrote:
 Okay - I'm  pretty close to newbie status, but could this be a needed
 rehash?

sorry, but what is your point?

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Graham North
As said, I am pretty new to unix but is the rehash command not used for 
reorganized the userland directory iindexes after program upgrades?

G/


Yuan Jue wrote:


On Friday 31 March 2006 14:02, Graham North wrote:
 


Okay - I'm  pretty close to newbie status, but could this be a needed
rehash?
   



sorry, but what is your point?

 



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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Yuan Jue
On Friday 31 March 2006 14:20, Graham North wrote:
 As said, I am pretty new to unix but is the rehash command not used for
 reorganized the userland directory iindexes after program upgrades?

if what you mean is why firefox cannot start after upgrade, then this is 
maybe a mozilla known problem. what you should do is su change to 
root and start firefox there and then everything will be fine

Or, maybe you should make your question more clear ;)

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Re: Thunderbird and Firefox dead after portupgrade

2006-03-30 Thread Graham North

Hi Yuan:
I did not pose a question. My suggestion to do a rehash was in response 
to someone else having trouble after upgrading Firefox.
It may or may not have been a great suggestion but that is all it was. 
If you have a good understanding of that command and why it may or may 
not be appropriate then I would be open ears. One of my friends who runs 
Debian tells me that he finds it necessary after doing software upgrades 
- yes I know that is a different OS.


But sincerely, if you or someone else on this list has a good 
understanding of its function please enlighten, I love to learn.

Thanks, Graham/



Yuan Jue wrote:


On Friday 31 March 2006 14:20, Graham North wrote:
 


As said, I am pretty new to unix but is the rehash command not used for
reorganized the userland directory iindexes after program upgrades?
   



if what you mean is why firefox cannot start after upgrade, then this is 
maybe a mozilla known problem. what you should do is su change to 
root and start firefox there and then everything will be fine


Or, maybe you should make your question more clear ;)

 



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