Re: mpt problem on a Supermicro motherboard (FreeBSD 9.2 amd64)

2013-10-10 Thread Victor Sudakov
Victor Sudakov wrote:
 
 I have several Supermicro-based servers with the mpt RAID adapter:
 
 # mptutil show adapter
 mpt0 Adapter:
Board Name: UNUSED
Board Assembly:
 Chip Name: C1068E
 Chip Revision: UNUSED
   RAID Levels: none
 #
 
 The problem is, I cannot configure any RAIDs (please see output
 below) from FreeBSD. If I configure volumes from BIOS setup, FreeBSD
 still sees them as separate physical discs.  What am I doing wrong? 
 
 I cannot use gmirror with these servers because a) if no MPT RAID is
 configured in BIOS setup, it cannot boot from HDD and b) if an MPT
 RAID *is* configured in BIOS setup, it occupies the last sector and
 prevents GEOM from working with these drives. 
 
 Any help please? (or redirect me to a more appropriate maillist).

After many unsuccessful trials and googling, we had to reconfigure the
adapter from RAID mode to IT mode. It required flashing the adapter's
BIOS from a Supermicro-supplied image and changing a jumper setting on
the motherboard. 

Now as the adapter is in IT mode, it is a plain HBA the BIOS can
boot from, and I have set up a gmirror on the SAS disks.

After flashing the adapter BIOS, don't forget to enter its setup
(Ctrl-C) and enable hotplugging of disks (called Removable Media
Support in the menu, off by default).

People come across similar problems and solutions on other OSes, like
http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-973912.html


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mpt problem on a Supermicro motherboard (FreeBSD 9.2 amd64)

2013-10-08 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues,

I have several Supermicro-based servers with the mpt RAID adapter:

# mptutil show adapter
mpt0 Adapter:
   Board Name: UNUSED
   Board Assembly:
Chip Name: C1068E
Chip Revision: UNUSED
  RAID Levels: none
#

The problem is, I cannot configure any RAIDs (please see output
below) from FreeBSD. If I configure volumes from BIOS setup, FreeBSD
still sees them as separate physical discs.  What am I doing wrong? 

I cannot use gmirror with these servers because a) if no MPT RAID is
configured in BIOS setup, it cannot boot from HDD and b) if an MPT
RAID *is* configured in BIOS setup, it occupies the last sector and
prevents GEOM from working with these drives. 

Any help please? (or redirect me to a more appropriate maillist).

# mptutil clear
Are you sure you wish to clear the configuration on mpt0? [y/N] y
mpt0: Configuration cleared
# mptutil show volumes
mpt0 Volumes:
  Id SizeLevel   Stripe State Write-Cache  Name
# mptutil show drives
mpt0 Physical Drives:
 da0 (  558G) ONLINE HITACHI HUS156060VLS600 A760 SCSI-6 bus 0 id 0
 da1 (  558G) ONLINE HITACHI HUS156060VLS600 A760 SCSI-6 bus 0 id 1
 da2 (  558G) ONLINE HITACHI HUS156060VLS600 A760 SCSI-6 bus 0 id 2
 da3 (  558G) ONLINE HITACHI HUS156060VLS600 A760 SCSI-6 bus 0 id 3
#

# mptutil create raid1 -v da2,da3
mptutil: Reading config page header failed: Invalid configuration page
Added drive da2 with PhysDiskNum 0
mptutil: Reading config page header failed: Invalid configuration page
#
# mptutil show volumes
mpt0 Volumes:
  Id SizeLevel   Stripe State Write-Cache  Name
#




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Re: Where is pkg repository for 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)?

2013-10-08 Thread Zoran Kolic
 Use PACKAGESITE=http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest
 
 That's the kit that will form the official FreeBSD package repository;
 it just lacks the crypto bits for signing the packages, which is why
 it's calling itself 'pkg-test'
 
 Oh -- there isn't an A record in the DNS for pkg-test.freebsd.org --
 look up a SRV record for _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org instead.

Well, I still have no idea what the address of the server is.
Could someone post it (i.e. 123.456.789.123 or alike)?
After having it set as PACKAGESITE, I assume running pkg, pkg2ng,
pkg update, pkg upgrade -fy enough?
Best regards all

  Zoran

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Re: Where is pkg repository for 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)?

2013-10-08 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013, at 10:58, Zoran Kolic wrote:
  Use PACKAGESITE=http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest
  
  That's the kit that will form the official FreeBSD package repository;
  it just lacks the crypto bits for signing the packages, which is why
  it's calling itself 'pkg-test'
  
  Oh -- there isn't an A record in the DNS for pkg-test.freebsd.org --
  look up a SRV record for _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org instead.
 
 Well, I still have no idea what the address of the server is.
 Could someone post it (i.e. 123.456.789.123 or alike)?

# dig _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org SRV

;  DiG 9.9.3-P2  _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org SRV
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 8634
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 3

;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4000
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;_http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org. INSRV

;; ANSWER SECTION:
_http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org. 120 IN SRV 10 10 80
pkg1.nyi.freebsd.org.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
pkg1.nyi.freebsd.org.   3600IN  A   96.47.72.120
pkg1.nyi.freebsd.org.   3600IN  2610:1c1:1:6300::16:78

;; Query time: 374 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.93.251#53(192.168.93.251)
;; WHEN: Tue Oct 08 11:24:41 CDT 2013
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 144



 After having it set as PACKAGESITE, I assume running pkg, pkg2ng,
 pkg update, pkg upgrade -fy enough?
 Best regards all
 

Depends. Where are your other installed packages from? I'd probably
re-install all of them from the pkg-test repository just to be safe.
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Re: Where is pkg repository for 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)?

2013-10-08 Thread Zoran Kolic
Yeah!!! 96.47.72.120 works! Thanks!

 Depends. Where are your other installed packages from? I'd probably
 re-install all of them from the pkg-test repository just to be safe.

I installed 9.1 on new node and compiled from ports.
It took a long time, which I want to avoid right now.
Here is what I consider as steps for 9.2:

freebsd-update upgrade -r 9.2-RELEASE
freebsd-update install
nextboot -k GENERIC
freebsd-update install
portsnap fetch
portsnap extract
do all pkg steps
freebsd-update install
kernel rebuild
reboot

I might be making some misunderstandings in order of
this?
Best regards

   Zoran

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Where is pkg repository for 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)?

2013-10-02 Thread Winston
Summary:

Where is the (U.S.) pkg(ng) repository for amd64 9.2-RELEASE (i.e.,
what's the right URI for PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf)?


Things I tried that didn't work:

* pkg_add -r pkg  didn't create /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf

* pkg.conf.sample suggests http://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest;,
  but the host name pkg.freebsd.org does not DNS resolve for me.

* URLs using pkgbeta.FreeBSD.org didn't work, and
  http://pkgbeta.FreeBSD.org/  itself says
  Currently this site only contains pkg bootstrap files!

Thanks!
 -WBE
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Re: Where is pkg repository for 9.2-RELEASE (amd64)?

2013-10-02 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 02/10/2013 21:07, Winston wrote:
 Summary:
 
 Where is the (U.S.) pkg(ng) repository for amd64 9.2-RELEASE (i.e.,
 what's the right URI for PACKAGESITE in pkg.conf)?
 
 
 Things I tried that didn't work:
 
 * pkg_add -r pkg  didn't create /usr/local/etc/pkg.conf
 
 * pkg.conf.sample suggests http://pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/latest;,
   but the host name pkg.freebsd.org does not DNS resolve for me.
 
 * URLs using pkgbeta.FreeBSD.org didn't work, and
   http://pkgbeta.FreeBSD.org/  itself says
   Currently this site only contains pkg bootstrap files!

Yeah -- and the bootstrap pkg on pkgbeta is severely out of date and has
some problems with the up to date DB schema.

Use PACKAGESITE=http://pkg-test.freebsd.org/pkg-test-${ABI}/latest

That's the kit that will form the official FreeBSD package repository;
it just lacks the crypto bits for signing the packages, which is why
it's calling itself 'pkg-test'

Oh -- there isn't an A record in the DNS for pkg-test.freebsd.org --
look up a SRV record for _http._tcp.pkg-test.freebsd.org instead.

(Yes, this is counter to RFC 2616.
https://github.com/freebsd/pkg/issues/550  There are moves afoot to
change to a new set of URL schemes: pkg+http://, pkg+https://,
pkg+ssh:// etc. but these are still under development)

Cheers,

Matthew

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Wildly different numbers of portsnap updates between i386 and amd64?

2013-09-21 Thread Christian Campbell
Hi. I run 9.1-RELEASE on two boxes: one i386 and the other amd64. I've run
the latter for a bit over a week. When I portsnap update, the 32-bit
machine typically gets several to dozens or hundreds of updates, while the
64-bit machine typically gets none, or maybe a couple. What might be the
explanation for this behaviour?

Thank you,
Christian

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Re: Wildly different numbers of portsnap updates between i386 and amd64?

2013-09-21 Thread Robert Simmons
The update is a delta from what is already on your system. When you
updated the older box, you pulled in lots of changes to get it
current. The newer box needed fewer updates to get current.

Or something is wrong. You can always delete the contents of /ports
and the database in /var/db/portsnap. Then just portsnap fetch 
portsnap extract. You will get a fresh ports tree.

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Christian Campbell
dc...@alumni.ufl.edu wrote:
 Hi. I run 9.1-RELEASE on two boxes: one i386 and the other amd64. I've run
 the latter for a bit over a week. When I portsnap update, the 32-bit
 machine typically gets several to dozens or hundreds of updates, while the
 64-bit machine typically gets none, or maybe a couple. What might be the
 explanation for this behaviour?

 Thank you,
 Christian

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Re: Installworld on amd64 fails on libc.a on r255342

2013-09-15 Thread CyberLeo Kitsana
On 09/13/2013 02:46 PM, Eir Nym wrote:
 I get this error for a while, and don't know what to do with.
 
 I build the world, then try to install it into DESTDIR. And at this point I
 always get error that libc.a can't be found.
 
 To eliminate any mistakes in commits I've run snapshot r255342 from FTP in
 VM and build sources it contains.
 
 my building and installing world with following commands:
 
  # make toolchain buildworld __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null SRCCONF=src.conf
  # make hierarchy distrib-dirs distribution installworld

Ensure all the variables you define on the make command line are the
same for all invocations of make, unless you're absolutely certain they
don't apply:

make -C /usr/src __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null SRCCONF=/my/src.conf buildworld
make -C /usr/src __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null SRCCONF=/my/src.conf
DESTDIR=/path distrib-dirs distribution installworld

Setting some knobs for buildworld but not for installworld will, at
best, compile things that won't be installed; and, at worst, attempt to
install things that haven't been compiled.

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Installworld on amd64 fails on libc.a on r255342

2013-09-13 Thread Eir Nym
I get this error for a while, and don't know what to do with.

I build the world, then try to install it into DESTDIR. And at this point I
always get error that libc.a can't be found.

To eliminate any mistakes in commits I've run snapshot r255342 from FTP in
VM and build sources it contains.

my building and installing world with following commands:

 # make toolchain buildworld __MAKE_CONF=/dev/null SRCCONF=src.conf
 # make hierarchy distrib-dirs distribution installworld

some notes:
 * Targets like hierarchy, disturb-dirs and distribution are described in
FreeBSD Handbook in this order
 * Target distribution doesn't install anything, but configuration files.

SRCCONF has following contents:

WITHOUT_AMD=YES
WITHOUT_ASSERT_DEBUG=YES
WITHOUT_BIND=YES
WITH_BMAKE=YES
WITH_BSD_GREP=YES
WITH_CLANG=YES
WITH_CLANG_EXTRAS=YES
WITH_CLANG_FULL=YES
WITH_CLANG_IS_CC=YES
WITH_CTF=YES
WITHOUT_CTM=YES
WITHOUT_DYNAMICROOT=YES
WITHOUT_FLOPPY=YES
WITH_ICONV=YES
WITHOUT_HTML=YES
WITHOUT_IPFILTER=YES
WITHOUT_IPFW=YES
WITHOUT_IPX=YES
WITHOUT_IPX_SUPPORT=YES
WITH_LDNS_UTILS=YES
WITH_LIBCPLUSPLUS=YES
WITH_LIBICONV_COMPAT=YES
WITHOUT_NCP=YES
WITHOUT_NIS=YES
WITHOUT_NLS=YES
WITHOUT_NLS_CATALOGS=YES
WITH_OPENSSH_NONE_CIPHER=YES
WITHOUT_PC_SYSINSTALL=YES
WITHOUT_RCMDS=YES
WITHOUT_SYSINSTALL=YES
WITHOUT_TCSH=YES
WITH_USB_GADGET_EXAMPLES=YES

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Should I move to amd64 ?

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Gass
I am currently using a 9.1-RELEASE with an i386 install.
The hardware is a core 2 duo with 2 GB of RAM.  My video card 
is an ati radeon hd 2400 xt. Things work fine.

Would I gain anything by starting over and doing an AMD64 install
or would that be a bad idea?  Would my system perform better, worse, 
or the same after the change? I may eventually bring the memory up
to 4GB, but not anytime soon.

I understand some ports my not work - like WINE - but I do not use
WINE. Would there be other problems?

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Should I move to amd64 ?

2013-05-30 Thread Michael Gass

I am currently using a 9.1-RELEASE with an i386 install.
The hardware is a core 2 duo with 2 GB of RAM.  My video card 
is an ati radeon hd 2400 xt. Things work fine.

Would I gain anything by starting over and doing an AMD64 install
or would that be a bad idea?  Would my system perform better, worse, 
or the same after the change? I may eventually bring the memory up
to 4GB, but not anytime soon.

I understand some ports my not work - like WINE - but I do not use
WINE. Would there be other problems?

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Re: Should I move to amd64 ?

2013-05-30 Thread Adam Vande More
Given your description, no you should not move.

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Michael Gass mg...@csbsju.edu wrote:

 I am currently using a 9.1-RELEASE with an i386 install.
 The hardware is a core 2 duo with 2 GB of RAM.  My video card
 is an ati radeon hd 2400 xt. Things work fine.

 Would I gain anything by starting over and doing an AMD64 install
 or would that be a bad idea?  Would my system perform better, worse,
 or the same after the change? I may eventually bring the memory up
 to 4GB, but not anytime soon.

 I understand some ports my not work - like WINE - but I do not use
 WINE. Would there be other problems?

 --
 Michael Gass
 mg...@csbsju.edu

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Re: Should I move to amd64 ?

2013-05-30 Thread Charles Swiger
Hi--

On May 30, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Michael Gass mg...@csbsju.edu wrote:
 I am currently using a 9.1-RELEASE with an i386 install.
 The hardware is a core 2 duo with 2 GB of RAM.  My video card 
 is an ati radeon hd 2400 xt. Things work fine.
 
 Would I gain anything by starting over and doing an AMD64 install
 or would that be a bad idea?  Would my system perform better, worse, 
 or the same after the change? I may eventually bring the memory up
 to 4GB, but not anytime soon.

For machines with less than 4GB of RAM, running 32-bit version is probably
wise; 32-bit processes use memory more efficiently compared with 64-bit mode.

For some math-intensive workloads like SSL/crypto, audio/video transcoding,
and such, there is likely to be significant improvement in 64-bit mode
compared with running in 32-bit mode.  For most other workloads, you're
not likely to notice a difference.

 I understand some ports my not work - like WINE - but I do not use
 WINE. Would there be other problems?

Nope, or at least not in general; AMD64 is very stable nowadays.

Regards,
-- 
-Chuck

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Thunderbird 17.0.6 build failure FreeBSD 9.1-p3 amd64

2013-05-23 Thread John
Hello list,

Portaudit said thunderbird had a vulnerability so I went to upgrade it
with portupgrade but it coredumps and it does this a good while into the
compilation process. Can anyone advise please how to overcome this?

Here is my system and output:

system - FreeBSD 9.1-RELEASE-p3 #0 r250634: Tue May 14 16:13:46 BST 2013
ports - r318881

# clang -v
FreeBSD clang version 3.1 (branches/release_31 156863) 20120523
Target: x86_64-unknown-freebsd9.0
Thread model: posix

# cat /etc/make.conf
CC=clang
CXX=clang++
CPP=clang-cpp

DIALOG=/usr/ports/Tools/scripts/dialogwrapper.sh
# added by use.perl 2013-03-11 18:36:08
PERL_VERSION=5.14.2

# portupgrade thunderbird
---  Upgrading 'thunderbird-17.0.5' to 'thunderbird-17.0.6'
(mail/thunderbird)
---  Building '/usr/ports/mail/thunderbird'
===  Cleaning for thunderbird-17.0.6
===  Found saved configuration for thunderbird-17.0.6
=== Fetching all distfiles required by thunderbird-17.0.6 for building
===  Extracting for thunderbird-17.0.6
= SHA256 Checksum OK for thunderbird-17.0.6esr.source.tar.bz2.
= SHA256 Checksum OK for enigmail-1.5.1.tar.gz.
===   thunderbird-17.0.6 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/perl5.14.2 - found

[...]

nsAutoSyncManager.cpp:27:1: warning: delete called on
'nsDefaultAutoSyncMsgStrategy' that has virtual functions but
  non-virtual destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS1(nsDefaultAutoSyncMsgStrategy, nsIAutoSyncMsgStrategy)
^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1201:3: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS1'
  NS_IMPL_RELEASE(_class)
  \
  ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:495:40: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_RELEASE'
  NS_IMPL_RELEASE_WITH_DESTROY(_class, delete (this))
   ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:475:5: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_RELEASE_WITH_DESTROY'
_destroy;
  \
^
nsAutoSyncManager.cpp:114:1: warning: delete called on
'nsDefaultAutoSyncFolderStrategy' that has virtual functions but
  non-virtual destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS1(nsDefaultAutoSyncFolderStrategy,
nsIAutoSyncFolderStrategy)
^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1201:3: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_ISUPPORTS1'
  NS_IMPL_RELEASE(_class)
  \
  ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:495:40: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_RELEASE'
  NS_IMPL_RELEASE_WITH_DESTROY(_class, delete (this))
   ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:475:5: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_RELEASE_WITH_DESTROY'
_destroy;
  \
^
nsSyncRunnableHelpers.cpp:12:1: warning: delete called on
'StreamListenerProxy' that has virtual functions but non-virtual
  destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1(StreamListenerProxy, nsIStreamListener)
^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1386:3: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1'
  NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE(_class)
  \
  ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1363:5: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE'
delete (this);
  \
^
nsSyncRunnableHelpers.cpp:13:1: warning: delete called on
'ImapMailFolderSinkProxy' that has virtual functions but
  non-virtual destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1(ImapMailFolderSinkProxy,
nsIImapMailFolderSink)
^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1386:3: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1'
  NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE(_class)
  \
  ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1363:5: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE'
delete (this);
  \
^
nsSyncRunnableHelpers.cpp:14:1: warning: delete called on
'ImapServerSinkProxy' that has virtual functions but non-virtual
  destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1(ImapServerSinkProxy, nsIImapServerSink)
^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1386:3: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1'
  NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE(_class)
  \
  ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1363:5: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE'
delete (this);
  \
^
nsSyncRunnableHelpers.cpp:15:1: warning: delete called on
'ImapMessageSinkProxy' that has virtual functions but
  non-virtual destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1(ImapMessageSinkProxy,
^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1386:3: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_ISUPPORTS1'
  NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE(_class)
  \
  ^
../../../mozilla/dist/include/nsISupportsImpl.h:1363:5: note: expanded
from macro 'NS_IMPL_THREADSAFE_RELEASE'
delete (this);
  \
^
nsSyncRunnableHelpers.cpp:17:1: warning: delete called on
'ImapProtocolSinkProxy' that has virtual functions but
  non-virtual destructor 

FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 : hwpstate0 : set freq failed , err 6

2013-04-29 Thread Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
Dears All ,

The following message


hwpstate0 : set freq failed , err 6


is displayed frequently on the following computer :


Main board : ASUS M5A97 R2.0
Processor : AMD FX X8 8350
Graphics Card : PowerColor HD 4830
Memory : 32GB

FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 2013-04-20 Snapshot


What may be the reason ?
How can it be corrected ?


Thank you very much .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk
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amd64 and COMPAT_AOUT

2013-02-19 Thread Daniel O'Callaghan

I'm migrating a lot of services to a new server running 9.1 amd64.
I have a VMWare FreeBSD 3.3 server I want to decommission, which is 
running a client's website with a shopping cart system in an a.out 
binary (source code lost long ago).


I have just tried to build a new kernel on the 9.1/amd64 machine with 
COMPAT_AOUT added to /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/NEWKERNEL but ...


root@corella:/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf # config NEWKERNEL
NEWKERNEL: unknown option COMPAT_AOUT

COMPAT_AOUT is recognised in i386/conf

The funny thing is that in amd64/conf/NOTES is
device  gzip#Exec gzipped a.out's.  REQUIRES 
COMPAT_AOUT!


Is it possible to get 9.1/amd64 to run i386 a.out binaries?
What might I be missing?

Thanks,

Danny
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Re: IPMI SOL setup on FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 supermicro X9SCM-F/X9CL-F

2013-01-24 Thread Derek Ragona

At 09:07 AM 1/23/2013, Anton Yuzhaninov wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:52:17, Derek Ragona wrote:
DR I have a couple servers that are built using the supermicro 
X9SCM-F/X9CL-F

DR motherboards, and I can't quite get IPMI SOL working right.
DR
DR These motherboards have 3 NIC's.  One NIC is for a dedicated IPMI 
interface.

DR
DR I have both servers configured to use the dedicated IPMI NIC and these
DR NIC's are plugged into a separate unmanaged switch.
DR
DR Both systems boards are set to redirect com1.  I changed /etc/ttys to 
run a

DR getty on /dev/ttyu0.  I have com1 configured to 115,200 baud, 8, n, 1, no
DR flowcontrol in the BIOS.  I in have /etc/ttys:
DR ttyu0   /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 vt100   on secure

/etc/ttys:
ttyu1   /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 vt100   on  secure

/boot/loader.conf:
hint.uart.0.flags=0
hint.uart.1.flags=0x10
boot_serial=YES
boot_multicons=YES
comconsole_speed=115200
console=comconsole vidconsole


Anton,

Thanks for answering.

I thought:

/etc/ttys:
ttyu1   /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 vt100   on  secure


is for com2?

I also thought:
hint.uart.1.flags=0x10

Is for com2?

you said:
hint.uart.1.flags=0x10

Is that for for a serial only console?  I read in some posts, to use:
hint.uart.1.flags=0x30

for both a local console with a serial console.  I could not find much 
documentation on the uart or sio flags.


-Derek

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Re: IPMI SOL setup on FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 supermicro X9SCM-F/X9CL-F

2013-01-23 Thread Anton Yuzhaninov
On Mon, 21 Jan 2013 22:52:17, Derek Ragona wrote:
DR I have a couple servers that are built using the supermicro X9SCM-F/X9CL-F 
DR motherboards, and I can't quite get IPMI SOL working right.
DR 
DR These motherboards have 3 NIC's.  One NIC is for a dedicated IPMI interface.
DR 
DR I have both servers configured to use the dedicated IPMI NIC and these 
DR NIC's are plugged into a separate unmanaged switch.
DR 
DR Both systems boards are set to redirect com1.  I changed /etc/ttys to run a 
DR getty on /dev/ttyu0.  I have com1 configured to 115,200 baud, 8, n, 1, no 
DR flowcontrol in the BIOS.  I in have /etc/ttys:
DR ttyu0   /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 vt100   on secure

/etc/ttys:
ttyu1   /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 vt100   on  secure

/boot/loader.conf:
hint.uart.0.flags=0
hint.uart.1.flags=0x10
boot_serial=YES
boot_multicons=YES
comconsole_speed=115200
console=comconsole vidconsole

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IPMI SOL setup on FreeBSD 9.1 amd64 supermicro X9SCM-F/X9CL-F

2013-01-21 Thread Derek Ragona
I have a couple servers that are built using the supermicro X9SCM-F/X9CL-F 
motherboards, and I can't quite get IPMI SOL working right.


These motherboards have 3 NIC's.  One NIC is for a dedicated IPMI interface.

I have both servers configured to use the dedicated IPMI NIC and these 
NIC's are plugged into a separate unmanaged switch.


Both systems boards are set to redirect com1.  I changed /etc/ttys to run a 
getty on /dev/ttyu0.  I have com1 configured to 115,200 baud, 8, n, 1, no 
flowcontrol in the BIOS.  I in have /etc/ttys:

ttyu0   /usr/libexec/getty std.115200 vt100   on secure

Using one server, I start an IPMI SOL session to the other server.  But all 
I get is the IPMI SOL output, no login prompt.
If I reboot the server I am SOL connected to, I do see the BIOS boot 
messages, and even the initial FreeBSD boot prompt.  I can even make boot 
prompt changes from the SOL session.  Once boot starts the SOL gets no more 
output.


I looked at both servers and the one I am using to initiate the SOL has 
/dev/ipmi0 and ipmitool working fine.  On the server I am trying to connect 
to has /dev/ipmi1 and ipmitool errors:
Could not open device at /dev/ipmi0 or /dev/ipmi/0 or /dev/ipmidev/0: No 
such file or directory


These are identical motherboards.

I suspect that because the one system creates /dev/ipmi1 instead of 
/dev/ipmi0 may be why the SOL output stops right after the boot starts.


If I do:
ln -s /dev/ipmi1 /dev/ipmi0

ipmitool works fine, until the next reboot.

How can I get the one system to make /dev/ipmi0 instead of /dev/ipmi1?

In FreeBSD 9.1 do I use hint.uart instead of hint.sio in /boot/loader.conf?

Any help would be appreciated.


-Derek
derek at computinginnovations.com



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Re: 关于在Freebsd9.0-amd64安装VirtualBox虚拟机的问题

2013-01-11 Thread Tijl Coosemans
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powerd(8), cpufreq(4) only available on amd64/i386?

2013-01-07 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
I recently installed 9.1-release on a sparc64 box.
One of the options in bsdinstall was to use the
cpu power control. I chose to use it. So I've got

# grep power /etc/rc.conf 
powerd_enable=YES
#

which doesn't seem to work:

root: /etc/rc: WARNING: failed to start powerd

Is the following dmesg line relevant?

# dmesg|grep power management
jbusppm0: JBus power management mem 
0x4000f00-0x4000f07,0x4000f410050-0x4000f41005f on nexus0
# 

Anyway, I wonder if powerd is only for amd64/i386
and is not supposed to work on sparc64.
cpufreq(4) is not listed in sparc64 GENERIC kernel.

If that's the case, then maybe it's best to
remove powerd option from bsdinstall?

Anton
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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi,

I've done the upgrade yesterday. It was a clean 8.3 install, I only set
up PPPoE and then run the following commands.

# cd /usr/ports/misc/mc  make install clean
# uname -r
8.3-RELEASE
# freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE upgrade
# freebsd-update install
# shutdown -r now

# freebsd-update install
# cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade  make install clean
# /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db
# /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -f ruby18-bdb
# rm /var/db/pkg/pkgdb.db /usr/ports/INDEX-*.db
# /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade -af
# freebsd-update install
# shutdown -r now

# freebsd-update IDS  outfile.ids

This is the content of outfile.ids:

Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found.
Fetching metadata signature for 9.1-RELEASE from update5.FreeBSD.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Fetching 1 metadata patches. done.
Applying metadata patches... done.
Fetching 1 metadata files... done.
Inspecting system... done.
/boot/kernel/linker.hints has SHA256 hash 
ebf78144f48f13af88e5e3752735a709b084d7e6aaee10b05e57f2a117cbc366, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
07b927068b34c4671a323e6a8aaa80ad22dc5fc4b3741b8a4060da1764510350.
/etc/group has SHA256 hash 
108de8653d4a6d451cc3f018780277d2fe2d770df7a7d984f5160dc753e06678, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
d788718c25a04a14cc1818ac2afa8b76a3fd899583691972d0d5127947e3504f.
/etc/hosts has SHA256 hash 
9684014402be7ecd32b9047181f595d124df6cf6a79dd323b0bd5685dccc2a81, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
f795387981b68599c3df984f2ce4ac4a32bf420d57faf1fb55f249b885414d64.
/etc/master.passwd has SHA256 hash 
cd9046284ac3e571eb9f0273f9bfc118e7094e0b9312fd1789f6385e43a26cd3, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
6f1da238cc0a55ed360a215039bc6cb5ce5369d20b8fbceb8a1941c5124e6a4e.
/etc/motd has SHA256 hash 
fa311ce1a08aea0c818d57b904c979941dabb726d1fb2ddaa368102bd6f2fb95, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
98f082efc89da5e887e72bc4dcfa3e5fc8bada9d19db4bdbba9a32692a7c82a7.
/etc/passwd has SHA256 hash 
e4bcb10c66a0440efb58591daadaeec894e75e5392da9e00f3881822d0647a11, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
3135de169a0ff94c0c97aeb525a07ea10e5ed81c9b825e219f7eea8deb97c444.
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf has 0755 permissions, but should have 0600 permissions.
/etc/ppp/ppp.conf has SHA256 hash 
623683de09ab97394221c64ccdec3569aa240854d907a4811f91c9ed92253dd4, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
f3dd3d0da252bd47681a261a1f0d46a8fc6ae84ff3cbd34b81b586bc87e49655.
/etc/pwd.db has SHA256 hash 
62eb1eafbfa8fe718e68bf784e542d09ccdc09012ef43d254ae48e9846a1df4d, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
bf86739ee052821992412b61a6673811588c382fa63ab38cc47c1a59305376eb.
/etc/shells has SHA256 hash 
4c25fb7c79fe5057217a70cfa1c27f41959bb7daa703a94774ec5ac9d29a9266, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
beab7e474ee12b051b98889f368bbd490340a908f6f2287f9238e818b830a1fd.
/etc/spwd.db has SHA256 hash 
b25126503c347feb67b76a5f27f44c318a675ddc82f4984b5ec0d2fc5a45fd30, but should 
have SHA256 hash 
1cbfbea78d316e4e8d29f53f0770b8ff1f3a731e993c3ae717f36304715d7a5b.

When I run ppp -ddial alice now, I get warnings Bad label
in /etc/ppp/ppp.conf (line x) - missing colon, but PPPoE still works.

Why are the checksums bad?

FWIW snd_hdspe now is available.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 05:13:39 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 ok, so FreeBSD release is the version of the kernel and not a
 labelling for the collection of all the software.

yes. It is even so that the ports work on all 'current' FreeBSD
versions but not the packages. With other words, you will download
always the same source files for 7.4, 8.3, 9.0, 9.1 and 10.0 but
compile it then for your version.
 
 For Linux major distros there usually is a labelling for the
 collection of the software, independent of the kernel version.
 
 On Linux I usually install binaries for the base system and desktop
 environment, but for important software, in my case it's audio,
 compiling from source is very important.
 
This does not really matter here. It is only that you might do not have
the options compiled in you will need when using the binary.

 The author of the snd_hdspe driver for FreeBSD seems to need testers.

I never have heard of this driver.

 It seems to be that nobody ever tested if ADAT is working and I'll
 test it. OTOH I suspect bug fixes for the driver have to be added by
 recompiling the kernel or at least the driver for the kernel, so I
 still could use binaries for the applications.

Using sources for the kernel is then the way to go. Binaries could work
if the required options are compiled in.

You can mix binaries and source within the applications. I do this all
the while. I install very often the binary and compile later from
sources.

 
 Since audio on FreeBSD seems to be a niche, I wonder if it's more
 promising, to go the source or to go the binary rout.

Source is the more promissing route here as niches are not supported by
default. There are some rare cases in which options exclude each other.
So, if you have strange hardware, source is the only route.
 
 I suspect if it's impossible or at least less good to mix binaries and
 from source build software for FreeBSD, I should chose to build from
 source.

You can mix. If it works, it works. If not, it is most likely an option
not compiled in you would need.

Erich
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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-)

:)

Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook?

At the moment I've got plenty of time, unfortunately not in front of my
desktop computer. Some time ago I won an iPad2, it's a dust catcher,
nice hardware, but odd software. I wonder if its possible to use it as a
reader. The problem is, that I can't connect the iPad to the Internet
and using iTunes (a disgusting application) in a virtual machine until
now I'm only able to use iBooks, but I don't know how to transmit plain
txt, pdf, html or what ever from the PC to the iPad.

If somebody should know how I can get the FreeBSD handbook on my iPad
that would be a help, so I could spend more time in reading how to
handle FreeBSD.

On VirtualBox (it doesn't work with wine) I run Win XP + iTunes and I
connect the PC and iPad by USB. No jailbreake, but if it would help I
would jailbraeke it. I tried to set up Linux to do ad-hoc by an USB WiFi
stick, but it never worked.

It would be nice to run Linux or FreeBSD on the iPad ;).

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-20 Thread Paul Kraus
On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-)
 
 :)
 
 Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook?

You can get it as a PDF at 
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ and you 
can then view that on your iPad. Look for the Bookshelf or some such, I use an 
iPod Touch and while similar, they are not identical to the iPad.

--
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Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3
Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 15:52 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  The author of the snd_hdspe driver for FreeBSD seems to need testers.
 
 I never have heard of this driver.

It's a new driver for FreeBSD for some cards of the vendor RME, AFAIK
they only sell really professional audio cards, used for broadcasting
and by professional audio studios. I never heard of professional audio
studios using FreeBSD, so it's very likely that FreeBSD users seldom
spend that much money for cards, that ship with all kinds of audio
interfaces, that aren't needed for averaged audio usage.

I was a professional audio and video engineer, but for my home studio I
only bought a relatively cheap RME card, the HDSPe AIO.

http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_aio.php

It comes with stereo AD/DA converters only, every elCheapo on-board
audio device has got more AD/DA IOs. Costs around 500,- EUR / 650,- USD.
Other RME gear is much more expensive.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:57 -0500, Paul Kraus wrote:
 On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
  I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-)
  
  :)
  
  Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook?
 
   You can get it as a PDF at
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
 and you can then view that on your iPad. Look for the Bookshelf or
 some such, I use an iPod Touch and while similar, they are not
 identical to the iPad.

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/de/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2
ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2

iBookshelf Lite 2.12.4 has got a file sharing option, so I added the
above extracted archives by renamed PDFs (FreeBSD Handbook de.pdf,
FreeBSD Handbook en.pdf), but after sync they still are not available.

I renamed the files (bsdde.pdf, bsden.pdf), added them and synced again,
but they are still not available.

The PDFs can be opened by Linux. VBox, resp. iTunes has got access to
the files and sync between VBox and the iPad does work for other data.

However, it's OT for this list.

Anyway, thank you :)
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-20 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 07:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 10:57 -0500, Paul Kraus wrote:
  On Dec 20, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  
   On Thu, 2012-12-20 at 05:29 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
   I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-)
   
   :)
   
   Strange question: Is the FreeBSD handbook available as iBook?
  
  You can get it as a PDF at
  ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
  and you can then view that on your iPad. Look for the Bookshelf or
  some such, I use an iPod Touch and while similar, they are not
  identical to the iPad.
 
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/de/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2
 ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/book.pdf.bz2
 
 iBookshelf Lite 2.12.4 has got a file sharing option, so I added the
 above extracted archives by renamed PDFs (FreeBSD Handbook de.pdf,
 FreeBSD Handbook en.pdf), but after sync they still are not available.
 
 I renamed the files (bsdde.pdf, bsden.pdf), added them and synced again,
 but they are still not available.
 
 The PDFs can be opened by Linux. VBox, resp. iTunes has got access to
 the files and sync between VBox and the iPad does work for other data.
 
 However, it's OT for this list.
 
 Anyway, thank you :)
 Ralf

PS:

I installed two other gratis apps.

Offline Reader ! 2.0 and PDF Reader Lite 1.2.3, the first app seems to
be useless and when I downloaded it, I was asked if I'm = 17 years
old :D, but the second app does receive and display the handbooks named
bsdde.pdf, bsden.pdf :)

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Hi :)

this isn't a request, just a note about the handbook, from the point of
view a newbie has got.

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

We also assume that you have already obtained the sources to a newer
system. If the sources available on the particular system are old too,
see Section 25.6 for detailed help about synchronizing them to a newer
version.

I know svn from Linux, but I don't know what I should update using
svn ;). Yes, the ports, but to get knowledge were the ports are, I have
to google ;). This howto is more confusing for a newbie and seems to
need more reboots, so I started with

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

but it's not described how to do the following:
Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer yes
to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual
intervention during the build process.

regarding to google it's env BATCH=yes, I'll test it next time I'll
reboot into FreeBSD.

Another issue is, that the portupgrade command isn't found.

However, pppoe does work, but using vi never is fun for me :).

I guess I'll read how to install software, IOW how to install
portupgrade and continue with the portupgrade method ASAP, later today,
or tomorrow.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
Ralf,

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 Hi :)

 this isn't a request, just a note about the handbook, from the point of
 view a newbie has got.

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

 We also assume that you have already obtained the sources to a newer
 system. If the sources available on the particular system are old too,
 see Section 25.6 for detailed help about synchronizing them to a newer
 version.

 I know svn from Linux, but I don't know what I should update using
 svn ;). Yes, the ports, but to get knowledge were the ports are, I have
 to google ;). This howto is more confusing for a newbie and seems to
 need more reboots, so I started with

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

 but it's not described how to do the following:
 Note that setting the BATCH environment variable to yes will answer yes
 to any prompts during this process, removing the need for manual
 intervention during the build process.

 regarding to google it's env BATCH=yes, I'll test it next time I'll
 reboot into FreeBSD.

 Another issue is, that the portupgrade command isn't found.

Check in /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/ directory:

Become super user,
$ su -
passwd:
then as super user:
# cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/portupgrade
then from that directory
# make install clean

and you should have the portugrade command :)

You may also use at your discretion the portmaster tool?  It works
very well and a nice example is given by W. Block:

http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html


Best Regards,


Antonio



 However, pppoe does work, but using vi never is fun for me :).

 I guess I'll read how to install software, IOW how to install
 portupgrade and continue with the portupgrade method ASAP, later today,
 or tomorrow.

 Regards,
 Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 10:14 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote:
 You may also use at your discretion the portmaster tool?  It works
 very well and a nice example is given by W. Block:
 
 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html

Thank you Antonio :)

because I can't install FreeBSD by the 9.0 DVD, for what reason ever
this doesn't work, I installed it by the 8.3 DVD and will now make a
release upgrade. IIUC a release upgrade will rebuild everything, hence
there should be no dependency issues. My FreeBSD 8.3 is a fresh install,
I only set up PPPoE, anything else is default.
IIUC I need to take care about it to keep dependencies up to date, when
I don't upgrade the complete release, but just upgrade some software.

So, can I upgrade from 8.3 to 9.0, without taking care about
dependencies and take care about the link, when 9.0 is installed,
instead of doing it right now?

My apologize for the terrible English, I'm in a hurry, but wanted to
rely immediately and this makes broken English not better ;).

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-19 Thread Antonio Olivares
Ralf,

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 10:14 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote:
 You may also use at your discretion the portmaster tool?  It works
 very well and a nice example is given by W. Block:

 http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html

 Thank you Antonio :)

 because I can't install FreeBSD by the 9.0 DVD, for what reason ever
 this doesn't work, I installed it by the 8.3 DVD and will now make a
 release upgrade. IIUC a release upgrade will rebuild everything, hence
 there should be no dependency issues. My FreeBSD 8.3 is a fresh install,
 I only set up PPPoE, anything else is default.
 IIUC I need to take care about it to keep dependencies up to date, when
 I don't upgrade the complete release, but just upgrade some software.

 So, can I upgrade from 8.3 to 9.0, without taking care about
 dependencies and take care about the link, when 9.0 is installed,
 instead of doing it right now?

Yes, you can do it.
You can update to 9.0 with freebsd-update tool and then
install/reinstall the ports.

# freebsd-update -r 9.1-RELEASE
or
#  freebsd-update -r 9.0-RELEASE
in case that 9.1 is not there yet*?  then run

# freebsd-update fetch

# freebsd-update install

to get security updates as is documented :

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

This should work well to get newer RELEASE, but some ports may be
needed to be rebuilt/reinstalled.

Hope this helps,


Antonio



 My apologize for the terrible English, I'm in a hurry, but wanted to
 rely immediately and this makes broken English not better ;).

 Regards,
 Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-19 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Wed, 19 Dec 2012 18:09:16 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2012-12-19 at 10:14 -0600, Antonio Olivares wrote:
  You may also use at your discretion the portmaster tool?  It works
  very well and a nice example is given by W. Block:
  
  http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/portupgrade.html
 
 Thank you Antonio :)
 
 because I can't install FreeBSD by the 9.0 DVD, for what reason ever
 this doesn't work, I installed it by the 8.3 DVD and will now make a
 release upgrade. IIUC a release upgrade will rebuild everything, hence

one way was already shown to you. The other route would lead you via
the sources. I prefer the sources over the binary upgrade.

If the new kernel will not boot, you can boot the old kernel which will
then be under kernel.old.

 there should be no dependency issues. My FreeBSD 8.3 is a fresh

Dependencies come in when it comes to ports. I would like to suggest
the you first make a decision whether you want the ports as binaries or
via source. Both routes work. Only the sources allow you to specify
options.

I would also recommend to download first the sources or the binaries
and start the upgrade only after all files are downloaded. As you
already know, portupgrade is the tool of choice here.

If you have problems with 9.1, you might consider a move to 10. I have
done this too for the same reason when I got a new machine which has
had problems with 9.0. 10.0 is not recommended for production. Me and
many other still do this. You might will run occassionally into
problems. So, think twice before doing this.

 install, I only set up PPPoE, anything else is default.
 IIUC I need to take care about it to keep dependencies up to date,
 when I don't upgrade the complete release, but just upgrade some
 software.
 
 So, can I upgrade from 8.3 to 9.0, without taking care about
 dependencies and take care about the link, when 9.0 is installed,
 instead of doing it right now?
 
FreeBSD and the ports have 'nothing' to do with each other. You have to
upgrade FreeBSD first and then upgrade the ports. Most likely, all
applications will continue to work without upgrade. If I remember
right, even after an upgrade from 8.3 to 10.0 on one of my machines,
all applications continued to work. I still upgraded them as fast as
possible.

 My apologize for the terrible English, I'm in a hurry, but wanted to
 rely immediately and this makes broken English not better ;).

Do not worry about this here. I think, while you have been pretty clear
on the rest, the last line does not make real sense to me.

Erich
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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Thank you Erich :)

ok, so FreeBSD release is the version of the kernel and not a
labelling for the collection of all the software.

For Linux major distros there usually is a labelling for the collection
of the software, independent of the kernel version.

On Linux I usually install binaries for the base system and desktop
environment, but for important software, in my case it's audio,
compiling from source is very important.

The author of the snd_hdspe driver for FreeBSD seems to need testers. It
seems to be that nobody ever tested if ADAT is working and I'll test it.
OTOH I suspect bug fixes for the driver have to be added by recompiling
the kernel or at least the driver for the kernel, so I still could use
binaries for the applications.

Since audio on FreeBSD seems to be a niche, I wonder if it's more
promising, to go the source or to go the binary rout.

I suspect if it's impossible or at least less good to mix binaries and
from source build software for FreeBSD, I should chose to build from
source.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-19 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 20 Dec 2012 05:13:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Thank you Erich :)
 
 ok, so FreeBSD release is the version of the kernel and not a
 labelling for the collection of all the software.

No. The version specification refers to the version of the
kernel _and_ the operating system (which form a unit maintained
by the FreeBSD team). Those typically have to be in sync.
Depending on what branch you follow, this can be:

a) a static release number, e. g. 8.2-RELEASE

b) a release, enriched by security updates, e. g. 8.2-RELEASE-p2

c) a stable version, e. g. 8-STABLE of a specific date
   (this is work in progress that has been considered working)

d) a development version, e. g. 10-CURRENT
   (this may or _may not_ even compile, it's experimental)

Depending on what branch you follow, updating techniques may
differ: freebsd-update (the binary way) can be used for a) and
b); for c) and d) you update from source.



 For Linux major distros there usually is a labelling for the collection
 of the software, independent of the kernel version.

Linux doesn't know the differentiation between the operating
system (consisting of the OS kernel and the OS programs, the
world in FreeBSD terminology) and everything else (third
party contributed applications, in FreeBSD provided by the
ports collection).




 On Linux I usually install binaries for the base system and desktop
 environment, but for important software, in my case it's audio,
 compiling from source is very important.

The ports collection allows both binary installation and by source.
There are tools that help managing them.

Note that unlike Linux, FreeBSD draws a line between the OS
and installed applications - you need to install and update
them separately. This is a big benefit as a failed program
installation can never harm your OS.



 The author of the snd_hdspe driver for FreeBSD seems to need testers. It
 seems to be that nobody ever tested if ADAT is working and I'll test it.
 OTOH I suspect bug fixes for the driver have to be added by recompiling
 the kernel or at least the driver for the kernel, so I still could use
 binaries for the applications.

Of course. The separation I've mentioned explicitely allows this
method to function. What you need to do is to update your sources
in /usr/src and then recompile the kernel and, if required, the
world, as explained in /usr/src/Makefile's comment header.



 Since audio on FreeBSD seems to be a niche, I wonder if it's more
 promising, to go the source or to go the binary rout.

I'd say: Use the source Luke. :-)

Experimental changes and bleeding edge updates are typically a
domain of source installations. With svn you can track smallest
changes very quickly, apply them to your system and have a test
run. Doesn't work? Undo the change, or wait for a new version.



 I suspect if it's impossible or at least less good to mix binaries and
 from source build software for FreeBSD, I should chose to build from
 source.

Basically there is no problem. One thing you have to pay attention
to is dependency versions, but that's what port management tools
like portmaster can do for you.




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Re: i386 vs. amd64

2012-12-18 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr

On 12/18/12 00:13, Erich Dollansky wrote:

Hi,

wasn't the same question here a few days ago?

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:16:36 -0500
Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:


Ever since 8.X (my system is now 9.1-RC3 [done via csup]) been using
i386 with the following main ports:


Let me chime in where Erich couldn't answer as I recently made the 
switch to amd64 myself.



x11-wm/xfce4


yes.


www/firefox


Yes.


www/linux-f10-flashplugin11


Yes


editors/libreoffice


Yes.


www/tomcat-7
www/apace22


Typo? Apache 2.2 runs.


devel/aegis (I am the maintainer)
devel/fhist
devel/cook
java/openjdk6


Yes

snip

So I have the following questions:

1. Will all the above ports (and their dependencies) work on amd64?


I gave you the answer if I knew one. I general, I do not have problems
which are linked to 32 or 64 bits.


I've had no problems either, and I am in the middle of a devel/pcre 
rebuilding (over 200 ports).



2. Is there any way to do a in place switch to amd64 or do I need to
rebuild the system from the ground up?


To my knowledge, it is still a fresh installation. Just download an
image and start from there.


I think the handbook gives directions for an in-place switch, but it 
(and many, many others) suggest a fresh install, which is what I went 
with (I had other reasons as well).



3. In general is amd64 now as capable of handling ports and such as
well as i386 does?


I saw that some ports I used to use on i386 went 100% smooth on amd64.
I believe that this has improved even further.

Just make the jump.

snip

I agree, I've had no problems related to the arch since I switched and 
would 100% recommend it for anyone considering it.


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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 18:42 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 I want to test snd_hdspe. How can I upgrade from 8.2 to a version
  ^^^8.3
 including the driver or something similar to get the driver?
 Btw. I didn't test, if the driver is part of 8.3 until now :D, but if
 IIUC I need = 9.0.

I'll read
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
can I assume that because I didn't install or updated and configured
anything until now, there won't be issues for a version upgrade, if I
only configure PPPoE, followed by a release upgrade and after that I'll
install software and set up FreeBSD completely?

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-18 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:42:41 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 I want to test snd_hdspe. How can I upgrade from 8.2 to a version
 including the driver or something similar to get the driver?
 Btw. I didn't test, if the driver is part of 8.3 until now :D, but if
 IIUC I need = 9.0.

It would probably be the easiest way to update your source tree
(using svn as this is the default method today) and re-install
from that. I'm not sure freebsd-update can cross the major
version border without trouble (never tried).

See 25.7 for details:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

But also note that freebsd-update supports a -r version option
as explained in 25.2.3:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html

But as I said, I've never personally tried that.

This approach keeps all your partition settings and doesn't require
any other work to be done on that level.


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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-18 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 18:57 +0100, Polytropon wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:42:41 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  I want to test snd_hdspe. How can I upgrade from 8.2 to a version
  including the driver or something similar to get the driver?
  Btw. I didn't test, if the driver is part of 8.3 until now :D, but if
  IIUC I need = 9.0.
 
 It would probably be the easiest way to update your source tree
 (using svn as this is the default method today) and re-install
 from that. I'm not sure freebsd-update can cross the major
 version border without trouble (never tried).
 
 See 25.7 for details:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
 
 But also note that freebsd-update supports a -r version option
 as explained in 25.2.3:
 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
 
 But as I said, I've never personally tried that.
 
 This approach keeps all your partition settings and doesn't require
 any other work to be done on that level.

Thank you :)

I'll read and test it later.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: Upgrading FreeBSD 8.3 amd64

2012-12-18 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 18:54:29 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 18:42 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  I want to test snd_hdspe. How can I upgrade from 8.2 to a version
   ^^^8.3
  including the driver or something similar to get the driver?
  Btw. I didn't test, if the driver is part of 8.3 until now :D, but if
  IIUC I need = 9.0.
 
 I'll read
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html
 can I assume that because I didn't install or updated and configured
 anything until now, there won't be issues for a version upgrade, if I
 only configure PPPoE, followed by a release upgrade and after that I'll
 install software and set up FreeBSD completely?

Sounds like a valid approach. I've been doing this many times,
i. e. first install base system from installation media without
additional packages, setup networking (PPPoE in former times,
DHCP today), then update the system to the desired version or
branch (e. g. -STABLE via source), and then start installing
the applications from ports (also updated).



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i386 vs. amd64

2012-12-17 Thread Aryeh Friedman
Ever since 8.X (my system is now 9.1-RC3 [done via csup]) been using
i386 with the following main ports:

x11-wm/xfce4
www/firefox
www/linux-f10-flashplugin11
editors/libreoffice
www/tomcat-7
www/apace22
devel/aegis (I am the maintainer)
devel/fhist
devel/cook
java/openjdk6
emulation/virtualbox-ose (and additions)
print/cups

I have avoided amd64 in the past due to some or not all them working,
but want to switch if possible because PAE seems to be broken now on
i386.

So I have the following questions:

1. Will all the above ports (and their dependencies) work on amd64?
2. Is there any way to do a in place switch to amd64 or do I need to
rebuild the system from the ground up?
3. In general is amd64 now as capable of handling ports and such as
well as i386 does?
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Re: i386 vs. amd64

2012-12-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

wasn't the same question here a few days ago?

On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:16:36 -0500
Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ever since 8.X (my system is now 9.1-RC3 [done via csup]) been using
 i386 with the following main ports:
 
 x11-wm/xfce4

yes.

 www/firefox

Yes.

 www/linux-f10-flashplugin11
 editors/libreoffice

Yes.

 www/tomcat-7
 www/apace22

Typo? Apache 2.2 runs.

 devel/aegis (I am the maintainer)
 devel/fhist
 devel/cook
 java/openjdk6
 emulation/virtualbox-ose (and additions)
 print/cups

Yes.

The ones I did not answer, I do not have installed.

 
 I have avoided amd64 in the past due to some or not all them working,
 but want to switch if possible because PAE seems to be broken now on
 i386.

It was a big jump forward when I switched during 8.0 or 8.1.
 
 So I have the following questions:
 
 1. Will all the above ports (and their dependencies) work on amd64?

I gave you the answer if I knew one. I general, I do not have problems
which are linked to 32 or 64 bits.

 2. Is there any way to do a in place switch to amd64 or do I need to
 rebuild the system from the ground up?

To my knowledge, it is still a fresh installation. Just download an
image and start from there.

 3. In general is amd64 now as capable of handling ports and such as
 well as i386 does?

I saw that some ports I used to use on i386 went 100% smooth on amd64.
I believe that this has improved even further.

Just make the jump.

Erich
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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:00:51 -0500
Aryeh Friedman aryeh.fried...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have been using i386 (-STABLE) for years now and was wondering if
 switching to amd64 finally makes sense (i.e. are enough ports working
 on it now [xfrce4, firefox, libreoffice, openjdk-6, tomcat, mysql,
 apache22, flash, cups, devel/aegis, devel/cook, devel/fhist,
 virtualbox-ose, nvidia-kmod are the minimal ones I need]) the main
 reason for asking is PAE seems to be broken now and virtualbox-ose
 refuses to let me install 64 bit OS's like Win 8.

I did the switch 2010 and missed nothing but wine.

Ok, flash is not realy working for me but I also do not miss it.

Erich
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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 05:35 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:
 I'm running amd64 and it seems rock-solid and well supported.

I had a similar question. I wanted to know if there are issues for
audio, when using 64 bit and got this reply:

If you do not have a _specific_ requirement for 32 bit, use 64 bit, of
course if you have a 64 bit CPU. :-)

Specific requirements _could_ be wine and nVidia's proprietary GPU
driver, as far as I know. - Polytropon (Btw. thank you Polytropon :)

I guess in the web I read something about issues with VBox, but perhaps
I'm confusing VBox with wine. I chose 64 bit and will stay with it, even
if I should install another version of FreeBSD today.

Regards,
Ralf

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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 18:45 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
 flash

For Linux there are no issues with the proprietary 64 bit flash, but
there will be no new versions of Flash any more for Linux. If FreeBSD
should use the Linux version, than Flash in the near future either way
won't work any more. IIRC Flash only is needed by some browsers and only
for videos that e.g. start with an advertising and special tasks like
that. I'm not sure, but AFAIR HTML 5 can replace Flash, assumed a video
doesn't start with an advertising and things like that.
For Linux Adobe will continue providing security upgrades for 11.2 in
the future, but that won't help, when websites expect newer versions.

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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:05:47 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 18:45 +0700, Erich Dollansky wrote:
  flash
 
 For Linux there are no issues with the proprietary 64 bit flash, but
 there will be no new versions of Flash any more for Linux. If FreeBSD
 should use the Linux version, than Flash in the near future either way
 won't work any more.

That shouldn't be _that_ complicated, as Flash is going to
be extinct soon (primarily to the lack of it on mobile devices
with their growing market share). HTML5 will take over the
world instead. :-)



 IIRC Flash only is needed by some browsers and only
 for videos that e.g. start with an advertising and special tasks like
 that.

Oh, if it would be that simple... :-(

Sadly, for some developers, Flash has gotten a replacement for
HTML. They design their whole pages _inside_ Flash, so if you
don't have it installed, you get an empty page. Their excuse is
interactivity.

Still more and more online games (those you can play in the web
browser) migrate to HTML 5 technology which offers good support
on many platforms (and not only on the latest Windows).

And if you're using Firefox, there are plugins available that
allow you to download video content instead of dealing with the
Flash player the site wants you to use. This also encourages
the idea of wathcing such content offline with your favourite
player, which is mplayer. :-)



 I'm not sure, but AFAIR HTML 5 can replace Flash, assumed a video
 doesn't start with an advertising and things like that.

It already does this in more and more locations. Regarding video,
there's still the problem created by patent lawyers and other
strange guys: the coded. HTML 5 can support many formats for
video content, even free formats (that do not require anyone to
pay royalties in order to use it), but in how far those are already
distributed among browsers and systems, that's a totally different
question.

However, the out of the box experience gets better. Soon the
functionality of Flash will be integrated per default in modern
web browsers. Just imagine how stupid it would be if I created a
web page that requires you to download a proprietary plugin (with
lots of security holes!) in order to see a PNG image, to see text
in green color, or to render text centered. Sounds idiotic? It is!
And it's mostly what applies to Flash. :-)



 For Linux Adobe will continue providing security upgrades for 11.2 in
 the future, but that won't help, when websites expect newer versions.

Correct, so this is another good reason for finally dropping Flash
and move on to better alternatives.



Side note:

I've been experiencing working Flash for many years now without
any trouble on FreeBSD. Sometimes I wish it wouldn't work anymore.
It makes the web much more readable. :-)



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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Warren Block

On Sun, 16 Dec 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote:


On Sun, 2012-12-16 at 05:35 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote:

I'm running amd64 and it seems rock-solid and well supported.


I had a similar question. I wanted to know if there are issues for
audio, when using 64 bit and got this reply:

If you do not have a _specific_ requirement for 32 bit, use 64 bit, of
course if you have a 64 bit CPU. :-)

Specific requirements _could_ be wine and nVidia's proprietary GPU
driver, as far as I know. - Polytropon (Btw. thank you Polytropon :)

I guess in the web I read something about issues with VBox, but perhaps
I'm confusing VBox with wine. I chose 64 bit and will stay with it, even
if I should install another version of FreeBSD today.


VirtualBox works well with both i386 and amd64 hosts and guests.  Of 
course, with an amd64 host there can be more RAM to share between host 
and VMs.

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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Steve O'Hara-Smith
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:48:40 +0100
Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@rocketmail.com wrote:

 Specific requirements _could_ be wine and nVidia's proprietary GPU
 driver, as far as I know. - Polytropon (Btw. thank you Polytropon :)

I'm using amd64 on an Atom/ION box here, the Nvidia binary drivers
work fine for both openGL and the vdpau stuff. Virtualbox worked fine too,
but this Atom doesn't have hardware virtualisation support so it's a bit
sluggish. I've not tried (or wanted) Wine in years.

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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Arthur Chance

On 12/16/12 11:00, Aryeh Friedman wrote:

I have been using i386 (-STABLE) for years now and was wondering if
switching to amd64 finally makes sense (i.e. are enough ports working
on it now [xfrce4, firefox, libreoffice, openjdk-6, tomcat, mysql,
apache22, flash, cups, devel/aegis, devel/cook, devel/fhist,
virtualbox-ose, nvidia-kmod are the minimal ones I need]) the main
reason for asking is PAE seems to be broken now and virtualbox-ose
refuses to let me install 64 bit OS's like Win 8.


I've been using amd64 since I built my current box in April 2008 
(starting with 7.0-RELEASE) and have never had a problem. However, I 
avoid Flash like the plague it is. I recently installed an nVidia card 
and have no problems with the driver - the latest release dealt with the 
screen flash problem I had been having.


As far as I understand, PAE usage has always had the caveat that certain 
device drivers may not work with it, and I suspect PAE support is 
suffering bit rot.


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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Gary Aitken
On 12/16/12 04:00, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
 I have been using i386 (-STABLE) for years now and was wondering if
 switching to amd64 finally makes sense (i.e. are enough ports working
 on it now [xfrce4, firefox, libreoffice, openjdk-6, tomcat, mysql,
 apache22, flash, cups, devel/aegis, devel/cook, devel/fhist,
 virtualbox-ose, nvidia-kmod are the minimal ones I need]) the main
 reason for asking is PAE seems to be broken now and virtualbox-ose
 refuses to let me install 64 bit OS's like Win 8.

I've been using 9.0 release for about six months.
xfce, firefox, thunderbird, openoffice 3.4.1, jdk (most was done prior
to moving to fbsd 9.0, will be doing more) mysql, nvidia driver.

had trouble using html5 from youtube -- caused weird transparent 
rendering issues, had to disable it.

minor problems with oo which are probably generic.  (Infinite loop when
page had 20-40 images to run text around; not repeatable, but happens
fairly frequently; scrolling causes refresh which temporarily fixes the
problem).

On 12/16/12 07:08, Polytropon wrote:

 And if you're using Firefox, there are plugins available that
 allow you to download video content instead of dealing with the
 Flash player the site wants you to use. 

and the recommended one is?

  Sometimes I wish it wouldn't work anymore.
 It makes the web much more readable. :-)

amen


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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 12:13:36 -0700, Gary Aitken wrote:
 On 12/16/12 07:08, Polytropon wrote:
 
  And if you're using Firefox, there are plugins available that
  allow you to download video content instead of dealing with the
  Flash player the site wants you to use. 
 
 and the recommended one is?

No idea, I can't use Firefox as it freezes my computer (due to a
faulty GPU). I prefer using youtube-dl and get-flash-video scripts
which do not rely on a browser, but work for 99% of the cases I've
tried them. But as suggested, there are Firefox extensions that
allow a similar functionality, but integrated with the web browser.
Until later, I'm using Opera, it doesn't freeze my computer. :-)




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Re: switching from i386 to amd64

2012-12-16 Thread RW
On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 06:00:51 -0500
Aryeh Friedman wrote:

 I have been using i386 (-STABLE) for years now and was wondering if
 switching to amd64 ... nvidia-kmod are the minimal ones I need]) the
 main reason for asking is PAE seems to be broken now 

The last I heard the nvidia driver wasn't compatible with PAE
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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-30 Thread Jakub Lach
The problem is, it gets recreated upon updating from source.



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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-30 Thread Jakub Lach
Even that I was aware of that, I've just lost track of it. Thanks for simple
solution.





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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-30 Thread Thomas Mueller
 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com wrote:

  i386 will not see anything above 4 GB


 Actually you *can* give access to 4Gb RAM for your system: PAE allows you
 to use 36 bits instead of 32 to address your memory (and supported till
 Pentium Pro) but that is only for OS (32bit apps would see 4Gb only).

 Anyway, I have not seen any troubles with 64bit installations.

 Ilya.

How does the system know what is OS and what is 32-bit apps?

Where would GCC fit in this regard, or Clang for that matter?

Tom
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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-30 Thread Ilya Kazakevich
 How does the system know what is OS and what is 32-bit apps?

OS works in kernel space while application is not.

PAE affects paging system allowing software to address 2^36 bytes of memory.
You can access it in kernel space, but user space applications are limited
to 2^32 bytes of virtual memory (even less than 2^32 because of mappings).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension

If you are interested in memory management in IA-32 (and IA-32e) here are
good links:
1) official guide:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/architectures-software-developer-manuals.html
2) nice (human-readable) book:
http://mindshare.com/shop/?c=bsection=0A6B17101710



 Where would GCC fit in this regard, or Clang for that matter?

If you write app for user-space (not kernel module) you should not care
about PAE.
You simply compile it as you would do it for system with out of PAE.

Ilya.
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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-30 Thread Andrea Venturoli

On 11/30/12 15:40, Thomas Mueller wrote:

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com wrote:



i386 will not see anything above 4 GB




Actually you *can* give access to 4Gb RAM for your system: PAE allows you
to use 36 bits instead of 32 to address your memory (and supported till
Pentium Pro) but that is only for OS (32bit apps would see 4Gb only).



Anyway, I have not seen any troubles with 64bit installations.



Ilya.


How does the system know what is OS and what is 32-bit apps?


I think this question is badly written.

A kernel supporting PAE can see and use more than 4GB.
However, since apps runs unmodified, a single process cannot break that 
barrier.


So, if you are running a single program that requires that lot of 
memory, PAE is not an option and you will need amd64.


OTOH, if you run several programs which don't singularly require more 
than 3GB of RAM, PAE might be a viable alternative to reinstalling.





Where would GCC fit in this regard, or Clang for that matter?


I don't really know, but I don't think it could make any difference.



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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-29 Thread Bill Tillman


 


 From: Fleuriot Damien m...@my.gd
To: birdf...@yahoo.com 
Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: i386 vs amd64
 


On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:36 PM, mike miskulin birdf...@yahoo.com wrote:

 About to build a replacement system for an older i386 setup.   A few
 years ago I had tried the amd64 port on it and found it was frustrating
 as things that just worked on i386 did not on amd64. IIRC ports were 
 large annoyance too.
 
 Now I have a new system with 8GB, etc,etc and wonder if I am best off to
 stick with i386 and PAE or is the amd64 version finally on a par or
 close enough that I would not likely have many issues like in the past?
 
 Thanks for your thoughts/(recent) experiences.


What port was that ?

I've never had a *single* problem due to using amd64 over i386.

From a professional point of view, we're using over 60 amd64 fbsd 8.0 8.1 8.2 
and 8.3 boxes at work and they work just fine.


I for one can recommend the 64 bits version.

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I have been using amd64 for at least 5 years now on mulitple systems and I 
don't know of any troubles like you're defining. And if you're using 8 GB of 
RAM then why waste 4 GB. i386 will not see anything above 4 GB. I'd say at 
least give it a try before you relent.
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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-29 Thread Jakub Lach
If it was from me, my system is without 32bit compat 
whatsoever, and this is not default setting on amd64.

Maybe on def. amd64 there are no problems, I don't 
know, nobody replied to my thread.



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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-29 Thread Ilya Kazakevich
Hello,

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 i386 will not see anything above 4 GB


Actually you *can* give access to 4Gb RAM for your system: PAE allows you
to use 36 bits instead of 32 to address your memory (and supported till
Pentium Pro) but that is only for OS (32bit apps would see 4Gb only).

Anyway, I have not seen any troubles with 64bit installations.

Ilya.
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i386 vs amd64

2012-11-28 Thread mike miskulin
About to build a replacement system for an older i386 setup.   A few
years ago I had tried the amd64 port on it and found it was frustrating
as things that just worked on i386 did not on amd64. IIRC ports were 
large annoyance too.

Now I have a new system with 8GB, etc,etc and wonder if I am best off to
stick with i386 and PAE or is the amd64 version finally on a par or
close enough that I would not likely have many issues like in the past?

Thanks for your thoughts/(recent) experiences.



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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-28 Thread Fleuriot Damien

On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:36 PM, mike miskulin birdf...@yahoo.com wrote:

 About to build a replacement system for an older i386 setup.   A few
 years ago I had tried the amd64 port on it and found it was frustrating
 as things that just worked on i386 did not on amd64. IIRC ports were 
 large annoyance too.
 
 Now I have a new system with 8GB, etc,etc and wonder if I am best off to
 stick with i386 and PAE or is the amd64 version finally on a par or
 close enough that I would not likely have many issues like in the past?
 
 Thanks for your thoughts/(recent) experiences.


What port was that ?

I've never had a *single* problem due to using amd64 over i386.

From a professional point of view, we're using over 60 amd64 fbsd 8.0 8.1 8.2 
and 8.3 boxes at work and they work just fine.


I for one can recommend the 64 bits version.

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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-28 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, mike miskulin wrote:


About to build a replacement system for an older i386 setup.   A few
years ago I had tried the amd64 port on it and found it was frustrating
as things that just worked on i386 did not on amd64. IIRC ports were
large annoyance too.

Now I have a new system with 8GB, etc,etc and wonder if I am best off to
stick with i386 and PAE or is the amd64 version finally on a par or
close enough that I would not likely have many issues like in the past?

Thanks for your thoughts/(recent) experiences.


Do you use emulators/wine?  If not, switch to amd64.  In fact, even if 
you do, switch to amd64 to use that 8G of memory.  Building 32-bit Wine 
on amd64 is a hassle, but packages are available and I think there is a 
64-bit port on the way.

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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-28 Thread mike miskulin

 What port was that ?
 
 I've never had a *single* problem due to using amd64 over i386.


Well I have to apologize, I've reached senility!  My past bad experience
was with netbsd amd64 afterwhich I bailed and went to FreeBSD i386
(thanks google).

But I guess the basic question remains - are there any considerations in
regards ports, linux emulation, etc that would sway me to remain i386?

Sorry about that!

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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-28 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:53:26 -0500, mike miskulin wrote:
 But I guess the basic question remains - are there any considerations in
 regards ports, linux emulation, etc that would sway me to remain i386?

The only problem might be if you want to use wine. As it has
been said, there are binary packages (wine_amd64, if I remember
correctly), but the rest of the system should run good on
amd64 as it did on i386.

Sidenote: I switched back from 8.2/amd64 to 8.2/i386 because
of three reasons (in fact, two reasons and one justification):
I had problems with wine, problems with nVidia's driver (plus
a faulty GPU), and I only have 2 GB RAM. Anywhere else, I have
not experienced problems with amd64.


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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-28 Thread Andrea Venturoli

On 11/28/12 18:49, Warren Block wrote:

On Wed, 28 Nov 2012, mike miskulin wrote:


About to build a replacement system for an older i386 setup.   A few
years ago I had tried the amd64 port on it and found it was frustrating
as things that just worked on i386 did not on amd64. IIRC ports were
large annoyance too.

Now I have a new system with 8GB, etc,etc and wonder if I am best off to
stick with i386 and PAE or is the amd64 version finally on a par or
close enough that I would not likely have many issues like in the past?

Thanks for your thoughts/(recent) experiences.


Do you use emulators/wine?  If not, switch to amd64.  In fact, even if
you do, switch to amd64 to use that 8G of memory.  Building 32-bit Wine
on amd64 is a hassle, but packages are available and I think there is a
64-bit port on the way.


I heard valgrind is another... in case you are a developer.

 bye
av.

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Re: i386 vs amd64

2012-11-28 Thread Rod Person
On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 19:25:59 +0100
Polytropon free...@edvax.de wrote:

 On Wed, 28 Nov 2012 12:53:26 -0500, mike miskulin wrote:
  But I guess the basic question remains - are there any
  considerations in regards ports, linux emulation, etc that would
  sway me to remain i386?
 
 The only problem might be if you want to use wine. As it has
 been said, there are binary packages (wine_amd64, if I remember
 correctly), but the rest of the system should run good on
 amd64 as it did on i386.
 
 Sidenote: I switched back from 8.2/amd64 to 8.2/i386 because
 of three reasons (in fact, two reasons and one justification):
 I had problems with wine, problems with nVidia's driver (plus
 a faulty GPU), and I only have 2 GB RAM. Anywhere else, I have
 not experienced problems with amd64.
 
 

The nvidia driver works fine now.

Linux emulation is only 32 bit though.

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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-27 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 25 November 2012 06:11, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 From ill...@gmail.com Sat Nov 24 16:09:29 2012
  On 22 November 2012 06:19, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
 wrote:
  It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page,
  whether I need this device in the kernel or not.
...
  hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x 
 chip=0x11031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
  device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'
  class  = bridge
  subclass   = HOST-PCI
  vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x03 card=0x30c2103c 
 chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
  device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]'
  class  = display
  subclass   = VGA
  bge0@pci0:16:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x30c2103c 
 chip=0x171314e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
  device = 'NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
  class  = network
  subclass   = ethernet
  siba_bwn0@pci0:48:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x1371103c 
 chip=0x431214e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
  vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
  device = 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g'
  class  = network
  cbb0@pci0:2:4:0:class=0x060700 card=0x30c2103c 
 chip=0x04761180 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02
  vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
  device = 'RL5c476 II'
  class  = bridge
  subclass   = PCI-CardBus
 
  You bring up a good point.  Your laptop is almost the same as mine,
   the graphics chip is connected via PCI Express.
  I should see if it builds  runs without agp.
 

 Looks like drm requires agp for the kernel to link correctly.
 Oh well.

 ...
 drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_free_memory':
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcba):
 undefined reference to `agp_fi
 nd_device'
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcd4):
 undefined reference to `agp_fr
 ee_memory'
 drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_init':
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xdb8):
 undefined reference to `agp_fi
 nd_device'
 /home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xe2f):
 undefined reference to `agp_ge
 t_info'
 *** [kernel] Error code 1
 ...

 ok, I get it. I think I built drm and agp
 together, hence I haven't encountered this
 error.

 Do you use radeon video driver?
 Do you use radeondrm device in kernel?
 This only place I see this is in
 src/sys/amd64/conf/NOTES.
 My understanding is that to get drm
 working with the radeon driver, I need
 to add radeondrm to the kernel, but again,
 I'm not sure.

Yes, I use the radeon driver in xorg,  I have
radeondrm in kernel.  I don't think you need to
build it in, as loading the module should work,
I just got in the habit a while back  can't seem
to quit now.

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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
From ill...@gmail.com Sat Nov 24 16:09:29 2012

On 22 November 2012 06:19, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk 
wrote:
 It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page,
 whether I need this device in the kernel or not.
 The pciconf -lv output is below. Or do I need to
 show dmesg?

 Please advise

 Thanks
 Anton


 hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x79101002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 Host Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 pcib1@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x79121002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib2@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x79141002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib3@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x79151002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib4@pci0:0:6:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x79161002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 ahci0@pci0:0:18:0:  class=0x01018f card=0x43801002 
chip=0x43801002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 ohci0@pci0:0:19:0:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x43871002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI0)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci1@pci0:0:19:1:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x43881002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI1)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci2@pci0:0:19:2:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x43891002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI2)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci3@pci0:0:19:3:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x438a1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI3)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci4@pci0:0:19:4:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x438b1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI4)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ehci0@pci0:0:19:5:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x43861002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 none0@pci0:0:20:0:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x43851002 rev=0x14 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 SMBus Controller'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = SMBus
 atapci0@pci0:0:20:1:class=0x010182 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x438c1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 IDE'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 hdac0@pci0:0:20:2:  class=0x040300 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x43831002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)'
 class  = multimedia
 subclass   = HDA
 isab0@pci0:0:20:3:  class=0x060100 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x438d1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-ISA
 pcib5@pci0:0:20:4:  class=0x060401 card=0x 
chip=0x43841002 

Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-25 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 hostb1@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11001022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology 
Configuration'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb2@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11011022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb3@pci0:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11021022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x 
chip=0x11031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 vgapci0@pci0:1:5:0: class=0x03 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x791f1002 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690M [Radeon X1200 Series]'
 class  = display
 subclass   = VGA
 bge0@pci0:16:0:0:   class=0x02 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x171314e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express'
 class  = network
 subclass   = ethernet
 siba_bwn0@pci0:48:0:0:  class=0x028000 card=0x1371103c 
chip=0x431214e4 rev=0x02 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation'
 device = 'BCM4311 802.11a/b/g'
 class  = network
 cbb0@pci0:2:4:0:class=0x060700 card=0x30c2103c 
chip=0x04761180 rev=0xb6 hdr=0x02
 vendor = 'Ricoh Co Ltd'
 device = 'RL5c476 II'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-CardBus

 You bring up a good point.  Your laptop is almost the same as mine,
  the graphics chip is connected via PCI Express.
 I should see if it builds  runs without agp.


Looks like drm requires agp for the kernel to link correctly.
Oh well.

...
drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_free_memory':
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcba):
undefined reference to `agp_fi
nd_device'
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xcd4):
undefined reference to `agp_fr
ee_memory'
drm_agpsupport.o: In function `drm_agp_init':
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xdb8):
undefined reference to `agp_fi
nd_device'
/home/svn/9.1/src/sys/dev/drm/drm_agpsupport.c:(.text+0xe2f):
undefined reference to `agp_ge
t_info'
*** [kernel] Error code 1
...

ok, I get it. I think I built drm and agp
together, hence I haven't encountered this
error.

Do you use radeon video driver?
Do you use radeondrm device in kernel?
This only place I see this is in
src/sys/amd64/conf/NOTES.
My understanding is that to get drm
working with the radeon driver, I need
to add radeondrm to the kernel, but again,
I'm not sure.

Anton

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Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 22 November 2012 06:19, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page,
 whether I need this device in the kernel or not.
 The pciconf -lv output is below. Or do I need to
 show dmesg?

 Please advise

 Thanks
 Anton


 hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79101002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 Host Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 pcib1@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79121002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib2@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79141002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib3@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79151002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib4@pci0:0:6:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79161002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 ahci0@pci0:0:18:0:  class=0x01018f card=0x43801002 chip=0x43801002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 ohci0@pci0:0:19:0:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43871002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI0)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci1@pci0:0:19:1:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43881002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI1)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci2@pci0:0:19:2:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43891002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI2)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci3@pci0:0:19:3:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438a1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI3)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci4@pci0:0:19:4:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438b1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI4)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ehci0@pci0:0:19:5:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43861002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 none0@pci0:0:20:0:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43851002 
 rev=0x14 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 SMBus Controller'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = SMBus
 atapci0@pci0:0:20:1:class=0x010182 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438c1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 IDE'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 hdac0@pci0:0:20:2:  class=0x040300 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43831002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)'
 class  = multimedia
 subclass   = HDA
 isab0@pci0:0:20:3:  class=0x060100 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438d1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-ISA
 pcib5@pci0:0:20:4:  class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x43841002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 hostb1@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11001022 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology 
 Configuration'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb2@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11011022 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb3@pci0:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11021022 
 rev=0x00 

Re: do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-24 Thread ill...@gmail.com
On 24 November 2012 10:14, ill...@gmail.com ill...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 22 November 2012 06:19, Anton Shterenlikht me...@bristol.ac.uk wrote:
 It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page,
 whether I need this device in the kernel or not.
 The pciconf -lv output is below. Or do I need to
 show dmesg?

 Please advise

 Thanks
 Anton


 hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79101002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 Host Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 pcib1@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79121002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib2@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79141002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib3@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79151002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 pcib4@pci0:0:6:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79161002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2)'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 ahci0@pci0:0:18:0:  class=0x01018f card=0x43801002 chip=0x43801002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 ohci0@pci0:0:19:0:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43871002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI0)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci1@pci0:0:19:1:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43881002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI1)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci2@pci0:0:19:2:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43891002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI2)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci3@pci0:0:19:3:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438a1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI3)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ohci4@pci0:0:19:4:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438b1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI4)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 ehci0@pci0:0:19:5:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43861002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = USB
 none0@pci0:0:20:0:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43851002 
 rev=0x14 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 SMBus Controller'
 class  = serial bus
 subclass   = SMBus
 atapci0@pci0:0:20:1:class=0x010182 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438c1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 IDE'
 class  = mass storage
 subclass   = ATA
 hdac0@pci0:0:20:2:  class=0x040300 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43831002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)'
 class  = multimedia
 subclass   = HDA
 isab0@pci0:0:20:3:  class=0x060100 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438d1002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-ISA
 pcib5@pci0:0:20:4:  class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x43841002 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x01
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
 device = 'SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = PCI-PCI
 hostb1@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11001022 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology 
 Configuration'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 hostb2@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11011022 
 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
 device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'
 class  = bridge
 subclass   = HOST-PCI
 

do I need agp(4) on my amd64 laptop

2012-11-22 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
It is not clear for me from the agp(4) man page,
whether I need this device in the kernel or not.
The pciconf -lv output is below. Or do I need to
show dmesg?

Please advise

Thanks
Anton


hostb0@pci0:0:0:0:  class=0x06 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79101002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 Host Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
pcib1@pci0:0:1:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79121002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (Internal gfx)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib2@pci0:0:4:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79141002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib3@pci0:0:5:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79151002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 1)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
pcib4@pci0:0:6:0:   class=0x060400 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x79161002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'RS690 PCI to PCI Bridge (PCI Express Port 2)'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
ahci0@pci0:0:18:0:  class=0x01018f card=0x43801002 chip=0x43801002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 Non-Raid-5 SATA'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = ATA
ohci0@pci0:0:19:0:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43871002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI0)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci1@pci0:0:19:1:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43881002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI1)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci2@pci0:0:19:2:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43891002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI2)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci3@pci0:0:19:3:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438a1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI3)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ohci4@pci0:0:19:4:  class=0x0c0310 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438b1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB (OHCI4)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
ehci0@pci0:0:19:5:  class=0x0c0320 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43861002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 USB Controller (EHCI)'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = USB
none0@pci0:0:20:0:  class=0x0c0500 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43851002 rev=0x14 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SBx00 SMBus Controller'
class  = serial bus
subclass   = SMBus
atapci0@pci0:0:20:1:class=0x010182 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438c1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 IDE'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = ATA
hdac0@pci0:0:20:2:  class=0x040300 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x43831002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)'
class  = multimedia
subclass   = HDA
isab0@pci0:0:20:3:  class=0x060100 card=0x30c2103c chip=0x438d1002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SB600 PCI to LPC Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-ISA
pcib5@pci0:0:20:4:  class=0x060401 card=0x chip=0x43841002 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x01
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI'
device = 'SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge'
class  = bridge
subclass   = PCI-PCI
hostb1@pci0:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11001022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hostb2@pci0:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11011022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hostb3@pci0:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x11021022 rev=0x00 
hdr=0x00
vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices [AMD]'
device = 'K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller'
class  = bridge
subclass   = HOST-PCI
hostb4@pci0:0:24:3: 

valgrind on pure amd64 (64 bit system _only_)

2012-11-21 Thread Jakub Lach
What's state of valgrind port on pure amd64 system?

Here, it core dumps upon linking both with clang and gcc47, 
with complaint that looks suspicious (expected i386 not X86_64
or something to that effect).



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nvidia driver on amd64 (for asus nvidia gt 610)

2012-10-27 Thread Gary Aitken
running 9.0 release

Being frustrated with my radeon hd-5550 video card which occasionally
(once a week or so) goes into some kind of reset loop, filling up
Xorg.0.log and crashing the system because /var is full...

I picked up an asus nvidia gt 610.
Downloaded the nvidia driver and tried to build it.

make ominously reports:
  ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386-freebsd
  (nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64-freebsd (nvidia.ko) is not
supported.

Where is the elf32-i386-freebsd stuff coming from?
I unpacked the driver in a tmp directory and did a make install there.

I found the following which implied it is a make problem in 9.0:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-toolchain/2011-August/000265.html

I'm guessing it can be made to work but I need to define appropriate make
architecture variables, and I'm not sure how to do dat.
Hints?

BTW, can anyone explain why Xorg.*.log doesn't get closed and a new file
opened when it gets rather large and then rotate the way syslogs normally do?
It seems to rotate only when the server is restarted, or at least that's all
I've observed.

Thanks,

Gary



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nvidia driver on amd64 (for asus nvidia gt 610)

2012-10-27 Thread Gary Aitken
running 9.0 release

Being frustrated with my radeon hd-5550 video card which occasionally
(once a week or so) goes into some kind of reset loop, filling up
Xorg.0.log and crashing the system because /var is full...

I picked up an asus nvidia gt 610.
Downloaded the nvidia driver and tried to build it.

make ominously reports:
  ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386-freebsd 
  (nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64-freebsd (nvidia.ko) is not supported.

Where is the elf32-i386-freebsd stuff coming from?
I just unpacked the driver in a tmp directory and did a make install there.

I found the following which implied it is a make problem in 9.0:

http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-toolchain/2011-August/000265.html

I'm guessing it can be made to work but I need to define appropriate make
architecture variables, and I'm not sure how to do dat.
Hints?

BTW, can anyone explain why Xorg.*.log doesn't get closed and a new file 
opened when it gets rather large and then rotate the way syslogs normally do?
It seems to rotate only when the server is restarted, or at least that's all
I've observed.

Thanks,

Gary
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Re: nvidia driver on amd64 (for asus nvidia gt 610)

2012-10-27 Thread Gary Aitken
On 10/27/12 07:50, Gary Aitken wrote:
 running 9.0 release
 
 Being frustrated with my radeon hd-5550 video card which occasionally
 (once a week or so) goes into some kind of reset loop, filling up
 Xorg.0.log and crashing the system because /var is full...
 
 I picked up an asus nvidia gt 610.
 Downloaded the nvidia driver and tried to build it.
 
 make ominously reports:
ld: Relocatable linking with relocations from format elf32-i386-freebsd
(nv-kernel.o) to format elf64-x86-64-freebsd (nvidia.ko) is not 
 supported.
 
 Where is the elf32-i386-freebsd stuff coming from?
 I just unpacked the driver in a tmp directory and did a make install there.
 
 I found the following which implied it is a make problem in 9.0:
 
 http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-toolchain/2011-August/000265.html
 
 I'm guessing it can be made to work but I need to define appropriate make
 architecture variables, and I'm not sure how to do dat.
 Hints?
 
 BTW, can anyone explain why Xorg.*.log doesn't get closed and a new file
 opened when it gets rather large and then rotate the way syslogs normally do?
 It seems to rotate only when the server is restarted, or at least that's all
 I've observed.

My apologies for the original double posting; 
saw a temporary reject in my maillog and thought it would turn into a real
one due to a past problem.

I found the following patch and applied it, 

  http://www.mail-archive.com/freebsd-toolchain@freebsd.org/msg00256.html

Also discovered I had downloaded the x86 version instead of the 64bit version.
make CC=clang CXX=clang++ install seemed to work; now on to testing it.

Sorry for the mixup.

Gary
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'svn up' problem on amd64

2012-10-21 Thread Darrel

Hello,

Advice?  I have not seen this before:

(685) @ 2:22:16 cd /usr/src
(686) @ 2:22:18 svn up
Updating '.':
Skipped 'sys' -- Node remains in conflict
At revision 241794.
Summary of conflicts:
  Skipped paths: 1
(687) @ 2:22:43

- more background information:


ZFS Subsystem ReportSun Oct 21 02:32:36 2012


System Information:

Kernel Version: 901000 (osreldate)
Hardware Platform:  amd64
Processor Architecture: amd64

ZFS Storage pool Version:   28
ZFS Filesystem Version: 5

FreeBSD 9.1-RC2 #0 r241106: Mon Oct 1 18:26:44 UTC 2012 root
 2:32AM  up 4 days, 18:32, 7 users, load averages: 0.14, 0.10, 0.08



Darrel
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Re: 'svn up' problem on amd64

2012-10-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 21/10/2012 07:35, Darrel wrote:
 Advice?  I have not seen this before:
 
 (685) @ 2:22:16 cd /usr/src
 (686) @ 2:22:18 svn up
 Updating '.':
 Skipped 'sys' -- Node remains in conflict
 At revision 241794.
 Summary of conflicts:
   Skipped paths: 1
 (687) @ 2:22:43

For some reason svn thinks your local copy of sys conflicts with the
copy from the repo.  That could happen if you have local patches or
similar, but svn would usually prompt you to merge any such.  Also this
seems to have affected people completely innocent of any such changes.

Assuming you've checked out the stable/9 branch then I think this
(untested) command should resolve the problems:

   # cd /usr/src
   # svn merge --accept theirs-full ^/stable/9

Use 'svn info' to see what the URL setting for your repo is -- you can
just paste that in as is instead of '^/stable/9', or you can use the
shorthand '^' which stands for the text from the 'Repository Root'
setting plus the rest of the URL string.

Note that the 'theirs-full' method of resolving conflicts will tend to
wipe out any local changes you may have.  If that is a concern, then you
could try using the 'edit' method instead.  (As the name suggests, this
puts you in an editor showing the conflicting merge results, and
requires you to edit things into what the result of the mmerge should
have been.)

Cheers,

Matthew

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8.3 stable or 9.0 stable amd64 iso with mfi driver changes of May 18, 2012

2012-09-14 Thread Jean Christofferson
I am trying to install FreeBSD stable - either 8.3 or 9.0  - on a Dell  
420 with Perc H310 LSI PCI Express SAS Rain controllers.


Although the physical disks are present and recognized by the BIOS the  
sysinstall does not see the disks.  I think the issue is mfi driver  
and was added to the stable release May 18, 2012.


http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=mfisektion=4manpath=FreeBSD+8.3-RELEASE

I do not have an environment to download the source and make my own  
installation disk.  The 8.3 image on the ftp site is dated April 9,  
2012 and the 9.0 is Jan 2012.


Is there some place I can download an amd63 iso that was includes the  
mfi driver update done on May 18, 2012?


Or perhaps that is not really the issue at all - any help that anyone  
can provide will be welcome!


Thanks,

Jean


Jean Christofferson
je...@relevantpower.com
Relevant Power, Inc.
www.relevanttools.com
415-472-8400 
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Re: 8.3 stable or 9.0 stable amd64 iso with mfi driver changes of May 18, 2012

2012-09-14 Thread Jean Christofferson

Kevin,

Thank you for your response.  It is great to get confirmation and I  
will try with 9.1-RC1


I DO have on board Broadcom 5720 NIC.  Nice to know what my next  
problem is likely to be.  Hopefully that will be easy to solve if I  
install another NIC card.


Thanks!

Jean


Jean Christofferson
je...@relevantpower.com
Relevant Power, Inc.
www.relevanttools.com

On Sep 14, 2012, at 6:14 PM, kpn...@pobox.com wrote:


On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 04:45:49PM -0700, Jean Christofferson wrote:
I am trying to install FreeBSD stable - either 8.3 or 9.0  - on a  
Dell

420 with Perc H310 LSI PCI Express SAS Raid controllers.

Although the physical disks are present and recognized by the BIOS  
the

sysinstall does not see the disks.  I think the issue is mfi driver
and was added to the stable release May 18, 2012.


Yup, the 12G machines came out when the paint was drying on 8.3. So  
there

isn't a -stable release with the updated driver.

The new mfi driver is in 9.1-RC1 if you are OK with a pre-release.

I hope you don't have the Broadcom 5720 NIC like the R620. The FreeBSD
driver (bge) isn't finished yet. At least, I don't remember seeing  
it go
into the tree. It's known to _not_ work on the R620 and I believe  
R720.

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Re: Firefox 14.0.1 won't build under 8.3 on amd64

2012-08-17 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== John Levine wrote on Mon 13.Aug'12 at  5:41:52 - ==

 Oops, it's 14.0.1 I'm trying to build.  13.0.0.1 is what I have installed now.
 
 In article 20120813053621.24629.qm...@joyce.lan you write:

did you select the option to use optimised CFLAGS when you run make
config in the port directory?

I remember I had this problem on 8.2 earlier this year/last year and
deselecting that option made it build. I don't know if that has been
fixed/changed since I built that port and it was for an earlier version
of firefox. I recall the same was true for Thunderbird at that time. You
try that first?
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Firefox 13.0.1.1 won't build under 8.3 on amd64

2012-08-12 Thread John Levine
I'm reasonably sure I have the png and sqlite3 libraries built as
needed, but the build still barfs when compiling the SSL function
nsNSSErrors.cpp.  The end of the build log is copied below.

I don't have the logs handy, but Thunderbird fails the same way.  Any
suggestions?

R's,
John


c++ -o nsNSSErrors.o -c -I../../../../dist/stl_wrappers 
-I../../../../dist/system_wrappers -include 
../../../.././../config/gcc_hidden.h -DNSS_ENABLE_ECC -DDLL_PREFIX=\lib\ 
-DDLL_SUFFIX=\.so\  -DMOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM 
-DXPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT=1 -DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM 
-DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API -D_IMPL_NS_GFX -D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET 
-DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES  -DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API 
-DOSTYPE=\FreeBSD8\ -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I../../../.././../security/manager/ssl/src -I. -I../../../../dist/include 
-I../../../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/local/include/nspr -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include 
-I/usr/local/include-fPIC -I/usr/local/include/nss 
-I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  -I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti -Wall 
-Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror=return-type -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy 
-Wno-overlength-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros -Wcast-align 
-O2 
 -pipe -f
 no-strict-aliasing -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar 
-ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer  -I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include/nss/nss 
 -I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT -include ../../../../mozilla-config.h 
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSErrors.cpp
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHash::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:2879:
 error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHMAC::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:3070:
 error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
gmake[5]: *** [nsNSSComponent.o] Error 1
gmake[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
gmake[5]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl/src'
gmake[4]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager'
gmake[2]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 1



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Re: Firefox 14.0.1 won't build under 8.3 on amd64

2012-08-12 Thread John Levine
Oops, it's 14.0.1 I'm trying to build.  13.0.0.1 is what I have installed now.

In article 20120813053621.24629.qm...@joyce.lan you write:
I'm reasonably sure I have the png and sqlite3 libraries built as
needed, but the build still barfs when compiling the SSL function
nsNSSErrors.cpp.  The end of the build log is copied below.

I don't have the logs handy, but Thunderbird fails the same way.  Any
suggestions?

R's,
John


c++ -o nsNSSErrors.o -c -I../../../../dist/stl_wrappers 
-I../../../../dist/system_wrappers
-include ../../../.././../config/gcc_hidden.h -DNSS_ENABLE_ECC 
-DDLL_PREFIX=\lib\
-DDLL_SUFFIX=\.so\  -DMOZ_GLUE_IN_PROGRAM 
-DXPCOM_TRANSLATE_NSGM_ENTRY_POINT=1
-DMOZILLA_INTERNAL_API -D_IMPL_NS_COM -DEXPORT_XPT_API -DEXPORT_XPTC_API 
-D_IMPL_NS_GFX
-D_IMPL_NS_WIDGET -DIMPL_XREAPI -DIMPL_NS_NET -DIMPL_THEBES  
-DSTATIC_EXPORTABLE_JS_API
-DOSTYPE=\FreeBSD8\ -DOSARCH=FreeBSD -I/usr/local/include/nss -I..
+ /../../.././../security/manager/ssl/src -I. -I../../../../dist/include
-I../../../../dist/include/nsprpub -I/usr/local/include  
-I/usr/local/include/nspr
-I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include-fPIC
-I/usr/local/include/nss -I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  
-I/usr/local/include -fno-rtti -Wall
-Wpointer-arith -Woverloaded-virtual -Werror=return-type -Wno-ctor-dtor-privacy
-Wno-overlength-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-variadic-macros 
-Wcast-align -O2 
 -pipe -f
 no-strict-aliasing -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fshort-wchar 
 -ffunction-sections
-fdata-sections -pipe  -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer  
-I/usr/local/include/nss
-I/usr/local/include/nss/nss  -I/usr/local/include -DMOZILLA_CLIENT 
-include
../../../../mozilla-config.h
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSErrors.cpp
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In
member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHash::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:2879:
error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:
 In
member function 'virtual nsresult nsCryptoHMAC::Finish(bool, 
nsACString_internal)':
/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/security/manager/ssl/src/nsNSSComponent.cpp:3070:
error: 'BTOA_DataToAscii' was not declared in this scope
gmake[5]: *** [nsNSSComponent.o] Error 1
gmake[5]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
gmake[5]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl/src'
gmake[4]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[4]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager/ssl'
gmake[3]: *** [libs] Error 2
gmake[3]: Leaving directory
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3/security/manager'
gmake[2]: *** [libs_tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake[1]: *** [tier_platform] Error 2
gmake[1]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/www/firefox/work/mozilla-release/obj-x86_64-portbld-freebsd8.3'
gmake: *** [default] Error 2
*** Error code 1



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Re: bsdinstall to jail aborted (9.0-RELEASE-p3, amd64)

2012-07-29 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hi Darren,

On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 04:57:43 +0400
Darren Baginski kick...@yandex.com wrote:

 No, feel free to open if you feel it needed.
 I would say it's more a feature request, but without it, bsdinstall not
 usable on non release environments.

thanks, I submitted the PR here: 
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=170264

Kind regards,
Matthias


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bsdinstall to jail aborted (9.0-RELEASE-p3, amd64)

2012-07-28 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hello,

currently I experienced an unexpected behavior of the FreeBSD bsdinstall 
installer. Some weeks ago I could use it sucessfully to create a jail 
environment with

# bsdinstall jail /jails/myjail

Today I tried to repeat this on another system(2) and it fails after the 
selection of the to-be-used mirror. Also re-trying it on the original system(1) 
leads to an error but a different one. Since then I upgraded from 9.0-RELEASE 
to 9.0-RELEASE-p3 using freebsd-update.

Here are the symptoms:

(2) FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 amd64: After typing bsdinstall... it brings me 
directly to the mirror selection list, but after selecting a mirror it aborts 
with an error message An installation step has beeen aborted. Would you like 
to restart the installer or exit the installer?

(1) FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 i386: After typing bsdinstall... it brings me to 
the distribution select dialog. After selection of the distribution set, it 
shows the mirror selection dialog. After selecting a mirror it aborts with a 
fetch error Error while fetching /base.txz: Invalid URL scheme

I tried different mirrors, too. And they all seem to be basically online - 
pointing an FTP client to them showed no errors.

So what am I doing wrong? Does bsdinstall maintain some hidden configuration 
file which may influence its behavior? The environment variables mentioned in 
bsdinstall(8) are not set on both systems. Or is there a known issue with 
9.0-RELEASE-p3 which appears different on amd64 and i386 systems?

It would be great if anyone could validate this. 

Kind regards,
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Re: bsdinstall to jail aborted (9.0-RELEASE-p3, amd64)

2012-07-28 Thread Darren Baginski


28.07.2012, 13:46, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.net:
 Hello,

 currently I experienced an unexpected behavior of the FreeBSD bsdinstall 
 installer. Some weeks ago I could use it sucessfully to create a jail 
 environment with

 # bsdinstall jail /jails/myjail

 Today I tried to repeat this on another system(2) and it fails after the 
 selection of the to-be-used mirror. Also re-trying it on the original 
 system(1) leads to an error but a different one. Since then I upgraded from 
 9.0-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE-p3 using freebsd-update.

 Here are the symptoms:

 (2) FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 amd64: After typing bsdinstall... it brings me 
 directly to the mirror selection list, but after selecting a mirror it aborts 
 with an error message An installation step has beeen aborted. Would you like 
 to restart the installer or exit the installer?

 (1) FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 i386: After typing bsdinstall... it brings me to 
 the distribution select dialog. After selection of the distribution set, it 
 shows the mirror selection dialog. After selecting a mirror it aborts with a 
 fetch error Error while fetching /base.txz: Invalid URL scheme

 I tried different mirrors, too. And they all seem to be basically online - 
 pointing an FTP client to them showed no errors.

 So what am I doing wrong? Does bsdinstall maintain some hidden configuration 
 file which may influence its behavior? The environment variables mentioned in 
 bsdinstall(8) are not set on both systems. Or is there a known issue with 
 9.0-RELEASE-p3 which appears different on amd64 and i386 systems?

 It would be great if anyone could validate this.

I did a quick test on 9.1-PRERELEASE,  ant bsdinstall trying to fetch 
9.1-PRERELEASE files, which it surely can't find.
There must be an option like 'TARGET' to specify exact version to fetch like 
it's the case for Debian debootsrap.


 Kind regards,
 Matthias

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Re: bsdinstall to jail aborted (9.0-RELEASE-p3, amd64)

2012-07-28 Thread Darren Baginski


28.07.2012, 17:13, Darren Baginski kick...@yandex.com:
 28.07.2012, 13:46, Matthias Petermann matth...@d2ux.net:

  Hello,

  currently I experienced an unexpected behavior of the FreeBSD bsdinstall 
 installer. Some weeks ago I could use it sucessfully to create a jail 
 environment with

  # bsdinstall jail /jails/myjail

  Today I tried to repeat this on another system(2) and it fails after the 
 selection of the to-be-used mirror. Also re-trying it on the original 
 system(1) leads to an error but a different one. Since then I upgraded from 
 9.0-RELEASE to 9.0-RELEASE-p3 using freebsd-update.

  Here are the symptoms:

  (2) FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 amd64: After typing bsdinstall... it brings me 
 directly to the mirror selection list, but after selecting a mirror it 
 aborts with an error message An installation step has beeen aborted. Would 
 you like to restart the installer or exit the installer?

  (1) FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p3 i386: After typing bsdinstall... it brings me 
 to the distribution select dialog. After selection of the distribution set, 
 it shows the mirror selection dialog. After selecting a mirror it aborts 
 with a fetch error Error while fetching /base.txz: Invalid URL scheme

  I tried different mirrors, too. And they all seem to be basically online - 
 pointing an FTP client to them showed no errors.

  So what am I doing wrong? Does bsdinstall maintain some hidden 
 configuration file which may influence its behavior? The environment 
 variables mentioned in bsdinstall(8) are not set on both systems. Or is 
 there a known issue with 9.0-RELEASE-p3 which appears different on amd64 and 
 i386 systems?

  It would be great if anyone could validate this.

 I did a quick test on 9.1-PRERELEASE,  ant bsdinstall trying to fetch 
 9.1-PRERELEASE files, which it surely can't find.
 There must be an option like 'TARGET' to specify exact version to fetch like 
 it's the case for Debian debootsrap.


What I did next is:

#diff -u mirrorselect.orig mirrorselect
--- mirrorselect.orig   2012-07-28 12:55:33.0 +
+++ mirrorselect2012-07-28 12:58:49.0 +
@@ -192,7 +192,7 @@
 MIRROR_BUTTON=$?
 exec 3-
 
-BSDINSTALL_DISTSITE=$MIRROR/pub/FreeBSD/releases/`uname -m`/`uname -p`/`uname 
-r`
+BSDINSTALL_DISTSITE=$MIRROR/pub/FreeBSD/releases/`uname -m`/`uname 
-p`/$TARGET
 
 case $MIRROR_BUTTON in
 $DIALOG_CANCEL)

and then:
#export TARGET=9.0-RELEASE
and again
#bsdinstall jail  /tmp/tstenv

Got a working environment after that.
I thing release/arch selection has to be a part of the installer, either 
directly or via environment variables.


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Re: bsdinstall to jail aborted (9.0-RELEASE-p3, amd64)

2012-07-28 Thread Matthias Petermann
Hi Darren,

thanks for diving into the issue. I looked through the mentioned places in the 
bsdinstall code and understand it now. 

On Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:24:48 +0400
Darren Baginski kick...@yandex.com wrote:
 I thing release/arch selection has to be a part of the installer, either 
 directly or via environment variables.

Yes, I think so too. I guess there usually no FTP directories created for patch 
level releases like 9.0-RELEASE-p3? Your proposal to introduce a new 
environment variable like TARGET makes sense. This could work like an override 
- when it is not set it can fall back to the default (using uname -r which 
makes sense for the installation media).

Should I file a PR or did you already?

Thanks,
Matthias

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Re: amd64, 57600 serial install help

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Macdonald

On 21/07/2012 22:06, Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim wrote:

I assume you have compiled the bootblocks as per the instruction in the 
handbook.

Second, do you have more than one serial port on the box because FreeBSD can 
only work its serial console magic on only one port at a time.

If you redirect your IPMI serial console or just a normal serial console, take 
note it's interrupt number in the BIOS.

You'll need to append the 0x10 flags to your UART device in device.hints file 
if the you plug in the cable at a non-default port.


i have submitted a PR re this as a serial install on 8.3 works fine.

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amd64, 57600 serial install help

2012-07-21 Thread Paul Macdonald


what am i doing wrong here?

From rebuilding the install iso and from the handbook instructions 
here: 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html

which suggests that in /boot/loader.conf only

console=comconsole

is required,

i have tried this and also explicity setting speed in boot/loader.conf

console=comconsole
comconsole_speed=57600

i have also tried having the settings i use to access via serial post 
install

ie:

 /etc/ttys:ttyu0   /usr/libexec/getty std.57600  vt100   on secure
and /boot/config:  -D

but same result, install stops ( or goes elsewhere at point below)

It does boot stage 1 and stage 2 then i get nothing?

test serial output:
-
CD Loader 1.2
r Configuration Menu ...
Building the boot loader arguments
Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
Relocating the loader and the BTX
Starting the BTX loader

BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02
Consoles: internal video/keyboard
BIOS CD is cd0 in 5 sec..
BIOS drive A: is disk0
BIOS drive C: is disk1
BIOS 640kB/3668736kB available memory

FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
(r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu, Tue Jan 3 06:51:49 UTC 2012)
 



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Re: amd64, 57600 serial install help

2012-07-21 Thread Ihsan Junaidi Ibrahim
I assume you have compiled the bootblocks as per the instruction in the 
handbook.

Second, do you have more than one serial port on the box because FreeBSD can 
only work its serial console magic on only one port at a time.

If you redirect your IPMI serial console or just a normal serial console, take 
note it's interrupt number in the BIOS.

You'll need to append the 0x10 flags to your UART device in device.hints file 
if the you plug in the cable at a non-default port.

ihsan

On Jul 22, 2012, at 1:47 AM, Paul Macdonald wrote:

 
 what am i doing wrong here?
 
 From rebuilding the install iso and from the handbook instructions here: 
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install-advanced.html
 which suggests that in /boot/loader.conf only
 
 console=comconsole
 
 is required,
 
 i have tried this and also explicity setting speed in boot/loader.conf
 
 console=comconsole
 comconsole_speed=57600
 
 i have also tried having the settings i use to access via serial post install
 ie:
 
 /etc/ttys:ttyu0   /usr/libexec/getty std.57600  vt100   on secure
 and /boot/config:  -D
 
 but same result, install stops ( or goes elsewhere at point below)
 
 It does boot stage 1 and stage 2 then i get nothing?
 
 test serial output:
 -
 CD Loader 1.2
 r Configuration Menu ...
 Building the boot loader arguments
 Looking up /BOOT/LOADER... Found
 Relocating the loader and the BTX
 Starting the BTX loader
 
 BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.02
 Consoles: internal video/keyboard
 BIOS CD is cd0 in 5 sec..
 BIOS drive A: is disk0
 BIOS drive C: is disk1
 BIOS 640kB/3668736kB available memory
 
 FreeBSD/x86 bootstrap loader, Revision 1.1
 (r...@farrell.cse.buffalo.edu, Tue Jan 3 06:51:49 UTC 2012)
 
  
 
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Re: Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64

2012-05-21 Thread Mickaël Maillot
2012/5/19 Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com:
 On 05/19/2012 02:28 PM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 05/17/12 07:54, Любомир Григоров wrote:

 We have to wait, unfortunately. I am using a Linux partition with Wine
 meanwhile. As long as it's not mainstream, it will be hard to do. Not to
 mention port is at 1.4.

 FreeBSD have 2 wine- ports. :)
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-1stype=allsektion=all
 wine for 1.4 and wine-devel for 1.5

 But i can't help with Diablo 3.
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    a user is trying  but  at the moment  is plague with wine errors.

   http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15659

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i played the beta with patched wine (on 1.5.1 and 1.5.2)
now i play D3 with 1.5.4 without issues, just an agent.exe crash at
start but after that it works well.
some infos:
- installer does not work, i installed the game under windows +
virtualbox and cp the folder
- launcher does not work: wine32 Diablo\ III.exe -launch to bypass it
- i played with patched 1.5.4 with older AcceptEx fix 4 patches +
perl tools/make_requests
- change screen resolution crash the game but works

i have more than 60h played with only one crash.
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Re: Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64

2012-05-21 Thread Mickaël Maillot
2012/5/21 Mickaël Maillot mickael.mail...@gmail.com:
 2012/5/19 Edward M eam1edw...@gmail.com:
 On 05/19/2012 02:28 PM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote:

 On 05/17/12 07:54, Любомир Григоров wrote:

 We have to wait, unfortunately. I am using a Linux partition with Wine
 meanwhile. As long as it's not mainstream, it will be hard to do. Not to
 mention port is at 1.4.

 FreeBSD have 2 wine- ports. :)
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-1stype=allsektion=all
 wine for 1.4 and wine-devel for 1.5

 But i can't help with Diablo 3.
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   http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15659

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 i played the beta with patched wine (on 1.5.1 and 1.5.2)
 now i play D3 with 1.5.4 without issues, just an agent.exe crash at
 start but after that it works well.
 some infos:
 - installer does not work, i installed the game under windows +
 virtualbox and cp the folder
 - launcher does not work: wine32 Diablo\ III.exe -launch to bypass it
 - i played with patched 1.5.4 with older AcceptEx fix 4 patches +
 perl tools/make_requests
 - change screen resolution crash the game but works

 i have more than 60h played with only one crash.

tested on 2 systems:
FreeBSD home.freelooser.fr 9.0-STABLE FreeBSD 9.0-STABLE #2 r233697:
Fri Mar 30 13:15:50 CEST 2012
r...@home.freelooser.fr:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FNEUFNEU  amd64
and
FreeBSD fneufneu.secuserve.net 8.2-STABLE FreeBSD 8.2-STABLE #4
r226057M: Thu Oct  6 16:43:50 CEST 2011
r...@fneufneu.secuserve.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

all my system use xorg-dev trunk (WITH_NEW_XORG=yes for xorg-server
1.12.1) and nvidia-driver 295.49 !!
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Re: Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64

2012-05-19 Thread lokada...@gmx.de

On 05/17/12 07:54, Любомир Григоров wrote:

We have to wait, unfortunately. I am using a Linux partition with Wine
meanwhile. As long as it's not mainstream, it will be hard to do. Not to
mention port is at 1.4.

FreeBSD have 2 wine- ports. :)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-1stype=allsektion=all
wine for 1.4 and wine-devel for 1.5

But i can't help with Diablo 3.
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Re: Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64

2012-05-19 Thread Edward M

On 05/19/2012 02:28 PM, lokada...@gmx.de wrote:

On 05/17/12 07:54, Любомир Григоров wrote:

We have to wait, unfortunately. I am using a Linux partition with Wine
meanwhile. As long as it's not mainstream, it will be hard to do. Not to
mention port is at 1.4.

FreeBSD have 2 wine- ports. :)
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=wine-1stype=allsektion=all
wine for 1.4 and wine-devel for 1.5

But i can't help with Diablo 3.
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a user is trying  but  at the moment  is plague with wine errors.

   http://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?t=15659
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Wine for Diablo 3 on FreeBSD 9.0R amd64

2012-05-16 Thread alphachi
Can anybody play diablo 3 with wine on FreeBSD 9R amd64?

Wine 1.5.4,1 64bit can't running Diablo III perhaps because of Agent.exe.

see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=versioniId=25953.

Thanks!
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