Re: NOPROFILE is deprecated in favor of NO_PROFILE

2005-11-08 Thread E. J. Cerejo
get the > same > > warning all the time > ""/usr/share/mk/bsd.compat.mk", > > line 36: warning: NOPROFILE is deprecated in favor > of > > NO_PROFILE" does anyone know on how to fix this? > thank you. > > > > EJC > > www.only7bucks.com

Re: NOPROFILE is deprecated in favor of NO_PROFILE

2005-11-08 Thread Josh Tolbert
On Tue, Nov 08, 2005 at 10:51:01PM -0300, E. J. Cerejo wrote: > Hello, > > I just finished upgrading from FBSD 5.4 to 6.x stable > and now if I want to upgrade any port I get the same > warning all the time ""/usr/share/mk/bsd.compat.mk", > line 36: warning: NO

NOPROFILE is deprecated in favor of NO_PROFILE

2005-11-08 Thread E. J. Cerejo
Hello, I just finished upgrading from FBSD 5.4 to 6.x stable and now if I want to upgrade any port I get the same warning all the time ""/usr/share/mk/bsd.compat.mk", line 36: warning: NOPROFILE is deprecated in favor of NO_PROFILE" does anyone know on how to fix t

Swapless system: processes killed in favor of disk cache?

2005-09-13 Thread Martin Hedenfalk
Hello list, We're running a swapless FreeBSD 4.10 system. Although we do have a disk in this particular system, it is currently not used as swap. The problem we're experiencing is that when storing a large file on the disk, a lot of memory is used (same as the size of the file). This leads t

RE: favor

2005-02-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 11:06:13PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >> > > Actually, I was referring more to the idea of posting my responces to > other people questions. For instance, I recently posted several > responces for the thread about xhost and x authentication

Re: favor

2005-02-09 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Tue, Feb 08, 2005 at 11:06:13PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren M. Lang > > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:33 PM > > To: freebsd-question

RE: favor

2005-02-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Loren M. Lang > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:33 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > What if I wanted to put up a page of emails that I wr

Re: favor

2005-02-08 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 11:43:32AM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Mike Hauber writes: > > > MH> But that's different in that it was never released to a public forum > MH> in the first place (explicitly or otherwise). > > I'm not sure what you mean by "public forum." A server accessible from

Re: favor

2005-02-08 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Mon, Feb 07, 2005 at 05:16:22PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski typed: > > DG> So it helps the copyright situation, but breaks the usefulness of > DG> any archive. > > The copyright situation is an unavoidable legal mandate, not an option. > You cannot defend against an infringement action by saying

RE: favor

2005-02-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:58 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > > > If they are using it as a compone

Re: favor

2005-02-08 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > My feeling is that if a site is extremely difficult to navigate > within - such as many news sites (ie cnn.com, etc.) that this > encourages deep linking. If the site owners don't want deep > linking then they can make their sites easier to navigate within. I tend to a

RE: favor

2005-02-08 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 3:20 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > TM> This

RE: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Robert Marella
On Sun, 2005-02-06 at 15:38 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Sorry if I offended anyone with my previous post re: freebsd-legal mail list. I just feel that all being discussed after the first 20 or so was 3 or 4 individuals expressing their opinions to each other. I _firmly_ believe that all hav

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 07 February 2005 11:17 am, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Kjeldergaard writes: > > EK> Perhaps they take a greater risk, or perhaps things are simpler > than EK> that. Perhaps, upon submitting something according to the > simple EK> instructions with intent for it to

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Joshua Tinnin writes: JT> Since this is a volunteer organization, and it seems to me that you JT> have the most interest in it, and if you refuse to let this go, then JT> I have a suggestion. Hire a lawyer and write up a legally sound JT> plan, and then submit it. Until then, you're demanding thin

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Joshua Tinnin writes: JT> If you want "real" support, that costs money, and it doesn't matter JT> if you're talking about BSD, Linux, Windows, Solaris, etc. Yes, and that's the paradox of open source. There's really no such thing as a free lunch. Even if you know your product inside and out and

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
David Gerard writes: DG> Actually, I most profitably apply it in my day job, which is administering DG> Solaris ;-) The purpose of vendors is to say to your boss that you have an DG> SLA; getting actual *support* out of anyone (with exceptions like NetApp) DG> is something best avoided IME. Somet

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Eric Kjeldergaard writes: EK> Perhaps they take a greater risk, or perhaps things are simpler than EK> that. Perhaps, upon submitting something according to the simple EK> instructions with intent for it to be published, it gets published EK> as the general populous would expect...Often things are

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:37 AM, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Eric Kjeldergaard writes: EK> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the EK> freebsd-questions Archives. EK> EK> Since we are discussing implicit contracts, I would think that the EK> announcement that the collection of prior

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Feb 7, 2005, at 11:30 AM, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote: EK> Let us make an analogue betwixt our Valerie and one who submits to the EK> local newspaper. There is a roughly equal level of consent given in EK> both cases ... Not so, on two points: (1) the newspaper is obviously available to anyone (

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 07 February 2005 08:13 am, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Kjeldergaard writes: > EK> I don't see that a mailing list would need such a thing. The > EK> submissions are given under the understanding that they shall be > EK> publicly available both to subscribers and n

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 07 February 2005 08:37 am, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eric Kjeldergaard writes: > > EK> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the > EK> freebsd-questions Archives. > EK> > EK> Since we are discussing implicit contracts, I would think that > the EK

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Monday 07 February 2005 08:16 am, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Gerard writes: > > DG> That would sorta suck. I know I write my questions and answers > with DG> a view to them being searchable on the web maybe months or > years DG> later, as I know how very grateful I am

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread David Gerard
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050208 03:53]: > David Gerard writes: > DG> I go to a site called google.com and I enter error messages > DG> verbatim, and often what comes back is a pile of mailing list posts. > DG> They are far superior to nothing. > No doubt, but they are far inferior

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
> It doesn't matter where they go. It only matters where they may be > expected to go by someone writing to the newspaper. right. And in this case, the person expects it to go to untold and unnamed numbers of people who desire to see the message. Which is, after all, exactly who's seeing it. >

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
David Gerard writes: DG> I go to a site called google.com and I enter error messages DG> verbatim, and often what comes back is a pile of mailing list posts. DG> They are far superior to nothing. No doubt, but they are far inferior to a formal, well-organized support system. The lack of support

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Eric Kjeldergaard writes: EK> Not always so, I know of many newspapers that go to subscribers only EK> (which local libraries are often among). This is especially true of EK> places without newstands. It doesn't matter where they go. It only matters where they may be expected to go by someone w

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Eric Kjeldergaard writes: EK> To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the EK> freebsd-questions Archives. EK> EK> Since we are discussing implicit contracts, I would think that the EK> announcement that the collection of prior postings is linked to and EK> mentioned/described to

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread David Gerard
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050208 03:16]: > David Gerard writes: > DG> That would sorta suck. I know I write my questions and answers with > DG> a view to them being searchable on the web maybe months or years > DG> later, as I know how very grateful I am to those whose archived > DG>

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
> EK> Let us make an analogue betwixt our Valerie and one who submits to the > EK> local newspaper. There is a roughly equal level of consent given in > EK> both cases ... > > Not so, on two points: (1) the newspaper is obviously available to > anyone (it's on the newsstands), and not only to a s

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
> Archiving messages without telling subscribers > about it and requiring them to agree with it only invites trouble. http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions This is the page on which you sign up. You'll notice it says this in the about: This is the mailing list for quest

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
David Gerard writes: DG> That would sorta suck. I know I write my questions and answers with DG> a view to them being searchable on the web maybe months or years DG> later, as I know how very grateful I am to those whose archived DG> words have helped me before. Having to search an archive of e-m

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Eric Kjeldergaard writes: EK> Let us make an analogue betwixt our Valerie and one who submits to the EK> local newspaper. There is a roughly equal level of consent given in EK> both cases ... Not so, on two points: (1) the newspaper is obviously available to anyone (it's on the newsstands), and

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread David Gerard
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050208 03:08]: > An alternative is to make the archive accessible only to current > members, and to purge posts from any member who leaves the list. > There's still a bit of risk in that but it eliminates most potential > objections. That would sorta suck.

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: TM> Clearly I think Anthony is saying in his posts to me that the TM> list managers should e-mail legal boilerplate to every subscriber TM> that they would then agree to, which would basically state that TM> the poster waives their copyrights if they post. Approximately,

Re: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
After having read this thread (yes, every line of it...) I'm really quite interested in it. Unfortunately, an analogy dropped off perhaps below Señor Atkielski's radar so I thought I would recreate it and hear his (and of course everyone else's) opinion(s) on it. Let us make an analogue betwixt o

RE: favor

2005-02-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joshua Tinnin > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 2:20 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Anthony Atkielski > Subject: Re: favor > > > How do you suggest this li

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: [everything snipped] You've confused so many different and indepdent topics in your posts--copyright infringement, access control, editorial control, invasions of privacy, defamation, and the First Amendment, to name a few--that I cannot respond to it coherently. Perhaps

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Joshua Tinnin writes: JT> What contract is implied here? When a person subscribes to a list in exchange for receiving mail from the list. JT> Is this what has happened here? Has the OP's ability to pay rent JT> been damaged by her archived post? I don't know. It's easy to conceive of plausible

RE: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 6:43 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > TM> Well unless things have changed > T

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Joshua Tinnin
On Sunday 06 February 2005 06:43 am, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The requirements of contract law are not waived simply because they are > inconvenient for one party. A contract, once concluded, remains binding > even if one party finds it troublesome to live up to its obligat

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Chris
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Ted Mittelstaedt writes: TM> Many content creators take the attitude that any republishing TM> isn't covered under Fair Use. Probably because that attitude is grossly congruent with the law and jurisprudence. *** Snip *** After following this thread, does this mean we're a

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: TM> Many content creators take the attitude that any republishing TM> isn't covered under Fair Use. Probably because that attitude is grossly congruent with the law and jurisprudence. TM> That is understandable because the Fair Use doctorine is TM> deliberately broad ...

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Sandy Rutherford
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:00:56 +0100, > Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: SR> Now #2, authorization: SR> SR> Finckenstein states: SR> SR> [26] No evidence was presented that the alleged infringers either SR> distributed or authorized the reproduction of sound recordings.

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Sandy Rutherford writes: SR> I'm not sure what you mean here. If you are going to call http SR> public, then wouldn't any other open protocol also be public? It's a network that people explicitly opt into. For example, if you put something on a P-to-P network, it's reasonable to assume that it

RE: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:08 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > Except that it's not covered under

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Sandy Rutherford
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 11:53:40 +0100, > Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sandy Rutherford writes: SR> Hold on a second. Shared P-to-P directories certainly are indexed and SR> Finckenstein knew this. > Where are they indexed? I though P-to-P was a proprietary > protoco

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Ceri Davies
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 6 Feb 2005, at 01:56, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Sandy Rutherford writes: SR> However, it is hard to see that as the prerequisite "positive act" SR> on the part of the web site owner. It is more a positive act on SR> Google's part. Google doesn't find

RE: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Sandy Rutherford
urday, February 05, 2005 4:35 PM >> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> Subject: Re: favor >> >> >> Am I the only one longing for a freebsd-legal mail list that I will not >> subscribe to? >> > Hmm - let's see now, FreeBSD's entire reaso

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Anthony Atkielski
ting TM> another person's copyrighted material for your own use, because TM> doing this makes their material part of your site. I agree, but it's still a gray area as far as jurisprudence is concerned. The trend seems to be in favor of your viewpoint. TM> No, in this I thi

Re: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Sandy Rutherford writes: SR> Hold on a second. Shared P-to-P directories certainly are indexed and SR> Finckenstein knew this. Where are they indexed? I though P-to-P was a proprietary protocol--which implies that public services like Google can't index it. An index internal to the P-to-P syste

RE: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Marella > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 4:35 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > Am I the only one longing for a freebsd-lega

RE: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 5:56 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > Sandy Rutherford writes: > > SR>

RE: favor

2005-02-06 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Sandy > Rutherford > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:55 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > >>>>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:4

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Sandy Rutherford
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 02:56:03 +0100, > Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Sandy Rutherford writes: SR> This is not so clear. In a March 2004 decision regarding P-to-P music SR> sharing, Justice von Finckenstein of the Federal Court of Canada ruled SR> that: SR> SR> The

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Robert Marella writes: RM> Am I the only one longing for a freebsd-legal mail list that I will not RM> subscribe to? Unfortunately, ignoring legal issues won't necessarily exempt you from being affected by them, especially if you operate any kind of public server (and the definition of that can b

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Sandy Rutherford writes: SR> This is not so clear. In a March 2004 decision regarding P-to-P music SR> sharing, Justice von Finckenstein of the Federal Court of Canada ruled SR> that: SR> SR>The mere fact of placing a copy on a shared directory in a computer SR>where that copy can be acc

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Robert Marella
On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 05:52 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Mike Hauber writes: > The cat is being pushed back into the bag rather rapidly. The legal > profession was slow to apply the law to the Internet, but it is learning > fast. To paraphrase the "Bard" "The first thing we do, let's kill

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Sandy Rutherford
> On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 11:43:32 +0100, > Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: MH> But that's different in that it was never released to a public forum MH> in the first place (explicitly or otherwise). > I'm not sure what you mean by "public forum." A server accessible from > th

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Robert Marella
On Fri, 2005-02-04 at 23:05 +0100, Erik Norgaard wrote: > When I search for my name, I'm in competition with a wrestler - really > anoying, Deja Vu all over again. Who is Gorilla Monsoon and why is google filled up with him when I search my name. ;)

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Feb 5, 2005, at 3:01 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Norgaard Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: favor Mike Hauber wrote: Fact is

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Anthony Atkielski
e continually trying TM> to get laws into place that consider e-publishing as some sort of TM> "special" publishing exempt from the First Amendment. Is that what TM> YOU want? Copyright protection has nothing to do with the First Amendment. TM> Until case law has defined e-pu

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mike Hauber writes: MH> If I were to send you an email and a header (or signature) stated MH> that you were not privy to the contents of the email, then you MH> could be in serious trouble. No, because you explicitly sent me the e-mail. If the confidential contents were not your own, however, y

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Feb 5 at 08:35, Erik Norgaard wondered out loud: > Mike Hauber wrote: >> Fact is, the cats out of the bag, and I have yet to meet a cat that likes >> bags. :) > > I went on radio some years ago, now I realize that the radiowaves are about > to hit alien civilizations. In order not to embaras

Re: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Feb 4 at 23:43, Mike Hauber opined: > On Friday 04 February 2005 10:39 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> Ted Mittelstaedt writes: >> >> TM> If you post on a public forum, by implication you are giving that >> TM> forum permission to publish your copyrighted material. >> >> >> The only way to get

RE: favor

2005-02-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Erik Norgaard > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > Mike Hauber wrote: > &

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Erik Norgaard
Mike Hauber wrote: Fact is, the cats out of the bag, and I have yet to meet a cat that likes bags. :) I went on radio some years ago, now I realize that the radiowaves are about to hit alien civilizations. In order not to embaras my self or the entire human race, I'd like to have those radio w

RE: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Hauber > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:31 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > On Friday 04 February 2005 11:52 pm, Anthony Atkielski wr

RE: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anthony > Atkielski > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:40 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: favor > > > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > TM> If you

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread markzero
> Actually, I have a question. I'm in the middle of upgrading my > dataserver, and I'm building ports on ttyv2,3&5. I have xdm > running on ttyv8. I just finished installing wdm (on ttyv4) and > I edited /etc/ttys to run wdm on ttyv8 instead of xdm. Is there > a way to reset ttyv8 so that i

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread markzero
> In that case, this email is absolutely copyrighted by me (along > with ... my recipie for coffee) Hah! Bad move kiddo! *slurp* *twitch* I'll make a fortune! Hahaha... Mark -- PGP: http://www.darklogik.org/pub/pgp/pgp.txt B776 43DC 8A5D EAF9 2126 9A67 A7DA 390F DEFF 9DD1 pgpnnQq0NmTBB.pg

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Mike Hauber
On Friday 04 February 2005 11:52 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Mike Hauber writes: > > MH> Not wanting to jump into this, because I think the whole of > the MH> argument is ridiculous... But, in a nutshell... > Aren't you MH> trying to make the same argument that SCO is > trying to make? > > I'm

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Mike Hauber writes: MH> Not wanting to jump into this, because I think the whole of the MH> argument is ridiculous... But, in a nutshell... Aren't you MH> trying to make the same argument that SCO is trying to make? I'm not familiar with SCO's argument. The principles of copyright have existed

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Mike Hauber
On Friday 04 February 2005 10:39 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Ted Mittelstaedt writes: > > TM> If you post on a public forum, by implication you are > giving that TM> forum permission to publish your copyrighted > material. > > No, you're not. If you post to a public forum, you're giving > impli

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Anthony Atkielski
Ted Mittelstaedt writes: TM> If you post on a public forum, by implication you are giving that TM> forum permission to publish your copyrighted material. No, you're not. If you post to a public forum, you're giving implicit permission for your posts to be visible _within that forum_. You are no

RE: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chris Hodgins > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 2:17 PM > To: Erik Norgaard > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: favor > > > No. You could howev

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Chris Hodgins
Chuck Swiger wrote: Chris Hodgins wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: [ ... ] Google does offer a way to remove posts that you have made from its index: http://www.google.co.uk/googlegroups/help.html#9 Notice the part which says: "Messages posted by other people By its very nature, Usenet consists

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
Chris Hodgins wrote: Chuck Swiger wrote: [ ... ] Google does offer a way to remove posts that you have made from its index: http://www.google.co.uk/googlegroups/help.html#9 Notice the part which says: "Messages posted by other people By its very nature, Usenet consists of information posted b

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Erik Norgaard
Chris Hodgins wrote: Google only requests that you use the same email address to have it removed. I think this is reasonable. You can actually get it removed without using the email address but I think that is a little harder. or forge the email? If you feel the first matches refer to irrelevan

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Erik Norgaard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Google can do it, I'm sure FreeBSD can figure out how to do it. > Google calls it "nuking a post". Any nukers with know-how out there? No, google keeps a mirror of the list, there are numerous independent mirrors that are beyond control of FreeBSD.org, and you'll have

Re: Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Gert Cuykens
PROTECTED]> > > Date: 2005/02/04 Fri PM 04:58:00 EST > > To: Chuck Swiger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: favor > > > > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > &

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Chris Hodgins
Erik Norgaard wrote: Chris Hodgins wrote: IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? Could it be a legal requirement that you can prove that you are actually the origina

Re: Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread vandrewlevich
gt; > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: favor > > Chuck Swiger wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because > >> of a > >> thread from 2003. Could you kindly

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Erik Norgaard
Chris Hodgins wrote: IANAL but I think it would be interesting to know what the legal implications are here. Could it be a legal requirement that you can request that your data is removed? Could it be a legal requirement that you can prove that you are actually the original poster and as the au

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Chris Hodgins
Chuck Swiger wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Regrettably, there is no reliable or convenient way

Re: favor

2005-02-04 Thread Chuck Swiger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Regrettably, there is no reliable or convenient way to remove old postings

favor

2005-02-04 Thread vandrewlevich
Hi FreeBSD. When googling my name, your list comes up 13 times because of a thread from 2003. Could you kindly remove and delete this thread from your archives? I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Valerie Andrewlevich ___ freebsd-questions@freebs

Re: A big favor..

2003-08-17 Thread Rod Person
On Sat, 16 Aug 2003 22:31:36 + "unknown name" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to try to tell you that i dream of having an email with > FreeBSD.org =$, i know im it sounds crazy, > but i would like so much to have an email with FreeBSD.org, just a > foward, not mailbox,

Re: A big favor..

2003-08-16 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Aug 16, 2003 at 10:31:36PM +, unknown name wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to try to tell you that i dream of having an email with > FreeBSD.org =$, i know im it sounds crazy, > but i would like so much to have an email with FreeBSD.org, just a foward, > not mailbox, just a simple f

A big favor..

2003-08-16 Thread unknown name
Hello, I would like to try to tell you that i dream of having an email with FreeBSD.org =$, i know im it sounds crazy, but i would like so much to have an email with FreeBSD.org, just a foward, not mailbox, just a simple forward... hehehe i just tried to say it as best as i can...bye :o) Th

Por favor, reative sua conta no Yahoo! Grupos

2002-09-28 Thread Yahoo!Grupos
eremos que o problema está resolvido até que você nos diga. Para reativar sua conta no Yahoo! Grupos: - Por favor, clique RESPONDER e nos envie esta resposta de volta sem alterar nada. OU - Enquanto estiver conectado à Internet, clique no link abaixo (ou copie e cole o mesmo em seu navegador

Re: favor for a brazilian freebsd user

2002-09-27 Thread Benjamin Krueger
* Otvio Rox! ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [020927 05:46]: > hi, im brazilian and i work as a free lancer with networks using freebsd, > and i work at an internet provider in fortaleza city called 'baydenet' > (www.baydenet.com.br). > > i am really interested in having an e-mail adress @freebsd.org . Her

favor for a brazilian freebsd user

2002-09-27 Thread Otvio Rox!
hi, im brazilian and i work as a free lancer with networks using freebsd, and i work at an internet provider in fortaleza city called 'baydenet' (www.baydenet.com.br). i am really interested in having an e-mail adress @freebsd.org . Here in brazil i'm part of mailing lists supported by the fre

Por favor, reative sua conta no Yahoo! Grupos

2002-09-23 Thread Yahoo!Grupos
eremos que o problema está resolvido até que você nos diga. Para reativar sua conta no Yahoo! Grupos: - Por favor, clique RESPONDER e nos envie esta resposta de volta sem alterar nada. OU - Enquanto estiver conectado à Internet, clique no link abaixo (ou copie e cole o mesmo em seu navegador