Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-07 Thread Robert Bonomi

Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote:
 2012-05-06 20:23, Robert Bonomi skrev:

  Including *every* loadable module, whether or not you actually use it.

 That's not really true, at least not for me, and I have not made any
 changes to the build environment. The loadable module that I actually
 use is bktr.ko, that one among others does not get built.

I'd guess that bktr.ko is a 'third-party' module, found in a port, and not
part of the base system.

I found that every loadable kernel module in the base system is, or at least
was, rebuilt.  I haven't used make buildkernel in several years -- I use
a 'monolithic' kernel, with everything compiled in, and loadable modules
disabled.  That way I always know _exactly_ what cabilities exist, and
what security holes I _don't_ have to worry about.

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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-07 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 7 May 2012 15:01:31 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote:
 
 Bernt Hansson b...@bananmonarki.se wrote:
  2012-05-06 20:23, Robert Bonomi skrev:
 
   Including *every* loadable module, whether or not you actually use it.
 
  That's not really true, at least not for me, and I have not made any
  changes to the build environment. The loadable module that I actually
  use is bktr.ko, that one among others does not get built.
 
 I'd guess that bktr.ko is a 'third-party' module, found in a port, and not
 part of the base system.

No, it's part of the base system. I've been using bktr _in_ kernel
for many years (FreeBSD 5 and 7), but since 8.0, it does not build
anymore. However, the module _does_ correctly build.

The documentation is in man 4 bktr.

A typical use (with the PAL option, because I don't have
Never The Same Color here), did work in the past like this:

device  bktr
options BROOKTREE_SYSTEM_DEFAULT=BROOKTREE_PAL
options BKTR_USE_PLL
options BKTR_GPIO_ACCESS
options BKTR_USE_FREEBSD_SMBUS

Today, I need to use /boot/loader.conf with those entry

bktr_load=YES

Works for my Haupauge WinTV PCI video + tuner card, even
the options (PAL) seem to magically work! :-)



 I found that every loadable kernel module in the base system is, or at least
 was, rebuilt. 

That's correct so far. Additionally, all components specified
by the kernel configuration file will be rebuilt, which in case
of _no_ alteration is the content of GENERIC. As I said, there
may be parts that one can safely drop (e. g. WLAN, floppy, ISDN
or sound for a server).





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kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Carmel
In the Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64, if I do
not have a floppy drive, is it safe to comment out this entry?

# Floppy drives
device  fdc

Are there any other entries that I could eliminate if I do not have a
floppy drive?

Also, according the the webcamd documentation, I need to have this in
the loader.conf file.

webcamd requires the cuse4bsd(3) kernel module. To load the driver as a
module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5):

cuse4bsd_load=YES

Is there a way that I can simply compile it into the kernel? Would a:

device  cuse4bsd# Required by webcamd

entry in the kernel file work? I cannot find any documentation on that.

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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Robert Bonomi

Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote;

 In the Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64, if I do
 not have a floppy drive, is it safe to comment out this entry?

 # Floppy drives
 device  fdc

Definitely, yes.

 Are there any other entries that I could eliminate if I do not have a
 floppy drive?

   device atapifd

obviouly.  :)

 Also, according the the webcamd documentation, I need to have this in
 the loader.conf file.

 webcamd requires the cuse4bsd(3) kernel module. To load the driver as a
 module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5):

 cuse4bsd_load=YES

 Is there a way that I can simply compile it into the kernel? Would a:

 device   cuse4bsd# Required by webcamd

 entry in the kernel file work? I cannot find any documentation on that.

The simplest approach for this is 'try it and find out'.  

If you use the traditional kernel-huild 'Configure/make depend/make'
sequence, to rebuild the kernel -only-,  its a matter of one minute or
so on a _slow_ (486-class) machine.

you'll either get a Configure error, a linker error, or it 'just works'.


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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Carmel
On Sun, 6 May 2012 08:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
Robert Bonomi articulated:

Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote;

 In the Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64, if I do
 not have a floppy drive, is it safe to comment out this entry?

 # Floppy drives
 device  fdc

Definitely, yes.

 Are there any other entries that I could eliminate if I do not have a
 floppy drive?

   device atapifd

obviouly.  :)

Thanks, I had not noticed that one.

 Also, according the the webcamd documentation, I need to have this
 in the loader.conf file.

 webcamd requires the cuse4bsd(3) kernel module. To load the driver
 as a module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5):

 cuse4bsd_load=YES

 Is there a way that I can simply compile it into the kernel? Would a:

 device   cuse4bsd# Required by webcamd

 entry in the kernel file work? I cannot find any documentation on
 that.

The simplest approach for this is 'try it and find out'.  

If you use the traditional kernel-huild 'Configure/make depend/make'
sequence, to rebuild the kernel -only-,  its a matter of one minute or
so on a _slow_ (486-class) machine.

you'll either get a Configure error, a linker error, or it 'just
works'.

OK, now you lost me. I use the following basic sequence:

make buildworld
make buildkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
make installkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
make installworld

I am sorry, but I am not fully comprehending what commands you want me
to enter.

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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Mario Lobo
On Sunday 06 May 2012 10:34:12 Carmel wrote:
 On Sun, 6 May 2012 08:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
 
 Robert Bonomi articulated:
 Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com wrote;
 
  In the Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/amd64, if I do
  not have a floppy drive, is it safe to comment out this entry?
  
  # Floppy drives
  device  fdc
 
 Definitely, yes.
 
  Are there any other entries that I could eliminate if I do not have a
  floppy drive?
  
device atapifd
 
 obviouly.  :)
 
 Thanks, I had not noticed that one.
 
  Also, according the the webcamd documentation, I need to have this
  in the loader.conf file.
  
  webcamd requires the cuse4bsd(3) kernel module. To load the driver
  
  as a module at boot time, place the following line in loader.conf(5):
  cuse4bsd_load=YES
  
  Is there a way that I can simply compile it into the kernel? Would a:
  
  device   cuse4bsd# Required by webcamd
  
  entry in the kernel file work? I cannot find any documentation on
  that.
 
 The simplest approach for this is 'try it and find out'.
 
 If you use the traditional kernel-huild 'Configure/make depend/make'
 sequence, to rebuild the kernel -only-,  its a matter of one minute or
 so on a _slow_ (486-class) machine.
 
 you'll either get a Configure error, a linker error, or it 'just
 works'.
 
 OK, now you lost me. I use the following basic sequence:
 
 make buildworld
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installworld
 
 I am sorry, but I am not fully comprehending what commands you want me
 to enter.

Carmel;

You don't need to build the whole world if you only need a kernel rebuild.

just edit your kernel file and issue:

cd /usr/src
make kernel KERNCONF=CARMEL

the 2nd line builds AND installs the new kernel.

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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 06/05/2012 14:34, Carmel wrote:

 Is there a way that I can simply compile it into the kernel? Would a:

 device   cuse4bsd# Required by webcamd

 entry in the kernel file work? I cannot find any documentation on
 that.

cuse4bsd is a third party module.  This means that the sources aren't
available as part of the base system, so making work as compiled-in code
in the kernel will require you to create patches for your kernel source
tree.  Not impossible, but not trivial either.  I don't know if hps@ has
any plans to import it into the base system (I doubt it though), but it
would only appear a few releases down the line even if he did.

 OK, now you lost me. I use the following basic sequence:
 
 make buildworld
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installworld
 
 I am sorry, but I am not fully comprehending what commands you want me
 to enter.

If you don't update the system sources, then you can try a new kernel
config without rebuilding world all the time.  Like so:

  make buildkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
  make installkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
  shutdown -r now

Just (re)building the kernel takes a lot less time than rebuilding the
entire base system.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Carmel
On Sun, 06 May 2012 14:58:39 +0100
Matthew Seaman articulated:

cuse4bsd is a third party module.  This means that the sources aren't
available as part of the base system, so making work as compiled-in
code in the kernel will require you to create patches for your kernel
source tree.  Not impossible, but not trivial either.  I don't know if
hps@ has any plans to import it into the base system (I doubt it
though), but it would only appear a few releases down the line even if
he did.

Thanks Matthew, that answered my question. It would seem that importing
that module in the base system would be a wise idea; however, that
decision is not mine to make.

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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Robert Bonomi
 From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun May  6 08:36:52 2012
 Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 09:34:12 -0400
 From: Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com
 To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: kernel configuration file

 On Sun, 6 May 2012 08:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
 Robert Bonomi articulated:
 
 If you use the traditional kernel-huild 'Configure/make depend/make'
 sequence, to rebuild the kernel -only-,  its a matter of one minute or
 so on a _slow_ (486-class) machine.
 
 you'll either get a Configure error, a linker error, or it 'just
 works'.

 OK, now you lost me. I use the following basic sequence:

 make buildworld
 make buildkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
 make installworld

 I am sorry, but I am not fully comprehending what commands you want me
 to enter.

That's the 'modern' way. 

Note: make buildkernel forcibly rebuilds everything, *EVERY* time.
Including *every* loadable module, whether or not you actually use it.
Which can be *really* painful on slow hardware  (like 20+ *hours*, on a 
486-class machine).

The 'traditional' custom kernel-construction sequence is:
cd /sys/{architecture}/conf
$EDIT {kernelname}C
config {kernelname}
cd ../../compile/{kernelname}
make depend
make

Then, 'make install', to install it as the defalt kernel to boot from,
or copy it to /boot/kernel/{foo} if you just want to test it by manually
selecting it at boot time..

For 'minor' kernel-only changes -- _I_ use custom kernels with =everything=
I need 'compiled in', *no* loadable modules, I'm in no mood to wait for all
the never used modules to be re-built --  The 'traditional' method is 
_far_ faster.  On a 700 mhz PIII, it is circa 90 seconds when I make a
simple configuration change -- e.g., add a 'device', change an 'option',
change a 'value'.  *MOST* of which is the 'make depend' stage. the actual 
'make' is under 10 seconds on _that_ hardware.

'make buildkernel' always works for every configuration.  It does it by 
being extremely pessimistic about what needs to be re-built.  i.e., it
=always= assumes everything is out-of-date.  This subverts one of the major
reasons 'make' exists -- to rebuild only the -minimal- set of things that
are affected by a given set of changes.  It is 'foolproof', but the 
skilled kernel builder pays an *incredible* performance penalty for
using something that attemptss to outwit the classical 'sufficiently
determined fool'.

I don't object (well, 'much', that is, see below) to 'make buildkernel', 
or even to it being promoted in the Handbook as the 'preferred' means of 
kernel building.  It _really_ annoys that it is listed therein as the 
-only- way.  The 'traditional' methodology is fast becoming 'lost art', 
along with the related knowledge of _how_ the process works,

'make buildkernel' is a black box, reminiscent of MS Windows 'magic'.
When it works, all is fine.  when it breaks, you've got essentially no
information to work with about 'what went wrong'.

With the 'traditional' method, at least all the commands have manpages,
that tell you -what- each command does, in a fair amount of detail.

/rant  



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Re: kernel configuration file

2012-05-06 Thread Polytropon
On Sun, 6 May 2012 13:23:08 -0500 (CDT), Robert Bonomi wrote:
  From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Sun May  6 08:36:52 2012
  Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 09:34:12 -0400
  From: Carmel carmel...@hotmail.com
  To: FreeBSD freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
  Subject: Re: kernel configuration file
 
  On Sun, 6 May 2012 08:08:31 -0500 (CDT)
  Robert Bonomi articulated:
  
  If you use the traditional kernel-huild 'Configure/make depend/make'
  sequence, to rebuild the kernel -only-,  its a matter of one minute or
  so on a _slow_ (486-class) machine.
  
  you'll either get a Configure error, a linker error, or it 'just
  works'.
 
  OK, now you lost me. I use the following basic sequence:
 
  make buildworld
  make buildkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
  make installkernel KERNCONF=CARMEL
  make installworld
 
  I am sorry, but I am not fully comprehending what commands you want me
  to enter.
 
 That's the 'modern' way. 

The /usr/src/Makefile contains a comment header which
explains the purpose of the make targets the current
way supports. One should read it before starting, because
it's quite informative on _that_ way of doing things
(e. g. make kernel = make buildkernel installkernel).



 Note: make buildkernel forcibly rebuilds everything, *EVERY* time.
 Including *every* loadable module, whether or not you actually use it.
 Which can be *really* painful on slow hardware  (like 20+ *hours*, on a 
 486-class machine).

Maybe it's worth mentioning /etc/src.conf and /etc/make.conf
and the man src.conf manpage. That is a comfortable means
to avoid building (and therefore also installing) modules one
does not need. The approach to configure all and _only_ the
stuff I need in a custom kernel can be followed this way,
and it will even work with the current make target way.
Have no WLAN? So why bother building it? No ISDN? Omit it!
For minor kernel changes (e. g. if you want to try some
compile-time settings), this approach is really handy as
it minimizes the time required.

This consideration should _boost_ build+install times on
current plentycore multiprocessors with tons of RAM! :-)





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Missing kernel configuration file(s)

2012-04-10 Thread Коньков Евгений
I have upgrade src to Revision: 234068

# cd /usr/src
# make -j 8 buildkernel KERNCONF=KES_KERN_v10
ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KES_KERN_v10).
*** Error code 1
1 error
*** Error code 2
1 error
# cd /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf
# ls
.cvsignore  GENERIC.hints   Makefile
DEFAULTSKESOPTS LINTNOTES
GENERIC KES_KERN_v10LINT-VIMAGE XENHVM

I always do this steps, but now I get errors.
I can not find what was changed.
How I must compile my kernel now?

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Re: Missing kernel configuration file(s)

2012-04-10 Thread Коньков Евгений

КЕ I have upgrade src to Revision: 234068

КЕ # cd /usr/src
КЕ # make -j 8 buildkernel KERNCONF=KES_KERN_v10
КЕ ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KES_KERN_v10).
КЕ *** Error code 1
КЕ 1 error
КЕ *** Error code 2
КЕ 1 error
КЕ # cd /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf
КЕ # ls
КЕ .cvsignore  GENERIC.hints   Makefile
КЕ DEFAULTSKESOPTS LINTNOTES
КЕ GENERIC KES_KERN_v10LINT-VIMAGE XENHVM

КЕ I always do this steps, but now I get errors.
КЕ I can not find what was changed.
КЕ How I must compile my kernel now?

Foget, that I install freebsd from CD with i386
so I need
make -j 8 buildkernel KERNCONF=KES_KERN_v10 TARGET=amd64

Thank you


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Building amd64 kernel problems (missing kernel configuration files)

2010-06-09 Thread Jerry Bell
 Hello,

I am have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 and need to install an amd64
kernel.

I have copied /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC to
/usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/JERRY

Then, I run make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY in /usr/src and get the
following error:
ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (JERRY).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.


It seems to want JERRY to be in i386/conf.  If I copy JERRY to i386/conf and
run make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY, I get the following error:
--
 Kernel build for JERRY started on Wed Jun  9 20:50:30 EDT 2010
--
=== JERRY
mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys

--
 stage 1: configuring the kernel
--
cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;
PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
config  -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERRY  /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY: unknown option HAMMER
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src.


I know I'm missing something simple, but can't quite figure out what it is.

Thanks,

Jerry
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Re: Building amd64 kernel problems (missing kernel configuration files)

2010-06-09 Thread Adam Vande More
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Jerry Bell jerry.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 and need to install an amd64
 kernel.

 I have copied /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC to
 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/JERRY

 Then, I run make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY in /usr/src and get the
 following error:
 ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (JERRY).
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.


 It seems to want JERRY to be in i386/conf.  If I copy JERRY to i386/conf
 and
 run make buildkernel KERNCONF=JERRY, I get the following error:
 --
  Kernel build for JERRY started on Wed Jun  9 20:50:30 EDT 2010
 --
 === JERRY
 mkdir -p /usr/obj/usr/src/sys

 --
  stage 1: configuring the kernel
 --
 cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf;

 PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
 config  -d /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/JERRY  /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY
 /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/JERRY: unknown option HAMMER
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.
 *** Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/src.


 I know I'm missing something simple, but can't quite figure out what it is.




I think you have to set TARGET_ARCH=amd64

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Re: Building amd64 kernel problems (missing kernel configuration files)

2010-06-09 Thread b. f.
 I am have a fresh install of FreeBSD 8.0 i386 and need to install an amd64
 kernel.

 I have copied /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/GENERIC to
 /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/JERRY

Support for cross-building is limited in the FreeBSD base system.
/usr/src/Makefile states:

# If TARGET=machine (e.g. ia64, sparc64, ...) is specified you can
# cross build world for other machine types using the buildworld target,
# and once the world is built you can cross build a kernel using the
# buildkernel target.


but there are unwritten limitations, and this requires some care.
See, for example, developers running into problems even with i386 --
amd64:

http://bsdimp.blogspot.com/2006/09/cross-building-freebsd.html

The fact that you are asking how to do this on the freebsd-questions
list probably means that you should _not_ be cross-building.

_Don't_ try to run an amd64 kernel with i386 world, or vice versa.
With some patches and tweaking you may get a few things to work, but
you're asking for trouble.

It would be better to get an amd64 installation disk, back up your
data, and do a re-installation from scratch, or at least a binary
upgrade of the existing base system, and then build a custom kernel
and world, if that's what you want to do.

b.
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Info on DOS mitigation, kernel configuration for DOS mitigation

2010-03-15 Thread Bogdan Webb
Hello everyone!

First of all i would like to apologize to anyone who finds my appeal a lazy
man's choice, actually it's indeed lazy but it's the best way to get an
answer from a valid source. My problem is a potential DOS/DDOS... i know a
forever talked about issue... i've already searched the freebsd's mailing
lists and found some mitigation techniques, to bad that google ain't that
familiar with FreeBSD, and searchin' for guides is a pain... I recall
finding a mitigation technique that involved bandwidth shaping and other ...
I'm using a FreeBSD 7.2-p7 with ipfw and upon testing the rules in those
guides it alerted me that bandwidth modules weren't included in the bsd's
kernel... Anyway could anyone provide me with a good BSD walk trough for DOS
mitigation and if needed kernel modules and kernel module integration, mabe
other firewall (but with extended howto..) ... (basically anything regarded
to floods)

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Info on DOS mitigation, kernel configuration for DOS mitigation

2010-03-15 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Bogdan Webb bog...@pgn.ro wrote:

 i've already searched the freebsd's mailing
 lists and found some mitigation techniques, to bad that google ain't that
 familiar with FreeBSD, and searchin' for guides is a pain...


http://www.google.com/bsd

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Re: Info on DOS mitigation, kernel configuration for DOS mitigation

2010-03-15 Thread Ivan Voras

Bogdan Webb wrote:

Hello everyone!

First of all i would like to apologize to anyone who finds my appeal a lazy
man's choice, actually it's indeed lazy but it's the best way to get an
answer from a valid source. My problem is a potential DOS/DDOS... i know a
forever talked about issue... i've already searched the freebsd's mailing
lists and found some mitigation techniques, to bad that google ain't that
familiar with FreeBSD, and searchin' for guides is a pain... I recall
finding a mitigation technique that involved bandwidth shaping and other ...
I'm using a FreeBSD 7.2-p7 with ipfw and upon testing the rules in those
guides it alerted me that bandwidth modules weren't included in the bsd's
kernel... Anyway could anyone provide me with a good BSD walk trough for DOS


kldload dummynet, see loader.conf(5)


mitigation and if needed kernel modules and kernel module integration, mabe
other firewall (but with extended howto..) ... (basically anything regarded
to floods)


As you probably guess, a) this is a complex problem because one man's 
DOS is another's regular traffic - it's complex even to detect something 
like that, and b) most of the general solutions are not 
platform-specific but can apply to any operating system, so you can 
learn it from many sources.


First, you need to define what your outgoing network connection is (e.g. 
10 mbit/s) and then see what kinds of tradeoffs you are prepared to 
make to protect yourself.


The general advice is:
- read ipfw(5), especially sections on dummynet and the limit rule
- study software like http://codee.pl/cband.html

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Re : freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration

2009-12-06 Thread S4mmael
Hi again!

During FreeBSD 7.1 installation, I made some changes to my BSD
partitions. I didn't touch ad0s1h (/home), so there is still my data.
Installation went good, but I see disk boot failure... error message
when trying to boot OS. Using Fixit liveCD I see:
#fdisk /dev/ad0
*** Working on device /dev/ad0 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=119705 heads=16 sectors/track=255 (4080 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=119705 heads=16 sectors/track=255 (4080 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
   start 63, size 209729457 (102406 Meg), flag 80 (active)
       beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
       end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:
sysid 7 (0x07),(OS/2 HPFS, NTFS, QNX-2 (16 bit) or Advanced UNIX)
   start 209729520, size 10508400 (5131 Meg), flag 0
       beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
       end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63
The data for partition 3 is:
sysid 15 (0x0f),(Extended DOS (LBA))
   start 220237920, size 268153200 (130934 Meg), flag 0
       beg: cyl 1023/ head 255/ sector 63;
       end: cyl 1023/ head 15/ sector 63
The data for partition 4 is:
UNUSED

#bsdlabel /dev/ad0s1
# /dev/ad0s1:
8 partitions:
#        size   offset    fstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
 a:  1048576       63    4.2BSD     1024  8192 46248
 b:  2097152  1048639      swap
 c: 209729457       63    unused        0     0         # raw part,
don't edit
 d:  1048576  3145791    4.2BSD     1024  8192 46248
 e: 20230144  4194367    4.2BSD     1024  8192 46248
 f:  2097152 24424511    4.2BSD      512  4096 22424
 g:  4194304 26521663    4.2BSD     8192 65536     8
 h: 179013553 30715967    4.2BSD        0     0     0
partition c: partition extends past end of unit
bsdlabel: partition c doesn't start at 0!
bsdlabel: An incorrect partition c may cause problems for standard
system utilities
partition h: partition extends past end of unit

So, slice ad0s1 is active, partitions can be mounted and viewed, all seems OK.
boot0cfg -B /dev/ad0 and fdisk -B /dev/ad0 doesn't solve the problem.

What did I mess? What does the last strings of bsdlabel output mean?
How do I manage this?



Thank's in advance for any advice.

2009/11/27 S4mmael s4mm...@gmail.com:
 Thank you.

 2009/11/26 Alexandre L. axel...@ymail.com:
 Hi,

 I paste this link where Colin Percival explain who to use the tool 
 freebsd-update with custom kernel. But I think that same thing as been 
 written in the handbook.
 http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=30920postcount=9

 --- En date de : Jeu 26.11.09, S4mmael s4mm...@gmail.com a écrit :

 De: S4mmael s4mm...@gmail.com
 Objet: freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration
 À: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Jeudi 26 Novembre 2009, 13h32
 Hi all!

 I've got a problem while upgrading FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3
 - FreeBSD
 8.0-RELESE with freebsd-update(8).

 First of all I made a copy of the most configuration files.
 Then I made:
 # freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade
 All went good, except the message, that because of MYKERNEL
 kernel
 configuration I should upgrade my kernel before
 freebsd-upgrade
 install. Then I was looking for the way of kernel upgrade,
 but found
 nothing. How could I build 8.0 kernel in FreeBSD 7.2? Of
 course, there
 were 7.2 sources in /usr/src and I didn't find any sources
 in
 /var/db/freebsd-update/. It's the first my question.

 Thus I decided to upgrade all except the kernel and then
 rebuild the
 kernel (that worked good while upgrading 7.1 - 7.2). I
 made as
 mentioned in hanbook:
 # freebsd-upgrade install
 # shutdown -r now
 # freebsd-upgrade install
 There were many errors bad sistem call on th last
 command. After all
 I discovered that much files from / were lost (I didn't
 find any grep,
 bzcat and so on). On boot kernel can't find fsck_ufs, so
 automatic
 mounting fails. If mounted by hand, there is no way to
 login because
 of some init error. Single user mode works. freebsd-update
 roolback
 can't find any backup. Shell scripts can't find test (it
 really
 doesn't exists in /bin/[ ) and fails.

 How can I restore the system? I've FreeBSD 7.1 CD.

 Thank's in advance for your help.
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freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration

2009-11-26 Thread S4mmael
Hi all!

I've got a problem while upgrading FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 - FreeBSD
8.0-RELESE with freebsd-update(8).

First of all I made a copy of the most configuration files. Then I made:
# freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade
All went good, except the message, that because of MYKERNEL kernel
configuration I should upgrade my kernel before freebsd-upgrade
install. Then I was looking for the way of kernel upgrade, but found
nothing. How could I build 8.0 kernel in FreeBSD 7.2? Of course, there
were 7.2 sources in /usr/src and I didn't find any sources in
/var/db/freebsd-update/. It's the first my question.

Thus I decided to upgrade all except the kernel and then rebuild the
kernel (that worked good while upgrading 7.1 - 7.2). I made as
mentioned in hanbook:
# freebsd-upgrade install
# shutdown -r now
# freebsd-upgrade install
There were many errors bad sistem call on th last command. After all
I discovered that much files from / were lost (I didn't find any grep,
bzcat and so on). On boot kernel can't find fsck_ufs, so automatic
mounting fails. If mounted by hand, there is no way to login because
of some init error. Single user mode works. freebsd-update roolback
can't find any backup. Shell scripts can't find test (it really
doesn't exists in /bin/[ ) and fails.

How can I restore the system? I've FreeBSD 7.1 CD.

Thank's in advance for your help.
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Re: freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration

2009-11-26 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Thursday 26 November 2009 14:32:01 S4mmael wrote:
 Hi all!
 
 I've got a problem while upgrading FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3 - FreeBSD
 8.0-RELESE with freebsd-update(8).
 
 First of all I made a copy of the most configuration files. Then I made:
 # freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade
 All went good, except the message, that because of MYKERNEL kernel
 configuration I should upgrade my kernel before freebsd-upgrade
 install. 

That message should probably be more strongly worded. It is absolutely 
*imperative* that the custom kernel is upgraded before continuing with 
freebsd-upgrade install.

For more information about how to upgrade to freebsd 8 see
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-
freebsdupdate.html

 Then I was looking for the way of kernel upgrade, but found
 nothing. How could I build 8.0 kernel in FreeBSD 7.2? Of course, there
 were 7.2 sources in /usr/src and I didn't find any sources in
 /var/db/freebsd-update/. It's the first my question.

Use csup(1) to upgrade the sources to RELENG_8_0.

 
 Thus I decided to upgrade all except the kernel and then rebuild the
 kernel (that worked good while upgrading 7.1 - 7.2). 

As you found out, you should never do that. Always make sure the kernel is the 
same or newer as world (userland) especially when upgrading to a new major 
version.

 I made as
 mentioned in hanbook:
 # freebsd-upgrade install
 # shutdown -r now
 # freebsd-upgrade install

At this point most userland utilities (because they all use libc.so) depend on 
features only available in the 8.0 kernel, while the installed kernel is still 
at 7.1. Essentially the system is bricked.

 There were many errors bad sistem call on th last command. After all
 I discovered that much files from / were lost (I didn't find any grep,
 bzcat and so on). On boot kernel can't find fsck_ufs, so automatic
 mounting fails. If mounted by hand, there is no way to login because
 of some init error. Single user mode works. freebsd-update roolback
 can't find any backup. Shell scripts can't find test (it really
 doesn't exists in /bin/[ ) and fails.
 
 How can I restore the system? I've FreeBSD 7.1 CD.

You can try reinstalling 7.1 taking care not to repartition the HDD. If all 
went well the system runs a GENERIC kernel, which is upgradeable by freebsd-
upgrade. You can then retry the upgrade process. This process (the reinstall 
from cdrom) will revert any changes to /etc, so you will need to restore that 
from backup. Perhaps others know a better/easier way.

 
 Thank's in advance for your help.

Good luck!

-- 
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Re : freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration

2009-11-26 Thread Alexandre L.
Hi,

I paste this link where Colin Percival explain who to use the tool 
freebsd-update with custom kernel. But I think that same thing as been written 
in the handbook. 
http://forums.freebsd.org/showpost.php?p=30920postcount=9

--- En date de : Jeu 26.11.09, S4mmael s4mm...@gmail.com a écrit :

 De: S4mmael s4mm...@gmail.com
 Objet: freebsd-update with MYKERNEL kernel configuration
 À: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Date: Jeudi 26 Novembre 2009, 13h32
 Hi all!
 
 I've got a problem while upgrading FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE-p3
 - FreeBSD
 8.0-RELESE with freebsd-update(8).
 
 First of all I made a copy of the most configuration files.
 Then I made:
 # freebsd-update -r 8.0-RELEASE upgrade
 All went good, except the message, that because of MYKERNEL
 kernel
 configuration I should upgrade my kernel before
 freebsd-upgrade
 install. Then I was looking for the way of kernel upgrade,
 but found
 nothing. How could I build 8.0 kernel in FreeBSD 7.2? Of
 course, there
 were 7.2 sources in /usr/src and I didn't find any sources
 in
 /var/db/freebsd-update/. It's the first my question.
 
 Thus I decided to upgrade all except the kernel and then
 rebuild the
 kernel (that worked good while upgrading 7.1 - 7.2). I
 made as
 mentioned in hanbook:
 # freebsd-upgrade install
 # shutdown -r now
 # freebsd-upgrade install
 There were many errors bad sistem call on th last
 command. After all
 I discovered that much files from / were lost (I didn't
 find any grep,
 bzcat and so on). On boot kernel can't find fsck_ufs, so
 automatic
 mounting fails. If mounted by hand, there is no way to
 login because
 of some init error. Single user mode works. freebsd-update
 roolback
 can't find any backup. Shell scripts can't find test (it
 really
 doesn't exists in /bin/[ ) and fails.
 
 How can I restore the system? I've FreeBSD 7.1 CD.
 
 Thank's in advance for your help.
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Re: kernel configuration

2009-01-15 Thread Michael Powell
Chuck Swiger wrote:

[snip]
 
 While it is true that you can comment out all but i686 and get a
 working kernel, you will experience reduced performance.  There are a
 number of low-level assembly routines (cf sys/i386/i386/support.s such
 as i586_bcopy) that are conditionalized off of I586_CPU only, even
 though they provide an advantage on i686 platforms also.
 

Thank you very kindly for this info tidbit. In my ignorance I had
routinely built my kernels with only I686_CPU. Since the few boxen
I have are all downlevel every niche I can squeak out some performance
is sought after. Thanks indeed!

-Mike


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Re: kernel configuration

2009-01-15 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jan 15), Michael Powell said:
 Chuck Swiger wrote:
  While it is true that you can comment out all but i686 and get a
  working kernel, you will experience reduced performance.  There are
  a number of low-level assembly routines (cf sys/i386/i386/support.s
  such as i586_bcopy) that are conditionalized off of I586_CPU only,
  even though they provide an advantage on i686 platforms also.
 
 Thank you very kindly for this info tidbit. In my ignorance I had
 routinely built my kernels with only I686_CPU. Since the few boxen I
 have are all downlevel every niche I can squeak out some performance
 is sought after. Thanks indeed!

Actually, those functions are only enabled if the CPU is truly a
586-class processor.  See /sys/i386/isa/npx.c , the npx_attach()
function.  There is a test for cpu_class==CPUCLASS_586, while most
modern CPUs are CPUCLASS_686.

-- 
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dnel...@allantgroup.com
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Re: kernel configuration

2009-01-15 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 15, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Dan Nelson wrote:

Actually, those functions are only enabled if the CPU is truly a
586-class processor.  See /sys/i386/isa/npx.c , the npx_attach()
function.  There is a test for cpu_class==CPUCLASS_586, while most
modern CPUs are CPUCLASS_686.



Thanks for the additional feedback, Dan.  I remember some weirdness  
around things like the VIA C3 Centaur processors, which had CMOV  
feature and claimed to be a 686, but lacked SSE...not that those were  
an especially common case, but I still have one floating around.


I see 686- and SSE2-optimized pagezero routines in support.s, but I  
don't see equivalents for bzero, bcopy, and copyin/copyout.  Is  
something like generic_bzero() faster on a 686-class CPU than  
i586_bzero() would be?


Regards,
--
-Chuck

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kernel configuration

2009-01-14 Thread icemaca


hello,
i am going through the kernel configuration file to build a custom 
kernel and am not quite sure i understand this part correctly.


my cpu is an athlon 64 x2 but i am running i386, so i am assuming that 
in the config  file i state  that my cpu is i386, not athlon 64.


i ran frebsd amd64 previously, and it had HAMMER i think as the cpu in 
the config file.


this i386 version has

cpu I486_CPU
cpu I586_CPU
cpu I686_CPU


Is this correct, and do i need all three?

thank you
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Re: kernel configuration

2009-01-14 Thread Ewald Jenisch
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:37:53PM +0100, icemaca wrote:

 this i386 version has

 cpu I486_CPU
 cpu I586_CPU
 cpu I686_CPU


Basically you can comment all but I686_CPU since the others are for
earlier x86 architectures.

-ewald
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Re: kernel configuration

2009-01-14 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 14, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Ewald Jenisch wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:37:53PM +0100, icemaca wrote:


this i386 version has

cpu I486_CPU
cpu I586_CPU
cpu I686_CPU



Basically you can comment all but I686_CPU since the others are for
earlier x86 architectures.


While it is true that you can comment out all but i686 and get a  
working kernel, you will experience reduced performance.  There are a  
number of low-level assembly routines (cf sys/i386/i386/support.s such  
as i586_bcopy) that are conditionalized off of I586_CPU only, even  
though they provide an advantage on i686 platforms also.


--
-Chuck

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Re: kernel configuration

2009-01-14 Thread t-u-t
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote:

 On Jan 14, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Ewald Jenisch wrote:

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 04:37:53PM +0100, icemaca wrote:


 this i386 version has

 cpu I486_CPU
 cpu I586_CPU
 cpu I686_CPU


 Basically you can comment all but I686_CPU since the others are for
 earlier x86 architectures.


 While it is true that you can comment out all but i686 and get a working
 kernel, you will experience reduced performance.  There are a number of
 low-level assembly routines (cf sys/i386/i386/support.s such as i586_bcopy)
 that are conditionalized off of I586_CPU only, even though they provide an
 advantage on i686 platforms also.

 --
 -Chuck


so in any case it doesn't hurt to leave all 3. right?

I have one last question though, is

makeoptions DEBUG=g necessary if i am not debugging or is it always
necessary to build the kernel properly? can i safely comment it out?
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Re: kernel configuration

2009-01-14 Thread Chuck Swiger

On Jan 14, 2009, at 12:44 PM, t-u-t wrote:
While it is true that you can comment out all but i686 and get a  
working
kernel, you will experience reduced performance.  There are a  
number of
low-level assembly routines (cf sys/i386/i386/support.s such as  
i586_bcopy)
that are conditionalized off of I586_CPU only, even though they  
provide an

advantage on i686 platforms also.

--
-Chuck


so in any case it doesn't hurt to leave all 3. right?


Certainly it doesn't hurt.  As far as I can tell, leaving 486 option  
increases the kernel size (very) slightly but there doesn't seem to be  
many things optimized for 486 which don't have better equivalents  
coded for 586 or 686.


Leaving out the 586 option would not be desirable AFAICT


I have one last question though, is

makeoptions DEBUG=g necessary if i am not debugging or is it always
necessary to build the kernel properly? can i safely comment it out?


It can be commented out safely, yes.

Regards,
--
-Chuck

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Re: Missing kernel configuration files

2008-01-27 Thread Zinevich Denis

I had such mistake several days ago. In my case the reson was that I
forgot that I`m usin amd64 arch, and I placed config to
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf, but the right place was /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf

PS: Ну если не говоришь ты хорошо по английски, то хоть не позорь родной
союз :-). Тему письма надо указывать.
JSCB Alokabank пишет:

Please help me
I'am beginer in FreeBSD
I try to rebuild kernel files for optimizations system.
Whate i gona do?
sorry but i dont speake englash language wery well.
look to include files this is my build kernel.
I'am talk on russian.

make buildkernel KERNCONF=KERNEL
ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KERNEL)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src
#

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Re: Missing kernel configuration files

2008-01-27 Thread Zinevich Denis
I had such mistake several days ago. In my case the reson was that I 
forgot that I`m usin amd64 arch, and I placed config to 
/usr/src/sys/i386/conf, but the right place was /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf


PS: Ну если не говоришь ты хорошо по английски, то хоть не позорь родной 
союз :-). Тему письма надо указывать.

JSCB Alokabank пишет:

Please help me
I'am beginer in FreeBSD
I try to rebuild kernel files for optimizations system.
Whate i gona do?
sorry but i dont speake englash language wery well.
look to include files this is my build kernel.
I'am talk on russian.

make buildkernel KERNCONF=KERNEL
ERROR: Missing kernel configuration file(s) (KERNEL)
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src
#

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Re: kernel configuration failure

2007-10-11 Thread Pietro Cerutti
coriolinus wrote:
 I'm new to kernel building, so I followed the handbook's advice: cd to
 /usr/src, then make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL.
 
 The kernel build process is failing mysteriously. The file it claims
 not to be able to find, /usr/src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm/aicasm.c, is
 sitting in my filesystem exactly where it should be. I'm not even sure
 why exactly it's trying to build that, as I'm pretty sure that I
 disabled the modules in the kernel configuration file which use that
 source.

Actually, that's not the problem.
The file which is not found is the compiler itself:

gcc34:No such file or directory

Maybe you've installed gcc 4.3 from ports, linked /usr/bin/cc to
/usr/local/bin/gcc43 and then upgrade gcc?


 
 Any help getting this to work would be greatly appreciated.
 
 
 
 
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Re: kernel configuration failure

2007-10-10 Thread coriolinus
 Actually, that's not the problem.
 The file which is not found is the compiler itself:

 gcc34:No such file or directory

 Maybe you've installed gcc 4.3 from ports, linked /usr/bin/cc to
 /usr/local/bin/gcc43 and then upgrade gcc?

That doesn't seem right:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]$ which gcc34
/usr/local/bin/gcc34
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# which gcc34
/usr/local/bin/gcc34

It's true that I installed gcc 3.4 from ports and put a line in
/etc/make.conf: CC=gcc34 . However, it's on the path for both my user
and for root; it seems weird that the makefile would lose track of it.
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Re: kernel configuration failure

2007-10-10 Thread Yuri Pankov

coriolinus wrote:

Actually, that's not the problem.
The file which is not found is the compiler itself:

gcc34:No such file or directory

Maybe you've installed gcc 4.3 from ports, linked /usr/bin/cc to
/usr/local/bin/gcc43 and then upgrade gcc?


That doesn't seem right:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]$ which gcc34
/usr/local/bin/gcc34
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]$ su
Password:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] /usr/src]# which gcc34
/usr/local/bin/gcc34

It's true that I installed gcc 3.4 from ports and put a line in
/etc/make.conf: CC=gcc34 . However, it's on the path for both my user
and for root; it seems weird that the makefile would lose track of it.


Makefile doesn't lose it, it just redefines PATH; try using full path to 
gcc binary in /etc/make.conf:


CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc34


Yuri

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saving kernel configuration file into the kernel itself

2007-03-31 Thread lalev
I remember that in FreeBSD 4 there was a way to include configuration file
in the kernel being compiled, but I could not remember what it was and I
could not find it in the handbook. Is there such feature in FreeBSD 6 ?

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Re: saving kernel configuration file into the kernel itself

2007-03-31 Thread Martin Tournoij
On Sat 31 Mar 2007 20:03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I remember that in FreeBSD 4 there was a way to include configuration file
 in the kernel being compiled, but I could not remember what it was and I
 could not find it in the handbook. Is there such feature in FreeBSD 6 ?

From /usr/src/sys/conf/NOTES :

# This allows you to actually store this configuration file into
# the kernel binary itself, where it may be later read by saying:
#strings -n 3 /boot/kernel/kernel | sed -n 's/^___//p'  MYKERNEL
#
options   INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel

Also check out /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES
Replace i386 with your arch.

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Re: changing INMBCLUSTERS kernel configuration option

2006-03-13 Thread Lowell Gilbert
XP 2600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have a FreeBSD 5.4 server i try to change iNMBCLUSTERS kernel
 configuration option using sysctl nmbclusters but its giving me sysctl:
 unknown oid 'nmbclusters', am i missed something ? or its no longer
 available in FreeBSD 5 ??

It should be there.  Please show exactly what you did.
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Re: changing INMBCLUSTERS kernel configuration option

2006-03-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 13 Mar 2006 10:51:17 -0500, Lowell Gilbert
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 XP 2600 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  I have a FreeBSD 5.4 server i try to change iNMBCLUSTERS kernel
  configuration option using sysctl nmbclusters but its giving me sysctl:
  unknown oid 'nmbclusters', am i missed something ? or its no longer
  available in FreeBSD 5 ??

 It should be there.  Please show exactly what you did.

If scroben he correctly, commited he an:

toor# sysctl nmbclusters int

Which sollte have bien:

toor# sysctl kern.ipc.nmbclusters int

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changing INMBCLUSTERS kernel configuration option

2006-03-12 Thread XP 2600
I have a FreeBSD 5.4 server i try to change iNMBCLUSTERS kernel
configuration option using sysctl nmbclusters but its giving me sysctl:
unknown oid 'nmbclusters', am i missed something ? or its no longer
available in FreeBSD 5 ??







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Support for 80386 processors (the I386_CPU kernel configuration option)

2006-01-09 Thread zimmermanjj
Hello.  I quoted the subject of the email directly from the kernel changes 
section of the FreeBSD/i386-RELEASE release notes.  I am not sure if I am 
reading this correctly, but does this mean that people who have Intel-based 
processors (such as P4 and Celeron) should not use 6.0 and only use 5.4?  I 
want to intsall FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE on a Celeron and a P4, and to the best of 
my knowledge they are i386 processors (80386).  If someone could clear this up 
I would appreciate it.

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Re: Support for 80386 processors (the I386_CPU kernel configuration option)

2006-01-09 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2006-01-09 09:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.  I quoted the subject of the email directly from the kernel
 changes section of the FreeBSD/i386-RELEASE release notes.  I am not
 sure if I am reading this correctly, but does this mean that people
 who have Intel-based processors (such as P4 and Celeron) should not
 use 6.0 and only use 5.4?

Of course, not!

It means that 486 and latter processors are supported.

 I want to intsall FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE on a Celeron and a P4, and to
 the best of my knowledge they are i386 processors (80386).

You are referring to a processor family.  The release notes refer to a
particular CPU/processor type.

I'm running 7.0-CURRENT on a Celeron system at home.  You shouldn't have
problems running any version on your CPU, from 4.X, to 5.4 or 5-STABLE,
or evel 6.X.

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Re: Support for 80386 processors (the I386_CPU kernel configuration option)

2006-01-09 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Mon, Jan 09, 2006 at 09:58:20AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello.  I quoted the subject of the email directly from the kernel changes
 section of the FreeBSD/i386-RELEASE release notes.  I am not sure if I am
 reading this correctly, but does this mean that people who have
 Intel-based processors (such as P4 and Celeron) should not use 6.0 and
 only use 5.4?  I want to intsall FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE on a Celeron and a
 P4, and to the best of my knowledge they are i386 processors (80386).  If
 someone could clear this up I would appreciate it.

No, P4 and Celeron are not 80386 processors. They are descended from the
80386 and belong to the i386 *family* of processors, which is a slightly
different thing.


What has been removed from 6.0 is the ability to run on an *actual* 80386
CPU.  They were state of the art in the late 80's, but that is a while ago.
If your computer has a clock frequency of 50 MHz or more, it is almost
certainly not using a real 80386. (If I remember correctly they were
only available in speeds ranging from 16 MHz to 40 MHz.)

FreeBSD 6.0 should run fine on any Intel CPU from the original Pentium and
onwards. (Also on an 80486, if it has an hardware FPU - either built in or
external.)


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Re: Support for 80386 processors (the I386_CPU kernel configuration

2006-01-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
 

Please break your lines at around 70 characters.  It makes it much
easier for people with text based Email readers to read and respond
to your posts.

 Hello.  I quoted the subject of the email directly from the kernel 
 changes section of the FreeBSD/i386-RELEASE release notes.  I am not 
 sure if I am reading this correctly, but does this mean that people 
 who have Intel-based processors (such as P4 and Celeron) should not 
 use 6.0 and only use 5.4?  I want to intsall FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE 
 on a Celeron and a P4, and to the best of my knowledge they 
 are i386 processors (80386).  If someone could clear this up I 
 would appreciate it.

No.  You should use 6.0.
i386 is just a generic name for the whole class of processors
that have followed Intel's i386 line, starting with the 80386 and
everything afterward.P4, P5, P6 and etc all are part of this line.

jerry

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Re: Kernel configuration

2004-12-16 Thread Joshua Lokken
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 11:42:02 -0500, Leon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm installing a BSD, and by documentation what provided, on the beginning of 
 installation I should see Kernel Configuration screen. But after the system 
 buts from my CD, it bring me to the Sysinstall Main Menu. It skip Kernel 
 Conf.
 
 Should I configurate a Kernel?
 If yes, how can a get to this screen?

You can [generally] wait until after the system is installed to configure
a custom kernel.  If you don't have any wonky hardware, the GENERIC
kernel, installed by default, should get your system installed and running.

When you do get to the point where you want to make changes to the
kernel,

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig.html


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Re: Kernel configuration

2004-12-16 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 11:42:02AM -0500, Leon wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm installing a BSD, and by documentation what provided, on the beginning of 
 installation I should see Kernel Configuration screen. But after the system 
 buts from my CD, it bring me to the Sysinstall Main Menu. It skip Kernel 
 Conf. 
 
 Should I configurate a Kernel?
 If yes, how can a get to this screen?

The documentation apparently refers to an older branch of FreeBSD
(4.x), and you're installing 5.x.  Most people don't need to disable
or change device settings in order to boot FreeBSD, but if you do, you
can set the appropriate hint.* variable at the loader prompt when you
boot for the first time, and then customize the settings permanently
in /boot/device.hints.

Kris


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Kernel configuration

2004-12-16 Thread Leon
Hi,

I'm installing a BSD, and by documentation what provided, on the beginning of 
installation I should see Kernel Configuration screen. But after the system 
buts from my CD, it bring me to the Sysinstall Main Menu. It skip Kernel 
Conf. 

Should I configurate a Kernel?
If yes, how can a get to this screen?

Thanks,
Leon.
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error for my kernel configuration, please help

2004-11-05 Thread Jian Guang Xu
I've been trying to configure my first custom kernel according to the
Handbook and looks that I got error in my configuration file, Would
somebody please help me out?
Thank you in advance. 
++
Here is my custom configuration file: 

# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ../../conf/NOTES and NOTES files.
# If you are in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first
# in NOTES.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.413.2.6 2004/09/22 19:23:37
andre Exp $

machine i386
#cpuI486_CPU
#cpuI586_CPU
cpu I686_CPU
ident   PEARLBSD

# To statically compile in device wiring instead of /boot/device.hints
#hints  GENERIC.hints # Default places to look for devices.

options SCHED_4BSD  # 4BSD scheduler
options INET# InterNETworking
options INET6   # IPv6 communications protocols
options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options SOFTUPDATES # Enable FFS soft updates support
options UFS_ACL # Support for access control lists
options UFS_DIRHASH # Improve performance on big directories
options MD_ROOT # MD is a potential root device
#optionsNFSCLIENT   # Network Filesystem Client
#optionsNFSSERVER   # Network Filesystem Server
#optionsNFS_ROOT# NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT
options MSDOSFS # MSDOS Filesystem
options CD9660  # ISO 9660 Filesystem
options PROCFS  # Process filesystem (requires PSEUDOFS)
options PSEUDOFS# Pseudo-filesystem framework
options GEOM_GPT# GUID Partition Tables.
options COMPAT_43   # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options COMPAT_FREEBSD4 # Compatible with FreeBSD4
options SCSI_DELAY=15000# Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options KTRACE  # ktrace(1) support
options SYSVSHM # SYSV-style shared memory
options SYSVMSG # SYSV-style message queues
options SYSVSEM # SYSV-style semaphores
options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # POSIX P1003_1B real-time extensions
options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV# install a CDEV entry in /dev
options AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug
# output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
options AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT# Print register bitfields in debug
# output.  Adds ~215k to driver.
options ADAPTIVE_GIANT  # Giant mutex is adaptive.

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
device  apic# I/O APIC

# Bus support.  Do not remove isa, even if you have no isa slots
device  isa
device  eisa
device  pci

# Floppy drives
device  fdc

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
#device ataraid # ATA RAID drives
device  atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives
device  atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives
#device atapist # ATAPI tape drives
options ATA_STATIC_ID   # Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
#device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family
#device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device ahd # AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices
#device amd # AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device isp # Qlogic family
#device mpt # LSI-Logic MPT-Fusion
#device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic
#device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets + those of `ncr')
#device trm # Tekram DC395U/UW/F DC315U adapters

#device adv # Advansys SCSI adapters
#device adw # Advansys wide SCSI adapters
#device aha # Adaptec 154x SCSI adapters
#device aic # Adaptec 15[012]x SCSI adapters, AIC-6[23]60

Re: error for my kernel configuration, please help

2004-11-05 Thread Rob
Jian Guang Xu wrote:
I've been trying to configure my first custom kernel according to the
Handbook and looks that I got error in my configuration file, Would
somebody please help me out?
Thank you in advance. 
++
Here is my custom configuration file: 

device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
Notice what umass requires: scbus and da.
So you need to enable:
# SCSI peripherals
device  scbus   # SCSI bus (required for SCSI)
device  da  # Direct Access (disks)
R.
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kernel configuration file

2004-10-22 Thread Gert Cuykens
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html

where do i put this ?

device sound 

i am using freebsd 5.3b7

Can you please at to the manual the path of the kernel configuration file thx
Do i need to recompile the kernel ?
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Re: kernel configuration file

2004-10-22 Thread Jonathan Chen
On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 06:09:56AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
 
 where do i put this ?
 
 device sound 
 
 i am using freebsd 5.3b7

The easier option is to put:

snd_driver_load=YES

in /boot/loader.conf.
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Re: kernel configuration file

2004-10-22 Thread Gert Cuykens
did that doesnt work for me ?

asus SK8N onboard sound acl850 if i am not mistaken.


 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 17:21:30 +1300, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 06:09:56AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
   http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
  
   where do i put this ?
  
   device sound
  
   i am using freebsd 5.3b7
 
  The easier option is to put:
 
  snd_driver_load=YES
 
  in /boot/loader.conf.
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Re: kernel configuration file

2004-10-22 Thread Jonathan Chen
[Please don't top post, it's really hard to read]

On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 06:52:56AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
 i dont have any snd_*.ko files and the sound chip is suported by freebsd

If you're running 5.3b7, they should be there; it comes with the
default install.
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Re: kernel configuration file

2004-10-22 Thread Gert Cuykens
i did custom install :P

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:12:20 +1300, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [Please don't top post, it's really hard to read]
 
 On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 06:52:56AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
  i dont have any snd_*.ko files and the sound chip is suported by freebsd
 
 If you're running 5.3b7, they should be there; it comes with the
 default install.
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Re: kernel configuration file

2004-10-22 Thread Gert Cuykens
So i guess this mean kernel compilation from src ? Or can i install
them separately ?

On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 07:13:47 +0200, Gert Cuykens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i did custom install :P
 
 
 
 On Sat, 23 Oct 2004 18:12:20 +1300, Jonathan Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [Please don't top post, it's really hard to read]
 
  On Sat, Oct 23, 2004 at 06:52:56AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
   i dont have any snd_*.ko files and the sound chip is suported by freebsd
 
  If you're running 5.3b7, they should be there; it comes with the
  default install.
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initial install and kernel configuration menu

2004-09-08 Thread Ara Avvali
Sometimes when I want to install 4.10 I get a menu right after boot that
tells me if I want to configure kernel or not. But the problem is it doesn't
show up on some machines. Does anybody know why?

 

 

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automatic custom kernel configuration? is it possible?

2004-08-04 Thread Ara Avvali
Hi
sorry if this might sound lazy but I am wondering if there is any way or 
any program that reads your out put of dmesg and creates a kernel 
configuration file based on what generic kernel has found so I can use 
it to compile the new one which has only modules which I need
In that case it makes sure I have enabled all my hardware and nothing is 
being added or removed by mistake
I read somewhere that netbsd has something like adjust kernel
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Re: automatic custom kernel configuration? is it possible?

2004-08-04 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu
On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 09:47:30 -0400
Ara Avvali [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi
 sorry if this might sound lazy but I am wondering if there is any way or 
 any program that reads your out put of dmesg and creates a kernel 
 configuration file based on what generic kernel has found so I can use 
 it to compile the new one which has only modules which I need

See current@ archives from last 3 weeks  or so for a vast discussion on
this topic.


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Automatic kernel configuration from dmesg output

2004-08-04 Thread Ara Avvali
Hi I am sorry to ask this, but yesterday I was looking to see if there 
is anyway to read the output of dmesg and automatically convert it to a 
readable format to be used to compile the new kernel. In that way it 
will be more specified based on that hardware and making sure I am not 
removing stuff I need
Someone asnwered me back that it has been already dissuces and I swear 
that I can't find the link on mailing list. Did all kind of keyword 
search and nothing has shown up. May I ask the person who replied back 
to give more link plaese? Or if someone has it
I used google and found out that netbsd has such a thing which does 
cataclysm what I want, adjustkernel, but isthere such a thing for freebsd?

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kernel configuration

2004-03-31 Thread Andri Kok
Hi guys,
 
I just switched from linux to freebsd (noob) and trying to configure the kernel. My PC 
is Dell Lattitude CSxH PIII 500, 256MB RAM. Now problems:
 
o According to LINT the CONF_FLAGS inhibit use of non-optimal function does this 
mean that my kernel will be optimized?
 
o I increased the process limits to MAXDSIZ=(1024 * 1024 * 1024) and DFLDSIZ=(1024 
* 1024 * 1024). For an old PC like mine, is this a good idea? I mostly use my 
computer for programming. However, I'd also like it to be quite responsive at times. 
Any ideas?
 
o PQ_CACHESIZE, what is it? what difference does it make if i set it to 512 and not 
256?
 
o The options like: CPU_BLUE_LIGHTNING, CPU_ENABLE_SSE, CPU_FASTER_5x86_FPU, 
CPU_SUSP_HLT, NO_FOOF_HACK. Are they all applicable to my CPU?
 
o USER_LDT, what is this? is it good or bad?
 
o options like: KTRACE, INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT, DIAGNOSTIC are for kernel 
debugging, am I right? I also read in LINT that it will make my kernel size larger. 
Does large kernels means worse performance? Do I really need to debug my kernel?
 
o PERFMON, do I need it? does it improve performance?
 
o UCONSOLE, USERCONFIG  VISUAL_USERCONFIG, do i need them? I'll be running X, and 
according to handbook, UCONSOLE is good for something. What about the rest? Why do 
they have comments like XXX - don't belong here in LINT. Are they not suppose to be 
used?
 
I guess that's all at the moment. Thx in advance. Any replies appreciated.
 
Regards,
 
Andri


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Re: kernel configuration

2004-03-31 Thread Don
 o According to LINT the CONF_FLAGS inhibit use of non-optimal function
 does this mean that my kernel will be optimized?
If you don't know what a kernel variable or flag does, then don't use it.
FreeBSD performs really well without configuring every last option.

 o I increased the process limits to MAXDSIZ=(1024 * 1024 * 1024) and
 DFLDSIZ=(1024 * 1024 * 1024). For an old PC like mine, is this a good
 idea? I mostly use my computer for programming. However, I'd also like
 it to be quite responsive at times. Any ideas?

 o PQ_CACHESIZE, what is it? what difference does it make if i set it to 512 and not 
 256?
Don't bother setting either of these options. The defaults that the kernel
uses are based on your available memory and are good starting points.

 o The options like: CPU_BLUE_LIGHTNING, CPU_ENABLE_SSE,
 CPU_FASTER_5x86_FPU, CPU_SUSP_HLT, NO_FOOF_HACK. Are they all
 applicable to my CPU?
No.


 o USER_LDT, what is this? is it good or bad?
This allows user level control of the LDT (Local descriptor table or some
such). This is needed by some programs.

 o options like: KTRACE, INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT, DIAGNOSTIC are
 for kernel debugging, am I right? I also read in LINT that it will make
 my kernel size larger. Does large kernels means worse performance? Do I
 really need to debug my kernel?
It will make a slightly larger kernel and it will be slightly slower.
Disable these options unless you intend on doing debugging.

 o PERFMON, do I need it? does it improve performance?
Up to you. Not directly.

 o UCONSOLE, USERCONFIG  VISUAL_USERCONFIG, do i need them? I'll be
 running X, and according to handbook, UCONSOLE is good for something.
 What about the rest? Why do they have comments like XXX - don't belong
 here in LINT. Are they not suppose to be used?
UCONSOLE allows the user to grab the console. The other two options are
unnecessary.

Most of these options are described on the web or in the FreeBSD handbook.

-Don
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RE: kernel configuration

2004-03-31 Thread Toni Heinonen
 o options like: KTRACE, INVARIANTS, INVARIANT_SUPPORT, 
 DIAGNOSTIC are for kernel debugging, am I right? I also read 
 in LINT that it will make my kernel size larger. Does large 
 kernels means worse performance? Do I really need to debug my kernel?

No, you don't need to debug your kernel, that's actually for the developers. And yes, 
it makes your kernel bigger AND slower.
  
For the rest, see /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/NOTES

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Kernel configuration

2004-03-26 Thread Toni Heinonen
% grep NFS /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MEITSIN
#optionsNFSCLIENT   # Network Filesystem Client
#optionsNFSSERVER   # Network Filesystem Server
#optionsNFS_ROOT# NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT
% ls /boot/kernel/nfs*
/boot/kernel/nfsclient.ko   /boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko
% grep MEITSIN /boot/kernel/kernel 
Binary file /boot/kernel/kernel matches

I didn't give options NFSCLIENT or NFSSERVER yet it seems to have compiled support. 
What gives?
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Re: Kernel configuration

2004-03-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 08:20:42PM +0200, Toni Heinonen wrote:
 % grep NFS /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/MEITSIN
 #optionsNFSCLIENT   # Network Filesystem Client
 #optionsNFSSERVER   # Network Filesystem Server
 #optionsNFS_ROOT# NFS usable as /, requires NFSCLIENT
 % ls /boot/kernel/nfs*
 /boot/kernel/nfsclient.ko   /boot/kernel/nfsserver.ko
 % grep MEITSIN /boot/kernel/kernel 
 Binary file /boot/kernel/kernel matches
 
 I didn't give options NFSCLIENT or NFSSERVER yet it seems to have compiled support. 
 What gives?

What you don't compile into your kernel (by eg. 'options NFSCLIENT')
will generally be compiled as a loadable module instead -- here
nfsclient.ko

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Kernel configuration

2004-03-26 Thread Joshua Lokken
* Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-26 10:56]:
 On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 08:20:42PM +0200, Toni Heinonen wrote:
  
  I didn't give options NFSCLIENT or NFSSERVER yet it seems to have compiled 
  support. What gives?
 
 What you don't compile into your kernel (by eg. 'options NFSCLIENT')
 will generally be compiled as a loadable module instead -- here
 nfsclient.ko
 

I've wondered about this -- is that the significance of the 

NO_MODULES parameter in make.conf?  IOW, if one was to specify
no_modules, would that build only the kernel modules that were
specified in the conf?


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Re: Kernel configuration

2004-03-26 Thread Matthew Seaman
[ kernel modules ]

On Fri, Mar 26, 2004 at 11:03:49AM -0800, Joshua Lokken wrote:
 * Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-26 10:56]:

  What you don't compile into your kernel (by eg. 'options NFSCLIENT')
  will generally be compiled as a loadable module instead -- here
  nfsclient.ko

 I've wondered about this -- is that the significance of the 
 
 NO_MODULES parameter in make.conf?  IOW, if one was to specify
 no_modules, would that build only the kernel modules that were
 specified in the conf?

If you put NO_MODULES=true into /etc/make.conf, then you'll only get
the kernel build.  You won't get any extra loadable modules.

Other than that, you can specify a list of modules to build if you
don't want all of them:

MODULES_OVERRIDE=  linux ipfw

Not sure what happens if you configure those options in the kernel
config, and also add them to the 'MODULES_OVERRIDE' list.  

There's also 'MODULES_WITH_WORLD=true' which separates building kernel
modules from building the rest of the kernel.  This is solely for
backwards compatability -- I can't think of any good reason to use
this option otherwise.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Kernel configuration

2004-03-26 Thread Joshua Lokken
* Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-03-26 11:57]:
 [ kernel modules ]
 
 If you put NO_MODULES=true into /etc/make.conf, then you'll only get
 the kernel build.  You won't get any extra loadable modules.

Got it.  Thank you.  On my workstations, where resources are
plentiful, I suppose it doesn't matter much to have all of the kernel
modules built and installed, but on resource-scant or single-purpose
machines (ie firewall/router), it seems that it would be somewhat
significant to exclude them.  Others' feedback?

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reserving ATA channel numbers in kernel configuration files

2004-02-22 Thread Dan Strick
Is there any way to reserve specific ATA channel numbers for specific
PCI ATA controllers?

During bootstrap my kernel says:

atapci0: ITE 8212 ATA/RAID controller port 0x8800-0x880f,
0x8400-0x8403,0x8010-0x8017,0x7c00-0x7c03,0x7810-0x7817
irq 16 at device 12.0 on pci3
ata2: at 0x7810 on atapci0
ata3: at 0x8010 on atapci0

atapci1: Intel ICH5 ATA100 controller port 0xf000-0xf00f,0-0x3,
0-0x7,0-0x3,0-0x7 irq 9 at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci1
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci1

atapci2: Intel ICH5 SATA150 controller port 0xd000-0xd00f,
0xcc00-0xcc03,0xc800-0xc807,0xc400-0xc403,0xc000-0xc007
irq 9 at device 31.2 on pci0
ata4: at 0xc000 on atapci2
ata5: at 0xc800 on atapci2

The relevant part of my kernel configuration file currently says:

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device  ata0at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device  ata1at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device  ata
device  atadisk # ATA disk drives
...
options ATA_STATIC_ID   #Static device numbering

I want the ICH5 SATA150 channels to be ata2 and ata3.

Thanks,
Dan Strick
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network throughput and kernel configuration...

2004-01-26 Thread ander Sendzimir
I've been experimenting with kernel configurations and network 
performance. I'm running a dual Xeon processor (500MHz) system with 
10/100 ethernet (Intel). It's an Intel motherboard. The cable is CAT5 
and I'm transferring between the FBSD box and an Apple G4 laptop with 
10/100 ethernet. This is going through a Netgear 10/100 hub (non 
switching). In my limited capacity I'm using ncftp{put/get} to transfer 
large files. Using a basic, no frills custom kernel (nothing 
controversial), ncftp shows about 7.5MB/s throughput between these two 
machines. I added the following lines to my kernel conf

options DEVICE_POLLING
options HZ=1000
and modified /etc/sysctl.conf by adding

	kern.polling.enable=1

and now ncftp shows about 8 MB/s. (Recompile, reboot, etc)

Perhaps I'm dreaming, but shouldn't I be getting better network 
throughput in either case? Perhaps a switch would be better than a hub?

The G4 Powerbook shows its running en0 at half-duplex over 100baseTX. 
Which, I think, is the same for the dual Xeon system. Both are 
autoselect. Perhaps I should scrap the kernel config issue and 
configure both interfaces for full-duplex 100baseTX.

Thoughts/experience/advice?

Thanks for the help, as always.

Alex

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Re: FreeBSD-5.1 iso disk2 and kernel configuration

2003-07-24 Thread Essetee
Toomas Aas wrote:

2)I used the iso disk1 to install version 5.1 but I could not configure 
the kernel. I followed the kernel configuration procedure and the 
linking process yielded  the following lines:
BEGIN of inserted lines -
linking kernel
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x17c7): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x1818): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc'
umass.o(.text+0x1827): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free'
umass.o(.text+0x1847): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback':
umass.o(.text+0x1883): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan':
umass.o(.text+0x18f5): undefined reference to `xpt_periph'
umass.o(.text+0x1904): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
umass.o(.text+0x1920): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb'
umass.o(.text+0x193d): undefined reference to `xpt_action'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim':
umass.o(.text+0x1a2c): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister'
umass.o(.text+0x1a48): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action':
umass.o(.text+0x1ebd): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x202b): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x2191): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
umass.o: In function `umass_cam_quirk_cb':
umass.o(.text+0x21bb): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
*** Error code 1
   

 

What is missing in my installation?
   

If it were FreeBSD 4.x, I'd say that device scbus and device da
are missing in your kernel config file. Perhaps it's the same
with 5.1
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If you don't have a usb hard disk, disable the umass option.

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Re: FreeBSD-5.1 iso disk2 and kernel configuration

2003-07-21 Thread Toomas Aas
 2)I used the iso disk1 to install version 5.1 but I could not configure 
 the kernel. I followed the kernel configuration procedure and the 
 linking process yielded  the following lines:
 BEGIN of inserted lines -
 linking kernel
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_attach_sim':
 umass.o(.text+0x17c7): undefined reference to `cam_simq_alloc'
 umass.o(.text+0x1818): undefined reference to `cam_sim_alloc'
 umass.o(.text+0x1827): undefined reference to `cam_simq_free'
 umass.o(.text+0x1847): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_register'
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan_callback':
 umass.o(.text+0x1883): undefined reference to `xpt_free_path'
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_rescan':
 umass.o(.text+0x18f5): undefined reference to `xpt_periph'
 umass.o(.text+0x1904): undefined reference to `xpt_create_path'
 umass.o(.text+0x1920): undefined reference to `xpt_setup_ccb'
 umass.o(.text+0x193d): undefined reference to `xpt_action'
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_detach_sim':
 umass.o(.text+0x1a2c): undefined reference to `xpt_bus_deregister'
 umass.o(.text+0x1a48): undefined reference to `cam_sim_free'
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_action':
 umass.o(.text+0x1ebd): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_cb':
 umass.o(.text+0x202b): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_sense_cb':
 umass.o(.text+0x2191): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
 umass.o: In function `umass_cam_quirk_cb':
 umass.o(.text+0x21bb): undefined reference to `xpt_done'
 *** Error code 1

 What is missing in my installation?

If it were FreeBSD 4.x, I'd say that device scbus and device da
are missing in your kernel config file. Perhaps it's the same
with 5.1

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Re: kernel configuration

2003-03-09 Thread taxman
On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:26 pm, charles pelletier wrote:
 Okay, just to make sure this is correct (my first use of the newer more
 current kernel config)..

 The only steps involved are those listed in the handbook:
 Change to the /usr/src directory.
 # cd /usr/src
 Compile the kernel.
 # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
 Install the new kernel.
 # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL

 I don't have to do any other steps, as in those in the original method
 (make, make depend, etc)?

That is correct.

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RE: kernel configuration

2003-03-09 Thread charles pelletier
thanks for the help !

Charles Pelletier
Tech Coordinator
St Luke's School
Irving, TX 


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On Saturday 08 March 2003 04:26 pm, charles pelletier wrote:
 Okay, just to make sure this is correct (my first use of the newer more
 current kernel config)..

 The only steps involved are those listed in the handbook:
 Change to the /usr/src directory.
 # cd /usr/src
 Compile the kernel.
 # make buildkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL
 Install the new kernel.
 # make installkernel KERNCONF=MYKERNEL

 I don't have to do any other steps, as in those in the original method
 (make, make depend, etc)?

That is correct.



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Re: custom kernel configuration: make fails

2002-11-12 Thread Denis N. Peplin
On Monday 11 November 2002 21:24, Stefan Farrenkopf wrote:
 Hi there,

 I hope anybody can help me.
 I followed the Handbook to make a new kernel. The main interest for
 doing so is: I need to mount Netware volumes, etc. and I want to use my
 onboard SoundMax sound device. By going through I disabled a lot of
 stuff I do not need (SCSI, RAID, some USB devices etc) and added some
 nice stuff I may want to use in the near future (IPSec).
 The config command and make depend went well, but make produces an error
 and because I am a newbie I did not find the error until now.
 Perhaps somebody can help me to get the new kernel?
 BTW: i tried the make buildkernel command (second way to build a
 kernel), but it refuses to work with:
 localhost# make buildkernel KERNCONF=mykernel
 make: don't know how to make buildkernel. Stop
# cd /usr/src
# make buildkernel KERNCONF=mykernel
will work

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custom kernel configuration: make fails

2002-11-11 Thread Stefan Farrenkopf
Hi there,

I hope anybody can help me.
I followed the Handbook to make a new kernel. The main interest for 
doing so is: I need to mount Netware volumes, etc. and I want to use my 
onboard SoundMax sound device. By going through I disabled a lot of 
stuff I do not need (SCSI, RAID, some USB devices etc) and added some 
nice stuff I may want to use in the near future (IPSec).
The config command and make depend went well, but make produces an error 
and because I am a newbie I did not find the error until now.
Perhaps somebody can help me to get the new kernel?
BTW: i tried the make buildkernel command (second way to build a 
kernel), but it refuses to work with:
localhost# make buildkernel KERNCONF=mykernel
make: don't know how to make buildkernel. Stop

Thanks for your help, cheers
Stefan

My kernel configuration file follows:

#
# mykernel -- kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 with IPX support
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
# 
http://www.FreeBSD.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.48 2002/08/31 20:28:26 
obrien Exp $

machine		i386
cpu		I686_CPU
ident		mykernel
maxusers	0

#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options		IPSEC			#IP security
options		IPSEC_ESP		#IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSec
options IPX			#IPX/SPX communications protocols
options		NCP			#Netware Core protocol
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options 	UFS_DIRHASH		#Improve performance on big directories
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
options		NWFS			#NetWare filesystem
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
options 	SCSI_DELAY=5000 	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev
options		AHC_REG_PRETTY_PRINT	# Print register bitfields in debug
	# output.  Adds ~128k to driver.
options		AHD_REG_PRETTY_PRINT	# Print register bitfields in debug
	# output.  Adds ~215k to driver.
options		PNPBIOS			# support PNPBIOS to make onboard sound available

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O

device		isa
device		eisa
device		pci
device		pcm			# onBoard soundcard

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1
#
# If you have a Toshiba Libretto with its Y-E Data PCMCIA floppy,
# don't use the above line for fdc0 but the following one:
#device		fdc0

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
#device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
#device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device		ahd		# AHA39320/29320 and onboard AIC79xx devices
#device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#device		isp		# Qlogic family
#device		mpt		# LSI-Logic MPT/Fusion
#device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when
# both sym and ncr are configured

#device		adv0	at isa?
#device		adw
#device		bt0	at isa?
#device		aha0	at isa?
#device		aic0	at isa?

#device		ncv		# NCR