Re: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want

2011-11-06 Thread Bill Tillman

 


From: Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com
To: Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com
Cc: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Saturday, November 5, 2011 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want

So... basically you've just set up servers that utilize the host connection or 
doesn't route?

On Nov 5, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Bill Tillman wrote:

  
 
 
 From: Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 10:22 AM
 Subject: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want
 
 I have a PE 2450 with dual NICs and I want to turn it into a bridging VPN for 
 the guys in the office to utilize.
 
 Our configuration:
 My office: 192.168.46.0/24
     Server IPs: 192.168.46.2 [8.2-RELEASE] + public IP
 Corporate office: 192.168.45.0/24
 My VPN: 192.168.47.0/24 [preferred]
 There's a NetVanta VPN between my office and the corporate office and I 
 presume that will still work to route 47.0/24 to 45.0/24 when all is said and 
 done.
 
 I am going to be supporting Windows and Mac clients (well, all windows and 
 then my mac) and I'd like to test it from my 8.2 server at home before 
 pushing this over to my MacBook Pro (using Tunnelblick) and then to my 
 Windows users.
 
 I've tried the FreeBSD handbook and the Section6.net walkthroughs to no avail.
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Ryan 
 
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 I can't say that I'm familiar with your setup which uses bridging. But I 
 setup OpenVPN to work on a server inside my LAN which is behind my FreeBSD 
 firewall server. The setup wasn't that hard, you just have to forward the 
 right ports and get the certificates copied to the clients correctly. The 
 docs on the OpenVPN site were very helpful in this for me. 
 The trouble you may find is that this other VPN appliance you reference, 
 NetVanta, may or may not be compatible with OpenVPN. I tried this several 
 years ago with a remote company I was working for and found out quite 
 dissappointingly that the protocol used by OpenVPN would not work whatsoever 
 with Cisco equipment. That may have changed now but at the time all the 
 advice I got was forget about it. Cisco equipment would not work with OpenVPN 
 period. Luckily at the time I had a small Cisco appliance at my house and 
 that is the only way I could get that setup to work. These days I happily 
 connect to my LAN with encrypted tunnels from most places like hotels, etc... 
 There is a problem sometimes at places like Starbucks or McDonalds where they 
 have equipment which is blocking ports needed to run VPN. And in most cases 
 it's not that they are blocking specific ports, it's that they are blocking 
 everything except port 80 to only let their freebie users surf web
 content. 
 YMMVcheck the docs on the OpenVPN site. Many HOWTOs and examples will 
 help you get going.
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Yes, but the setup is very similar. The docs available on the OpenVPN website 
give HOWTOs on both setups and they are very similar. I would check these as I 
found them to be very helpful. OpenVPN also has a great mailing list where I 
got some additional help.

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Re: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want

2011-11-05 Thread Bill Tillman
 


From: Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com
To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 10:22 AM
Subject: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want

I have a PE 2450 with dual NICs and I want to turn it into a bridging VPN for 
the guys in the office to utilize.

Our configuration:
My office: 192.168.46.0/24
    Server IPs: 192.168.46.2 [8.2-RELEASE] + public IP
Corporate office: 192.168.45.0/24
My VPN: 192.168.47.0/24 [preferred]
There's a NetVanta VPN between my office and the corporate office and I presume 
that will still work to route 47.0/24 to 45.0/24 when all is said and done.

I am going to be supporting Windows and Mac clients (well, all windows and then 
my mac) and I'd like to test it from my 8.2 server at home before pushing this 
over to my MacBook Pro (using Tunnelblick) and then to my Windows users.

I've tried the FreeBSD handbook and the Section6.net walkthroughs to no avail.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ryan 

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I can't say that I'm familiar with your setup which uses bridging. But I 
setup OpenVPN to work on a server inside my LAN which is behind my FreeBSD 
firewall server. The setup wasn't that hard, you just have to forward the right 
ports and get the certificates copied to the clients correctly. The docs on the 
OpenVPN site were very helpful in this for me. 
The trouble you may find is that this other VPN appliance you reference, 
NetVanta, may or may not be compatible with OpenVPN. I tried this several years 
ago with a remote company I was working for and found out quite 
dissappointingly that the protocol used by OpenVPN would not work whatsoever 
with Cisco equipment. That may have changed now but at the time all the advice 
I got was forget about it. Cisco equipment would not work with OpenVPN period. 
Luckily at the time I had a small Cisco appliance at my house and that is the 
only way I could get that setup to work. These days I happily connect to my LAN 
with encrypted tunnels from most places like hotels, etc... There is a problem 
sometimes at places like Starbucks or McDonalds where they have equipment which 
is blocking ports needed to run VPN. And in most cases it's not that they are 
blocking specific ports, it's that they are blocking everything except port 80 
to only let their freebie users surf web
 content. 
YMMVcheck the docs on the OpenVPN site. Many HOWTOs and examples will help 
you get going.
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Re: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want

2011-11-05 Thread perryh
Bill Tillman btillma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 the protocol used by OpenVPN would not work whatsoever with
 Cisco equipment ...

That's what security/vpnc is for :)
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Re: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want

2011-11-05 Thread Ryan Coleman
So... basically you've just set up servers that utilize the host connection or 
doesn't route?

On Nov 5, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Bill Tillman wrote:

  
 
 
 From: Ryan Coleman edi...@d3photography.com
 To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Sent: Friday, November 4, 2011 10:22 AM
 Subject: OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want
 
 I have a PE 2450 with dual NICs and I want to turn it into a bridging VPN for 
 the guys in the office to utilize.
 
 Our configuration:
 My office: 192.168.46.0/24
 Server IPs: 192.168.46.2 [8.2-RELEASE] + public IP
 Corporate office: 192.168.45.0/24
 My VPN: 192.168.47.0/24 [preferred]
 There's a NetVanta VPN between my office and the corporate office and I 
 presume that will still work to route 47.0/24 to 45.0/24 when all is said and 
 done.
 
 I am going to be supporting Windows and Mac clients (well, all windows and 
 then my mac) and I'd like to test it from my 8.2 server at home before 
 pushing this over to my MacBook Pro (using Tunnelblick) and then to my 
 Windows users.
 
 I've tried the FreeBSD handbook and the Section6.net walkthroughs to no avail.
 
 Any help would be appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Ryan 
 
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 I can't say that I'm familiar with your setup which uses bridging. But I 
 setup OpenVPN to work on a server inside my LAN which is behind my FreeBSD 
 firewall server. The setup wasn't that hard, you just have to forward the 
 right ports and get the certificates copied to the clients correctly. The 
 docs on the OpenVPN site were very helpful in this for me. 
 The trouble you may find is that this other VPN appliance you reference, 
 NetVanta, may or may not be compatible with OpenVPN. I tried this several 
 years ago with a remote company I was working for and found out quite 
 dissappointingly that the protocol used by OpenVPN would not work whatsoever 
 with Cisco equipment. That may have changed now but at the time all the 
 advice I got was forget about it. Cisco equipment would not work with OpenVPN 
 period. Luckily at the time I had a small Cisco appliance at my house and 
 that is the only way I could get that setup to work. These days I happily 
 connect to my LAN with encrypted tunnels from most places like hotels, etc... 
 There is a problem sometimes at places like Starbucks or McDonalds where they 
 have equipment which is blocking ports needed to run VPN. And in most cases 
 it's not that they are blocking specific ports, it's that they are blocking 
 everything except port 80 to only let their freebie users surf web
 content. 
 YMMVcheck the docs on the OpenVPN site. Many HOWTOs and examples will 
 help you get going.
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OpenVPN - what configuration do I need/want

2011-11-04 Thread Ryan Coleman
I have a PE 2450 with dual NICs and I want to turn it into a bridging VPN for 
the guys in the office to utilize.

Our configuration:
My office: 192.168.46.0/24
Server IPs: 192.168.46.2 [8.2-RELEASE] + public IP
Corporate office: 192.168.45.0/24
My VPN: 192.168.47.0/24 [preferred]
There's a NetVanta VPN between my office and the corporate office and I presume 
that will still work to route 47.0/24 to 45.0/24 when all is said and done.

I am going to be supporting Windows and Mac clients (well, all windows and then 
my mac) and I'd like to test it from my 8.2 server at home before pushing this 
over to my MacBook Pro (using Tunnelblick) and then to my Windows users.

I've tried the FreeBSD handbook and the Section6.net walkthroughs to no avail.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Ryan 

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what to do about missing Flash and missing Java

2011-07-24 Thread Henry Olyer
I love FreeBSD, (and though years ago I was a Slackware user,) I much prefer
the BSD's.  But guy's, we really have to solve these problems.

So here it is, I just installed 8.2 and need the latest Flash.  What's the
right procedure here, please.
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Re: what to do about missing Flash and missing Java

2011-07-24 Thread Mark Felder
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 19:22:54 -0500, Henry Olyer henry.ol...@gmail.com  
wrote:




So here it is, I just installed 8.2 and need the latest Flash.  What's  
the

right procedure here, please.


Java is not a problem and non-native flash has worked without issues here  
for a very long time. In fact, it's less problematic than actually running  
the native linux version on linux in my opinion.


The handbook has everything you need to know:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
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what to do with multimedia/xvid4conf

2011-05-06 Thread Jimmie James

pkgdb -Ff
---  Checking the package registry database
Stale origin: 'multimedia/xvid4conf': perhaps moved or obsoleted.
- The port 'multimedia/xvid4conf' was removed on 2011-05-02 because:
Has expired: Upstream has disapear and distfile is no more available
- Hint:  xvid4conf-1.12_5 is required by the following package(s):
subtitleripper-0.3.4_5
dvdrip-0.98.11_3
transcode-1.1.5_15
tovid-0.30_9
- Hint: checking for overwritten files...
 - No files installed by xvid4conf-1.12_5 have been overwritten by 
other packages.

Deinstall xvid4conf-1.12_5 ? [no]

Since it's required by other ports, removing it will break them, so I 
have to be harassed by this message every time I update my ports?  Is 
there a way to hide this?



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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-18 Thread O. Hartmann

On 11/18/10 03:12, Rob Farmer wrote:

On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:58, O. Hartmann
ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de  wrote:

Thanks.
I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some difficulties
for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool environment.

By the way, the global environment variable ${CSH} seems to be noneexistent,
instead ${SH} exists.


Interesting - I assumed it would be listed in bsd.commands.mk, but it
seems to not be. Most of the base system tools are. In any case, glad
to hear you got it working.



Well,
in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR?
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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-18 Thread Rob Farmer
2010/11/18 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de:
 Well,
 in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR?


Try asking on the ports@ list. I'm not sure what the criteria is for
something being listed there - if something isn't going to be used by
very many ports, it may not be worth adding, from a bloat point of
view. I would say it is probably safe for your port to assume csh is
/bin/csh, though.

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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-18 Thread O. Hartmann

On 11/18/10 13:52, Rob Farmer wrote:

2010/11/18 O. Hartmannohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de:

Well,
in this case, it would really be a 'nice to have', maybe this is worth a PR?



Try asking on the ports@ list. I'm not sure what the criteria is for
something being listed there - if something isn't going to be used by
very many ports, it may not be worth adding, from a bloat point of
view. I would say it is probably safe for your port to assume csh is
/bin/csh, though.



I'll do,
thanks ;-)

Oliver
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porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread O. Hartmann

Hello.

I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and 
is build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely 
into some lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need 
to tell the top level Makefile of the port to use a specific build 
script instead implying having Makefile and a home-brewn install script, 
which takes the binaries and libs out of the temporary folders and 
install them at the proper places within the FreeBSD's tree. How can I 
perform these two tasks?


Please set my CC, I'm not subscribing this list. Thanks in advance,


Oliver
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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread Rob Farmer
2010/11/17 O. Hartmann ohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de:
 Hello.

 I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is
 build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some
 lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need to tell the
 top level Makefile of the port to use a specific build script instead
 implying having Makefile and a home-brewn install script, which takes the
 binaries and libs out of the temporary folders and install them at the
 proper places within the FreeBSD's tree. How can I perform these two tasks?

You want to override the do-build target, something like:

do-build:
${CSH} ${WRKSRC}/build-script.csh
you can list additional commands as necessary

For the install, do the same with the do-install target. Unless your
install script is particularly long or complicated, it will probably
be best to put it right into the port's Makefile. Then you can use the
INSTALL macros to ensure permissions are set correctly, binaries are
stripped if the user doesn't specify WITH_DEBUG, etc.

If you haven't already, check out the Porter's Handbook - it will
familiarize you with important guidelines and covers a lot of common
problems:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/

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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread O. Hartmann

On 11/17/10 22:01, Rob Farmer wrote:

2010/11/17 O. Hartmannohart...@zedat.fu-berlin.de:

Hello.

I try to create a port of a software which does not have a Makefile and is
build via a propriate csh script. Installation is done temporarely into some
lib's and exe's subfolder withing the source folder, so I need to tell the
top level Makefile of the port to use a specific build script instead
implying having Makefile and a home-brewn install script, which takes the
binaries and libs out of the temporary folders and install them at the
proper places within the FreeBSD's tree. How can I perform these two tasks?


You want to override the do-build target, something like:

do-build:
${CSH} ${WRKSRC}/build-script.csh
you can list additional commands as necessary

For the install, do the same with the do-install target. Unless your
install script is particularly long or complicated, it will probably
be best to put it right into the port's Makefile. Then you can use the
INSTALL macros to ensure permissions are set correctly, binaries are
stripped if the user doesn't specify WITH_DEBUG, etc.

If you haven't already, check out the Porter's Handbook - it will
familiarize you with important guidelines and covers a lot of common
problems:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/


Thanks.
I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some 
difficulties for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool 
environment.


By the way, the global environment variable ${CSH} seems to be 
noneexistent, instead ${SH} exists.


Regards,
Oliver
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Re: porting software to FreeBSD, what to do if Makefile lacks?

2010-11-17 Thread Rob Farmer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:58, O. Hartmann
ohart...@mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de wrote:
 Thanks.
 I got it. But it seems that my first porting task run into some difficulties
 for the advanced porters, since there is no autotool environment.

 By the way, the global environment variable ${CSH} seems to be noneexistent,
 instead ${SH} exists.

Interesting - I assumed it would be listed in bsd.commands.mk, but it
seems to not be. Most of the base system tools are. In any case, glad
to hear you got it working.

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Re: what to do when FreeBSD cannot do something?

2010-07-09 Thread Iv Ray
On 07.07.2010, at 23:24, Henrik Hudson wrote:
 One caveat is that ESX / ESXi are very picky about their hardware
 and pretty much won't run on anything but server class devices
 (mobo, NICs and CPU are the big ones).

Yes, I'm aware of that. We have entry level, but ESXi compatible, HP and IBM 
servers.

 VMware still has their VMware
 Server (software) solution, but it's slowly being phased out. Also,
 it's against the EULA to use ESXi for commercial / reseller
 purposes and ESX isn't cheap.

Oh, wasn't aware about the ESXi EULA... will check, thank you.

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Re: what to do when FreeBSD cannot do something?

2010-07-09 Thread Iv Ray
On 08.07.2010, at 03:04, Olivier Nicole wrote:
 That's the idea: bare metal and free, proxmox has something based
 on... I don't remember. I opted for vmware becuase it seems to be more
 wide spread.

Yes, that's what I think, too.

 You will have to make your fingers dirty, because once you are
 installing any OS on a virtual machine, it is as dirty as installing
 on a bare hardware: you need to learn how to install, tune and secure
 that new OS...
 
 Good luck,

Right.

It's rather the comfort that I can have the right for every case (i. e. Oracle, 
Interbase) without asking for budget for a physical machine and having to take 
care of one more physical machine.

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what to do when FreeBSD cannot do something?

2010-07-07 Thread Iv Ray
Hello everyone,

I have been using FreeBSD since 4.x for web related applications (php, Apache, 
PostgreSQL, Postfix, Cyrus IMAP, etc.), and while I am not an expert, I feel 
quite comfortable.

Lately I find myself in situations where I have I have to take care of legacy 
Oracle (10g on Windows) and Interbase (6 on Linux) databases and sometimes 
legacy OS which need to be run for some time in a virtual machine, and I have 
difficulties to accomplish this with FreeBSD - no Oracle port, no Interbase 
port and only VirtualBox support, which is a bit unclear to me.

What is the recommended parallel way for a person, who feels comfortable with 
FreeBSD, when FreeBSD cannot do the job? - i. e. is it a good idea to go 
towards Solaris, instead of Linux? Or rather go towards some sort of Linux?

Thank you,
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Re: what to do when FreeBSD cannot do something?

2010-07-07 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi,

 What is the recommended parallel way for a person, who feels
 comfortable with FreeBSD, when FreeBSD cannot do the job? - i. e. is
 it a good idea to go towards Solaris, instead of Linux? Or rather go
 towards some sort of Linux?

I see 2 questions in one.

What virtulization system to use? Personnally I use ESXi from vmware

What OS to use instead of FreeBSD? It depends on what is recommended
for your application, what resources you have available around you,
etc. For a similar problem I choosed Ubuntu because Ubuntu was well
supported by the application and some colleagues had a decent
knwoledge of ubuntu.

Best regards,

olivier
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Re: what to do when FreeBSD cannot do something?

2010-07-07 Thread Iv Ray
 What virtulization system to use? Personnally I use ESXi from vmware

This was a great tip, thank you. I wasn't aware that ESXi is a bare metal and 
free.

 What OS to use instead of FreeBSD? It depends on what is recommended
 for your application, what resources you have available around you,
 etc. For a similar problem I choosed Ubuntu because Ubuntu was well
 supported by the application and some colleagues had a decent
 knwoledge of ubuntu.

I am not fanatic about FreeBSD, but I feel very comfortable with it and I 
resist change. However your ESXi tip would allow me to run ESXi on bare metal 
and virtualize simple installations of the unpleasant legacy OSes without 
making my fingers too dirty.

Thank you very much,
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Re: what to do when FreeBSD cannot do something?

2010-07-07 Thread Henrik Hudson
On Wed, 07 Jul 2010, Iv Ray wrote:

  What virtulization system to use? Personnally I use ESXi from vmware
 
 This was a great tip, thank you. I wasn't aware that ESXi is a bare metal and 
 free.
 
  What OS to use instead of FreeBSD? It depends on what is recommended
  for your application, what resources you have available around you,
  etc. For a similar problem I choosed Ubuntu because Ubuntu was well
  supported by the application and some colleagues had a decent
  knwoledge of ubuntu.
 
 I am not fanatic about FreeBSD, but I feel very comfortable with it and I 
 resist change. However your ESXi tip would allow me to run ESXi on bare metal 
 and virtualize simple installations of the unpleasant legacy OSes without 
 making my fingers too dirty.
 
 Thank you very much,

One caveat is that ESX / ESXi are very picky about their hardware
and pretty much won't run on anything but server class devices
(mobo, NICs and CPU are the big ones). VMware still has their VMware
Server (software) solution, but it's slowly being phased out. Also,
it's against the EULA to use ESXi for commercial / reseller
purposes and ESX isn't cheap.

henrik
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Re: what to do when FreeBSD cannot do something?

2010-07-07 Thread Olivier Nicole
  What virtulization system to use? Personnally I use ESXi from vmware
 
 This was a great tip, thank you. I wasn't aware that ESXi is a bare metal and 
 free.

That's the idea: bare metal and free, proxmox has something based
on... I don't remember. I opted for vmware becuase it seems to be more
wide spread.


  What OS to use instead of FreeBSD? It depends on what is recommended
  for your application, what resources you have available around you,
  etc. For a similar problem I choosed Ubuntu because Ubuntu was well
  supported by the application and some colleagues had a decent
  knwoledge of ubuntu.
 
 I am not fanatic about FreeBSD, but I feel very comfortable with it and I 
 resist change. However your ESXi tip would allow me to run ESXi on bare metal 
 and virtualize simple installations of the unpleasant legacy OSes without 
 making my fingers too dirty.

You will have to make your fingers dirty, because once you are
installing any OS on a virtual machine, it is as dirty as installing
on a bare hardware: you need to learn how to install, tune and secure
that new OS...

Good luck,

olivier
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kern.maxfiles limit exceeded... what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread VeeJay
Hi there

I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this
problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to
increase the limit and avoid this error?

kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25022] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
files open in the system
Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25023] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
files open in the system
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)

Then I am unable to login on the server by consol or ssh. what to do?
-- 
Thanks!

BR / vj
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Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded... what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread Wojciech Puchar

increase kern.maxfiles :)

in sysctl.conf

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, VeeJay wrote:


Hi there

I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this
problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to
increase the limit and avoid this error?

kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25022] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
files open in the system
Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25023] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
files open in the system
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)

Then I am unable to login on the server by consol or ssh. what to do?
--
Thanks!

BR / vj


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Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003? what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread Frederique Rijsdijk
VeeJay wrote:
 Hi there
 
 I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this
 problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to
 increase the limit and avoid this error?
 
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25022] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25023] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 
 When this happens, I am unable to login on the server by consol or ssh. what
 to do? And I have to restart the server manually by on/off switch...


If it's not a very busy machine, something must be wrong with postfix to
cause this error.

If it is a busy machine, you can increase the kern.maxfiles.

sysctl kern.maxfiles=number

You can set it in /etc/sysctl.conf to set it at boot time.



-- Frederique


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Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003? what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread till plewe
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:11 PM, VeeJay maan...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi there

 I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this
 problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to
 increase the limit and avoid this error?


sysctl -a | grep kern.maxfiles

and then

sysctl kern.maxfiles=123456789 (or some other BIG number)



 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25022] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25023] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)

 When this happens, I am unable to login on the server by consol or ssh. what
 to do? And I have to restart the server manually by on/off switch...
 --
 Thanks!

 BR / vj
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Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003? what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread Peter
Hello,

Check your HHD. Last time I hit this on a not busy machine it was the
RAID card. Do you use RAID on it ?

Peter

Frederique Rijsdijk wrote:
sysctl kern.maxfiles=number
 
 You can set it in /etc/sysctl.conf to set it at boot time.
 
 
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Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003? what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread Pieter de Goeje
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 14:11:02 VeeJay wrote:
 Hi there
 
 I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this
 problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to
 increase the limit and avoid this error?
 
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25022] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25023] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 
 When this happens, I am unable to login on the server by consol or ssh. what
 to do? And I have to restart the server manually by on/off switch...

Check kern.openfiles sysctl to see if it is close to kern.maxfiles. Tune 
kern.maxfiles and kern.maxfilesperproc (use bigger numbers).

kern.maxfiles: Maximum number of files
kern.maxfilesperproc: Maximum files allowed open per process
kern.openfiles: System-wide number of open files

HTH,
Pieter de Goeje
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Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003? what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 14 April 2009 14:11:02 VeeJay wrote:

 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)

From man 7 tuning:
 The kern.maxfiles sysctl determines how many open files the system sup-
 ports.  The default is typically a few thousand but you may need to bump
 this up to ten or twenty thousand if you are running databases or large
 descriptor-heavy daemons.   The read-only kern.openfiles sysctl may be
 interrogated to determine the current number of open files on the system.

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kern.maxfiles limit exceeded... what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread Jason Garrett
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 07:41, Wojciech Puchar 
woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote:

 increase kern.maxfiles :)

 in sysctl.conf


Pretty sure he got his answer over on @hackers. The need to cross post never
ceases to amaze me.



 On Tue, 14 Apr 2009, VeeJay wrote:

  Hi there

 I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this
 problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to
 increase the limit and avoid this error?

 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25022] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 Apr 14 11:08:08 server2 postfix/pickup[25023] : fatal : kqueue : Too many
 files open in the system
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)
 kern.maxfiles limit exceeded by uid 1003, please see tuning(7)

 Then I am unable to login on the server by consol or ssh. what to do?
 --
 Thanks!

 BR / vj

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Re: kern.maxfiles limit exceeded... what to do?

2009-04-14 Thread Eitan Adler
VeeJay wrote:
 Hi there
 
 I am keep getting this error on the screen. I have tried to solve this
 problem by myself but still no luck. Could anyone guide what to do to
 increase the limit and avoid this error?

please see tuning(7)




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What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ?

2009-04-07 Thread Juri Mianovich

Just trying to install rrdtool on a server.

Do not want X.  Do not want X11.  Do not want Xorg.

So I did the right thing and added this to /etc/make.conf:

WITHOUT_X11=yes
WITHOUT_X=yes
WITH_X=NO
ENABLE_GUI=NO

and then 'make install' in the rrdtool directory.  The problem is, eventually I 
saw this:

===  Installing for pango-1.14.7
===   pango-1.14.7 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf - 
not found
===Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf in 
/usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
===  Extracting for xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0
= MD5 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz.
= SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz.
===  Refetch for 1 more times files: xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz 
xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz
===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
= X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg.
= Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/x.org/pub/X11R6.9.0/src/.
X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz   3% of   31 MB 8188  Bps 01h05m^C
fetch: transfer interrupted



Oops.  Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway.

So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to install a 
simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of MB of x11 ?

Thanks.


  

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Re: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ?

2009-04-07 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Juri Mianovich wrote:
 Just trying to install rrdtool on a server.

 Do not want X.  Do not want X11.  Do not want Xorg.

 So I did the right thing and added this to /etc/make.conf:

 WITHOUT_X11=yes
 WITHOUT_X=yes
 WITH_X=NO
 ENABLE_GUI=NO

 and then 'make install' in the rrdtool directory.  The problem is, eventually 
 I saw this:

 ===  Installing for pango-1.14.7
 ===   pango-1.14.7 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf 
 - not found
 ===Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf in 
 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 ===  Extracting for xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0
 = MD5 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz.
 = SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz.
 ===  Refetch for 1 more times files: xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz 
 xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 = X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg.
 = Attempting to fetch from 
 ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/x.org/pub/X11R6.9.0/src/.
 X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz   3% of   31 MB 8188  Bps 
 01h05m^C
 fetch: transfer interrupted



 Oops.  Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway.

 So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to install a 
 simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of MB of x11 ?

 Thanks.
   

I don't think your '=NO' stuff would do much.

You may also wish to add

WITHOUT_GUI=yes
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What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ?

2009-04-07 Thread Robert Huff

Juri Mianovich writes:

  Just trying to install rrdtool on a server.
  
  Do not want X.  Do not want X11.  Do not want Xorg.
  
  
  ===  Installing for pango-1.14.7

If it requires pango, I think you're hosed.  I don't think it's
possible to build pango without X, if only for various .h files.
(And given what pango does, it wouldn't make much sense to.)


Robert Huff


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Re: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ?

2009-04-07 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Apr 07), Juri Mianovich said:
 Just trying to install rrdtool on a server.
 
 Do not want X.  Do not want X11.  Do not want Xorg.
 
 So I did the right thing and added this to /etc/make.conf:
 
 WITHOUT_X11=yes
 WITHOUT_X=yes
 WITH_X=NO
 ENABLE_GUI=NO
 
 and then 'make install' in the rrdtool directory.  The problem is, eventually 
 I saw this:
 
 ===  Installing for pango-1.14.7
 ===   pango-1.14.7 depends on file: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf 
 - not found
 ===Verifying install for /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF/luximb.ttf in 
 /usr/ports/x11-fonts/xorg-fonts-truetype
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 ===  Extracting for xorg-fonts-truetype-6.9.0
 = MD5 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz.
 = SHA256 Checksum mismatch for xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz.
 ===  Refetch for 1 more times files: xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz 
 xorg/X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz
 ===  Vulnerability check disabled, database not found
 = X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/xorg.
 = Attempting to fetch from 
 ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/x11/x.org/pub/X11R6.9.0/src/.
 X11R6.9.0-src1.tar.gz   3% of   31 MB 8188  Bps 
 01h05m^C
 fetch: transfer interrupted
 
 Oops.  Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway.
 
 So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to install a
 simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of MB of x11 ?

Note that it's only downloading that file to install the fonts that are
included in it.  It's not going to install all of X.  You might be able to
comment out the RUN_DEPENDS entries in the pango Makefile to avoid
installing any fonts, but your rrdtool graphs will look boring with no 
text :)

-- 
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dnel...@allantgroup.com
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Re: What ELSE do I need to add to make.conf to avoid X ?

2009-04-07 Thread Roland Smith
On Tue, Apr 07, 2009 at 07:40:53AM -0700, Juri Mianovich wrote:
 
 Just trying to install rrdtool on a server.
 
 Do not want X.  Do not want X11.  Do not want Xorg.
snip
 Oops.  Looks like I was going to get X11 anyway.
 
 So, what other options do I need to add to make.conf in order to
 install a simple stats/database tool without hundreds and hundreds of
 MB of x11 ?

You should pick a tool that doesn't depend on X
components. From databases/rrdtool/Makefile:  

LIB_DEPENDS=freetype.9:${PORTSDIR}/print/freetype2 \
cairo.2:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/cairo \
png.5:${PORTSDIR}/graphics/png \
xml2.5:${PORTSDIR}/textproc/libxml2 \
pangocairo-1\.0.0:${PORTSDIR}/x11-toolkits/pango

and

USE_GNOME=  gnomehack

The cairo library depends on an Xorg component called xrender, unless
you build it with the WITHOUT_X11 variable defined, which is not the
default. See /usr/ports/graphics/cairo/Makefile.

Pango depends on some X components as well, unless compiled with the
WITHOUT_X11 variable defined. See /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/pango/Makefile.

So if you _really_ want no X related stuff at all, you'd better pick
something else, because cairo and pango are linked with several X
components. Check the required items for rrdtool on freshports
[http://www.freshports.org/databases/rrdtool/], and then follow the
links to the packages it depends on, and look at their
dependancies. You'll see a host of X related stuff. Maybe using
WITHOUT_X11=yes is sufficient to stop these dependencies, but I doubt if
that is a situation that has been well tested.

Roland
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Re: if_bridge - what i do wrong

2008-04-11 Thread Wojciech Puchar

exactly this! thank you very much!


On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Mario Lobo wrote:


On Thursday 10 April 2008 10:02:55 Wojciech Puchar wrote:

ifconfig: BRDGADD tap0: Invalid argument


I had this problem once because my kernel was out of sync with userland.
When I recompiled world, the problem went away.

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Re: if_bridge - what i do wrong

2008-04-11 Thread Mario Lobo
On Friday 11 April 2008 05:36:16 Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 exactly this! thank you very much!

 On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Mario Lobo wrote:
  On Thursday 10 April 2008 10:02:55 Wojciech Puchar wrote:
  ifconfig: BRDGADD tap0: Invalid argument
 
  I had this problem once because my kernel was out of sync with userland.
  When I recompiled world, the problem went away.
 
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Your welcome ! I am happy I could be of help. Everyone is so keen and quick on 
this list that everytime I try to give some helpful info, someone always does 
it ahead of me.

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if_bridge - what i do wrong

2008-04-10 Thread Wojciech Puchar


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig bridge0 addm tap0
ifconfig: BRDGADD tap0: Invalid argument
^

why?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig bridge0
bridge0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet6 2001:::::1 prefixlen 64
inet 10.255.245.1 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.255.245.255
ether 5a:81:5a:a6:e6:38
priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ifconfig tap0
tap0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::2bd:2cff:fe1d:0%tap0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3
ether 00:bd:2c:1d:00:00


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Re: if_bridge - what i do wrong

2008-04-10 Thread Mario Lobo
On Thursday 10 April 2008 10:02:55 Wojciech Puchar wrote:
 ifconfig: BRDGADD tap0: Invalid argument

I had this problem once because my kernel was out of sync with userland.
When I recompiled world, the problem went away.

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What exactly do I have to do to get background fsck?

2008-02-29 Thread Martin Cracauer
My Thinkpad got instable, and I haven't figured out yet whether it's
hardware, FreeBSD's RELENG_6 kernel or X11/DRI.  Anyway...

I always go through a foreground fsck, no matter whether the thing
paniced or had a powercycle, or how long it has been up.  I have
softupdates activated but I must be missing something.

I badly need background fsck.  We are talking a 1.3 GHz, a 5400 rpm
P-ATA notebook harddrive with a 150 GB filesystem here :-/

Martin
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Re: What exactly do I have to do to get background fsck?

2008-02-29 Thread RW
On Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:45:08 -0500
Martin Cracauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My Thinkpad got instable, and I haven't figured out yet whether it's
 hardware, FreeBSD's RELENG_6 kernel or X11/DRI.  Anyway...
 
 I always go through a foreground fsck, no matter whether the thing
 paniced or had a powercycle, or how long it has been up.  I have
 softupdates activated but I must be missing something.
 
 I badly need background fsck.  We are talking a 1.3 GHz, a 5400 rpm
 P-ATA notebook harddrive with a 150 GB filesystem here :-/

It's the default for all partitions with soft-updates enabled.
sysinstall defaults to enabling soft-updates on all except the root
partition, so if you created one big partition you need to use tunefs to
enable soft-updates.
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Dreaded '__mb_sb_limit' Error And What To Do About It

2007-11-25 Thread Tim Daneliuk

On one of my FBSD 6-STABLE machines, I have the system cvsup the latest
sources nightly and rebuild (but not install) the system and all
relevant kernels.   Every week or so, I go to single user and
install what was last built (assuming the build worked OK).

My last such venture was on 11-20-2007 without problems.

Tonight, I tried to do this again, and immediately got hit with
the libexec '_mb_sb_limit' symbol missing problem.  I fell back
to the 11-20-2007 system image, and all is once again well.

So, here's my question.  Is this a temporary problem that will be
resolved at some point before 6.3 is released, or do I have have to
rebuild the entire system applications set to get new binaries that
don't depend on this symbol?  Also, if it is going to be fixed, how
will I know it has been before trying another update like this again?

TIA,

P.S. Rebuilding the apps on this system would be a REAL pain.  Here's
hoping the fine FBSD developers can find it within themselves to
make this symbol once again appear so old binaries will run unchanged.
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Re: Dreaded '__mb_sb_limit' Error And What To Do About It

2007-11-25 Thread Kris Kennaway

Tim Daneliuk wrote:

On one of my FBSD 6-STABLE machines, I have the system cvsup the latest
sources nightly and rebuild (but not install) the system and all
relevant kernels.   Every week or so, I go to single user and
install what was last built (assuming the build worked OK).

My last such venture was on 11-20-2007 without problems.

Tonight, I tried to do this again, and immediately got hit with
the libexec '_mb_sb_limit' symbol missing problem.  I fell back
to the 11-20-2007 system image, and all is once again well.

So, here's my question.  Is this a temporary problem that will be
resolved at some point before 6.3 is released, or do I have have to
rebuild the entire system applications set to get new binaries that
don't depend on this symbol?  Also, if it is going to be fixed, how
will I know it has been before trying another update like this again?


See discussion on freebsd-stable

Kris



TIA,

P.S. Rebuilding the apps on this system would be a REAL pain.  Here's
hoping the fine FBSD developers can find it within themselves to
make this symbol once again appear so old binaries will run unchanged.


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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-31 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Jeff D wrote:
 
 I've swapped in an Ubuntu disk, and I can say that Apache 2.2.4  BerkeleyDB
 4.6.19 install just fine on Ubuntu right out of the box.

There are security advisories against Apache 2.2.4.  You should be using 2.2.6
instead. See: 

   http://httpd.apache.org/security/vulnerabilities_22.html

The ports system had the security fixes for Apache22 in place on the 9th
September, only two days after apache-2.2.6 was released by the Apache
foundation.

Now, there isn't a compelling reason to use any particular version of BDB
over any other with apache -- it simply doesn't need any of the new
transactional capabilities or anything like that.  Hence the way the
updates have been prioritized.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-31 Thread Gerard
On October 29, 2007 at 05:22PM Jeff D wrote:


 I've decided to try to build up my 1st FreeBSD server.
 
 Reading the Handbook is mostly helpful, but I' getting hit with a couple of
 problems I can't figure out.
 
 I was looking for a beginner's list.  I think this is the closest to it.
 
 The main reason I'm trying out FreeBSD is because I want to set up my own
 web server, and the Ports seemed liked a way to do it that manages conflicts
  dependencies better even that Linux systems.  Not being much of a program
 guy, that sounds good to me!
 
 When I try to install the Apache port in /usr/ports/www/apache22, it errors
 out with
 
 IGNORED
 Unknown Berkeley DB version
 
 After checking on the Oracle site, I made sure to install the latest, most
 up to date /usr/ports/databases/db46 port.  It seems to have worked and I
 can use it in other ports.
 
 I'm not sure where to turn next.
 
 Anybody got some advice to share?

I had a similar problem. I used the following knobs:

WITH_DBM=bdb
WITH_BERKELEYDB=db44

I installed the latest version of of DB, version db46 and changed the know
accordingly, When I attempted to reinstall the port, I received the same
message you are receiving. It appears that the port will not accept the db46
version. I read the ports Makefile, and version db46 is not listed. I did
contact the port maintainer regarding this; however, I never received a reply.
I am thinking of filing a PR.

In any case, I went back to using the older version, db44,  without any 
problems.

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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-31 Thread Jeff D
Fyi, there's  already an open PR,

  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/116637

referenced in the thread here,

  
http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.freebsd.questions/browse_thread/thread/5a9fe987a2905b20/110361efd66ba40a?lnk=raot

Regards,

Jeff
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Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Jeff D
I've decided to try to build up my 1st FreeBSD server.

Reading the Handbook is mostly helpful, but I' getting hit with a couple of
problems I can't figure out.

I was looking for a beginner's list.  I think this is the closest to it.

The main reason I'm trying out FreeBSD is because I want to set up my own
web server, and the Ports seemed liked a way to do it that manages conflicts
 dependencies better even that Linux systems.  Not being much of a program
guy, that sounds good to me!

When I try to install the Apache port in /usr/ports/www/apache22, it errors
out with

IGNORED
Unknown Berkeley DB version

After checking on the Oracle site, I made sure to install the latest, most
up to date /usr/ports/databases/db46 port.  It seems to have worked and I
can use it in other ports.

I'm not sure where to turn next.

Anybody got some advice to share?

Regards,

  Jeff
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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

there should be a file under

/usr/ports/

called UPGRADING

It contains some hints of changes.

Jeff D wrote:


IGNORED
Unknown Berkeley DB version


Can you configure Apache to use other database systems?

Erich
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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Jeff D wrote:
 
 When I try to install the Apache port in /usr/ports/www/apache22, it errors
 out with
 
 IGNORED
 Unknown Berkeley DB version

This is a known problem with the apache22 port.  At the moment it only
understands about Berkeley DB versions up to 4.4.x -- there's an open
ticket in the PR system which requests support for versions up to 4.6.x:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/116637

Until that gets fixed, use BDB 4.4.x instead.  To make that the default
version on your system add this to /etc/make.conf:

  WITH_BDB_VER=   44

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Jeff D
Matthew,

On 10/30/07, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This is a known problem with the apache22 port.  At the moment it only
 understands about Berkeley DB versions up to 4.4.x -- there's an open
 ticket in the PR system which requests support for versions up to 4.6.x:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/116637

 Until that gets fixed, use BDB 4.4.x instead.  To make that the default
 version on your system add this to /etc/make.conf:

   WITH_BDB_VER=   44


Thanks for pointing this out.

I'd thought that the port system in Freebsd was assured to be internally
consistent with all other stuff in the system by a central team (QA?).  I
didn't realize that each port was from a different person, and that the
process could get held up for weeks or months.

I guess your advice is what I should do.  I'm a little nervous about undoing
what's already been done, and think I might just start over with db44 to be
safe.

Knowing this now, I guess I should also make a list of the programs and
versions I need, and check each  every one for problems before I start
again.  If something popular like the Apache Web Server has long standing
unresolved issues like this, other programs may too.

A friend is pushing me to use Ubunutu Linux instead, saying that stuff like
this doesn't happen with it, but I'm not so convinced.  After being  'sold'
on the Freebsd ports, it's worth some more reading.

Thanks.

Regards,

  Jeff
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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread james

On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 15:54 -0700, Jeff D wrote:
 I've decided to try to build up my 1st FreeBSD server.
 
 Reading the Handbook is mostly helpful, but I' getting hit with a couple of
 problems I can't figure out.
 
 I was looking for a beginner's list.  I think this is the closest to it.
 
 The main reason I'm trying out FreeBSD is because I want to set up my own
 web server, and the Ports seemed liked a way to do it that manages conflicts
  dependencies better even that Linux systems.  Not being much of a program
 guy, that sounds good to me!
 
 When I try to install the Apache port in /usr/ports/www/apache22, it errors
 out with
 
 IGNORED
 Unknown Berkeley DB version
 
 After checking on the Oracle site, I made sure to install the latest, most
 up to date /usr/ports/databases/db46 port.  It seems to have worked and I
 can use it in other ports.
 
 I'm not sure where to turn next.
 
 Anybody got some advice to share?

What version of the operating system are you using?
When did you last update your ports tree?

These're both important for us to know.

But, you should know that apache on FreeBSD is fantastic. I tried
getting it configured once on Ubuntu; that was a harsh, harsh
experience. Weird custom configuration files in weird locations.

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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Jeff D
James,

On 10/30/07, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What version of the operating system are you using?


I'm using the Version 6.2 Release, updated with Patchset 7

When did you last update your ports tree?


Last time was yesterday afternoon.

These're both important for us to know.


Sorry about that!

But, you should know that apache on FreeBSD is fantastic. I tried
 getting it configured once on Ubuntu; that was a harsh, harsh
 experience. Weird custom configuration files in weird locations.


What makes it fantastic versus not?  Isn't an Apache configuration
supposed to be the same?  In httpd.conf, or whatever?

Regards,

  Jeff
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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread james

On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 07:15 -0700, Jeff D wrote:
 James,
 
 On 10/30/07, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 What version of the operating system are you using?
 
 I'm using the Version 6.2 Release, updated with Patchset 7

 
 When did you last update your ports tree?
 
 Last time was yesterday afternoon. 

Okay, great. Have you also done a successful portupgrade since then? I
should have asked this earlier, but it's before nine and I'm not at my
best when tired ;)



 
 But, you should know that apache on FreeBSD is fantastic. I
 tried
 getting it configured once on Ubuntu; that was a harsh, harsh
 experience. Weird custom configuration files in weird
 locations.
 
 What makes it fantastic versus not?  Isn't an Apache configuration
 supposed to be the same?  In httpd.conf, or whatever?

I agree! However, some folks think that httpd.conf should be deprecated
in favour of apache2.conf. And then it gets weirder and weirder...

apache on FreeBSD is installed consistently (i.e. you know where to look
for files based upon sensible reasoning), and it follows exactly the
conventions you expect it to follow, with httpd.conf etc.

The only weirdness to be aware of is that the handbook covers apache
1.3, not 2.x.


James

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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Jeff D
James,

On 10/30/07, james [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Okay, great. Have you also done a successful portupgrade since then? I
 should have asked this earlier, but it's before nine and I'm not at my
 best when tired ;)


Before I got re-started, now I have.  Other than the complaint about
Apache22 not finding db46, all seemed to go ok.

apache on FreeBSD is installed consistently (i.e. you know where to look
 for files based upon sensible reasoning), and it follows exactly the
 conventions you expect it to follow, with httpd.conf etc.

 The only weirdness to be aware of is that the handbook covers apache
 1.3, not 2.x.


I'll keep this in mind, and eventually investigate.

But for now I can't exactly agree OR disagree, since Apache22 simply doesn't
install on Freebsd because of this out of date Port.

I've just been told that there's some sort of a Port version freeze in place
in preparation for the version 7 release (?), which will delay any update to
that Apache22 port even longer.

I've swapped in an Ubuntu disk, and I can say that Apache 2.2.4  BerkeleyDB
4.6.19 install just fine on Ubuntu right out of the box.  I'm not sure which
way to go now.  Being a big believer in a bird in the hand ..., I'm
leaning towards Ubuntu instead, beacuse it works now.  But, I'll Google some
more for objective comparisons to be sure.

Regards,

  Jeff
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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Matthew Seaman
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Jeff D wrote:
 Matthew,
 
 On 10/30/07, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 This is a known problem with the apache22 port.  At the moment it only
 understands about Berkeley DB versions up to 4.4.x -- there's an open
 ticket in the PR system which requests support for versions up to 4.6.x:
 http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/116637

 Until that gets fixed, use BDB 4.4.x instead.  To make that the default
 version on your system add this to /etc/make.conf:

   WITH_BDB_VER=   44
 
 
 Thanks for pointing this out.
 
 I'd thought that the port system in Freebsd was assured to be internally
 consistent with all other stuff in the system by a central team (QA?).  I
 didn't realize that each port was from a different person, and that the
 process could get held up for weeks or months.

Correct: there is a continual process of testing and compilation of ports
for all supported OS versions and architectures.  You can see the results
here:

   http://pointyhat.freebsd.org/errorlogs/

and there's also

   http://portsmon.freebsd.org/index.html

which summarises all of the known issues within the ports tree.

However, due to resource limitations it's only ever the *default* set of
options that are used when test-compiling any port.  At the moment, the
ports system uses databases/db41 (db41-4.1.25_4) as the default version
of Berkeley DB -- you can find that out by reading
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.database.mk

As to why db41 is still considered the default -- probably because no one
has requested it be updated and there isn't a specific maintainer to take
care of bsd.database.mk.  In any case, changes to the ports infrastructure
like that will require a test package build run before being committed, and
that's not a trivial undertaking.  There's a ports freeze coming up prior to
the release of FreeBSD 6.3 and 7.0 so it's exceedingly unlikely to be changed
in the next month or two.

 I guess your advice is what I should do.  I'm a little nervous about undoing
 what's already been done, and think I might just start over with db44 to be
 safe.

Fear not.  You can install several BDB ports for different versions of BDB
simultaneously.  No need to rip out any ports you've previously compiled
against bdb46 and rebuild them.  You can make just apache depend on bdb44 by
a snippet like the following in /etc/make.conf:

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/www/apache22}
WITH_DBM=   bdb
WITH_BERKELEYDB=db44
.endif

That's assuming you want to install apache-2.2.6 -- there are several other
versions of apache in the tree, and you can use much the same sort of construct,
just changing the 'www/apache22' bit, to apply options to those ports.

See also the ports-mgmt/portconf port for a possibly more user friendly way of
doing this sort of thing.

 Knowing this now, I guess I should also make a list of the programs and
 versions I need, and check each  every one for problems before I start
 again.  If something popular like the Apache Web Server has long standing
 unresolved issues like this, other programs may too.

I usually find that so long as I've accounted for anything from
/usr/ports/UPDATING, then just trying to install or upgrade the port is
successful 99 times out of 100. Only on the 100th time is it necessary to go
hunting around in bug databases and so forth.

The ports tree contains over 17,000 individual ports, maintained by a wide
variety of volunteers or (in perhaps too many cases) without any particular 
person
or group of people to maintain them at all.  Despite this, over all the quality
and consistency of ports is generally good.  There will be occasional problems
- -- and when these are reported, usually they are fixed with a great deal of
dispatch.

 A friend is pushing me to use Ubunutu Linux instead, saying that stuff like
 this doesn't happen with it, but I'm not so convinced.  After being  'sold'
 on the Freebsd ports, it's worth some more reading.

You friend is living in a dream world, I'm afraid.  It is practically
impossible to have zero problems in any large collection of software packages or
ports like this.  Ubuntu has it's points and a lot of people find it suits them
very well, but to my mind it is best fitted to being a point'n'click style 
desktop
for Windows refugees.  FreeBSD (IMHO) is unbeaten as a serious Unix server 
platform,
but to get the best out of it, you should not be afraid of getting to grips
with command line interfaces.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Roland Smith
On Mon, Oct 29, 2007 at 02:22:24PM -0700, Jeff D wrote:
 I've decided to try to build up my 1st FreeBSD server.
 
 Reading the Handbook is mostly helpful, but I' getting hit with a couple of
 problems I can't figure out.
 
 I was looking for a beginner's list.  I think this is the closest to it.
 
 The main reason I'm trying out FreeBSD is because I want to set up my own
 web server, and the Ports seemed liked a way to do it that manages conflicts
  dependencies better even that Linux systems.  Not being much of a program
 guy, that sounds good to me!
 
 When I try to install the Apache port in /usr/ports/www/apache22, it errors
 out with
 
 IGNORED
 Unknown Berkeley DB version

It builds fine on my machine (7.0-BETA1, amd64).

Which version of FreeBSD are you running? 
Did you update your ports tree before building apache? (run 'portsnap
fetch extract' once. Later use 'portsnap fetch update' to keep the tree
up-to-date.)
Did you set or unset any options?

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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread James
On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 06:42 -0700, Jeff D wrote:

 Matthew,
 
 On 10/30/07, Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  This is a known problem with the apache22 port.  At the moment it only
  understands about Berkeley DB versions up to 4.4.x -- there's an open
  ticket in the PR system which requests support for versions up to 4.6.x:
  http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/116637
 
  Until that gets fixed, use BDB 4.4.x instead.  To make that the default
  version on your system add this to /etc/make.conf:
 
WITH_BDB_VER=   44
 
 
 Thanks for pointing this out.
 
 I'd thought that the port system in Freebsd was assured to be internally
 consistent with all other stuff in the system by a central team (QA?).  I
 didn't realize that each port was from a different person, and that the
 process could get held up for weeks or months.
 
 I guess your advice is what I should do.  I'm a little nervous about undoing
 what's already been done, and think I might just start over with db44 to be
 safe.
 
 Knowing this now, I guess I should also make a list of the programs and
 versions I need, and check each  every one for problems before I start
 again.  If something popular like the Apache Web Server has long standing
 unresolved issues like this, other programs may too.
 
 A friend is pushing me to use Ubunutu Linux instead, saying that stuff like
 this doesn't happen with it, but I'm not so convinced.  After being  'sold'
 on the Freebsd ports, it's worth some more reading.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Regards,
 
   Jeff

All OSes have their good and bad points. Sometimes, even the mighty
ubuntu pushes out broken updates (such as the one a version or two back
that broke a significant percentage's X-configuration). And ubuntu has a
bug tracker for a reason, not just for kicks.

Just like FreeBSD.

If you want a smoother sailing way of going forwards, try installing the
older version of apache that's available in ports. Its install is the
one that's handbook documented. If you decide to go with ubuntu, I hope
it goes well for you. They have a friendly community that can help most
problems.


James
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Re: Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-30 Thread Jeff D
James,

On 10/30/07, James [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 All OSes have their good and bad points. Sometimes, even the mighty ubuntu
 pushes out broken updates (such as the one a version or two back that broke
 a significant percentage's X-configuration). And ubuntu has a bug tracker
 for a reason, not just for kicks.

 Just like FreeBSD.

 If you want a smoother sailing way of going forwards, try installing the
 older version of apache that's available in ports. Its install is the one
 that's handbook documented. If you decide to go with ubuntu, I hope it goes
 well for you. They have a friendly community that can help most problems.



Thanks for the 'points'.

I certainly get the fact that all OSes have bugs.  That's not my concern.

What's a bit confounding is why/how the process allows two very mainstream
 released/stable versions of programs (Apache 22  Berkeley DB 46) to not
play nice together for so long.  ( Reading the PR reference from above, it's
been at least a solid month, if not longer ...).  It's not liike my
expectation was to get anything but the most popular, widely used, programs
set up.

To a Newby, it seems like a guessing game as to what works and what
doesn't.  Frustrating, if only after an extended 'sales job' on how the
ports system makes such problems go away got me here in the 1st place.

And, yes the Ubuntu crowd has been very responsive -- and I do have a fully
functional server with up to date program version up and running (mostly)
without any of problems of out of date Ports not being dealt with.

That said, I've stumbled on the PF firewall.  After the headache I was
getting trying to learn  configure IPTables, it's seemingly straightforward
to use.  And, if I read correctly, NOT available in the Linux world, only on
OpenBSD  FreeBSD.

So, I've some choices to make.  The PR author replied to an email I sent,
and has given me some options to workaround the out of date Apache22 port
instead of downgrading to an earlier/older version of Berkeley DB.  But
that's starting to get me into a system that isn't managed by a
port-management system.  Which is what I was hoping to avoid in the first
place.

All of this would cease to be a problem for me if that port were simply
updated.  But, that seems unlikely anytime soon without some intervention by
someone with the right knowledge  clout.  That's certainly not me.

Regards,

  Jeff
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Newby Question: What to do when one port can't recognize another port?

2007-10-29 Thread Jeff D
I've decided to try to build up my 1st FreeBSD server.

Reading the Handbook is mostly helpful, but I' getting hit with a couple of
problems I can't figure out.

I was looking for a beginner's list.  I think this is the closest to it.

The main reason I'm trying out FreeBSD is because I want to set up my own
web server, and the Ports seemed liked a way to do it that manages conflicts
 dependencies better even that Linux systems.  Not being much of a program
guy, that sounds good to me!

When I try to install the Apache port in /usr/ports/www/apache22, it errors
out with

IGNORED
Unknown Berkeley DB version

After checking on the Oracle site, I made sure to install the latest, most
up to date /usr/ports/databases/db46 port.  It seems to have worked and I
can use it in other ports.

I'm not sure where to turn next.

Anybody got some advice to share?

Regards,

  Jeff
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what to do with this..?

2007-08-08 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
Hi,
   i have a serial files named as 1.zip, 2.z01, 3.z02, etc. what to do with
this? I tried unzip but have trouble, thansk!!

TFC
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Re: what to do with this..?

2007-08-08 Thread Ian Smith
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 07:35:42 -0400 Tsu-Fan Cheng [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i have a serial files named as 1.zip, 2.z01, 3.z02, etc. what to do with
  this? I tried unzip but have trouble, thansk!!

assuming that you have installed port or package archivers/unzip ..

You can 'unzip 1' for 1.zip, but need to 'unzip 2.z01' and so on; that
is, you need to specify the full filename unless it ends in '.zip', but
unzip will work on any valid zipfile whatever it's called.  See unzip(1)

Try running 'unzip -l 2.z01' and if it lists properly, 'unzip -t 2.z01'
to test the archive contents, before unzipping for real.

If that doesn't help, quote us exactly what you try, and the response.

Cheers, Ian

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Re: what to do with this..?

2007-08-08 Thread Tsu-Fan Cheng
On 8/8/07, Rolf G Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tsu-Fan Cheng wrote:
  Hi,
 i have a serial files named as 1.zip, 2.z01, 3.z02, etc. what to do
 with
  this? I tried unzip but have trouble, thansk!!
 
  TFC
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 If they're parts of the same archive, that's been split, just cat them
 together:

 cat *.z??  archive.zip

 (to get the files in correct order, you might need to specify every file
 instead, depending on how they're named).

 Then run

 zip -F archive.zip

 This should give you a fully compliant zip file, that you can unzip.

 --

 Sincerly,

 Rolf Nielsen




right on, I cat files from *.z01, *.z02.. *.zip into one archive, then unzip
it, it works!! thanks!!

TFC
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Re: what to do with this..?

2007-08-08 Thread Wojciech Puchar


You can 'unzip 1' for 1.zip, but need to 'unzip 2.z01' and so on; that
is, you need to specify the full filename unless it ends in '.zip', but
unzip will work on any valid zipfile whatever it's called.  See unzip(1)

Try running 'unzip -l 2.z01' and if it lists properly, 'unzip -t 2.z01'
to test the archive contents, before unzipping for real.

If that doesn't help, quote us exactly what you try, and the response.


possibly it's simply splited files so cat ?.z* onefile.zip and then 
unzipping?




Cheers, Ian

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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-15 Thread Wesley Morgan

On Tue, 14 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:


What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a
bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could
well be wrong...)

Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops
fully working ?


I'm a huge Toshiba fan, and a HUGE fan of the touchpoint/accupoint 
devices. As of yesterday I replaced my Satellite Pro 6000 with a new 
M5-S433. Speaking for -current, not -stable, it boots fine, detects the 
gig ethernet with the em driver, serial port, usb, touchpad (bleh!), etc 
work fine. The ATA driver is identified as a GENERIC ATA controller and 
the drive is listed as UDMA33, which is either incorrect (the drive is 
SATA, I've removed it) or it's just using a SATA-PATA bridge internally. 
X11 starts up with the nv driver just fine, right now it's humming away 
beside me installing KDE. The only things that do not work are the builtin 
wireless, which should have a driver soon, and the sound, which I hope 
will also have some support soon!


I have had a couple of quirks -- several times it has booted up but the 
ATA driver never saw the HD, but a reboot later it was finding it just 
fine. I also had trouble getting it to attach to an atheros card I was 
inserting, but I think that was related to the BIOS setting for device 
resource allocation rather than a kernel problem. Once i've had it a 
little longer I'll drop in on the -multimedia list and see if I can spur a 
little work on the sound. Everything else seems in order.



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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-15 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST)
Wesley Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Everything else seems in order.

Thanks for the info Wesley. What about ACPI?

btw, what resolution are u running X at? what fps does glxgears report?

cheers,
Beto
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-15 Thread Wesley Morgan

On Thu, 16 Mar 2006, Norberto Meijome wrote:


On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:36:43 -0500 (EST)
Wesley Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Everything else seems in order.


Thanks for the info Wesley. What about ACPI?

btw, what resolution are u running X at? what fps does glxgears report?


I haven't tried any sleep states yet. X runs at the native 1024x768 and 
glxgears runs at about 760-790 FPS when one of the two cores is occupied 
with something else and 815 when both are idle.


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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-14 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:01:04 +1100
David Dean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 mm, well I run a Dell 700m .. the widescreen 12 one with built-in
 wireless.
thx for your time :)

B
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-14 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500
 From: Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...
 
  On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
   WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
   
   ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
   PATA / SATA with no problems
 
 I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).

From my T43:
atapci0: Intel ICH6 SATA150 controller port 
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on pci0
Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA chip for
the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a docking station.

 
   all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
   touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Thinkpad T42 is great in that regard, except that the use of dri w/
 suspend/resume causes lockup.  You would need to pick either dri or
 suspend/resume.
 
 If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
 you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
 I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
 (net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
 router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
 every two hours (when i start getting TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt
 message.

iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the
past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two
colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it locks
up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get it back,
so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also fairly new
firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems.

   Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 Can't say about Thinkpad on that.

I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure
other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route, but
I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system!

   From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
   do DELLs
   (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
   Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
 Boy do those Toshiba's TruBrite screen looked amazing (in a chain
 store).  On almost all the displayed laptops, however, the keyboards
 are buggered up, mainly on the right side.  Keys were shifted around
 or had really unusual area of key caps.  What is amazing about the
 messed up keyboard layout is that there was much wasted space on
 the sides (owning to the wider screen)  in front of the keyboard.

FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH
brighter than my trusty T30.

  What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?
 
 People generally advise to get one from business line (used to be
 Latitude for some time in past; don't know about the
 present/future), not the home one (Inspiron).
 
 
  Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.
 
 T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.
 
 
  (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)
 
 Yes, some Dell Inspiron.

My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still not
robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is from her
as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display, though!

For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R
series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No
touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the T
series. 
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-14 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:31 -0800
Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:07:32 -0500
  From: Parv [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...
  
   On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to
work WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:

ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
PATA / SATA with no problems
  
  I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).
 
 From my T43:
 atapci0: Intel ICH6 SATA150 controller port
 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x18c0-0x18cf at device 31.2 on
 pci0 Since the drives are still PATA, I assume it uses a SATA/PATA
 chip for the internal drives, but it may make SATA available to a
 docking station.

yeah, the T60s (available now @ my provider! ) also come with SATA
drives.

  If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
  you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
  I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
  (net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
  router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
  every two hours (when i start getting TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt
  message.
 
 iwi (and its kin-folk) have been betting heavy work in HEAD over the
 past week or two and, hopefully, things will improve. OTOH, I have two
 colleagues using this card with Windows and they complain that it
 locks up periodically and they have to disable and enable it to get
 it back, so this may not be just a FreeBSD thing. There is also
 fairly new firmware out (V3.0) which MAY fix some of these problems.

I have a 2200BG on this tosh A2 - some lockups, but couldn't pinpoint
it to the card (again, i've made the habit of ifconfig down before
suspend...) . No problems at all while running. 

Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
  
  Can't say about Thinkpad on that.
 
 I think the only ThinkPads with Core Duo are T60s, although I'm sure
 other will follow. Don't know if Lenovo will ever go the AMD route,
 but I sure hope they do. My AMD desktop is one amazing system!

I know :) 

What about AMD64 (single or Dual core) cpus for laptops (Turin ? ) :
any good experiences there anyone?

From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
do DELLs
(though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.
  
  Boy do those Toshiba's TruBrite screen looked amazing (in a chain
  store). 

yeah, a colleague has a Tecra A5, bright as a CRT.

 
 FWIW, I have been amazed at the brightness of my T43. It is MUCH
 brighter than my trusty T30.
 
   What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?
  
  People generally advise to get one from business line (used to be
  Latitude for some time in past; don't know about the
  present/future), not the home one (Inspiron).
  
  
   Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.
  
  T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.
  
  
   (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)
  
  Yes, some Dell Inspiron.
 
 My wife has not been at all happy with her Latitude. Heavy and still
 not robust. Unpleasant keyboard and very touchy touchpad. (This is
 from her as I don't often use it.) I do love the 1600x1200 display,
 though!
 
 For less expensive (and less powerful) ThinkPads, look at the R
 series. No Core Duos there, but they start at about $800 new. No
 touchpads (which I consider a plus), but a bit clunky compared to the
 T series. 

yeah i'm running the features vs numbers job atm...

Actually thinking of looking into the components of ASUS laptops, as
well as those from pioneercomputers.com.au - have heard of some great
experiences with those laptops with Linux.

BTW, thanks everyone for your help :) will keep asking questions as
needed, of course ;)

Beto
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What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread freebsd
hi everyone,
I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:

ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
PATA / SATA with no problems
all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course

Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.

From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs
(though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
but I don't think they are so well supported.

Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)

Best regards,
Beto

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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread andy


On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:

 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course

 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.

 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.

 Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)

 Best regards,
 Beto

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I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
I've a related question, but my primary constraints are physical. I'm looking
for a lightweight and low-profile package, like the fabulous (and wicked prone
to hard failure) Sony 505 series of products.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Erich Dollansky

Hi,

Eric Brunner-Williams wrote:

I've a related question, but my primary constraints are physical. I'm looking
for a lightweight and low-profile package, like the fabulous (and wicked prone
to hard failure) Sony 505 series of products.


take a look at the P-series from Fujitsu.

I ran FreeBSD on a P2120. It was pretty good with the exception of 
battery life. The new P7xxx series used the Pentium M as a CPU which is 
better supported by FreeBSD.


Erich
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Marcin Jessa
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do
 DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
 Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)

I've Thinkpad R50e. Everything works fine and it makes an excellent
work tool :
http://www.yazzy.org/configs/freebsd/thinkpad/

Price of those thinkpads is yet another pluss.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Bill Schoolcraft
At Mon, 13 Mar 2006 it looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED] composed:

 I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly.

Do you have the wireless working too on that model, the integrated
chip?

TIA
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.

I have a new Lenovo (IBM) T43 (266875U) that is working well.

If you get an integrated A/B/G card, it's Athros based and works very
well with FreeBSD and the wpa_supplicant.  The internal Winmodem is
useless, though. The GE is a Broadcom which works well. Graphics is an
ATI Radeon, so you will want to have Radeontool to turn it off.

ACPI has no problems and, if you load acpi_ibm, it provides lots of
features. Sound is snd_ich and works fine. I disable the touchpad, so I
really can't say much about it. If the touchpad is disabled, it has a 3
button mouse.

I have not been successful with a suspend/resume cycle while running
X. It seems to suspend, but never resumes when in X. If I'm on a vty, it
does resume, but the display characters are garbage.  vidcontrol mode
80x25 fixes it, though. I can probably stick this into rc.resume.

It's only a 2GHz Pentium-M, though. The new T60s are Core Duo systems,
but we don't have one, yet. One was just ordered last week, so I hope to
get to play with one soon.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:58:29 -0800
Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have not been successful with a suspend/resume cycle while running
 X. It seems to suspend, but never resumes when in X. If I'm on a vty,
 it does resume, but the display characters are garbage.  vidcontrol
 mode 80x25 fixes it, though. I can probably stick this into
 rc.resume.

Thanks for the info. I had a similar issue with suspend/resume from
within X (using APM though), using my Toshiba Tecra A2.


hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1

fixed it. i get some garbling in some semitransparent aterm windows,
but nothing major at all.

Beto
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Norberto Meijome
On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi everyone,
 I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
 WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
 ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
 PATA / SATA with no problems
 all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
 touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
 Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
 From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do
 DELLs
 (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
 but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
 Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)
 
 Best regards,
 Beto

What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a
bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could
well be wrong...)

Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops
fully working ?


thx
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread hackmiester / Hunter Fuller
On Monday 13 March 2006 08:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  hi everyone,
  I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
  WELL with freeBSD?  any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I have an IBM Thinkpad R51, it works very well and I reccomend it highly.
I have this notebook as well. It is very nice and works with every OS I've 
ever tried (Linux Fedora, FreeBSD, BeOS...). I do believe, however, it's been 
replaced by the R52 model, but it has basically the same hardware.
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread David Dean
mm, well I run a Dell 700m .. the widescreen 12 one with built-in wireless.

I'm using the fantastic iwi-firmware (so yes, the wireless works), and
855patch to get 1280x800 (the native res of the lcd) working. I have a
very quick document on what I did to get that going at
http://bratdot.info/cub1cle/projects/700m/

Accelerated graphics have never worked, but I just run Konsoles and
Kmail .. so I dont miss it.

The winmodem doesnt work, but thats about it.

I havent missed anything else that didnt work 'out of the box' on 6. I
ran 5.4 on there for a while as well, and the only thing I had to add
was UHCI to the generic kernel (so I could do backups before the
heat-death of the universe).

YMMV, but they are cheap, small and light.

-David

On 3/14/06, Norberto Meijome [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  hi everyone,
  I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
  WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
 
  ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
  PATA / SATA with no problems
  all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
  touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course
 
  Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.
 
  From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so do
  DELLs
  (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get Toshiba,
  but I don't think they are so well supported.
 
  Thanks in advance for any advice you can share :)
 
  Best regards,
  Beto

 What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to? Thinkpads are a
 bit pricey for me atm. (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could
 well be wrong...)

 Alternatively, has anyone got a model of *new* Toshiba laptops
 fully working ?


 thx
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Re: What laptop do you recommend?

2006-03-13 Thread Parv
in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
wrote Norberto Meijome thusly...

 On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:40 -0300
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I'm looking for a new, gruntier laptop. What laptop is known to work
  WELL with freeBSD? e.g.:
  
  ACPI with no problems (and as many features as possible)
  PATA / SATA with no problems

I don't think Thinkpad has [SP]ATA things (yet).


  all other basic stuff (graphics, NIC, Wireless g, sound,
  touchpad ,etc ) should work too, of course

Thinkpad T42 is great in that regard, except that the use of dri w/
suspend/resume causes lockup.  You would need to pick either dri or
suspend/resume.

If you can, try to get a laptop either without a 802.11g (so that
you can decide which one to buy) or buy one supported by ath driver.
I have T42 w/ Intel 2200BG card, and it using w/ iwi driver
(net/iwi-firmware port).  Here, connected w/ Linksys WRT54G wireless
router/switch/AP, iwi interface|driver needs to be reset just about
every two hours (when i start getting TKIP ICV mismatch on decrypt
message.


  Looking into either Intel duo Core or AMD64 chips.

Can't say about Thinkpad on that.


  From what I've read, IBMs seem to have quite good support, so
  do DELLs
  (though they seem chunkier than other laptops). I usually get
  Toshiba, but I don't think they are so well supported.

Boy do those Toshiba's TruBrite screen looked amazing (in a chain
store).  On almost all the displayed laptops, however, the keyboards
are buggered up, mainly on the right side.  Keys were shifted around
or had really unusual area of key caps.  What is amazing about the
messed up keyboard layout is that there was much wasted space on
the sides (owning to the wider screen)  in front of the keyboard.


 What about DELL laptops? any model I should stick to?

People generally advise to get one from business line (used to be
Latitude for some time in past; don't know about the
present/future), not the home one (Inspiron).


 Thinkpads are a bit pricey for me atm.

T4[0-3]-generation should be affordable by now, around USD1[0-2]00.


 (Greg Lehey i think was using dells... could well be wrong...)

Yes, some Dell Inspiron.


  - Parv

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RE: Users unknown in jail, what to do?

2006-01-02 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
Hi Gabor,

I figured as much. A tip: install your base tools first, things like
freebsd-update, portupgrade, webmin, etc. configure those and then tar the
/path/to/jail directory. That will give you a nice clean system to fall back
on and replicate whenever you need a new jail, and save you a lot of time. 

Regards, 

Ruben 

-Original Message-
From: Kövesdán Gábor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: January 01, 2006 10:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Users unknown in jail, what to do?

Hello,

thanks. Actually, I just did a make installworld DESTDIR=/path/to/jail, 
I didn't follow the steps in jail(8) exactly and that was the problem. I 
should have done a make distribution DESTDIR=/path/to/jail from 
/usr/src/etc.

Thanks,

Gabor

Ruben Bloemgarten wrote:

Hi Gabor, 

Did you install the jail following the instructions of the man page ? Which
version of FBSD are you running ? Assuming that u are running the jail
command from root, you don't have to specify the user. 

Regards, 
Ruben 

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Subject: Users unknown in jail, what to do?

Hello,

I've set up a jail and started it with:

jail -u root /path/to/jail hostname ip /bin/sh

When I tried to install a port inside the jail I got an error message 
that I don't have the mtree files. I don't know why those files haven't 
been built but I copied it from the host system to the jail. Now I get:

mtree: line 6: unknown user root
*** Error code 1

I copied passwd, master.passwd, group, nsswitch.conf files, too, but I 
get the same. Could somebody tell me how can I solve this?

  




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Users unknown in jail, what to do?

2005-12-30 Thread Kövesdán Gábor

Hello,

I've set up a jail and started it with:

jail -u root /path/to/jail hostname ip /bin/sh

When I tried to install a port inside the jail I got an error message 
that I don't have the mtree files. I don't know why those files haven't 
been built but I copied it from the host system to the jail. Now I get:


mtree: line 6: unknown user root
*** Error code 1

I copied passwd, master.passwd, group, nsswitch.conf files, too, but I 
get the same. Could somebody tell me how can I solve this?


Thanks in advance,

Gabor Kovesdan
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Re: Users unknown in jail, what to do?

2005-12-30 Thread Matthew Seaman

Kövesdán Gábor wrote:

mtree: line 6: unknown user root
*** Error code 1

I copied passwd, master.passwd, group, nsswitch.conf files, too, but I 
get the same. Could somebody tell me how can I solve this?


Try:

  # pwd_mkdb /etc/master.passwd

in your jail.  That creates (amongst other things) the hashed .db files the
getpwent() etc. routines use.  Also look at

   # cap_mkdb login.conf

Cheers,

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RE: Users unknown in jail, what to do?

2005-12-30 Thread Ruben Bloemgarten
Hi Gabor, 

Did you install the jail following the instructions of the man page ? Which
version of FBSD are you running ? Assuming that u are running the jail
command from root, you don't have to specify the user. 

Regards, 
Ruben 

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Sent: December 30, 2005 10:36 PM
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Subject: Users unknown in jail, what to do?

Hello,

I've set up a jail and started it with:

jail -u root /path/to/jail hostname ip /bin/sh

When I tried to install a port inside the jail I got an error message 
that I don't have the mtree files. I don't know why those files haven't 
been built but I copied it from the host system to the jail. Now I get:

mtree: line 6: unknown user root
*** Error code 1

I copied passwd, master.passwd, group, nsswitch.conf files, too, but I 
get the same. Could somebody tell me how can I solve this?

Thanks in advance,

Gabor Kovesdan
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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-11-18 Thread Bryan White

Ok... looks like add route default got it to work.  Thanks a ton.

Matt Emmerton wrote:


[ top-posting corrected ]

 


Matt Emmerton wrote:

   


Hi,

I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
6.0-RC1.

The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in
the air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot
ping the AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only
thing I can do is associate. I think it does associate because when
I set an invalid wep key, t# Wireless NIC cards
 



 


I type in:

# ifconfig ath0 channel 7 ssid gibsons wepmode on
# ifconfig ath0 weptxkey *etc.
# ifconfig ath0 up
# ifconfig ath0
ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
  inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe0f:3f66%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4
  ether 00:13:46:0f:3f:66
  media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
  status: associated
  ssid gibsons channel 7 bssid 00:0c:41:a0:2c:46
  authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF txpowmax 38 protmode CTS
  bintval 100
# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.107.15
# ping 192.168.107.1

I am unable to ping my router. (linksys bewfs42)

It seems like i'm missing something really simple here...anyone able to
help point me in the right direction?  Thanks.
   


Maybe deftxkey needs to be set?
 



 


Tried it...I think i've tried almost every combination of weptxkey and
deftxkey and starting up things in different orders...  However, when I
disabled WEP on my router I can connect to my router and get an IP, but
no internet.
   



When you ping, do you see ping: sendto: Host is down errors or ping:
sendto: No route to host errors, or just nothing at all from ping?

If it's either of the latter two options, then perhaps setting a default
route (route add default 192.168.107.1) is what you need.

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-11-17 Thread Bryan White
 Hi,

 I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
 Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
 6.0-RC1.

 The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in
 the air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot
 ping the AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only
 thing I can do is associate. I think it does associate because when
 I set an invalid wep key, t# Wireless NIC cards

 Setting a static IP address does not help.

 Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
 setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
 Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).

If it is using wep, set the weptxkey. I had the same problem when
moving from a laptop with releng_5 to a laptop with releng_6.

I am having this same issue I believe in FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE.  I have a
dwl-g650 na.b5, h/w ver :b5, f/w ver :2.54.  I compiled the
following into my kernel:

device  wlan# 802.11 support  
device  ath # Atheros
device  ath_hal # Ath_hal
device  ath_rate_onoe
device  wlan
device  wlan_wep# WEP support

I type in:

# ifconfig ath0 channel 7 ssid gibsons wepmode on
# ifconfig ath0 weptxkey *etc.
# ifconfig ath0 up
# ifconfig ath0
ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe0f:3f66%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 
ether 00:13:46:0f:3f:66
media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
status: associated
ssid gibsons channel 7 bssid 00:0c:41:a0:2c:46
authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF txpowmax 38 protmode CTS
bintval 100
# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.107.15
# ping 192.168.107.1

I am unable to ping my router. (linksys bewfs42)

It seems like i'm missing something really simple here...anyone able to
help point me in the right direction?  Thanks.

-Bryan








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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-11-17 Thread Matt Emmerton
  Hi,
 
  I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
  Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
  6.0-RC1.
 
  The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in
  the air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot
  ping the AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only
  thing I can do is associate. I think it does associate because when
  I set an invalid wep key, t# Wireless NIC cards
 
  Setting a static IP address does not help.
 
  Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
  setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
  Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).
 
 If it is using wep, set the weptxkey. I had the same problem when
 moving from a laptop with releng_5 to a laptop with releng_6.
 
 I am having this same issue I believe in FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE.  I have a
 dwl-g650 na.b5, h/w ver :b5, f/w ver :2.54.  I compiled the
 following into my kernel:
 
 device  wlan# 802.11 support  
 device  ath # Atheros
 device  ath_hal # Ath_hal
 device  ath_rate_onoe
 device  wlan
 device  wlan_wep# WEP support
 
 I type in:
 
 # ifconfig ath0 channel 7 ssid gibsons wepmode on
 # ifconfig ath0 weptxkey *etc.
 # ifconfig ath0 up
 # ifconfig ath0
 ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
 inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe0f:3f66%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 
 ether 00:13:46:0f:3f:66
 media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
 status: associated
 ssid gibsons channel 7 bssid 00:0c:41:a0:2c:46
 authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF txpowmax 38 protmode CTS
 bintval 100
 # ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.107.15
 # ping 192.168.107.1
 
 I am unable to ping my router. (linksys bewfs42)
 
 It seems like i'm missing something really simple here...anyone able to
 help point me in the right direction?  Thanks.

Maybe deftxkey needs to be set?

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-11-17 Thread Bryan White
Tried turning deftxkey 1 too, same thing.  However when I turn off WEP 
on my router, I can connect to and ping the router, but I can't get 
internet...


Matt Emmerton wrote:


Hi,

I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
6.0-RC1.

The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in
the air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot
ping the AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only
thing I can do is associate. I think it does associate because when
I set an invalid wep key, t# Wireless NIC cards
 


Setting a static IP address does not help.

Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).
 


If it is using wep, set the weptxkey. I had the same problem when
moving from a laptop with releng_5 to a laptop with releng_6.
 


I am having this same issue I believe in FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE.  I have a
dwl-g650 na.b5, h/w ver :b5, f/w ver :2.54.  I compiled the
following into my kernel:

device  wlan# 802.11 support  
device  ath # Atheros

device  ath_hal # Ath_hal
device  ath_rate_onoe
device  wlan
device  wlan_wep# WEP support

I type in:

# ifconfig ath0 channel 7 ssid gibsons wepmode on
# ifconfig ath0 weptxkey *etc.
# ifconfig ath0 up
# ifconfig ath0
ath0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
   inet6 fe80::213:46ff:fe0f:3f66%ath0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x4 
   ether 00:13:46:0f:3f:66

   media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
   status: associated
   ssid gibsons channel 7 bssid 00:0c:41:a0:2c:46
   authmode OPEN privacy ON deftxkey UNDEF txpowmax 38 protmode CTS
   bintval 100
# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.107.15
# ping 192.168.107.1

I am unable to ping my router. (linksys bewfs42)

It seems like i'm missing something really simple here...anyone able to
help point me in the right direction?  Thanks.
   



Maybe deftxkey needs to be set?

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-11-08 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 19:25:39 +0100
Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
 Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
 6.0-RC1.
 
 The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in
 the air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot
 ping the AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only
 thing I can do is associate. I think it does associate because when
 I set an invalid wep key, the status changes back to 'no carrier'.
 Setting a static IP address does not help.
 
 Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
 setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
 Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).

If it is using wep, set the weptxkey. I had the same problem when
moving from a laptop with releng_5 to a laptop with releng_6.
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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-11-02 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-11-02 08:41, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:44:49PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
  Make sure you're not running a BSD firewall too, like the one I had a
  few days ago and kept failing to obtain an address from my wireless AP
  at home because of the paranoid ruleset I was using :)

 First I confirmed that it really wasn't a firewall issue. Then
 of course I found out it was a PEBKAC; I used this command to
 configure ath0:

 # ifconfig ath0 ssid FOO wepmode on wepkey 0xBAR

 which showed an association but did not allow packets to be
 sent. The correct incantation is

 # ifconfig ath0 ssid FOO wepmode on wepkey 0xBAR weptxkey 1

 which, I presume, also sets the wepkey to be used for
 transmitting packets after destination. I must say that I don't
 really see the value of specifying the WEP key and then not
 using it, but then again this is not my OS :-)

Ah!  Hehe.  That's a nice catch there.

I didn't hit this because I explicitly specified more than the
absolutely necessary stuff in my /root/netstart.home shell
script, which I use to connect to my home's network.  The
important bit for the wepkey setup is the ifconfig_ath0 line,
which contains:

% # Use a format similar to rc.conf(5) to allow /etc/rc.d/netif to
% # find and use these settings automagically.
% export ifconfig_ath0=DHCP ssid FOO \
% wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey '1:0xXX'

I'm explicitly specifying that weptxkey is going to be key 1 and
then prepending the number of the key, so this didn't happen here.

Thanks for the followup, since now I know what to look for when
things don't Just Work(TM) in the future :)))

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-11-01 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:44:49PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-10-31 19:40, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:28:51PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).
   
   You haven't firewalled everything off, right?
  
  Good call! I certainly hope not. I haven't touched the AP since
  getting it working with the same laptop in Windows, at least none of
  its firewall rules.  I'll triplecheck asap though.
 
 Make sure you're not running a BSD firewall too, like the one I had a
 few days ago and kept failing to obtain an address from my wireless AP
 at home because of the paranoid ruleset I was using :)

First I confirmed that it really wasn't a firewall issue. Then of
course I found out it was a PEBKAC; I used this command to configure
ath0:

# ifconfig ath0 ssid FOO wepmode on wepkey 0xBAR

which showed an association but did not allow packets to be sent. The
correct incantation is

# ifconfig ath0 ssid FOO wepmode on wepkey 0xBAR weptxkey 1

which, I presume, also sets the wepkey to be used for transmitting
packets after destination. I must say that I don't really see the
value of specifying the WEP key and then not using it, but then again
this is not my OS :-)

Thanks for thinking with me, Giorgios!

--Stijn

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cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-10-31 Thread Stijn Hoop
Hi,

I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
6.0-RC1.

The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in the
air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot ping the
AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only thing I can do
is associate. I think it does associate because when I set an invalid
wep key, the status changes back to 'no carrier'. Setting a static IP
address does not help.

Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).

Thanks,

--Stijn

[1] read: the day before yesterday...

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-10-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-10-31 19:25, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
 Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
 6.0-RC1.

 The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in the
 air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot ping the
 AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only thing I can do
 is associate. I think it does associate because when I set an invalid
 wep key, the status changes back to 'no carrier'. Setting a static IP
 address does not help.

 Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
 setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
 Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).

You haven't firewalled everything off, right?

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-10-31 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:28:51PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
 On 2005-10-31 19:25, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi,
 
  I have an SMC PCMCIA wireless adapter, model SMCWCB-G, based on an
  Atheros 5212 chipset, in a laptop running a fresh install of FreeBSD
  6.0-RC1.
 
  The card associates fine, but then fails to send any IP packets in the
  air, or at least that's what I presume is going on. I cannot ping the
  AP, I cannot get a lease using DHCP, basically the only thing I can do
  is associate. I think it does associate because when I set an invalid
  wep key, the status changes back to 'no carrier'. Setting a static IP
  address does not help.
 
  Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
  setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
  Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).
 
 You haven't firewalled everything off, right?

Good call! I certainly hope not. I haven't touched the AP since
getting it working with the same laptop in Windows, at least none of
its firewall rules.  I'll triplecheck asap though.

--Stijn

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 AP, what to do?

2005-10-31 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-10-31 19:40, Stijn Hoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:28:51PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
   Any hints on where I might go from here to debug this? I know the
   setup should work because in a previous life [1] it Worked With
   Windows[TM] (and on the same AP).
  
  You haven't firewalled everything off, right?
 
 Good call! I certainly hope not. I haven't touched the AP since
 getting it working with the same laptop in Windows, at least none of
 its firewall rules.  I'll triplecheck asap though.

Make sure you're not running a BSD firewall too, like the one I had a
few days ago and kept failing to obtain an address from my wireless AP
at home because of the paranoid ruleset I was using :)

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Re: what to do? amd64 - i386

2005-08-01 Thread dick hoogendijk
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:48:07 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote:
 dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Any ideas about _WHAT_ does not work? Do you have examples?
  If I can't live without them, then.. ;-))
 I forget, but too many for me.  Found somebody with Google that got
 several broken things running, but he didn't say how.
 
 I had a few problems with base-system stuff but probably could have
 lived with that. (Eg, I had to use older ncr instead of sym.)  The
 problems are with the ports, so waiting for 6.x won't help.

I keep on wondering what will be best for this new amd64 machine.
Today I saw all KDE packages were anewed. I have a fbsd-4.11-stable
machine that has KDE running. My other machines have 5.4, so I cannot
build the 4.11 packages on one of those (faster) machines.

And then there's this dicussion on the speed of 5.4 - 4.11 (the
latter is said to be faster). Maybe it's just to early to make the
switch to 5.x if all options needed are supported in 4.11-stable.

If I install the latter on the new amd64 machine (dump /restore) I will
have a very fast machine (i386) which can build the packages for the
main server too.

HOW LONG will FreeBSD-4.11 be supported ??

(could not find it on the website)

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Re: what to do? amd64 - i386

2005-08-01 Thread Dmitry Mityugov
On 8/1/05, dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 13:48:07 -0700
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote:
  dick hoogendijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   Any ideas about _WHAT_ does not work? Do you have examples?
   If I can't live without them, then.. ;-))
  I forget, but too many for me.  Found somebody with Google that got
  several broken things running, but he didn't say how.
 
  I had a few problems with base-system stuff but probably could have
  lived with that. (Eg, I had to use older ncr instead of sym.)  The
  problems are with the ports, so waiting for 6.x won't help.
 
 I keep on wondering what will be best for this new amd64 machine.
 Today I saw all KDE packages were anewed. I have a fbsd-4.11-stable
 machine that has KDE running. My other machines have 5.4, so I cannot
 build the 4.11 packages on one of those (faster) machines.
 
 And then there's this dicussion on the speed of 5.4 - 4.11 (the
 latter is said to be faster). Maybe it's just to early to make the
 switch to 5.x if all options needed are supported in 4.11-stable.
 
 If I install the latter on the new amd64 machine (dump /restore) I will
 have a very fast machine (i386) which can build the packages for the
 main server too.
 
 HOW LONG will FreeBSD-4.11 be supported ??

It's at http://www.freebsd.org/security/ (estimated EOL - 31 Jan 2007.
It's interesting that estimated EOL for 5.4 mentioned on the same page
is earlier than that).

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what to do? amd64 - i386

2005-07-31 Thread dick hoogendijk
I have a well running FreeBSD-5.4 system. In a few days I get an
Athlon64 based system, so I will be able to install the FreeBSD-5.4-64
version _OR_ use dump / restore to transport my system to the new drive.

Personally I think it is wiser to wait for fbsd-6.x to make the
transfer and use my (old) FreeBSD-5.4-i386 version on my new machine.

But maybe I'm wrong about this assumption. FreeBSD will be my main
system. I will use a lot of ports and don't mind reinstalling, but it
should be worthwile. I know the OS itself will be faster, but how about
ports. Is there a way to find out which ports will or will not build?

Using the i386 version gives me no hassle at all I guess, but.. (??)

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