OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Gary Kline
we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap. is there a laser other than the brother

Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 23:28:08 -0700, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: is there a laser other than the brother {tm}? i mean, that the members of this org would go for? Yes: Office printers, even used ones are fine. Pay attention that they have: - ethernet port - postscript

Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 16.06.2011 08:28, Gary Kline wrote: we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap.

Re: how do i fsck my server?

2011-06-16 Thread RW
_ From: Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com To: Gary Kline kl...@thought.org Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sent: Wed, June 15, 2011 4:04:23 PM Subject: Re: how do i fsck my server? You can set fsck_y_enable=YES in /etc/rc.conf, but it shouldn't

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Albert Shih
Le 15/06/2011 à 22:34:23+0200, Thomas Hansen a écrit one of my mates teacher says that unix is free and your system running like UnixWare / SCO UNIX and and that unix is free Do your BSD kernel run the same unix kernel as unixware Take a look : http://www.levenez.com/unix/

Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread C. P. Ghost
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote: we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer.  i just got it working FINALLY with our cups stuff.  don't asked me how; other than i was using our olden

Re: how do i fsck my server?

2011-06-16 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Facts: 8.2-RELEASE man fsck -B ... background fsck is limited to checking for only the most commonly occurring file system abnormalities. Under certain circumstances, some errors can escape background fsck. It is recommended that you perform foreground fsck

finding kernel 'r' number

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Huff
For some time now, people have been referring to what build they're using by the 'r' number, which I believe to be part of svn. How would one go about determining this value for the installed kernel? Robert Huff

Re: finding kernel 'r' number

2011-06-16 Thread Bruce Cran
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:16:45 -0400 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: For some time now, people have been referring to what build they're using by the 'r' number, which I believe to be part of svn. How would one go about determining this value for the installed kernel? I'm not

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Reko Turja
I have very few uses for sqlite3 but I still have them. And PDO? Never seen anything run it. Some pretty big projects including Drupal CMS are moving to PDO. I reckon that having other options without reinventing the wheel, than one certain Oracle controlled DB-backend is starting to gain

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/15 17:08:31 -0400 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net = To Thomas Hansen : CB FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is CB still the proprietary property of ATT/Bell Labs. unix is a trademark of novell.com.

Re: finding kernel 'r' number

2011-06-16 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 06/16/2011 02:28 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 08:16:45 -0400 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: For some time now, people have been referring to what build they're using by the 'r' number, which I believe to be part of svn. How would one go about determining this

Re: finding kernel 'r' number

2011-06-16 Thread Brandon Gooch
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote:        For some time now, people have been referring to what build they're using by the 'r' number, which I believe to be part of svn.        How would one go about determining this value for the installed kernel?      

Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011, Gary Kline wrote: we had a power out here this morning and besides it costing most of my day, it blew out my Brother laser printer. i just got it working FINALLY with our cups stuff. don't asked me how; other than i was using our olden lpr/lpd and had /etc/printcap. is

Re: finding kernel 'r' number

2011-06-16 Thread Bas Smeelen
On 06/16/2011 02:32 PM, Brandon Gooch wrote: That would be uname(1): $ uname -v FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r223017: Sun Jun 12 13:55:34 CDT 2011 root@m6500.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC where r223017 is the current svn revision number from which my system is compiled (kernel and

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 16/06/2011 13:52, Peter Vereshagin wrote: You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/15 17:08:31 -0400 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net = To Thomas Hansen : CB FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is CB still the proprietary property of

ZFS and cp -x

2011-06-16 Thread Eir Nym
Does `cp -x` works correctly on ZFS? -- Eir Nym ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org

Read/Dump Bios chip info

2011-06-16 Thread Jean-Paul Natola
Is there any program that can read and or dump the info written in a BIOS chip? TIA, JP ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: finding kernel 'r' number

2011-06-16 Thread Damien Fleuriot
On 6/16/11 3:17 PM, Bas Smeelen wrote: On 06/16/2011 02:32 PM, Brandon Gooch wrote: That would be uname(1): $ uname -v FreeBSD 9.0-CURRENT #0 r223017: Sun Jun 12 13:55:34 CDT 2011 root@m6500.local:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC where r223017 is the current svn revision number from which

Re: Read/Dump Bios chip info

2011-06-16 Thread Devin Teske
On Jun 16, 2011, at 6:23 AM, Jean-Paul Natola jnat...@familycareintl.org wrote: Is there any program that can read and or dump the info written in a BIOS chip? pkg_add -r dmidecode -- Devin _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 03:41 PM 6/16/2011 +0300, Reko Turja wrote: I have very few uses for sqlite3 but I still have them. And PDO? Never seen anything run it. Some pretty big projects including Drupal CMS are moving to PDO. I reckon that having other options without reinventing the wheel, than one certain

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
On Thursday, June 16, 2011 09:22:43 AM Matthew Seaman wrote: On 16/06/2011 13:52, Peter Vereshagin wrote: You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/15 17:08:31 -0400 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net = To Thomas Hansen : CB FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Reko Turja
Now, I wrestling with the apache2 and apr0 issue. The apache port Makefile wants apr0, but it now has vulnablilities. Ports UPDATING says to do this with apr: - remove apache2 and then: portupgrade -f -o devel/apr1 devel/apr ...and then reinstall apache2. That didn't work because the Makefile

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Powell
Jack L. Stone wrote: [snip] Now, I wrestling with the apache2 and apr0 issue. The apache port Makefile wants apr0, but it now has vulnablilities. Ports UPDATING says to do this with apr: - remove apache2 and then: portupgrade -f -o devel/apr1 devel/apr ...and then reinstall apache2. That

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Reko Turja
From: Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com pulls in a few more dependencies than I'd really like, especially the apr1 (now named apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-1.4.5.1.3.12) port installing The name depends completely on the knobs you have used with portbuild - my apr is:

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 14:22:43 +0100 Matthew Seaman m.sea...@infracaninophile.co.uk = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : MS CB FreeBSD is a UNIX-like clone, which is indeed free, whereas UNIX is MS CB still the proprietary property of ATT/Bell Labs. MS

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 10:06:42 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS I think the confusion that you all are having is between the idea of RS copyright and trademark. They are different. Copyright applies to the

Going STABLE in 64bit

2011-06-16 Thread Andy Wodfer
Hi, I'm running 8.2 REL. Are there any specific things to be aware of when compiling kernel and making world in 64bit? Required kernel modules etc? I've only done this in 32bit. Thanks! Andreas --- Mvh/Rgds, Andreas Wideroe andr...@wideroe.net ___

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
On Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:29:42 AM Peter Vereshagin wrote: There should be a difference recognized between own a Unix trademark by http://www.unix.org/trademark.html and ownership of the Unix copyrights by http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20100330152829622 where I'm pass. There

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 06:18 PM 6/16/2011 +0300, Reko Turja wrote: From: Michael Powell nightre...@hotmail.com pulls in a few more dependencies than I'd really like, especially the apr1 (now named apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db42-1.4.5.1.3.12) port installing The name depends completely on the knobs you have used

Re: Going STABLE in 64bit

2011-06-16 Thread Mike Tancsa
On 6/16/2011 11:49 AM, Andy Wodfer wrote: Hi, I'm running 8.2 REL. Are there any specific things to be aware of when compiling kernel and making world in 64bit? Required kernel modules etc? I sometimes forget that the kernel config is in cd /usr/src/sys/amd64/conf/ and not cd

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
On Thursday, June 16, 2011 11:47:32 AM Peter Vereshagin wrote: This will require some efforts from Open Group. Does FreeBSD Foundation pay for that? Not necessary. FreeBSD does not use (want to use/need to use) the UNIX trademark and according to the USL vs. BSDi court case, FreeBSD does not

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 11:54:05 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark I'll surely will when I'll have some to trade ;-) RS

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Reko Turja
-- From: Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com thrown out of court. Additionally, the source code is GPL, so even if in the fictional world of Linus taking the trademark elsewhere, you can fork the code and call it

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Simmons
On Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:31:19 PM Reko Turja wrote: In that fictional world MySQL needed a fork and some GPL'd programs have been retroactively made completely closed source, forking denied after taking the issue into court... I thought that Sun reversed that decision in 2008. Can you

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Reko Turja
From: Jack L. Stone ja...@sage-american.com Also, I see the sqlite3 is tacked on the apr you have. I only have: apr-ipv6-devrandom-gdbm-db46-mysql50-1.4.5.1.3.12 Yeah when I ran make config for apr I selected sqlite as I had it already installed for stuff where I might need SQL capabilities,

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Powell
Jack L. Stone wrote: [snip] Thanks to both you and Mike for the advice. I've already installed apache22 on a test server and trying to allocate time to it as and when. Looks like this apr thing is going to raise the priority. You shouldn't have any of these apr problems with 22. Also, I

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 16 June 2011 17:47, Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, June 16, 2011 12:31:19 PM Reko Turja wrote: In that fictional world MySQL needed a fork and some GPL'd programs have been retroactively made completely closed source, forking denied after taking the issue into

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 12:56 PM 6/16/2011 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: Jack L. Stone wrote: -Mike Mike, very useful info. I had surmised about the extra .configs to reduce the size of the main config file. I had already started doing that with apache2. Have been studying the files and comparing to my present

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Daniel Staal
On Thu, June 16, 2011 12:20 pm, Peter Vereshagin wrote: You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 11:54:05 -0400 Robert Simmons rsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark

startup postgresql 9.0.3

2011-06-16 Thread Jeff Hamann
I've installed and tested postgresql just fine on FreeBSD 8.2. I've been trying to get postgresql (the server) to start on bootup using /etc/rc.conf system. I'm using the script from the tarball (found in the contrib/start-scripts/freebsd of postreges tarball) I can't seem to get it to work

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 13:36:32 -0400 Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : DS RS Copyright pertains to the source code. Trademark pertains to the use DS of DS RS signs, symbols, names, logos, etc. DS DS Source code itself

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 02:22:43PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 16/06/2011 13:52, Peter Vereshagin wrote: unix is a trademark of novell.com. Unix (note capitalization) is actually a trademark of the Open Group: http://www.unix.org/ In case it was lost in the informative explanations

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 10:20:11PM +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: But both are just words/phrases, right? Here's an example of the difference: UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can use it all we like here, speaking about the UNIX trademark, its applicability, who owns the trademark, and so

Re: startup postgresql 9.0.3

2011-06-16 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 16, 2011, at 10:26 AM, Jeff Hamann wrote: I've installed and tested postgresql just fine on FreeBSD 8.2. I gather this means running the database manually via postgres -D /usr/local/pgsql/data works normally? As instructed in the script, I've moved the file to

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 12:46:20 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : CP But both are just words/phrases, right? CP CP Here's an example of the difference: Good example, it's on-topic ;-) CP UNIX, the name, is a

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 12:30:07 -0600 Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : CP * The UNIX source code's copyright is held by . . . damn. It keeps I always told this name is a kind of Black Label. Companies to hold it use to

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 12:56 PM 6/16/2011 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: Jack L. Stone wrote: The no-accf.conf under includes is for if you do not desire to use either of the AcceptFilter choices, one for httpd the other for SSL traffic. These can be loaded as kernel modules in /boot/loader.conf as such:

Re: startup postgresql 9.0.3

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Powell
Jeff Hamann wrote: I've installed and tested postgresql just fine on FreeBSD 8.2. I've been trying to get postgresql (the server) to start on bootup using /etc/rc.conf system. Sometime quite a while back FreeBSD imported the rc.subr startup subsystem from NetBSD. I'm using the script

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Reko Turja
The no-accf.conf under includes is for if you do not desire to use either of the AcceptFilter choices, one for httpd the other for SSL traffic. These can be loaded as kernel modules in /boot/loader.conf as such: accf_http_load=YES accf_data_load=YES You can also build the modules into kernel

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Michael Powell
Jack L. Stone wrote: At 12:56 PM 6/16/2011 -0400, Michael Powell wrote: Jack L. Stone wrote: The no-accf.conf under includes is for if you do not desire to use either of the AcceptFilter choices, one for httpd the other for SSL traffic. These can be loaded as kernel modules in

Re: Another PHP5 problem

2011-06-16 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 10:57 PM 6/16/2011 +0300, Reko Turja wrote: The no-accf.conf under includes is for if you do not desire to use either of the AcceptFilter choices, one for httpd the other for SSL traffic. These can be loaded as kernel modules in /boot/loader.conf as such: accf_http_load=YES

Re: OT: printer, our cups port, and is-there-a-generic-laser?

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 07:00:30 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: Also, see lpd Printing With FreeBSD http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html It's worth mentioning that real office printers (those that come with Ethernet) traditionally contain their own lpd

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 19:29:42 +0400, Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org wrote: Lawyers are so lawyers ;-) Two lawyers, three opinions. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___

OT: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-16 Thread Robert
Greetings I have a strange problem with memory on one of my computers. I have recently converted this computer to a NAS server. It is an Asus A8N-VM MB running freenas amd64. I have 4 one Gig memory sticks installed and as well as I can remember, it had always seen the 4 Gig of RAM. Most

Re: OT: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-16 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Robert wrote: I have tested with all of the sticks installed and with one at a time. When all of the sticks are installed, BIOS show a total of 2752 MB of RAM. If any of the sticks are installed alone in any of the four slots, BIOS then shows 960 MB instead of the

RE: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-16 Thread Gary Gatten
It's quite simple really, it's another hidden tax - Redistribution of RAM. You see, even with all the entitlement programs poor people can't afford more than 512MB of RAM. As you are certainly aware that's not enough to watch YouTube and Hulu on their government funded (tax payer funded)

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of June 16, 2011 11:21:34 PM +0400, Peter Vereshagin is alleged to have said: CP UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can use it all we like here, speaking Do we need a license to use it? ;-) According to what I recall of my 'business law for managers' classes: As long as we don't

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:20:43 -0400, Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net wrote: According to what I recall of my 'business law for managers' classes: As long as we don't claim we own it, and only *referring* to the company who does or it's products, no. It's an identifying mark: You can use it to

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Re: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-16 Thread Robert
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 17:09:30 -0500 Gary Gatten ggat...@waddell.com wrote: It's quite simple really, it's another hidden tax - Redistribution of RAM. You see, even with all the entitlement programs poor people can't afford more than 512MB of RAM. As you are certainly aware that's not enough

Re: OT: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-16 Thread Robert
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:11:22 -0700 Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: On Jun 16, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Robert wrote: I have tested with all of the sticks installed and with one at a time. When all of the sticks are installed, BIOS show a total of 2752 MB of RAM. If any of the sticks are

Re: OT: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-16 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Chuck Swiger cswi...@mac.com wrote: As for not being able to access all 4GB, this is a FAQ. If you run a 32-bit system, the top gigabyte or so of address space is reserved for memory mapped I/O reservations like AGP, PCIe, etc. If your hardware is capable of

Re: OT: Strange memory reading (hardware)

2011-06-16 Thread Robert Bonomi
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Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of June 17, 2011 12:47:45 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have said: (And note that a pure list of facts can't be copyrighted: The phone book is often an example. It's just a list of names and numbers.) Interesting, never tought of that, but sounds obvious. --As for the rest, it

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Peter Vereshagin
You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 18:20:43 -0400 Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net = To Peter Vereshagin : DS CP UNIX, the name, is a trademark. We can use it all we like here, DS speaking DS DS Do we need a license to use it? ;-) DS DS According to what I recall of my

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chuck Swiger
On Jun 16, 2011, at 5:07 PM, Peter Vereshagin wrote: And does FreeBSD Foundation own its FreeBSD UNIX then? If it does, did it pay for it? Does it certify its FreeBSD as a UNIX and how much does it pay? The FreeBSD Foundation is a non-profit organization which supports and represents the

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 04:07:08 +0400, Peter Vereshagin pe...@vereshagin.org wrote: And does FreeBSD Foundation own its FreeBSD UNIX then? If it does, did it pay for it? Does it certify its FreeBSD as a UNIX and how much does it pay? Basically, the main page says based on, this states a fact and

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Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 07:43:59PM -0400, Daniel Staal wrote: (The other common case in the USA is road maps. A simple 'lines following their geographic contours, labeled' is a set of facts. One result of this is that most road maps in the US either are missing some minor roads, or have

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:50:40AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 04:07:08 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: It's just a matter of a freedom to speech to me. And to everyone else I believe. Copyright and ownership of creation just makes sure that someone can't express OTHER's

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:03:16 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:50:40AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 04:07:08 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: It's just a matter of a freedom to speech to me. And to everyone else I believe.

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Chad Perrin
I've noticed that your mail user agent is including quoted parties' email addresses in the quote notification. In the text immediately following this brief paragraph, for instance, my email address was included after my name. I would appreciate it if you would configure your mail user agent to

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:35:54 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: I've noticed that your mail user agent is including quoted parties' email addresses in the quote notification. In the text immediately following this brief paragraph, for instance, my email address was included after my name. I would

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-16 19:36, Daniel Staal skrev: On Thu, June 16, 2011 12:20 pm, Peter Vereshagin wrote: You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 11:54:05 -0400 Robert Simmonsrsimmo...@gmail.com = To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : RS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright RS

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Adam Vande More
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Bernt Hansson be...@bah.homeip.netwrote: Unless you work the trademark in you have to pay to register the name. I'm not sure by what mean by work the trademark in but every business is entitled to use tm or sm identification without registration. However by

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-17 00:20, Daniel Staal skrev: --As of June 16, 2011 11:21:34 PM +0400, Peter Vereshagin is alleged to have said: (And note that a pure list of facts can't be copyrighted: The phone book is often an example. It's just a list of names and numbers.) Which is copyrighted, all databases

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-17 06:53, Adam Vande More skrev: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM, Bernt Hanssonbe...@bah.homeip.netwrote: Unless you work the trademark in you have to pay to register the name. I'm not sure by what mean by work the trademark in but every business is entitled to use tm or sm

Re: free sco unix

2011-06-16 Thread Bernt Hansson
2011-06-16 20:30, Chad Perrin skrev: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 02:22:43PM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: On 16/06/2011 13:52, Peter Vereshagin wrote: unix is a trademark of novell.com. Unix (note capitalization) is actually a trademark of the Open Group: http://www.unix.org/ In EU there are