Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Outback Dingo wrote: > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Adam Vande More > wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Outback Dingo > > wrote: > >> ... Name one cloud provider providing FreeBSD 8x or 9X to run > >> as instances. I know of one coming... question is are there > >> others > >

Fwd: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

-- Forwarded message -- From: Aryeh Friedman Date: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:16 AM Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore To: per...@pluto.rain.com That is the approach I am taking... RS's recommendation was we make a disk image to overwrite the existing linux i

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 07:10:59AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of > juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather > interesting post this morning. > > "Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore" > >

Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users rename those filename to "inoffensive" ones :-) We are facing a legal problem so I'm a bit in the hurr

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Outback Dingo wrote: > Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not "cloud" based per se, as > there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted RootBSD is nice > but on demand expansion of memory, cpu and disk under ones control is more > what i would descr

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 01:51:19 -0500, Joshua Isom wrote: > On 7/18/2011 8:05 AM, per...@pluto.rain.com wrote: > > Joshua Isom wrote: > >> On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > >>> On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: > I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more >

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command > in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? > > I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users > rename those filename to "inoffens

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

I moved from Linux (Debian GNU/Linux) to (Free|Open)BSD a few weeks ago and I am really impressed by the *BSDs. They are working very well (the "Just works" feeling I missed a long time), the port and package-system is very nice and handy, it's stable and you have a really powerful (superior) co

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

Grep. Ryan Coleman On Jul 18, 2011, at 2:55, Frank Bonnet wrote: > Hello > > Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command > in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? > > I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users > rename those filenam

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 07/18/11 03:02 PM, Adam Vande More wrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:16 PM, Outback Dingowrote: Im pretty sure they are only XEN based and not "cloud" based per se, as there appears to be no elasticity on demand, Granted RootBSD is nice but on demand expansion of memory, cpu and disk under

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command in order to detect video, music, games ... etc files ? I need a tool that could "inspect" inside files because many users ren

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: > On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command > >> in order to detect video, music, games ... etc f

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

2011/7/18 "C. Bergström" > > One of those links gives a 404 on the root domain Works for me. > and the other on the pricing page > (http://www.reliacloud.com/**pricing/ > ) > Not sure where you got that link. Use the menu. > I'm not sure how serious th

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:38:22 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: On 07/18/2011 10:10 AM, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:55:09 +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote: Hello Anyone knows an utility that I could pipe to the "find" command in order to detect video, m

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 12:56:10AM +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 09:33:45AM -0500, Antonio Olivares wrote: > > >> > I hoped for a true native port for TeXLive > > >> > > >> I can't see that it's really necessary. I remember difficulties with the > > >> 2009 release whe

Re: What is xz ?

Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/17 23:08:16 -0400 "ill...@gmail.com" => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : igc> (Should be under contrib/xz ) archivers/xz 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org ___

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:19:13 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > If you know of another tex project where teTeX fails, > please send me the details. I'm keen to patch > teTeX as far as possible with no major > changes to TDS, i.e. just adding or updating > a package. If TeXlive is (or becomes) "the

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

> From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011 > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200 > From: Frank Bonnet > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) > > On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jul

Re: What is xz ?

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:36:07 +0400, Peter Vereshagin wrote: > Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! > 2011/07/17 23:08:16 -0400 "ill...@gmail.com" => To > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : > > igc> (Should be under contrib/xz ) > > archivers/xz /usr/ports/archivers/xz on my (quite ol

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

On 07/18/2011 11:44 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Mon Jul 18 03:55:59 2011 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:55:58 +0200 From: Frank Bonnet To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) On 07/18/2011 10:45 AM, Po

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:38:22AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:19:13 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > If you know of another tex project where teTeX fails, > > please send me the details. I'm keen to patch > > teTeX as far as possible with no major > > changes to TDS, i.e.

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:05:41 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > And furthermore, I've found some Linux users migrating > AWAY from Linux, using FreeBSD instead. How can this be > combined with Poettering's claim? I'm the one...using Linux since '99 (SuSE, Gentoo,Arch) and moved to PCBSD-9.0 some months a

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/18 03:49:59 -0500 Adam Vande More => To C. Bergstr?m : AVM> We all wish a lot of things. One of mine would be that people shouldn't AVM> have strong opinions on subjects they know little to nothing about. It's about me too, but I'm inter

Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: > I'm the one...using Linux since '99 (SuSE, Gentoo,Arch) and moved to > PCBSD-9.0 some months ago. I'm *very* happy and cannot believe how > little time I spend doing admin work 'cause the OS 'just works'. > > Otoh, Linux was saga with *constant* twe

groff && UTF-8

Hello, In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. I've now a project where it would fit really nicely. It's making (Postscript or PCL) printout of some pages like this example one: http://www.unixarea.de/

Re: groff && UTF-8

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 12:49:39 +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Hello, > > In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and > letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. > > I've now a project where it would fit really nicely. It's making > (Postscript or

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 C. Bergström articulated: > I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as > they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing fully functional wireless drivers as opposed to simply bumpi

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote: > I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start > a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that > either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable > of writing. Other OS's are cu

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:30 AM, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 > C. Bergström articulated: > >> I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as >> they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) > > Personally, I wish they would spend more time in developing ful

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 07/18/11 06:30 PM, Jerry wrote: I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable of writing. Like a bounties page? (If such a t

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Just a side note I am the managing partner in a software development firm and they *ONLY* reason we have not released the majority of our internal lib is because we are essentially giving something of huge value (to us) up for nothing in return but if there was money involved to compensate for the

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 17/07/2011 15:02, "C. Bergström" wrote: On 07/17/11 07:43 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote: Op 17-7-2011 14:17 schreef Subbsd: community decreases. It is a pity that many developers of FreeBSD have left in Apple, the small part works over {NET,OPEN,DRAGONFLY}.BSD but as a whole it already absolute

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:30:00AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start > a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that > either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable > of writing. Other OS'

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:30:00AM -0400, Jerry wrote: > I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start > a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that > either the regular contributors do not want to write or are not capable > of writing. Other OS'

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Em Seg, 2011-07-18 às 07:30 -0400, Jerry escreveu: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:47:24 +0700 > C. Bergström articulated: > > > I wish people would spend as much time solving problems in *BSD as > > they do trying to defend an irrelevant OS ;) > > Personally, I wish they would spend more time in devel

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 07:01:29PM +0700, "C. Bergstr??m" wrote: > On 07/18/11 06:30 PM, Jerry wrote: > >I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start > >a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that > >either the regular contributors do not want to

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/18 07:50:41 -0400 Aryeh Friedman => To FreeBSD : AF> > version number every 18 months +/-. I have two new laptops ion front of AF> > me that I cannot use FBSD on simply because they don't support the AF> > wireless (N class obviously) ins

Re: options used to compile packages

Michael Powell writes: > David Arendt wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> well I don't actually now which package it was, but I compiled gdm (so >> it should be one of it's dependencies). A compilation resulted in a non >> working gdm (something with pam support not found on execution). Upon >> installing gdm

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 13:49:03 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote: > > I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD > > start a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write > > code that either the regular contributors do

Re: when compile,gcc can not work?

jyl_2006 writes: > For some reason,I want to compile the source code of mozilla,so i can not > use port. Then you need to have more knowledge of what you're doing than the ports system requires. It looks like it's the configure script that fails, but you have shown very little of your problem a

Re: can't build teTeX port in FreeBSD 8.2 amd64

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:38:22AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:19:13 +0100, Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > > If you know of another tex project where teTeX fails, > > please send me the details. I'm keen to patch > > teTeX as far as possible with no major > > changes to TDS, i.e.

how to fix bad superblock

Hiya all After a hardrive let the smoke out last week, part of a 4 drive RAID array, I am now battling to get back into the array. I have replaced the bad drive and it has been rebuilt (Intel Matrix Raid on the motherboard). some partitions are ok but had lots of errors fsck fixed, others repo

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:49:03PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 07:30:00 -0400, Jerry wrote: > > I suggested several years ago, and I will re-suggest that FreeBSD start > > a program that would allow programmers to be paid to write code that > > either the regular contributors d

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 09:57:59 -0400, Jerry wrote: > There are so many fundamental problems with the "standards" concept. > For starters it limits or prevents basic product improvement or > development. It the wireless "A" protocol were to have been made a > standard then improvement on its deficienc

Re: groff && UTF-8

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:49:39PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > Hello, > > In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and > letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. > > I've now a project where it would fit really nicely. It's making > (Postscr

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Quoth per...@pluto.rain.com on Monday, 18 July 2011: > Joshua Isom wrote: > > On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo wrote: > > > On Sunday 17 July 2011 10:13:13 C. Bergstr??m wrote: > > >> I hope gnome does [go Linux-only].. Maybe then more > > >> people would forget about it and focus on making KDE

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:55 +0100 Frank Shute articulated: > I like Jerry's proposal. The FreeBSD Foundation should organise their > donations page so that you can donate to various different areas of > development like TUG do: > > https://www.tug.org/donate.html > > It should be at least split

Am I Missing A Compat Library?

I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do to remmediate. Ideas? -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundr

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 11:10:30 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:51:55 +0100 > Frank Shute articulated: > > > I like Jerry's proposal. The FreeBSD Foundation should organise their > > donations page so that you can donate to various different areas of > > development like TUG do: > > > >

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 10:11:28 -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: > > avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 > > As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do to remmediate. Seems to originate from Unicode support. Th

/usr/ports/textproc/flex port didn't replace existing flex install

I'm running: FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 I need to update flex for building postgresql-9.0.3 from source. I installed the latest port (flex-2.5.35_4) fro

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11:28AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: > > avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 > > As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do to remmediate. Have you updated your ports recently?

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

On 7/18/2011 11:23 AM, Roland Smith said this: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11:28AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: >> >> avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses libicui18n.so.46 >> >> As I've never seen this before, I'm unclear on what to do t

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:35:33AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 7/18/2011 11:23 AM, Roland Smith said this: > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 10:11:28AM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > >> I just ran pkg_libchk and got this: > >> > >> avahi-app-0.6.29: /usr/local/lib/libavahi-glib.so.1 misses > >> libi

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 07/18/2011 06:50 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > The issue your talking about is actually caused by a fundamental flaw > in *ALL* pure open source projects namely in return for the freedom to > look at the code and stuff we give up market forces. Perhaps the benefits inherent in enriching the globa

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: > > But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at glib > and dbus, and check that it is linked to the right libicu? ('ldd > /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0' and 'ldd /usr/local/lib/libdbus-glib-1.so.2') > > If that is not t

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

In the last episode (Jul 18), Tim Daneliuk said: > On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: > > But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at > > glib and dbus, and check that it is linked to the right libicu? ('ldd > > /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0' and 'ldd > >

Re: /usr/ports/textproc/flex port didn't replace existing flex install

On 18-7-2011 17:49, Jeff Hamann wrote: > I'm running: > > FreeBSD freebsd-82-amd64.localdomain 8.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 8.2-RELEASE #0: Thu > Feb 17 02:41:51 UTC 2011 > r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 > > I need to update flex for building postgresql-9.0.3 from sou

Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Howard Jones wrote: > On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: > > Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to > Linux (Debian and CentOS), to get away from the packaging/ports mess :-) > I've been spoilt by apt-get and yum and firs

Re: [freebsd-questions] Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 18/07/2011 19:18, Adam Vande More wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:24 AM, Howard Jones > wrote: On 18/07/2011 11:14, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: Interesting - I'm in the process of switching our FreeBSD servers to Linux (Debian and CentOS), to get away fro

FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

Hey everyone, I have a FBSD 8.2 install. I've been trying to mount DOS formatted floppy disks via a USB floppy drive, and have been getting the following error every time: cannot mount /dev/da0: invalid argument I was curious to see what would happen if I created a UFS filesystem on the fl

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Using primarily FreeBSD, and in fact, still FreeBSD 4.11 (we are in the process of upgrading to 8.x now), our systems moved well over 1.6 trillion dollars in business to business financial transactions last year. I'd hardly call that irrelevant. On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote: > While I usu

Re: FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

On Monday 18 July 2011 19:45:27 James Colannino wrote: > > newfs /dev/da0 > > It was successful. I then tried to mount the new filesystem (mount > /dev/da0 /mnt), and got the same error: invalid argument. Does FBSD > have a problem mounting USB floppy disks? It's not a big deal, as my > other

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

> Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:00:49 +0200 > From: Jerome Herman > Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Message-ID: <4e242071.9050...@dichotomia.fr> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > On 17/07/201

Re: FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 19:57:02 +0100, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: > On Monday 18 July 2011 19:45:27 James Colannino wrote: > > > > newfs /dev/da0 > > > > It was successful. I then tried to mount the new filesystem (mount > > /dev/da0 /mnt), and got the same error: invalid argument. Does FBSD > > hav

Re: FBSD 8.2 and USB Floppies

On 07/18/11 11:57, Pegasus Mc Cleaft wrote: On Monday 18 July 2011 19:45:27 James Colannino wrote: newfs /dev/da0 It was successful. I then tried to mount the new filesystem (mount /dev/da0 /mnt), and got the same error: invalid argument. Does FBSD have a problem mounting USB floppy disks? I

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

From: "per...@pluto.rain.com" To: jri...@gmail.com; cbergst...@pathscale.com Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Mon, July 18, 2011 9:05:47 AM Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore Joshua Isom wrote: > On 7/17/2011 6:16 PM, Mario Lobo w

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Hey Mr(s) freebsd-questions show some good to me! 2011/07/18 12:26:08 -0700 Bill Tillman => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : BT> BT> BT> From: "per...@pluto.rain.com" BT> To: jri...@gmail.com; cbergst...@pathscale.com BT> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org BT>

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

I've always been curious why "Linux" seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not just on the desktop, but servers as well. "Supported" versions of Linux such as RHEL, Suse, etc. seem t

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't > be able to view the digital pictures you took with a > camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided > to use a proprietary image format without any documentation, > as you

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:02:53PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: > On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: > > > > > But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at glib > > and dbus, and check that it is linked to the right libicu? ('ldd > > /usr/local/lib/libglib-2.0

Re: Am I Missing A Compat Library?

On 7/18/2011 3:15 PM, Roland Smith said this: > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 01:02:53PM -0500, Tim Daneliuk wrote: >> On 7/18/2011 12:43 PM, Roland Smith said this: >> >>> >>> But I _don't_ get this linker error. Just a thought, but have a look at glib >>> and dbus, and check that it is linked to

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: > > > I've always been curious why "Linux" seemed to take off so fast when > other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not > much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. > > Not just on the desktop, but servers

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:48:46 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:58:08 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > > Here the circle closes: Without STANDARDS, you wouldn't > > be able to view the digital pictures you took with a > > camera 10 years ago because the manufacturer decided > > to use

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

--On July 18, 2011 2:44:15 PM -0500 Gary Gatten wrote: I've always been curious why "Linux" seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not just on the desktop, but servers as well. "Supp

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 07/17/2011 04:10, Jerry wrote: While I usually consider Slashdot nothing more than a bunch of juveniles ranting against Microsoft; however, I did find this rather interesting post this morning. "Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore"

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:22:45 -0400, Jerry wrote: > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 > Gary Gatten articulated: > > > > > > > I've always been curious why "Linux" seemed to take off so fast when > > other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not > > much traction; OS/2, Be

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 15:32:25 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > In short, some people chase the newest shiniest thing. Others prefer to > stick with what works. Often, the newest shiniest folks, after they've > gained some wisdom, move to the other camp. So you could well see a > resurgence of BSD

Re: groff && UTF-8

Hi Matthias Sorry, I cant help on the OCR, though I had a quick try eith /usr/ports/graphics/claraocr > In the '90 I have used for a lot of my internal and external papers and > letter the groff suite (gtbl, groff, ...) with good results. Me too. I still do. FYI here is my bsd make macro set

Using csup and -i switch

Hello, I updated all my ports recently but I have submitted a PR for audio/musicpd for a simple patch. I would like to update only my audio/musicpd on all my machines so I tried the following: markand@Groseille ~ $ sudo csup -i audio/musicpd /etc/ports-supfile Connected to 193.51.24.2 Updatin

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 07/18/2011 01:32 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: --On July 18, 2011 2:44:15 PM -0500 Gary Gatten wrote: I've always been curious why "Linux" seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 18/07/2011 22:22, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 Gary Gatten articulated: I've always been curious why "Linux" seemed to take off so fast when other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for some time with not much traction; OS/2, BeOS, *nix with X11, etc. Not just on t

Does 8.2 support USB 3.0?

Sounds like a stupid question to me but I have three motherboards that aren't happy with USB 3.0 regardless of settings, including: * Gigabyte EX58-UD5, * ASUS Rampage III Extreme, and * ASUS Crosshair V Formula. "Happy" means a variety of things: * Sometimes it doesn't like my USB 3.0 stic

Re: BSD: Relevant , Lennart Poettering Isn't Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:42 PM, Jerome Herman wrote: > On 18/07/2011 22:22, Jerry wrote: > >> On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 14:44:15 -0500 >> Gary Gatten articulated: >> >> >>> >>> I've always been curious why "Linux" seemed to take off so fast when >>> other FOSS / non Winblow$ OS's were available for s

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

Robert Bonomi wrote: All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of whether a specific copy is "legal", i.e. did the user who put it there have the legal right to put it there? _

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Anton Shterenlikht wrote: > We are pleased to announce a call for project proposals. > We will accept proposals until February 15th. Please > read Project Proposal Procedures to find out what > needs to be included in your proposal. > *end quote* > > Is this not what you want? This seems to be a

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what the relationship is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if they were to somehow join forces, share development load, etc. and "unify" the FreeBSD offerings under one roof; ie: PC-BSD and SERVER-BSD. I believe several flavors of Li

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On 19/07/2011 01:21, Gary Gatten wrote: This may get me flamed (probably will) but I'm wondering what the relationship is between FreeBSD and PC-BSD? PERHAPS if they were to somehow join forces, share development load, etc. and "unify" the FreeBSD offerings under one roof; ie: PC-BSD and SE

Re: BSD: Relevant , Lennart Poettering Isn't Anymore

On Monday 18 July 2011 19:04:55 Outback Dingo wrote: > > Sorry Guys.. I just had to nail down the Subject Topic and correct > it > YEAH Thanks! -- Mario Lobo http://www.mallavoodoo.com.br FreeBSD since 2.2.8 [not Pro-Audio YET!!] (99% winblows FREE)

RE: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

> -Original Message- > From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Robison, Dave > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 10:53 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore > > Using pri

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

> "perryh" == perryh writes: perryh> All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or perryh> with particular content, but it doesn't address the question of perryh> whether a specific copy is "legal", i.e. did the user who put it perryh> there have the legal right to put it t

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Hi; First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to "disturb" the debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and intel

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200 Polytropon articulated: > Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text > that predicts the future of CDs - a text from the late 80's. > When we consider what we are _currently_ using, the text > predicting "no important future for CDs" looks quite funn

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

Hi; First of all, forgive me for top posting but I don't want to "disturb" the debate between Jerry and Polytropon. In fact, I enjoyed it so much that I saved it in separate folder. It is just plain good reading, not only because of the issue at hand, but also because of the elegance and intell

FreeBSD 8.2 Xorg and Raedon HD 6850

I read the information on FreeBSD.org about the 6850 and I think I am confused. I have an HP Envy 3D 17" laptop with this video adapter. First, it appears there may be limited support for this card. The bottom line seems to be "Try Radeon Driver then the Vesa Driver." On the Xorg site, there is

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700 > From: per...@pluto.rain.com > Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) > > Robert Bonomi wrote: > > > > All well and good for locating files of a certain format and/or > with particular content, but it doesn't address the questio

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 04:22:45PM -0400, Jerry wrote: > > I think the explanation is rather simple, "Give the user what he wants, > not what you think he wants." You are never going to satisfy every > conceivable user, so concentrate on the core users. Microsoft has done > that extremely well. On

Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore

> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:01:20 -0400 > From: Jerry > Subject: Re: Lennart Poettering: BSD Isn't Relevant Anymore > > On Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:31:41 +0200 > Polytropon articulated: > > > Your TV example is very good. I've recently read a text > > that predicts the future of CDs - a text from the

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:01:53 -0700 >> From: per...@pluto.rain.com >> Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) >> >> Robert Bonomi wrote: >> >> >> >> All well and good for locating files of a certain format a

Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc )

> From edi...@d3photography.com Tue Jul 19 00:05:30 2011 > Subject: Re: Tools to find "unlegal" files ( videos , music etc ) > From: Ryan Coleman > Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 00:05:27 -0500 > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > To: Robert Bonomi > > > On Jul 18, 2011, at 10:23 PM, Robert Bonomi wrot

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