freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
Hi, I have FreeBSD 9.0 (p4) with custom kernel. uname -i says it: HOMEWIFI90 However, when I run freebsd-update fetch command it would like to update my kernel as well: freebsd-update fetch Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 9.0-RELEASE

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Alexandre
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Denis piloy...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have FreeBSD 9.0 (p4) with custom kernel. uname -i says it: HOMEWIFI90 However, when I run freebsd-update fetch command it would like to update my kernel as well: freebsd-update fetch Looking up

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
Hi Alexandre, Have you rebuilt your custom kernel after ? This is described in the Handbook in the section 25.2.2 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Yes, I rebuilt my custom kernel after. But this doesn't help - every time I run

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Sun, 19 Aug 2012 19:43:14 -0400 Michael Powell articulated: {snip} Keep in mind whenever you install a new kernel your present kernel (and its matching modules) get moved to kernel.old. What this means is that the GENERIC you have with a base install will be moved to kernel.old and can be

Re: I Can Has Packages?

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:38:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: I always keep saying the ideal situation would be that you could customise and compile just your own really mission critical software and freely mix that with installing pre-compiled packages of anything else from the public

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:37:40 +0400, Denis wrote: Hi Alexandre, Have you rebuilt your custom kernel after ? This is described in the Handbook in the section 25.2.2 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/updating-upgrading-freebsdupdate.html Yes, I rebuilt my custom

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
Then why not follow my suggestion of _letting_ freebsd-update update the kernel, but _use_ a different one instead which it won't touch? In /boot/loader.conf: kernel=mykernel bootfile=/boot/mykernel/kernel Now freebsd-update can happily alter the default kernel without

re: adding Mercurial CA Certificates

2012-08-20 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
How do I add an CA Certificate for Mercurial on FreeBSD please? :; uname -a FreeBSD box2 9.0-RELEASE-p4 FreeBSD 9.0-RELEASE-p4 #0: Fri Aug 17 21:53:39 EEST 2012 root@box2:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 :; pkg_info -xc mercurial | sed 1q Information for mercurial-2.3: Thanks.

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Michael Powell wrote on Sun 19.Aug'12 at 19:43:14 -0400 == Keep in mind whenever you install a new kernel your present kernel (and its matching modules) get moved to kernel.old. What this means is that the GENERIC you have with a base install will be moved to kernel.old and can be used

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Jerry wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 8:11:17 -0400 == I inquired several years ago about the possibility of changing the renaming format into something like: kernel_##_YY-MM-DD.old. The ## would be incremented with each successive build on a given day. I thought it would alleviate just the

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:13:44 +0100, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: == Michael Powell wrote on Sun 19.Aug'12 at 19:43:14 -0400 == Keep in mind whenever you install a new kernel your present kernel (and its matching modules) get moved to kernel.old. What this means is that the GENERIC you have

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Robert Huff
Polytropon writes: Very good point! I'd clear the /usr/src/obj directory as pointed out, then build a generic kenel, install it and boot from it. Then you know you've got a working kernel to fall back on. You could then make a copy of that kernel, e. g. from its initial

Re: Issue with kernel building

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 09:46:30 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: Polytropon writes: Very good point! I'd clear the /usr/src/obj directory as pointed out, then build a generic kenel, install it and boot from it. Then you know you've got a working kernel to fall back on. You could then

Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread jb
Hi, here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's view) on Linux developments: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820 Reader Comments 1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 2012-08-20 10:11:39 GMT from France) Much has been said on the subject of Systemd. Let me quote

Re: I Can Has Packages?

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Polytropon wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 14:22:45 +0200 == On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 06:38:33 +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote: I always keep saying the ideal situation would be that you could customise and compile just your own really mission critical software and freely mix that with installing

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== Denis wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 16:41:56 +0400 == Then why not follow my suggestion of _letting_ freebsd-update update the kernel, but _use_ a different one instead which it won't touch? In /boot/loader.conf: kernel=mykernel bootfile=/boot/mykernel/kernel Now

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Felder
Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice we've survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very good reading for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's worth mentioning that this is snowballing quickly. I used to really like some Linux

Re: freebsd-update fetch trying to update custom kernel

2012-08-20 Thread Denis
If you're building your own customised kernel, why don't you just build the entire system from source? I've not used freebsd-update yet and probably won't. Is it just a matter of time, i.e. waiting for the compilation to finish? Actually I built this system from source. And now use

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:09:12 + (UTC) jb articulated: here is an interesting comment (basically echoing other people's view) on Linux developments: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20120820 Reader Comments 1 o Arch and systemd (by Microlinux on 2012-08-20 10:11:39 GMT from France

doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa games/doom: http://pastebin.com/XdrCwzvn

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:32 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen:

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Walter Hurry
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:32 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen:

Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John Levine
I have a fully patche amd64 freebsd 8.3 server with apache 2.2 and PHP 5.4.5. In the past day, php scripts have started failing with a variety of random errors, they hang, errors claiming that builtins like require_once() are not found, and other stuff. I don't see any pattern. I also can't

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote: Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa MIDI load

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Yuri Pankov
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 21:24:32 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen:

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Polytropon wrote: Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g.

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Walter Hurry wrote: prboom works flawlessly on my FreeBSD9 laptop. Wow! This one really works and looks like the good old Doom, music and sound and all. Thank you Walter! -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:suda...@sibptus.tomsk.ru ___

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread jb
Jerry jerry at seibercom.net writes: However, the influence of their employer is so big that these products are forced upon the wider UNIX community and at some point it will be assimilate or die. ... Personally, I embrace progress. Even if there are ten failures in a row, that one

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Michael Powell
Mark Felder wrote: Those in on the core teams here are very well aware. Did you notice we've survived this long without ALSA? :-) However, this is very good reading for anyone who hasn't looked at Linux lately, and it's worth mentioning that this is snowballing quickly. I used to really like

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Yuri Pankov wrote: Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? None of those I have tried work for a number of irritating reasons, like e.g. games/uhexen: http://pastebin.com/ZaJ74eaa games/doom:

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote: [dd] Which port is it? make search key=lsdldoom finds nothing. Oh, it's doomlegacy. Thanks, will look at it. I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, and Jedi Knight II via wine. Oh, is there really nothing native? No, that game is far too

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Polytropon
On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:46:40 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Polytropon wrote: I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, and Jedi Knight II via wine. Oh, is there really nothing native? No, that game is far too old, but Quake and Quake 2 have ports (to native FreeBSD) which

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Warren Block
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012, Victor Sudakov wrote: Colleagues, Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on 9.0-STABLE (amd64)? games/ioquake3 games/ioquake3-devel games/openarena ___

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread RW
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 20:09:15 +0200 Polytropon wrote: I'm not sure if wine can run those native DOS games, but the big virtualisation software (VirtualBox, VMWare) should be able to emulate a PC, t You don't need to go that far, dosbox will run most dos games.

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Victor Sudakov
Polytropon wrote: I could also play Quake, Quake 2 from ports, and Jedi Knight II via wine. Oh, is there really nothing native? No, that game is far too old, but Quake and Quake 2 have ports (to native FreeBSD) which work very nicely with the original files from

Re: doom, quake, hexen...

2012-08-20 Thread Josh Tolbert
games/quake2max is a good one...At least it was years ago when I tried it. I see nothing in the Makefile that will prevent it from building on amd64. Cheers, Josh On 8/20/12 12:16 PM, Polytropon wrote: On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Polytropon wrote: Please

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 7:46 PM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: I have a fully patche amd64 freebsd 8.3 server with apache 2.2 and PHP 5.4.5. In the past day, php scripts have started failing with a variety of random errors, they hang, errors claiming that builtins like require_once()

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
I've done all the usual voodoo repair: I have rebuilt apache, php, and all the php modules from source, and rebooted, and it didn't help. Did you also rebuilt lang/php5-extensions for the modules you need? Uh, yes, I said that I did. Regards, John Levine, jo...@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
== jb wrote on Mon 20.Aug'12 at 17:40:40 + == The end effect is, they consciously want to screw up Linux and non-Linux (UNIX, *BSD, etc) ecosystems that opt not to follow them (read some additional comments that appeared in the meantime in the comments section of Distrowatch). This is

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:18 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: I've done all the usual voodoo repair: I have rebuilt apache, php, and all the php modules from source, and rebooted, and it didn't help. Did you also rebuilt lang/php5-extensions for the modules you need? Uh, yes, I

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:40:40 + (UTC) jb articulated: This is a bad thing for all UNIX or UNIX-like ecosystems, performed under the noble flag of progress to neutralize and fight opposition. Do you have any idea how idiotic that statement sounds? What are you planning on doing? Are you

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Robison, Dave
nice ad hominem screed On 08/20/2012 12:57, Jerry wrote: On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 17:40:40 + (UTC) jb articulated: This is a bad thing for all UNIX or UNIX-like ecosystems, performed under the noble flag of progress to neutralize and fight opposition. Do you have any idea how idiotic that

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
Then perhaps you should downgrade to lang/php53 and lang/php53-extensions and compare the results! Good thought, I just did that. Results: php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell php5.4: fails in random ways This suggests there is a bug in 5.4 which only is apparent on FreeBSD 8.x. I note

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Jerry
On 20 Aug 2012 16:46:13 - John Levine articulated: I have a fully patche amd64 freebsd 8.3 server with apache 2.2 and PHP 5.4.5. In the past day, php scripts have started failing with a variety of random errors, they hang, errors claiming that builtins like require_once() are not

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Odhiambo Washington
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 11:02 PM, John R. Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote: Then perhaps you should downgrade to lang/php53 and lang/php53-extensions and compare the results! Good thought, I just did that. Results: php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell php5.4: fails in random ways This

Re: Warning - FreeBSD (*BSD) entanglement in Linux ecosystem

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Felder
On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 14:57:14 -0500, je...@seibercom.net wrote: Support for FLASH basically sucks. Please stop trolling. I've been using flash with zero issues for 3 years. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: doom, quake, hexen

2012-08-20 Thread Tom Russo
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 06:28:57PM +, we recorded a bogon-computron collision of the free...@edvax.de flavor, containing: On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 00:05:17 +0700, Victor Sudakov wrote: Please advise if there are any 3D shooters in the ports collection which work out of the box on

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Mark Felder
Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with the latest. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
Good thought, I just did that. Results: php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell php5.4: fails in random ways This suggests there is a bug in 5.4 which only is apparent on FreeBSD 8.x. I note that the packages for 8.x have gone away on the distribution server, so I expect they're not

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread Michael Powell
John R. Levine wrote: Then perhaps you should downgrade to lang/php53 and lang/php53-extensions and compare the results! Good thought, I just did that. Results: php5.3: works fine as far as I can tell php5.4: fails in random ways This suggests there is a bug in 5.4 which only is

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John R. Levine
Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with the latest. Hmmn, that might have been it. I backed down to 5.3, but when I have a chance I'll try 5.4 again without APC. R's, John

mail(1) ~R and REPLYTO

2012-08-20 Thread Anton Shterenlikht
mail(1) man page says: ~R string Use string as the Reply-To field. However, this doesn't seem to work for me. Hitting ~R doesn't have any effect at all. The man page also has: REPLYTO If set, will be used to initialize the Reply-To field for outgo- ing

Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread Locksmith
I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. -- View this message in context:

Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread Aaron Kaufman
On 6:56:26PM, Locksmith ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com wrote: I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. The handbook is always a good

Re: Apache 2.2 and php 5.4.5 failing on freebsd 8.3

2012-08-20 Thread John Levine
Are you running pecl-APC? If so, what version? There's a major issue with the latest. Hmmn, that might have been it. I backed down to 5.3, but when I have a chance I'll try 5.4 again without APC. Tried it without APC, didn't help. We're back to the theory that there's something in PHP

Building a computer for FreeBSD

2012-08-20 Thread Tyler Campbell
Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just read through the hardware list? Tyler Tri-State Safe and Lock 570-832-0277___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list

Re: Building a computer for FreeBSD

2012-08-20 Thread Adam Vande More
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 9:43 PM, Tyler Campbell ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com wrote: Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just read through the hardware list? Usually everything works on standard consumer hardware...defer to big name where possible eg intel.

Re: Building a FreeBSD desktop.

2012-08-20 Thread James D. Parra
I was looking to build a desktop to learn FreeBSD and was wondering if there is a list of parts to build one or to just look at the hardware comparability list? I just don't want to order wrong parts. If don't want to make the full commitment to building a desktop, a

Re: Building a computer for FreeBSD

2012-08-20 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2012 22:43:35 -0400 Tyler Campbell ty...@tristatesafeandlock.com wrote: Is there a list of parts for building a personal computer or do you just read through the hardware list? if you use big names like Asus, nothing should go wrong. I would avoid Intel's integrated