Re: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread parv
in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, wrote Rob2
thusly...
>
> Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from
> Nvidia and I don't know where it went on my computer.
> 
> I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just
> to rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant
> and complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when
> I bought my Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.

Throw it my way, i will see what i can do w/ it...  on the second
thought, now that 3 years of warranty has ended on my Dell i5000e
and a few days ago was having w/ startup (as in *no* response on
pressing the power button), i am not sure i would want anoter Dell
...


  - Parv

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Re: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread HOLLOW, CHRISTOPHER
The name of this list is FreeBSD-Questions.  U, do you have a question?

Chris

Rob2 wrote:

I can't even log in without permission errors, yet all the files in my 
home directory are rob.rob permissions.  I end up at the root 
directory where all homeless users end up

Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from Nvidia 
and I don't know where it went on my computer.

I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just to 
rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant and 
complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when I bought 
my  Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.

Rob

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Re: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Jerry McAllister

> 
> On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:43:22PM -0500, Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > 
> > > I've heard that Sony and Dell don't support UNIX permissions on their
> > > proprietary hard drives. Stick with WinXP for now until a patch is committed
> > > into the source tree.
> > 
> > That doesn't make any sense.   No hard drive vendor "supports UNIX
> 
> Uh... Jerry, I think the "UNIX permissions" remark is a joke.
> 

I suppose.   
Kind of a sick troll, huh.

jerry

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Re: I'm really upset with my new computer'

2004-02-09 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 09:41:07AM -0800, Rob2 wrote:
> I can't even log in without permission errors, yet all the files in my 
> home directory are rob.rob permissions.  I end up at the root directory 
> where all homeless users end up
> 

What about permissions on /home, /usr, /usr/home?  And the owner has
permissions to read, write, and execute?  What fs is the partition.

> Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from Nvidia 
> and I don't know where it went on my computer.

Can't help you much there, it depends on where you told it to save it
as, though if you used mozilla to d/l it, you can try d/ling another
file and see what directory mozilla tries to save it in.  I've used that
trick before when I forgot to tell it to save it in the right location.

> 
> I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just to 
> rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant and 
> complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when I bought my 
>  Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.

If you really want help with this, it would be nice if you asked with a
little less whining and trying to tell us how well XP is working doesn't
help much either.  If FreeBSD was worked as flawless and easy as XP in
the areas where XP is better than there would be no reason for anyone to
use XP anymore and the world would convert to FreeBSD.

> 
> Rob
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Re: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Kenneth Culver
Quoting "Loren M. Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:09:15PM -0500, Craig Reyenga wrote:
I've heard that Sony and Dell don't support UNIX permissions on their
proprietary hard drives. Stick with WinXP for now until a patch is committed
into the source tree.
I'm a little confused on how a hd from dell or sony could prevent unix
permissions from working as any hd with store whatever kind of data you
tell it, they no nothing about what that data means.  The UNIX
permissions are handled entirely in software.  I've never heard of any
kind of problem like this before, perhaps you could enlighten me?
If I'm not mistaken, he was joking.

Ken
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RE: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Wayne Sierke
Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > I've heard that Sony and Dell don't support UNIX
> permissions on their
> > proprietary hard drives. Stick with WinXP for now until a
> patch is committed
> > into the source tree.
>
> That doesn't make any sense.   No hard drive vendor "supports UNIX
> permissions" on their hard drives.  File permissions are completely
> a software thing and have little to do with the hardware underneath
>  - as long as the hardware works at all.
>
> Now, WinXP does NOT support UNIX file permissions...
> Ditch it and get a real OS!
>
> (I have FreeBSD installed on lots of Dell machines including the
>  one I am currently typing on and file permissions work just fine)

Ah, but did you ever check to see whether those machines had the
proprietary hard drives fitted!

;)

P.S. I think he's pulling someone's leg. Either that or he's had his
pulled. Mind you, maybe it's a vision of the future with the DMCA and
all...

Write error on multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINNT: This disk only
allows Microsoft file permissions to be written.

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Re: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Loren M. Lang
On Mon, Feb 09, 2004 at 02:09:15PM -0500, Craig Reyenga wrote:
> I've heard that Sony and Dell don't support UNIX permissions on their
> proprietary hard drives. Stick with WinXP for now until a patch is committed
> into the source tree.

I'm a little confused on how a hd from dell or sony could prevent unix
permissions from working as any hd with store whatever kind of data you
tell it, they no nothing about what that data means.  The UNIX
permissions are handled entirely in software.  I've never heard of any
kind of problem like this before, perhaps you could enlighten me?

> 
> -Craig
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rob2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:41 PM
> Subject: I'm really upset with my new computer
> 
> 
> > I can't even log in without permission errors, yet all the files in my
> > home directory are rob.rob permissions.  I end up at the root directory
> > where all homeless users end up
> >
> > Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from Nvidia
> > and I don't know where it went on my computer.
> >
> > I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just to
> > rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant and
> > complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when I bought my
> >   Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.
> >
> > Rob
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Re: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> I've heard that Sony and Dell don't support UNIX permissions on their
> proprietary hard drives. Stick with WinXP for now until a patch is committed
> into the source tree.

That doesn't make any sense.   No hard drive vendor "supports UNIX
permissions" on their hard drives.  File permissions are completely
a software thing and have little to do with the hardware underneath
 - as long as the hardware works at all.

Now, WinXP does NOT support UNIX file permissions...
Ditch it and get a real OS!

(I have FreeBSD installed on lots of Dell machines including the
 one I am currently typing on and file permissions work just fine)

jerry

> 
> -Craig
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Rob2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:41 PM
> Subject: I'm really upset with my new computer
> 
> 
> > I can't even log in without permission errors, yet all the files in my
> > home directory are rob.rob permissions.  I end up at the root directory
> > where all homeless users end up
> >
> > Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from Nvidia
> > and I don't know where it went on my computer.
> >
> > I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just to
> > rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant and
> > complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when I bought my
> >   Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.
> >
> > Rob
> >
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RE: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Jason Lavigne
This might help http://www.angermgmt.com/angertoolkit.html

Jay


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob2
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I'm really upset with my new computer

I can't even log in without permission errors, yet all the files in my 
home directory are rob.rob permissions.  I end up at the root directory 
where all homeless users end up

Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from Nvidia 
and I don't know where it went on my computer.

I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just to 
rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant and 
complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when I bought my

  Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.

Rob

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Re: I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Craig Reyenga
I've heard that Sony and Dell don't support UNIX permissions on their
proprietary hard drives. Stick with WinXP for now until a patch is committed
into the source tree.

-Craig


- Original Message -
From: "Rob2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:41 PM
Subject: I'm really upset with my new computer


> I can't even log in without permission errors, yet all the files in my
> home directory are rob.rob permissions.  I end up at the root directory
> where all homeless users end up
>
> Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from Nvidia
> and I don't know where it went on my computer.
>
> I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just to
> rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant and
> complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when I bought my
>   Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.
>
> Rob
>
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I'm really upset with my new computer

2004-02-09 Thread Rob2
I can't even log in without permission errors, yet all the files in my 
home directory are rob.rob permissions.  I end up at the root directory 
where all homeless users end up

Nvidia video doesn't work.  I downloaded the latest binary from Nvidia 
and I don't know where it went on my computer.

I'm just having a bad day.  BTW Win XP is working flawlessly, just to 
rub it in.  This is Dell 8600 laptop.  I just needed to rant and 
complain.  It will get figured out in time.  I remember when I bought my 
 Sony laptop I had a whole crop of similar problems.

Rob

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