Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-07 Thread William

dual port.

Regards,

Will

On 07/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If it works then let it alone.

What model of PT card did you get?  The single-port one?

Ted

- Original Message -
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Thanks Ted,
>
> Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
> installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
> a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
> cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..
>
>
> dmesg goodness:
> em0:  port
> 0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
> at device 0.0 on pci2
> em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
> em1:  port
> 0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
> at device 0.1 on pci2
> em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19
>
> Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
> recompile anyway?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Will
>
>
> On 06/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Go here:
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/
> >
> > click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
> > other than LICENSE and README
> >
> > right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
> > from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy
disk,
> > take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and
recompile
> > the kernel.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Ted,
> > >
> > > Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
> > > early mornings and information overload.
> > >
> > > Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
> > > I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
> > > latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and
making
> > > > things very
> > > > hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll
throw my
> > > > hands up in
> > > > the air
> > > >
> > > > The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be
accessible,
> > > > MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
> > > >
> > > > BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
> > > >
> > > > The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
> > full-height
> > > > PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
> > factory
> > > > and it comes with the server.
> > > >
> > > > The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
> > > > PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
> > > > factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
> > slot.
> > > > It
> > > > works with FBSD 6.1
> > > >
> > > > The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
> > slot.
> > > > It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
> > > >
> > > > You can either do ONE of the following:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.
This
> > works
> > > > out
> > > > of box with FBSD 6.1
> > > >
> > > > 2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
> > server.
> > > > This DOES
> > > > NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current
d

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-07 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
If it works then let it alone.

What model of PT card did you get?  The single-port one?

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Thanks Ted,
>
> Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
> installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
> a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
> cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..
>
>
> dmesg goodness:
> em0:  port
> 0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
> at device 0.0 on pci2
> em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
> em1:  port
> 0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
> at device 0.1 on pci2
> em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19
>
> Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
> recompile anyway?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Will
>
>
> On 06/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Go here:
> >
> > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/
> >
> > click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
> > other than LICENSE and README
> >
> > right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
> > from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy
disk,
> > take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and
recompile
> > the kernel.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Ted,
> > >
> > > Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
> > > early mornings and information overload.
> > >
> > > Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
> > > I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.
> > >
> > > Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
> > > latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Will
> > >
> > > On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and
making
> > > > things very
> > > > hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll
throw my
> > > > hands up in
> > > > the air
> > > >
> > > > The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be
accessible,
> > > > MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
> > > >
> > > > BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
> > > >
> > > > The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
> > full-height
> > > > PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
> > factory
> > > > and it comes with the server.
> > > >
> > > > The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
> > > > PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
> > > > factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
> > slot.
> > > > It
> > > > works with FBSD 6.1
> > > >
> > > > The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
> > slot.
> > > > It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
> > > >
> > > > You can either do ONE of the following:
> > > >
> > > > 1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.
This
> > works
> > > > out
> > > > of box with FBSD 6.1
> > > >
> > > > 2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
> > server.
> > > > This DOES
> > > > NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current
driver
> > for
> > > > this to work.
> > > >
> > > > Y

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-06 Thread Antony Mawer

On 6/07/2006 4:26 PM, William wrote:

Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..


dmesg goodness:
em0:  port
0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
at device 0.0 on pci2
em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
em1:  port
0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
at device 0.1 on pci2
em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19

Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
recompile anyway?



It sounds like you were lucky with your card -- we tried a 6.1 
installation and it did not detect our Intel Pro/1000PT card, while the 
7-CURRENT driver did. A back-port of the 7-CURRENT driver looked 
relatively non-trivial, but the Intel driver for 6.x saved the day.


If it's all working properly, then you should be right to continue with 
the 6.1 driver you are currently using. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it"!


Cheers
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-05 Thread William

Thanks Ted,

Server got here, FreeBSD 6.1 went on easy as you like and then I
installed the intel card when it got here... I havent had to recompile
a thing and its detected the card fine. I've appied an IP address,
cvsup/install a few ports without any issues..


dmesg goodness:
em0:  port
0x4000-0x401f mem 0xfdee-0xfdef,0xfdec-0xfded irq 16
at device 0.0 on pci2
em0: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:18
em1:  port
0x4020-0x403f mem 0xfdea-0xfdeb,0xfde8-0xfde9 irq 17
at device 0.1 on pci2
em1: Ethernet address: 00:15:17:0b:e6:19

Should I grab the latest copy of the driver (off intel's website) and
recompile anyway?

Cheers,

Will


On 06/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Go here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/

click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
other than LICENSE and README

right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy disk,
take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and recompile
the kernel.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Ted,
>
> Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
> early mornings and information overload.
>
> Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
> I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.
>
> Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
> latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?
>
> Regards,
>
> Will
>
> On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
> > things very
> > hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
> > hands up in
> > the air
> >
> > The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
> > MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
> >
> > BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
> >
> > The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
full-height
> > PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
factory
> > and it comes with the server.
> >
> > The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
> > PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
> > factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
> >
> >
> > The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
slot.
> > It
> > works with FBSD 6.1
> >
> > The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
slot.
> > It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
> >
> > You can either do ONE of the following:
> >
> > 1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This
works
> > out
> > of box with FBSD 6.1
> >
> > 2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
server.
> > This DOES
> > NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver
for
> > this to work.
> >
> > You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the
server.
> >
> > You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
> > riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
> > height PCI-X slot ONLY.
> >
> > Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this
to
> > you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
> > > PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
> > > then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.
> > >
> > > On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card
from HP
> > and
> > > > replace the PCI-Express riser card tha

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Go here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/em/

click on the file you want.  You will probably need all the files there
other than LICENSE and README

right-click download, save to disk, copy to your running freebsd system,
from that system copy to freebsd-formatted floppy disk, unmount floppy disk,
take disk to dl320, mount disk, copy to /usr/src/sys/dev/em/ and recompile
the kernel.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Ted,
>
> Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
> early mornings and information overload.
>
> Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
> I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.
>
> Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
> latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?
>
> Regards,
>
> Will
>
> On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
> > things very
> > hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
> > hands up in
> > the air
> >
> > The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
> > MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.
> >
> > BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.
> >
> > The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a
full-height
> > PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the
factory
> > and it comes with the server.
> >
> > The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
> > PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
> > factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.
> >
> >
> > The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express
slot.
> > It
> > works with FBSD 6.1
> >
> > The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X
slot.
> > It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.
> >
> > You can either do ONE of the following:
> >
> > 1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This
works
> > out
> > of box with FBSD 6.1
> >
> > 2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the
server.
> > This DOES
> > NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver
for
> > this to work.
> >
> > You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the
server.
> >
> > You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
> > riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
> > height PCI-X slot ONLY.
> >
> > Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this
to
> > you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
> > > PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
> > > then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.
> > >
> > > On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card
from HP
> > and
> > > > replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the
> > PCI-X
> > > > riser card.
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: ; "Ted Mittelstaedt"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a
320?
> > > > >
> > > &g

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-04 Thread William

Ted,

Apoligises for being difficult, I must be suffering from my super
early mornings and information overload.

Thank you for explaining it, my dealer has picked up on the fact that
I'll require the PT instead of MT card that I suggested.

Thanks again for your help, what would be the best way of grabbing the
latest driver for em for the 1000PT card?

Regards,

Will

On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
things very
hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
hands up in
the air

The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.

BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.

The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a full-height
PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the factory
and it comes with the server.

The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.


The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express slot.
It
works with FBSD 6.1

The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X slot.
It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.

You can either do ONE of the following:

1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This works
out
of box with FBSD 6.1

2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the server.
This DOES
NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver for
this to work.

You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the server.

You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
height PCI-X slot ONLY.

Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this to
you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
> PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
> then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.
>
> On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP
and
> > replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the
PCI-X
> > riser card.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: ; "Ted Mittelstaedt"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?
> > >
> > > On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
> > > > >> Antony,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box,
the
> > > > >> code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port
Server
> > > > >> Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
> > > > >
> > > > > That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is
supported
> > > > > by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
> > > > >
> > > > > The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is
not
> > > > > supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
> > > > > be supported by the driver available from Intel.
> > > >
> > > > If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
> > > > Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be
something
> > > > like be this:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel
source
> > > > 2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still
not
> > > > available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
> > > > 3. Bu

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I think your trying to second-guess very simple instructions and making
things very
hard for yourself.  I'll try to explain one last time then I'll throw my
hands up in
the air

The HP DL320 G4 slots, whether PCI-X or PCI Express, to be accessible,
MUST USE A RISER CARD.  HP has TWO different riser cards available.

BOTH riser cards have TWO slots, a half-height and a full height.

The first riser card has a half-height PCI-Express slot, and a full-height
PCI Express slot.  This is the riser card that is supplied by the factory
and it comes with the server.

The second riser card is OPTIONAL and it contains a half-height
PCI-Express slot and a full-height PCI-X slot.  It REPLACES the
factory-supplied riser card, if you use it.


The Intel MT card is a PCI-X card.  It will not fit in a PCI Express slot.
It
works with FBSD 6.1

The Intel PT card is a PCI Express card.  It will not fit in a PCI-X slot.
It does not work with FBSD 6.1 unless you load the driver.

You can either do ONE of the following:

1) Use the Intel MT card with the optional HP PCI-X riser card.  This works
out
of box with FBSD 6.1

2) Use the Intel PT card with the HP riser card that ships with the server.
This DOES
NOT work out of the box with FBSD 6.1  You MUST load the current driver for
this to work.

You CANNOT USE the MT card with the riser card that ships with the server.

You CANNOT use a low-profile PCI-X card because the optional PCI-X
riser card DOES NOT HAVE a low profile PCI-X slot.  It has a standard
height PCI-X slot ONLY.

Incidentally the fact that your HP dealer cannot apparently explain this to
you pretty much means YOUR HP DEALER SUCKS THE BIG WEENIE.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
> PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
> then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.
>
> On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP
and
> > replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the
PCI-X
> > riser card.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: ; "Ted Mittelstaedt"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?
> > >
> > > On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
> > > > >> Antony,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box,
the
> > > > >> code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port
Server
> > > > >> Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
> > > > >
> > > > > That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is
supported
> > > > > by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
> > > > >
> > > > > The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is
not
> > > > > supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
> > > > > be supported by the driver available from Intel.
> > > >
> > > > If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
> > > > Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be
something
> > > > like be this:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel
source
> > > > 2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still
not
> > > > available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
> > > > 3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the
server
> > > > 4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
> > > > /usr/src/sys/dev/em/
> > > > 5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the
new
> > > > driver source (cd /usr/src && make buildkernel)
> > > > 6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)
> > > &

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-03 Thread William

Ok, I think its best I just order a Intel MT card with the low profile
PCI-X adapter instead of flapping about with these riser cards and
then just use 6-stable. All getting quite confusing.

On 04/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP and
replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the PCI-X
riser card.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ; "Ted Mittelstaedt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?
>
> On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
> > >> Antony,
> > >>
> > >> I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
> > >> code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
> > >> Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
> > >
> > > That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
> > > by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
> > >
> > > The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
> > > supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
> > > be supported by the driver available from Intel.
> >
> > If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
> > Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something
> > like be this:
> >
> > 1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
> > 2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not
> > available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
> > 3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
> > 4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
> > /usr/src/sys/dev/em/
> > 5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new
> > driver source (cd /usr/src && make buildkernel)
> > 6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)
> >
> > You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...
> >
> > Regards
> > Antony
> >
> >
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Correct, it will not fit - unless you order the PCI-X riser card from HP and
replace the PCI-Express riser card that ships with the 320 with the PCI-X
riser card.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: ; "Ted Mittelstaedt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?
>
> On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
> > >> Antony,
> > >>
> > >> I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
> > >> code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
> > >> Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
> > >
> > > That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
> > > by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
> > >
> > > The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
> > > supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
> > > be supported by the driver available from Intel.
> >
> > If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
> > Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something
> > like be this:
> >
> > 1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
> > 2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not
> > available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
> > 3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
> > 4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
> > /usr/src/sys/dev/em/
> > 5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new
> > driver source (cd /usr/src && make buildkernel)
> > 6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)
> >
> > You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...
> >
> > Regards
> > Antony
> >
> >
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-03 Thread William

Did you guys say the card I've got in another box wont fit into a 320?

On 03/07/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
>> Antony,
>>
>> I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
>> code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
>> Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
>
> That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
> by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,
>
> The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
> supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
> be supported by the driver available from Intel.

If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a
Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something
like be this:

1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not
available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)
3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into
/usr/src/sys/dev/em/
5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new
driver source (cd /usr/src && make buildkernel)
6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)

You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...

Regards
Antony



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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-02 Thread Antony Mawer

On 29/06/2006 9:27 PM, Erik Trulsson wrote:

On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:

Antony,

I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?


That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,

The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
be supported by the driver available from Intel.


If you wish to utilise the PCI Express expansion slots by using a 
Pro/1000 PT network adapter, the procedure to follow might be something 
like be this:


1. Install 6.1-RELEASE from CD, being sure to install the kernel source
2. Obtain the latest Intel driver for FreeBSD 6.x (if it is still not 
available on the website, email me and I will send it to you)

3. Burn the driver onto a CD or other media and copy it onto the server
4. Extract the driver source, and copy the if_em* files across into 
/usr/src/sys/dev/em/
5. Build a new kernel (GENERIC will suffice) which will utilise the new 
driver source (cd /usr/src && make buildkernel)

6. Install the kernel and reboot (make installkernel)

You should now have a working network with your Pro/1000 PT...

Regards
Antony

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
What I had to do is mount a floppy in a second machine, copy the broadcom
driver patch over to the floppy, then mount the floppy in the DL320 and
copy the driver to the system, recompile the kernel with the patched driver.

Once the initial patch for the Broadcom chip is made, it will give you
a usable enough network connection so that you can copy larger files
over without the server panicing, however without warning a file transfer
can halt due to the timeout problem.  So you still have to stand over it.

The easiest way is to buy the replacement PCI-X riser card and
use the Intel Pro 1000 MT Server adapter in it, then the system will
install and run out of the box.  But if you don't mind the floppy shuffle
you can save $30 on buying the replacement riser card and just go with
the PCI-Express riser card that comes with the system and the Intel
Pro 1000 PT Server adapter, and then when the system is installed,
copy the 7.1 driver over to it via a floppy, recompile the kernel, etc.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Bloody good point.
>
> On 01/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How will you cvsup without a network connection?
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:51 AM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
> > > install -STABLE from CD?
> > >
> > > On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
> > > > > I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box,
the
> > > > > code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port
Server
> > > > > Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
> > > >
> > > > The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work
unless
> > > > you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard
one
> > > > in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots
(1
> > > > half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
> > > > regular PCI). You will need to either:
> > > >
> > > >  1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
> > > >  (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)
> > > >
> > > >  2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work
with
> > > >  the standard driver in 6.x.
> > > >
> > > > Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know
the
> > > > PCI Express one definately does NOT.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver
and
> > > > rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
> > > > happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Antony
> > > >
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
How will you cvsup without a network connection?

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
> install -STABLE from CD?
>
> On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
> > > I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
> > > code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
> > > Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
> >
> > The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless
> > you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one
> > in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1
> > half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
> > regular PCI). You will need to either:
> >
> >  1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
> >  (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)
> >
> >  2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
> >  the standard driver in 6.x.
> >
> > Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the
> > PCI Express one definately does NOT.
> >
> > That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and
> > rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
> > happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.
> >
> > Regards
> > Antony
> >
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread William

Bloody good point.

On 01/07/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

How will you cvsup without a network connection?

Ted

- Original Message -
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
> install -STABLE from CD?
>
> On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
> > > I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
> > > code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
> > > Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?
> >
> > The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless
> > you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one
> > in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1
> > half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
> > regular PCI). You will need to either:
> >
> >  1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
> >  (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)
> >
> >  2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
> >  the standard driver in 6.x.
> >
> > Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the
> > PCI Express one definately does NOT.
> >
> > That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and
> > rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
> > happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.
> >
> > Regards
> > Antony
> >
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-07-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

- Original Message - 
From: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Antony Mawer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ted Mittelstaedt"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:07 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:
> > Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
> > might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
> > server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Will
>
> Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic
> across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case,
> the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting
> up was enough to do it within seconds.
>

The patch I posted to the PR database fixes that problem.  Unfortunately
there
is another problem with the broadcom driver that affects many different
broadcom
chipsets, it's a timeout error.  I gave up trying to find that one.  The
timeout
error only affects certain broadcom chips.

> I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this
> machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases
> will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).
>

You can order the PCI-X riser card for this server and use an Intel Pro 1000
MT Server
card and it will work out of the box with FreeBSD 6.1

Ted

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread William

Will i get the updated driver by just cvsup'ing to stable once I
install -STABLE from CD?

On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:
> I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
> code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
> Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?

The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless
you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one
in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1
half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or
regular PCI). You will need to either:

 1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
 (provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)

 2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
 the standard driver in 6.x.

Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the
PCI Express one definately does NOT.

That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and
rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be
happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.

Regards
Antony


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 07:56:00AM +0100, William wrote:
> Antony,
> 
> I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
> code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
> Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?

That is a PRO/1000 MT card, which is a PCI-X adapter and is supported
by the standard em(4) driver in FreeBSD 6.x,

The PRO/1000 PT mentioned below is a PCI-Express adapter and is not
supported by the standard driver in 6.x, but (as mentioned) should
be supported by the driver available from Intel.


Which card you want depends on what kind of expansion slot(s) you have
available.



> 
> On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:
> >> Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
> >> might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
> >> server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Will
> >
> >Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic
> >across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case,
> >the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting
> >up was enough to do it within seconds.
> >
> >I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this
> >machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases
> >will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).
> >
> >Regards
> >Antony
> >

-- 

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-30 Thread Antony Mawer

On 30/06/2006 4:56 PM, William wrote:

I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?


The adapter you mentioned is a PCI-X adapter, which won't work unless 
you purchase the optional PCI-X riser card to replace the standard one 
in the DL320 G4. The standard riser card provides PCI Express slots (1 
half height, 1 full height), that are not compatible with PCI-X (or 
regular PCI). You will need to either:


1) Purchase the PCI-X riser, and then use your existing card
(provided that FreeBSD 6.x will recognise it)

2) Purchase a PCI Express NIC, which will (likely) _not_ work with
the standard driver in 6.x.

Option 1 may or may not work with the standard 6.x driver; I know the 
PCI Express one definately does NOT.


That being said, it is _very_ simple to add the updated Intel driver and 
rebuild the kernel if you need to do so (for either option): I'd be 
happy to help you with the steps you need to do so if you require.


Regards
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-29 Thread William

Antony,

I've got an Intel card in production already on a homebrew box, the
code is INTEL-PWLA8492MT and description is "Intel Dual Port Server
Adapter 10/100/1000". Any idea if that will do?

On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:
> Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
> might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
> server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?
>
> Regards,
> Will

Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic
across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case,
the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting
up was enough to do it within seconds.

I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this
machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases
will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).

Regards
Antony


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-29 Thread Antony Mawer

On 30/06/2006 3:53 PM, William wrote:

Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?

Regards,
Will


Configure the network card (bge0) and then do something to pass traffic 
across the network (eg. ping another host on the network). In our case, 
the machine booting at startup and the various network services starting 
up was enough to do it within seconds.


I have a copy of the Intel driver we used if you are looking to run this 
machine on FreeBSD 6.0 or 6.1; the standard driver in these releases 
will not support the Pro/1000 PT (at least the card we used).


Regards
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-29 Thread William

Thanks for the email Antony, I'm awaiting delivery of the server so I
might have to order an intel card sharpish. What can I do the
server+fbsd 6.x to prove the lock up?

Regards,

Will

On 30/06/06, Antony Mawer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On 23/06/2006 6:24 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Out of the box the DL 320 G4 ships with a riser card that has 2 pci express
> slots.  At least that is what they are supposed to be, we haven't tried
> them.
...
> If you only do the pci express then the adapter you want is the Intel
> Pro 1000 PT  either the single port or the dual port, and make sure
> it is the "server adapter" not the "desktop adapter"  (the models carry
> the same model number but different descriptions, which is infuriating)

We ended up in this same situation, and went down the Intel PCI express
NIC path (Intel Pro/1000PT). Be advised that, at this stage, the driver
in both 6.0 and 6.1 -RELEASE does not support this card, but support is
present in 7-CURRENT.

That being said, with the official Intel driver (v6.0.5, not sure if
it's released yet), I was able to replace the standard em driver in 6.0,
build a new kernel, and bring the server up and survive some
pre-deployment load testing without any hiccups.

Be aware that while the riser card has two PCI Express slots, one is
half-height, and the Intel NICs (at least the one we received) are a
full card.

The onboard Broadcom NICs weren't worth the PCBs they were printed on in
terms of stability -- we were seeing the same hard lockups as Ted and
didn't have the luxury of time to spend fiddling with it!! From what I
gather from Ted's previous investigations, there's various work-arounds
in the Linux driver that work around some shortcomings in the hardware
itself...

Regards
Antony


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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-29 Thread Antony Mawer

On 23/06/2006 6:24 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Out of the box the DL 320 G4 ships with a riser card that has 2 pci express
slots.  At least that is what they are supposed to be, we haven't tried
them.

...

If you only do the pci express then the adapter you want is the Intel
Pro 1000 PT  either the single port or the dual port, and make sure
it is the "server adapter" not the "desktop adapter"  (the models carry
the same model number but different descriptions, which is infuriating)


We ended up in this same situation, and went down the Intel PCI express 
NIC path (Intel Pro/1000PT). Be advised that, at this stage, the driver 
in both 6.0 and 6.1 -RELEASE does not support this card, but support is 
present in 7-CURRENT.


That being said, with the official Intel driver (v6.0.5, not sure if 
it's released yet), I was able to replace the standard em driver in 6.0, 
build a new kernel, and bring the server up and survive some 
pre-deployment load testing without any hiccups.


Be aware that while the riser card has two PCI Express slots, one is 
half-height, and the Intel NICs (at least the one we received) are a 
full card.


The onboard Broadcom NICs weren't worth the PCBs they were printed on in 
terms of stability -- we were seeing the same hard lockups as Ted and 
didn't have the luxury of time to spend fiddling with it!! From what I 
gather from Ted's previous investigations, there's various work-arounds 
in the Linux driver that work around some shortcomings in the hardware 
itself...


Regards
Antony
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
You got 2 choices

Out of the box the DL 320 G4 ships with a riser card that has 2 pci express
slots.  At least that is what they are supposed to be, we haven't tried
them.

HP sells a riser card that has a single 64 bit PCI 133 slot on it.  You can
buy
that and replace the existing riser.

If you only do the pci express then the adapter you want is the Intel
Pro 1000 PT  either the single port or the dual port, and make sure
it is the "server adapter" not the "desktop adapter"  (the models carry
the same model number but different descriptions, which is infuriating)

If you do the riser card replacement then you can use a Pro 1000 MT
server adapter.

If you buy the optional hot-swap module (which I don't think works under
FreeBSD anyhow) then you have to buy the riser card with the pci 133 slot
since that module is not pci express.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Wow thats a total pain in the arse, I'll put it through some stress
> testing before it gets shipped.
>
> Can you reccomend a card?
>
> On 23/06/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > It is fine as long as you buy a 64 bit pc-express intel ethernet card.
> >
> > The patch I created makes the broadcom chip work without panicing
> > the kernel
> >
> > Unfortunately the chip periodically issues a timeout error message and
> > momentararily downs the interface.
> >
> > There are a number of complaints in the PR database about this
> > happening with this driver, with different models of the broadcom
> > chip in different machines.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> > > Hello again,
> > >
> > > Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
> > > now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
> > > an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > William
> > >
> > > On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try
to
> > > > bring it up.
> > > >
> > > > Ted
> > > >
> > > > >-Original Message-
> > > > >From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
> > > > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > > > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Hi Ted,
> > > > >
> > > > >Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?
> > > > >
> > > > >Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > >Will
> > > > >
> > > > >On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> Hi William,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
> > > > >> here:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Ted
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >-Original Message-
> > > > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
> > > > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
> > > > >> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > > > >> >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > > >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
> > > > >> >very small! :(
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under
6.1-RC1

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-23 Thread William

Wow thats a total pain in the arse, I'll put it through some stress
testing before it gets shipped.

Can you reccomend a card?

On 23/06/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


It is fine as long as you buy a 64 bit pc-express intel ethernet card.

The patch I created makes the broadcom chip work without panicing
the kernel

Unfortunately the chip periodically issues a timeout error message and
momentararily downs the interface.

There are a number of complaints in the PR database about this
happening with this driver, with different models of the broadcom
chip in different machines.

Ted

- Original Message -
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Hello again,
>
> Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
> now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
> an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?
>
> Regards,
>
> William
>
> On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to
> > bring it up.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
> > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Ted,
> > >
> > >Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Will
> > >
> > >On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Hi William,
> > >>
> > >>   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
> > >> here:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806
> > >>
> > >> Ted
> > >>
> > >> >-Original Message-
> > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
> > >> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > >> >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
> > >> >very small! :(
> > >> >
> > >> >On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
> > >> >> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
> > >> >> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
> > >> >> if it doesen't work.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ted
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >-Original Message-
> > >> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
> > >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
> > >> >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >> >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the
> > >dl320 g4? I've
> > >> >> >had a quote back on that model so could be near to
> > >actually getting
> > >> >> >some hardware for once :)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
> > >> >> >> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
> > >> >> >> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
> > >> >> >> a newer/different chipset in it.
> > >> >> >> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
> > >> >> >> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
> > >> >> >> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-23 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

It is fine as long as you buy a 64 bit pc-express intel ethernet card.

The patch I created makes the broadcom chip work without panicing
the kernel

Unfortunately the chip periodically issues a timeout error message and
momentararily downs the interface.

There are a number of complaints in the PR database about this
happening with this driver, with different models of the broadcom
chip in different machines.

Ted

- Original Message - 
From: "William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:16 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4


> Hello again,
>
> Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
> now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
> an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?
>
> Regards,
>
> William
>
> On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to
> > bring it up.
> >
> > Ted
> >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
> > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi Ted,
> > >
> > >Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?
> > >
> > >Cheers,
> > >
> > >Will
> > >
> > >On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> Hi William,
> > >>
> > >>   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
> > >> here:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806
> > >>
> > >> Ted
> > >>
> > >> >-Original Message-
> > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
> > >> >Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
> > >> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > >> >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
> > >> >very small! :(
> > >> >
> > >> >On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
> > >> >> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
> > >> >> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
> > >> >> if it doesen't work.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Ted
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >-Original Message-
> > >> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
> > >> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
> > >> >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >> >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the
> > >dl320 g4? I've
> > >> >> >had a quote back on that model so could be near to
> > >actually getting
> > >> >> >some hardware for once :)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
> > >> >> >> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
> > >> >> >> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
> > >> >> >> a newer/different chipset in it.
> > >> >> >> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
> > >> >> >> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
> > >> >> >> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
> > >> >> >> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
> > >> >> >> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
> >

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-06-21 Thread William

Hello again,

Sorry to dig this up again. I'm in the position to order the server
now and the DL320 is within our price range. Is everyone still having
an enjoyable experience running FreeBSD on the DL3XX G4 range?

Regards,

William

On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to
bring it up.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>Hi Ted,
>
>Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Will
>
>On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi William,
>>
>>   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
>> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>> >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
>> >very small! :(
>> >
>> >On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
>> >> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
>> >> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
>> >> if it doesen't work.
>> >>
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-Original Message-
>> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
>> >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the
>dl320 g4? I've
>> >> >had a quote back on that model so could be near to
>actually getting
>> >> >some hardware for once :)
>> >> >
>> >> >On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>> >> >> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>> >> >> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>> >> >> a newer/different chipset in it.
>> >> >> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>> >> >> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>> >> >> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>> >> >> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>> >> >> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> c ya ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Yes, for some reason the first nic locks the system up when you try to 
bring it up.

Ted

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>From: William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 2:39 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>Hi Ted,
>
>Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Will
>
>On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hi William,
>>
>>   I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
>> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>> >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
>> >very small! :(
>> >
>> >On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
>> >> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
>> >> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
>> >> if it doesen't work.
>> >>
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-Original Message-
>> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >> >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
>> >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the 
>dl320 g4? I've
>> >> >had a quote back on that model so could be near to 
>actually getting
>> >> >some hardware for once :)
>> >> >
>> >> >On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>> >> >> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>> >> >> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>> >> >> a newer/different chipset in it.
>> >> >> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>> >> >> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>> >> >> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>> >> >> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>> >> >> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> c ya ;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-05 Thread William

Hi Ted,

Great news! but as per your patch you can only use the second nic?

Cheers,

Will

On 05/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi William,

  I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806

Ted

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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
>very small! :(
>
>On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
>> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
>> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
>> if it doesen't work.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
>> >had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
>> >some hardware for once :)
>> >
>> >On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>> >> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>> >> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>> >> a newer/different chipset in it.
>> >> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>> >> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>> >> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>> >> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>> >> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>> >>
>> >> c ya ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi William,

  I was able to create a patch that fixed the problem, see
here:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=96806

Ted

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>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
>very small! :(
>
>On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
>> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
>> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
>> if it doesen't work.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
>> >had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
>> >some hardware for once :)
>> >
>> >On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>> >> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>> >> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>> >> a newer/different chipset in it.
>> >> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>> >> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>> >> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>> >> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>> >> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>> >>
>> >> c ya ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-04 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Hi All,

  Actually I think I figured out the problem in the driver and I'm going
to test
this tomorrow.

  For those of you smart guys who like math, take a look at the following
change that was made in the driver CVS a couple years ago:

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/dev/bge/if_bge.c.diff?r1=1.
37&r2=1.38

It looks like at the time the maintainer decided he didn't like all the
nasty magic numbers like 0x3F000F in the code and so replaced
it with some equally nasty macros pointing to other magic numbers,
plus some elaborate shifting of bits to try to generate the magic numbers
he eliminated from the magic numbers he created.

The only problem is that, for example, the bitwise ORing and
shifting he's doing is not going to convert 0x10, 0x13, and 0x0f into
0x3F000F  At least, none that I know about and I spent a couple hours
trying to figure out why he was doing what he did.  Maybe someone
out there can look at this section of code for me and see if they can
figure this out?

More importantly, the specific Broadcom chip (BCM5714) has an exception
in the Linux driver from Broadcom with it's own spechul magic number
different from the magic numbers used for the other chipsets, and
this isn't in the FreeBSD driver.

Ted


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>Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 2:55 AM
>To: 'William'
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>
>> You may get lucky and get a DL320 G4 that does not have the
>> specific Broadcom chip in it.
>
>not sure, but maybe you can specify at least the chipset you
>DON'T want in your order (hp should be able to figure it out
>using the serial#, and this no. is on the boxes.
>the order way would be: check for avail., ask your dealer(s) for
>some sn#'s for devices you want, let them check (or check on your
>own with hp for the chipset) and order the box (i guess at least
>a charge-no. should fit, they don't change the chips all 8hrs).
>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-04 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
 
> You may get lucky and get a DL320 G4 that does not have the
> specific Broadcom chip in it.

not sure, but maybe you can specify at least the chipset you
DON'T want in your order (hp should be able to figure it out
using the serial#, and this no. is on the boxes.
the order way would be: check for avail., ask your dealer(s) for
some sn#'s for devices you want, let them check (or check on your
own with hp for the chipset) and order the box (i guess at least
a charge-no. should fit, they don't change the chips all 8hrs).

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Then be prepared to either fix the driver, pay a developer to
fix the driver, or buy a 64 bit nic that fits in the slot in
the server and that is a different chipset.

You may get lucky and get a DL320 G4 that does not have the
specific Broadcom chip in it.

Ted

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>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:41 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are
>very small! :(
>
>On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
>> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
>> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
>> if it doesen't work.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
>> >had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
>> >some hardware for once :)
>> >
>> >On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>> >> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>> >> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>> >> a newer/different chipset in it.
>> >> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>> >> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>> >> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>> >> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>> >> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>> >>
>> >> c ya ;-)
>> >>
>> >>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

The first thing we did was install W2K on it and run the HP utility that
updates all firmware - before even trying FreeBSD on it.

Did I mention in the PR that the Broadcom driver for Linux works
flawlessly under OpenSUSE?  I think I did.

Windows also works fine on the box as well (that is, Windows works
as well on it as it works on any other system which isn't much)

The problem is a bug in the bge driver.  Many other people have
filed PR's in the FreeBSD database that refer to problems on a wide
variety of different server hardware, all containing this one specific
chip.  With panics giving the same error message.

Read the PR's cited, it's all there.

Ted

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>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:47 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Cc: 'William'
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>
>> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
>> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
>> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
>> if it doesen't work.
>
>did you ever try to install win2k/2k3 on it and apply all fw-patches
>from hp to the box? you also could try the fw-upgrade-cd, which is
>avail as iso-download on hp.com. the NICs also have upgradeable fw,
>check for this (if you didn't ;-))
>further, you could check for some special settings, or boot your sys
>from the cd, configure the NIC and run some tests (w/o installation
>or customization).
>what i also wouldn't rule out is a possible hw-defect on your box
>(or an older/incompatible chipset revision) even if it works proper
>under MS (you tried that, haven't you ;-)?).
>
>beyond you can see some stats from our box so you're probably able to
>compare your system to it. the box has been cold-booted before running
>an ftp-transfer of 5 and 20mb as a GET and then a transfer to another
>host using put (also 5 and 20mb). all run under 6.1-RC2.
>
>ifconfig:
>bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
>   options=1b
>   inet6 fe80::215:60ff:feaa:39d2%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
>   inet 192.168.134.3 netmask 0xffe0 broadcast 192.168.134.31
>   ether 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
>   media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX )
>   status: active
>
>some netstat's (i removed sections with all being 0):
>tcp:
>   29512 packets sent
>   17196 data packets (24848556 bytes)
>   0 data packets (0 bytes) retransmitted
>   0 data packets unnecessarily retransmitted
>   0 resends initiated by MTU discovery
>   7228 ack-only packets (23 delayed)
>   0 URG only packets
>   0 window probe packets
>   5072 window update packets
>   16 control packets
>   25699 packets received
>   8647 acks (for 24848565 bytes)
>   7 duplicate acks
>   0 acks for unsent data
>   14825 packets (21555935 bytes) received in-sequence
>   0 completely duplicate packets (0 bytes)
>   0 old duplicate packets
>   0 packets with some dup. data (0 bytes duped)
>   2258 out-of-order packets (3296680 bytes)
>   0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window
>   0 window probes
>   0 window update packets
>   0 packets received after close
>   0 discarded for bad checksums
>   0 discarded for bad header offset fields
>   0 discarded because packet too short
>   9 connection requests
>   0 connection accepts
>   0 bad connection attempts
>   0 listen queue overflows
>   0 ignored RSTs in the windows
>   9 connections established (including accepts)
>   14 connections closed (including 0 drops)
>   4 connections updated cached RTT on close
>   4 connections updated cached RTT variance on close
>   0 connections updated cached ssthresh on close
>   0 embryonic connections dropped
>   8647 segments updated rtt (of 8473 attempts)
>   0 retransmit timeouts
>   0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout
>   0 persist timeouts
>   0 connections dropped by persist timeout
>   0 keepalive timeouts
>   0 keepalive probes sent
>   0 connections dropped by keepalive
>   8489 correct ACK header predictions
>   14785 correct data packet header predictions
>   0 syncache entries added
>   0 retransmitted
>   0 dupsyn
>

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Just an update, I checked again and our server is running
a 3.0Ghz not a 2.8Ghz pentium D.

Ted

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>From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 1:44 PM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Cc: 'William'
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>
>Hi All,
>
>  This server is using the Broadcom BCM5704C, the problem child
>chipset (that is
>discussed in the PR 94307 that I referred to) is the BCM5714.
>
>This is also running a different CPU - your running a 3.4Ghz
>pentium 4, we are running
>a 2.8Ghz Pentium D.  Your CPU chip ID is 0xf43 ours is 0xf44
>
>  While you can specify different CPU speeds, I would be pretty
>nervous in
>assuming that simply specifying a different CPU speed would
>change the ethernet
>chipset on the motherboard.
>
>  If William does go forward with his order I would certainly
>suggest he order the
>faster server, and cross his fingers.
>
>  NoSpam it would be very useful if you could submit a followup
>to the PR 94307
>with your dmesg, and note that while the server model # is the
>same the ethernet
>chipset is different.
>
>Ted
>
>>-Original Message-
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>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:25 AM
>>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>>Cc: 'William'
>>Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>>
>>
>>
>>> What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
>>> had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
>>> some hardware for once :)
>>
>>we didn't really run 6.0-RELEASE on the system, as the 6.1-BETAs had
>>been out when we bought the server. therefore not really man exp. on
>>this.
>>
>>for ted's request, here's the dmesg ;-)
>>
>>
>>-
>>Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
>>Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992,
>1993, 1994
>>  The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>>FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 30 09:42:38 UTC 2006
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>>ACPI APIC Table: 
>>Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
>>CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (3391.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
>>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
>>
>>Features=0xbfebfbff>MTRR,PGE,MCA
>>,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
>>  Features2=0x649d>
>>  AMD Features=0x2000
>>  Logical CPUs per core: 2
>>real memory  = 1073688576 (1023 MB)
>>avail memory = 1041743872 (993 MB)
>>ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
>>ioapic1  irqs 24-47 on motherboard
>>ioapic2  irqs 48-71 on motherboard
>>kbd1 at kbdmux0
>>acpi0:  on motherboard
>>acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
>>Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
>>acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0
>>cpu0:  on acpi0
>>pcib0:  on acpi0
>>pci0:  on pcib0
>>pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.31.INTA
>>pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
>>pci5:  on pcib1
>>pcib2:  at device 0.0 on pci5
>>pci6:  on pcib2
>>bge0:  mem
>>0xfdff-0xfdff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
>>miibus0:  on bge0
>>brgphy0:  on miibus0
>>brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
>>1000baseTX-FDX, auto
>>bge0: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
>>bge1:  mem
>>0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 25 at device 1.1 on pci6
>>miibus1:  on bge1
>>brgphy1:  on miibus1
>>brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
>>1000baseTX-FDX, auto
>>bge1: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d1
>>pcib3:  at device 0.2 on pci5
>>pci9:  on pcib3
>>pcib4:  at device 28.0 on pci0
>>pci2:  on pcib4
>>uhci0:  port
>>0x1000-0x101f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
>>uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>>usb0:  on uhci0
>>usb0: USB revision 1.0
>>uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>>uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>>uhci1:  port
>>0x1020-0x103f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0
>>uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>>usb1:  on uhci1
>>usb1: USB revision 1.0
>>uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>>uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>>uhci2:  port
>>0x1040-0x105f irq 1

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Hi All,

  This server is using the Broadcom BCM5704C, the problem child chipset
(that is
discussed in the PR 94307 that I referred to) is the BCM5714.

This is also running a different CPU - your running a 3.4Ghz pentium 4,
we are running
a 2.8Ghz Pentium D.  Your CPU chip ID is 0xf43 ours is 0xf44

  While you can specify different CPU speeds, I would be pretty nervous
in
assuming that simply specifying a different CPU speed would change the
ethernet
chipset on the motherboard.

  If William does go forward with his order I would certainly suggest he
order the
faster server, and cross his fingers.

  NoSpam it would be very useful if you could submit a followup to the PR
94307
with your dmesg, and note that while the server model # is the same the
ethernet
chipset is different.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 7:25 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Cc: 'William'
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>
>> What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
>> had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
>> some hardware for once :)
>
>we didn't really run 6.0-RELEASE on the system, as the 6.1-BETAs had
>been out when we bought the server. therefore not really man exp. on
>this.
>
>for ted's request, here's the dmesg ;-)
>
>
>-
>Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
>Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
>   The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
>FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 30 09:42:38 UTC 2006
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>ACPI APIC Table: 
>Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
>CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (3391.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
>
>Features=0xbfebfbffMTRR,PGE,MCA
>,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
>  Features2=0x649d>
>  AMD Features=0x2000
>  Logical CPUs per core: 2
>real memory  = 1073688576 (1023 MB)
>avail memory = 1041743872 (993 MB)
>ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
>ioapic1  irqs 24-47 on motherboard
>ioapic2  irqs 48-71 on motherboard
>kbd1 at kbdmux0
>acpi0:  on motherboard
>acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
>Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
>acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0
>cpu0:  on acpi0
>pcib0:  on acpi0
>pci0:  on pcib0
>pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.31.INTA
>pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
>pci5:  on pcib1
>pcib2:  at device 0.0 on pci5
>pci6:  on pcib2
>bge0:  mem
>0xfdff-0xfdff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
>miibus0:  on bge0
>brgphy0:  on miibus0
>brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
>1000baseTX-FDX, auto
>bge0: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
>bge1:  mem
>0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 25 at device 1.1 on pci6
>miibus1:  on bge1
>brgphy1:  on miibus1
>brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
>1000baseTX-FDX, auto
>bge1: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d1
>pcib3:  at device 0.2 on pci5
>pci9:  on pcib3
>pcib4:  at device 28.0 on pci0
>pci2:  on pcib4
>uhci0:  port
>0x1000-0x101f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
>uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>usb0:  on uhci0
>usb0: USB revision 1.0
>uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>uhci1:  port
>0x1020-0x103f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0
>uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>usb1:  on uhci1
>usb1: USB revision 1.0
>uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>uhci2:  port
>0x1040-0x105f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
>uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>usb2:  on uhci2
>usb2: USB revision 1.0
>uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>uhci3:  port
>0x1060-0x107f irq 19 at device 29.3 on pci0
>uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>usb3:  on uhci3
>usb3: USB revision 1.0
>uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
>ehci0:  mem
>0xfbef-0xfbef03ff
>irq 16 at device 29.7 on pci0
>ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
>usb4: EHCI version 1.0
>usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
>usb4:  on ehci0
>usb4: USB revision 2.0
>uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
>umass0: U

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread William

The chances of getting it returned because fbsd doesnt work are very small! :(

On 03/05/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
if it doesen't work.

Ted


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
>had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
>some hardware for once :)
>
>On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>> a newer/different chipset in it.
>> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>>
>> c ya ;-)
>>
>>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

> I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
> when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
> haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
> if it doesen't work.

did you ever try to install win2k/2k3 on it and apply all fw-patches
from hp to the box? you also could try the fw-upgrade-cd, which is
avail as iso-download on hp.com. the NICs also have upgradeable fw,
check for this (if you didn't ;-))
further, you could check for some special settings, or boot your sys
from the cd, configure the NIC and run some tests (w/o installation
or customization).
what i also wouldn't rule out is a possible hw-defect on your box
(or an older/incompatible chipset revision) even if it works proper
under MS (you tried that, haven't you ;-)?).

beyond you can see some stats from our box so you're probably able to
compare your system to it. the box has been cold-booted before running
an ftp-transfer of 5 and 20mb as a GET and then a transfer to another
host using put (also 5 and 20mb). all run under 6.1-RC2.

ifconfig:
bge0: flags=8843 mtu 1500
options=1b
inet6 fe80::215:60ff:feaa:39d2%bge0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 
inet 192.168.134.3 netmask 0xffe0 broadcast 192.168.134.31
ether 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX )
status: active

some netstat's (i removed sections with all being 0):
tcp:
29512 packets sent
17196 data packets (24848556 bytes)
0 data packets (0 bytes) retransmitted
0 data packets unnecessarily retransmitted
0 resends initiated by MTU discovery
7228 ack-only packets (23 delayed)
0 URG only packets
0 window probe packets
5072 window update packets
16 control packets
25699 packets received
8647 acks (for 24848565 bytes)
7 duplicate acks
0 acks for unsent data
14825 packets (21555935 bytes) received in-sequence
0 completely duplicate packets (0 bytes)
0 old duplicate packets
0 packets with some dup. data (0 bytes duped)
2258 out-of-order packets (3296680 bytes)
0 packets (0 bytes) of data after window
0 window probes
0 window update packets
0 packets received after close
0 discarded for bad checksums
0 discarded for bad header offset fields
0 discarded because packet too short
9 connection requests
0 connection accepts
0 bad connection attempts
0 listen queue overflows
0 ignored RSTs in the windows
9 connections established (including accepts)
14 connections closed (including 0 drops)
4 connections updated cached RTT on close
4 connections updated cached RTT variance on close
0 connections updated cached ssthresh on close
0 embryonic connections dropped
8647 segments updated rtt (of 8473 attempts)
0 retransmit timeouts
0 connections dropped by rexmit timeout
0 persist timeouts
0 connections dropped by persist timeout
0 keepalive timeouts
0 keepalive probes sent
0 connections dropped by keepalive
8489 correct ACK header predictions
14785 correct data packet header predictions
0 syncache entries added
0 retransmitted
0 dupsyn
0 dropped
0 completed
0 bucket overflow
0 cache overflow
0 reset
0 stale
0 aborted
0 badack
0 unreach
0 zone failures
0 cookies sent
0 cookies received
0 SACK recovery episodes
0 segment rexmits in SACK recovery episodes
0 byte rexmits in SACK recovery episodes
0 SACK options (SACK blocks) received
2148 SACK options (SACK blocks) sent
0 SACK scoreboard overflow
udp:
17 datagrams received
0 with incomplete header
0 with bad data length field
0 with bad checksum
0 with no checksum
8 dropped due to no socket
7 broadcast/multicast datagrams dropped due to no socket
0 dropped due to full socket buffers
0 not for hashed pcb
2 delivered
11 datagrams output
ip:
25733 total packets received
0 bad header checksums
0 with size smaller than minimum
0 with data size < data length
0 with ip length > max ip packet size
0 with header length < data size
0 with data length < header length
0 with bad options
0 with incorrect version number
 

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-03 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

I have a DL320 G4 in the rack and the thing panics under 6.1-RC1
when more than a few K of data is sent over the bge interface.  I
haven't tried 6.0-RELEASE on it.  Just make sure you can return it
if it doesen't work.

Ted


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 3:10 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
>had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
>some hardware for once :)
>
>On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>> they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>> but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>> a newer/different chipset in it.
>> we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>> monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>> problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>> 26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>> more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>>
>> c ya ;-)
>>
>>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-02 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

> What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
> had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
> some hardware for once :)

we didn't really run 6.0-RELEASE on the system, as the 6.1-BETAs had
been out when we bought the server. therefore not really man exp. on
this.

for ted's request, here's the dmesg ;-)

-
Copyright (c) 1992-2006 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 6.1-RC2 #0: Sun Apr 30 09:42:38 UTC 2006
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
ACPI APIC Table: 
Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz (3391.52-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf43  Stepping = 3
 
Features=0xbfebfbff
  Features2=0x649d>
  AMD Features=0x2000
  Logical CPUs per core: 2
real memory  = 1073688576 (1023 MB)
avail memory = 1041743872 (993 MB)
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
ioapic1  irqs 24-47 on motherboard
ioapic2  irqs 48-71 on motherboard
kbd1 at kbdmux0
acpi0:  on motherboard
acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
Timecounter "ACPI-fast" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0
cpu0:  on acpi0
pcib0:  on acpi0
pci0:  on pcib0
pcib0: no PRT entry for 0.31.INTA
pcib1:  at device 1.0 on pci0
pci5:  on pcib1
pcib2:  at device 0.0 on pci5
pci6:  on pcib2
bge0:  mem
0xfdff-0xfdff irq 24 at device 1.0 on pci6
miibus0:  on bge0
brgphy0:  on miibus0
brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge0: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d2
bge1:  mem
0xfdfe-0xfdfe irq 25 at device 1.1 on pci6
miibus1:  on bge1
brgphy1:  on miibus1
brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
1000baseTX-FDX, auto
bge1: Ethernet address: 00:15:60:aa:39:d1
pcib3:  at device 0.2 on pci5
pci9:  on pcib3
pcib4:  at device 28.0 on pci0
pci2:  on pcib4
uhci0:  port
0x1000-0x101f irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
uhci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb0:  on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci1:  port
0x1020-0x103f irq 17 at device 29.1 on pci0
uhci1: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb1:  on uhci1
usb1: USB revision 1.0
uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci2:  port
0x1040-0x105f irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
uhci2: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb2:  on uhci2
usb2: USB revision 1.0
uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
uhci3:  port
0x1060-0x107f irq 19 at device 29.3 on pci0
uhci3: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb3:  on uhci3
usb3: USB revision 1.0
uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
ehci0:  mem 0xfbef-0xfbef03ff
irq 16 at device 29.7 on pci0
ehci0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
usb4: EHCI version 1.0
usb4: companion controllers, 2 ports each: usb0 usb1 usb2 usb3
usb4:  on ehci0
usb4: USB revision 2.0
uhub4: Intel EHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 2.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub4: 8 ports with 8 removable, self powered
umass0: USB Flash Disk, rev 2.00/2.00, addr 2
pcib5:  at device 30.0 on pci0
pci1:  on pcib5
pci1:  at device 2.0 (no driver attached)
pci1:  at device 2.2 (no driver attached)
pci1:  at device 3.0 (no driver attached)
isab0:  at device 31.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
atapci0:  port
0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6,0x170-0x177,0x376,0x500-0x50f irq 7 at device 31.1 on pci0
ata0:  on atapci0
ata1:  on atapci0
atapci1:  port
0x1080-0x1087,0x1088-0x108b,0x1090-0x1097,0x1098-0x109b,0x10a0-0x10af mem
0xfbee-0xfbee03ff irq 17 at device 31.2 on pci0
ata2:  on atapci1
ata3:  on atapci1
acpi_tz0:  on acpi0
atkbdc0:  port 0x60,0x64 irq 1 on acpi0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
atkbd0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0:  irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: [GIANT-LOCKED]
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
sio0:  port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A
fdc0:  port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on acpi0
fdc0: [FAST]
pmtimer0 on isa0
orm0:  at iomem
0xc-0xc7fff,0xc8000-0xcc7ff,0xee000-0xe on isa0
ppc0: parallel port not found.
sc0:  at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounter "TSC" frequency 3391523707 Hz quality 800
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
acd0: CDROM  at ata0-master UDMA33
ad4: 76319MB  at ata2-master SATA150
ad6: 76319MB  at ata3-master SATA150
ar0: 76319MB  status: READY
ar0: disk0 READY (master) using ad4 at ata2-master
ar0: disk1 READY (mirror) using ad6 at ata3-master
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/ar0s1a

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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-02 Thread William

What was your experience like with 6.0-RELEASE and the dl320 g4? I've
had a quote back on that model so could be near to actually getting
some hardware for once :)

On 30/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
a newer/different chipset in it.
we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

c ya ;-)



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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-05-01 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Would you please post a dmesg for this?

They may have added an exception for the first chipset rev
of the bge used on this server.  There are 2 revs that I know
of (so far)

Ted

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>
>
>
>just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
>they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
>but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
>a newer/different chipset in it.
>we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
>monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
>problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
>26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
>more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).
>
>c ya ;-)
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-30 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

just for info: our dl320 g4 also has bge interfaces, and
they work very well under 6.1-RC1 (even BETA4 was ok).
but our server has been bought 2 months ago, maybe there's
a newer/different chipset in it.
we also have a dl320 g2 being heavily used as lan switches
monitor, this server also has bge interfaces and had no
problem since 1 year capturing and analyzing more than
26GB/day (avg) of nw-data on the 2nd interface and serving
more than 4GB/day (avg) on the primary one (both IPv4 only).

c ya ;-)

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

No, what happens if you configure it via rc.conf is the server
stays up for about a minute then panics, rather than panicing
immediately.

Perhaps if you e-mailed the bge maintainer and referenced the
PRs on the Ethernet, they might be willing to fix the driver.
Otherwise I'm going to look at it next week since I have one
of these servers and I can't return it. :-(  Another possibility
is installing another ethernet card in the server's expansion
slot.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 9:47 AM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>Hi Ted,
>
>Thanks for the information regarding the Ethernet chipset, does the
>same thing happen if you configure the interface via rc.conf/ifconfig
>once the system is up and running?
>
>If the ethernet chipset support at the moment is flakey then I might
>have to look at a different vender, ethernet being one of the most
>important devices I need working for what I'm after! :(
>
>Cheers,
>
>Will
>
>On 29/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi William,
>>
>>   No.  Soren added a bunch of error checking code in the ata driver
>> for 6.1 to reject oddball cases and one of the things it does
>is ignore
>> the
>> disks on this particular server if the RAID functionality is turned
>> on in the BIOS.  However, even though FreeBSD 6.0 sees the
>disks if the
>> RAID setup is switched on in BIOS, it does not see the RAID array so
>> it is pretty much an error to have this BIOS option turned on.
>>
>>   Until support for the Adaptec metadata format is added, the
>> RAID firmware in this server is useless.
>>
>>   But you still can get RAID going on the server now by doing this:
>>
>> Turn off SATA Raid in the BIOS.  Install a scratch version of
>> FreeBSD.  Login as root issue the command "atacontrol create RAID1 ad4
>> ad6"
>> Immediately reboot.  Reinstall FreeBSD on disk "ar0"
>>
>> This will give you chipset RAID just you can't rebuild the array from
>> the BIOS.
>>
>> More importantly, though, is trouble with the Ethernet chipset.
>>
>> During the install it will ask if you want to configure the
>> Ethernet interface.  Do not do this.  If you do the system will
>> immediately panic.
>>
>> Once the system is up and running, recompile the kernel to use the
>> fix discussed in PR  kern/94307.  A discussion of how you might
>> go about implementing this fix is in PR kern/94863
>>
>> Unfortunately the bge maintainers) are very loath to believe that
>> they are going to have to make exceptions in their code for all
>> the different hacked up variants of this Ethernet chipset, but
>> in reviewing the PR database I suspect this is the case.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:27 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >Ted,
>> >
>> >Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >
>> >Will
>> >
>> >On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
>> >> settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.
>> >>
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >> >-Original Message-
>> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >> >Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
>> >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
>> >> >
>> >> >Regards,
>> >> >
>> >> >William
>> >> >
>> >> >On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
>> >> >> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
>> >> >> on their metadata format, as he requested.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ted
>> >> >>
>> >

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread William

Hi Ted,

Thanks for the information regarding the Ethernet chipset, does the
same thing happen if you configure the interface via rc.conf/ifconfig
once the system is up and running?

If the ethernet chipset support at the moment is flakey then I might
have to look at a different vender, ethernet being one of the most
important devices I need working for what I'm after! :(

Cheers,

Will

On 29/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi William,

  No.  Soren added a bunch of error checking code in the ata driver
for 6.1 to reject oddball cases and one of the things it does is ignore
the
disks on this particular server if the RAID functionality is turned
on in the BIOS.  However, even though FreeBSD 6.0 sees the disks if the
RAID setup is switched on in BIOS, it does not see the RAID array so
it is pretty much an error to have this BIOS option turned on.

  Until support for the Adaptec metadata format is added, the
RAID firmware in this server is useless.

  But you still can get RAID going on the server now by doing this:

Turn off SATA Raid in the BIOS.  Install a scratch version of
FreeBSD.  Login as root issue the command "atacontrol create RAID1 ad4
ad6"
Immediately reboot.  Reinstall FreeBSD on disk "ar0"

This will give you chipset RAID just you can't rebuild the array from
the BIOS.

More importantly, though, is trouble with the Ethernet chipset.

During the install it will ask if you want to configure the
Ethernet interface.  Do not do this.  If you do the system will
immediately panic.

Once the system is up and running, recompile the kernel to use the
fix discussed in PR  kern/94307.  A discussion of how you might
go about implementing this fix is in PR kern/94863

Unfortunately the bge maintainers) are very loath to believe that
they are going to have to make exceptions in their code for all
the different hacked up variants of this Ethernet chipset, but
in reviewing the PR database I suspect this is the case.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:27 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>Ted,
>
>Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Will
>
>On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
>> settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >William
>> >
>> >On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
>> >> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
>> >> on their metadata format, as he requested.
>> >>
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >> >-Original Message-
>> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>> >> >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
>> >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share
>their experience
>> >> >> with the following products (in regards of network/sata
>support and
>> >> >> anything else mentioning):
>> >> >>
>> >> >> HP DL140 G2
>> >> >> HP DL145 G2
>> >> >> HP DL320 G4
>> >> >> HP DL360 G4
>> >> >
>> >> >we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
>> >> >1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
>> >> >as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
>> >> >hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
>> >> >controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
>> >> >using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
>> >> >3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
>> >> >fine. rebuild is sometimes only possi

RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Hi William,

  No.  Soren added a bunch of error checking code in the ata driver
for 6.1 to reject oddball cases and one of the things it does is ignore
the
disks on this particular server if the RAID functionality is turned
on in the BIOS.  However, even though FreeBSD 6.0 sees the disks if the
RAID setup is switched on in BIOS, it does not see the RAID array so
it is pretty much an error to have this BIOS option turned on.

  Until support for the Adaptec metadata format is added, the
RAID firmware in this server is useless.

  But you still can get RAID going on the server now by doing this:

Turn off SATA Raid in the BIOS.  Install a scratch version of
FreeBSD.  Login as root issue the command "atacontrol create RAID1 ad4
ad6"
Immediately reboot.  Reinstall FreeBSD on disk "ar0"

This will give you chipset RAID just you can't rebuild the array from
the BIOS.

More importantly, though, is trouble with the Ethernet chipset.

During the install it will ask if you want to configure the
Ethernet interface.  Do not do this.  If you do the system will
immediately panic.

Once the system is up and running, recompile the kernel to use the
fix discussed in PR  kern/94307.  A discussion of how you might
go about implementing this fix is in PR kern/94863

Unfortunately the bge maintainers) are very loath to believe that
they are going to have to make exceptions in their code for all
the different hacked up variants of this Ethernet chipset, but
in reviewing the PR database I suspect this is the case.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:27 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>Ted,
>
>Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Will
>
>On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
>> settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>> >Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
>> >
>> >Regards,
>> >
>> >William
>> >
>> >On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
>> >> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
>> >> on their metadata format, as he requested.
>> >>
>> >> Ted
>> >>
>> >> >-Original Message-
>> >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>> >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>> >> >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
>> >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> >Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share
>their experience
>> >> >> with the following products (in regards of network/sata
>support and
>> >> >> anything else mentioning):
>> >> >>
>> >> >> HP DL140 G2
>> >> >> HP DL145 G2
>> >> >> HP DL320 G4
>> >> >> HP DL360 G4
>> >> >
>> >> >we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
>> >> >1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
>> >> >as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
>> >> >hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
>> >> >controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
>> >> >using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
>> >> >3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
>> >> >fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
>> >> >in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
>> >> >
>> >> >nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
>> >> >no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
>> >> >many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on
>a machine
>> >> >with 8 interfaces).
>>

Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-29 Thread William

Ted,

Is that the same with FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE?

Cheers,

Will

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
>
>Regards,
>
>William
>
>On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
>> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
>> on their metadata format, as he requested.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>> >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
>> >> with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
>> >> anything else mentioning):
>> >>
>> >> HP DL140 G2
>> >> HP DL145 G2
>> >> HP DL320 G4
>> >> HP DL360 G4
>> >
>> >we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
>> >1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
>> >as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
>> >hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
>> >controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
>> >using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
>> >3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
>> >fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
>> >in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
>> >
>> >nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
>> >no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
>> >many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
>> >with 8 interfaces).
>> >
>> >thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
>> >close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
>> >numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
>> >temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
>> >
>> >also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
>> >is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
>> >have to check for errors like this on your own.
>> >
>> >furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
>> >if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
>> >hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
>> >the list.
>> >
>> >btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
>> >of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
>> >know!
>> >
>> >best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
>> >
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

No, but you must make sure to turn OFF raid in the BIOS
settings or FreeBSD 6.1 will not recognize the drives.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of William
>Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 12:05 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?
>
>Regards,
>
>William
>
>On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
>> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
>> on their metadata format, as he requested.
>>
>> Ted
>>
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>> >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
>> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
>> >> with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
>> >> anything else mentioning):
>> >>
>> >> HP DL140 G2
>> >> HP DL145 G2
>> >> HP DL320 G4
>> >> HP DL360 G4
>> >
>> >we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
>> >1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
>> >as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
>> >hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
>> >controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
>> >using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
>> >3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
>> >fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
>> >in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
>> >
>> >nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
>> >no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
>> >many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
>> >with 8 interfaces).
>> >
>> >thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
>> >close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
>> >numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
>> >temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
>> >
>> >also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
>> >is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
>> >have to check for errors like this on your own.
>> >
>> >furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
>> >if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
>> >hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
>> >the list.
>> >
>> >btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
>> >of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
>> >know!
>> >
>> >best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
>> >
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Let me ask you this:

  Would you, right now, feel comfortable walking into your server room
and
yanking out one of the SATA drives?  Then shut down the server, install
the
drive back in, and initiate the rebuild?

  I have done just that to our production Compaqs with SCSI arrays on
the intelligent controller, of course I don't have to down the server to
rebuild
the array since the controller does it automatically when you put the
drive
back in.  It is one of the most effective sales tools we have, we've sold
several servers by doing this.

  I would also feel comfortable doing it to a server running the 3ware
raid card.

  I don't know I'd feel comfortable with doing this with raidctl but I
probably
are going to end up testing this out since that's probably what we are
going to
have to end up doing with ours, at least until Soren reverse engineers
the Adaptec
metadata format for some future version of FreeBSD.

  But if I had known about this problem in advance I would never have
bought
the server.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>Sent: Friday, April 28, 2006 2:30 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Ted Mittelstaedt'
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>
>> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
>> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
>> on their metadata format, as he requested.
>
>hi,
>we're using 6.1-RC1 on a DL320 G4 with raidctl, which perfectly
>fit's our needs. the metadata being written by the bios-fw of the
>onboard-controller (adaptec) is really not readable by the os, but
>this doesn't prevent us from having our os being installed on raid1.
>you only have to boot freebsd, go to the shell, use raidctl to create
>an ar0 using ad4 and ad6 and then install the os directly onto ar0.
>even booting is not an issue.
>[->thx 2 soren, he pointed us in the right direction upon this :-)]
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread William
Will this stop me using the drives without RAID?

Regards,

William

On 28/04/06, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
> on their metadata format, as he requested.
>
> Ted
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
> >Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
> >
> >
> >
> >> Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
> >> with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
> >> anything else mentioning):
> >>
> >> HP DL140 G2
> >> HP DL145 G2
> >> HP DL320 G4
> >> HP DL360 G4
> >
> >we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
> >1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
> >as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
> >hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
> >controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
> >using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
> >3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
> >fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
> >in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
> >
> >nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
> >no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
> >many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
> >with 8 interfaces).
> >
> >thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
> >close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
> >numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
> >temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
> >
> >also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
> >is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
> >have to check for errors like this on your own.
> >
> >furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
> >if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
> >hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
> >the list.
> >
> >btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
> >of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
> >know!
> >
> >best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
> >
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
 
> RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
> firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
> on their metadata format, as he requested.

hi,
we're using 6.1-RC1 on a DL320 G4 with raidctl, which perfectly
fit's our needs. the metadata being written by the bios-fw of the
onboard-controller (adaptec) is really not readable by the os, but
this doesn't prevent us from having our os being installed on raid1.
you only have to boot freebsd, go to the shell, use raidctl to create
an ar0 using ad4 and ad6 and then install the os directly onto ar0.
even booting is not an issue.
[->thx 2 soren, he pointed us in the right direction upon this :-)]

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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-27 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
RAID support on the DL320 G4 is broken.  HP uses Adaptec
firmware and Adaptec has not provided Soren programming info
on their metadata format, as he requested.

Ted

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net
>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:38 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4
>
>
>
>> Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
>> with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
>> anything else mentioning):
>>
>> HP DL140 G2
>> HP DL145 G2
>> HP DL320 G4
>> HP DL360 G4
>
>we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
>1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
>as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
>hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
>controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
>using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
>3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
>fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
>in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
>
>nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
>no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
>many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
>with 8 interfaces).
>
>thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
>close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
>numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
>temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
>
>also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
>is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
>have to check for errors like this on your own.
>
>furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
>if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
>hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
>the list.
>
>btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
>of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
>know!
>
>best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
>
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Re: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-27 Thread William
Thanks for your email,

I'm really happy to hear about the support, I'm looking at using the
sata disks! I'm not sure else to ask you have covered pretty much
everything.

Regards,

William

On 27/04/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
> > with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
> > anything else mentioning):
> >
> > HP DL140 G2
> > HP DL145 G2
> > HP DL320 G4
> > HP DL360 G4
>
> we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
> 1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
> as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
> hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
> controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
> using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
> 3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
> fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
> in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)
>
> nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
> no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
> many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
> with 8 interfaces).
>
> thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
> close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
> numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
> temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.
>
> also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
> is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
> have to check for errors like this on your own.
>
> furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
> if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
> hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
> the list.
>
> btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
> of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
> know!
>
> best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)
>
>
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RE: FreeBSD 6.0 compat with DL320 G4

2006-04-27 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]@mgEDV.net

> Our vendor preference is HP, if anyone could share their experience
> with the following products (in regards of network/sata support and
> anything else mentioning):
>
> HP DL140 G2
> HP DL145 G2
> HP DL320 G4
> HP DL360 G4

we tried dl320 g2, g3, g4, dl380 g3 with sata/ciss drives,
1-4gb ram, P4/XEON, DUAL-XEON with freebsd 5 and 6.
as of the *bsd's, freebsd has the best support for the
hp DL*s. sata support is not given for all embedded raid-
controllers but you can still use raid 1 functionality
using raidctl. hdd failures can render the system hang for
3-5sec's on sata devices but after this timeout, everything's
fine. rebuild is sometimes only possible by os-command, pluggin'
in the new drive is sometimes not enough ;-)

nw/chipset support is working (at least on all machines we use).
no performance issues, except you configure as router and you use
many different irq's for all interfaces (only occurred on a machine
with 8 interfaces).

thermal zone / ipmi support is not really
close to the vendors ideas and sometimes produces wrong
numbers, but if you don't want to set fan-speed or check
temp. on all mentioned devices, it's fine.

also, system management like (red-power fail, red-fan fail, etc...)
is not really talking to the os and vice versa, therefore you'll
have to check for errors like this on your own.

furthermore, bios/fw upgrades can sometimes be really annoying,
if you don't have usb-boot-support you'd run into troubles because
hp only delivers them for some specific os's and freebsd is not on
the list.

btw. if somebody reads this and thinks: hey, bullshit i know a way
of doing this better and it works fine with my DL, please let me
know!

best regards and good luck w. the hw :-)

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