Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
I may be work but FreeBSD is an Intel, I haven't see a PowerPC version. I had to use OpenBSD. Darwin is what Mac OS X is base on, you can use OS X with fink, and use thounds of BSD programs. Payne Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBP4bNNERPmxonqOz6EQKeowCfX30jr6LPZJT/RhBBzgdyALeJWqcAoLE7 7/2F4SebTPbAVlI4xzJ/zonF =X5XT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
While there is a Ports system for Darwin/OS X, called GNUDarwin, avoid it, as it is notorious for breaking the basic OS install without asking. Fink is a better alternative, it's pretty much a port of the Debian package management system, with somewhat improved source handling. As it dumps all downloaded software in /sw, it doesn't break the base install. Very nifty. Works very well. OS X + Fink is a greak little OS, especially if you use 10.2 with Apple's X11 server. I run that on my old Beige G3, and it's quite decent. Adam Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBP4bNNERPmxonqOz6EQKeowCfX30jr6LPZJT/RhBBzgdyALeJWqcAoLE7 7/2F4SebTPbAVlI4xzJ/zonF =X5XT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
There is a page on the freebsd website describing work on a PowerPC version, but it says they are almost ready to boot into Single user mood.. another words.. not done. It mentions that some of the code is in current, but doesn't really explain how you'd load it onto a mac, etc. Darwin has packages, but not a ports system from what i've read. You might as well use Mac OS X if you are going to use darwin since there is fink, and you get Java in OSX. I ran NetBSD on a sparc for some time. Its nice. I'm sure the PowerPC version is good as well. If I were you, I'd just pre-order Mac OS 10.3 and run that. You can't beat commercial apps and open source! At least X86 BSD users can usually run Linux software including games like Quake, etc. On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBP4bNNERPmxonqOz6EQKeowCfX30jr6LPZJT/RhBBzgdyALeJWqcAoLE7 7/2F4SebTPbAVlI4xzJ/zonF =X5XT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lucas Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] FoolishGames.com (Jewel Fan Site) JustJournal.com (Free blogging) Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. - Albert Einstein (1879-1955) ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian I believe 10.3 is going to introduce a blessed ports system, which I'd imagine would immediately be adopted by Darwin. Just FYI. KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:09:39 -0700 Kevin Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 11:16 AM, Brian McCann wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This may be a bit off topic, but does anyone know of a real, current version of FreeBSD that will run on a G3 Mac? I've looked at both Net OpenBSD, but I'd rather stick with one OS for all my PCs. I know, that Darwin is basically the same thing as FreeBSD and that very little has changed...but one of the main reason I love FreeBSD is because of the ports collection. Has anyone tried downloading the ports collection on a Darwin system and tried building anything? Thanks, - --Brian I believe 10.3 is going to introduce a blessed ports system, which I'd imagine would immediately be adopted by Darwin. Just FYI. I have been following the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for quite a while, and if this is so, then it is a pretty tightly held secret. Any reason to believe otherwise? Regards, Stephen Hilton [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Friday, Oct 10, 2003, at 14:21 US/Pacific, Stephen Hilton wrote: On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:09:39 -0700 Kevin Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe 10.3 is going to introduce a blessed ports system, which I'd imagine would immediately be adopted by Darwin. Just FYI. I have been following the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for quite a while, and if this is so, then it is a pretty tightly held secret. Any reason to believe otherwise? Don't really know how to answer your question. Yes, I believe a standard port system will be introduced with Panther, because I saw it as an annouced feature on one of Apple's pages. Yes, I believe that any such system blessed by Apple would carry a massive amount of impetus if it's reasonably effective. So, yes, I have reason to believe otherwise. I guess we'll find out in two weeks. KeS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD on a Mac G3?
On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 09:09AM, Mykroft Holmes IV [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While there is a Ports system for Darwin/OS X, called GNUDarwin, avoid it, as it is notorious for breaking the basic OS install without asking. or you can use the DarwinPorts collection, which has Apple support behind it (longtime FreeBSD users will recognize Jordan Hubbard is: he's on the DarwinPorts team). Fink is a better alternative, it's pretty much a port of the Debian package management system, with somewhat improved source handling. As it dumps all downloaded software in /sw, it doesn't break the base install. Very nifty. Works very well. I used Fink for quite a while but it seemed to lose focus on reliability. I moved to darwinports (which offers source code ports and packages) and it seems to work just fine. -- Paul Beard / 8040 27th Ave NE / Seattle WA 98115 / paulbeard [at] mac [ dot] com / 206 529 8400 weblog @ http://paulbeard.no-ip.org/movabletype/ ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]