Re: Upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the input, Eric and Kevin! I guess I'll start the process this evening and maybe everything will be through compiling by Monday in time for work! :) Thanks again! I've got the process in 2 scripts, and a brief evening is generally all that's required for the cvsup/buildworld and friends. Buildworld is two hours plus, IIRC, on my 1.7924 GHz desktop; buildkernel about 35 minutes on GENERIC, installkernel 1 minute. Since installworld is after the break/reboot, I don't know the exact time. It appears the last cycle was about 4 hours total, judging from the email timestamps, but that's with (probably), me working in X in the background, a pause between finishing kernel build and the reboot, etc. Now, "portupgrade -arR", OTOH, is a two-day+ to-do, at least if you only do it every 50-60 days or so. But that's a whole 'nother thread Kevin Kinsey -- Parallel lines never meet, unless you bend one or both of them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1
I have done both the binary upgrade and cvsup'd many times. Which is better depends on your time and what version you are moving from and to. If you do a binary upgrade, you will only be at the release of the version, say 6.1, but with any current security releases. I typically upgrade a system to the base release using a binary upgrade, then will cvsup then build world, etc. to have it be current. -Derek At 12:15 PM 5/12/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has possibly been discussed a number of times, and if it has, I apologize. Here is my situation: I would like to upgrade my existing 6.0-SECURITY system to 6.1-RELEASE and continue using freebsd-update to keep my system on the up and up. I read through the upgrade instructions on disk #1 of the 6.1 release CD and wondered if that would be the easiest way to upgrade? From what I read, all of the configuration files for 6.1 would be in the /etc/upgrade folder. Would they have to stay there? Would 6.1, from this point forward, always have the /etc folder in /etc/upgrade? Do I copy new pieces back to /etc for the production system? I read about merging but does it merge from /etc to /etc/upgrade? Is another scenario to do the cvsup method and go that route? If I did, would I be able to use freebsd-update from that point forward or would I be limited to only using the cvsup method? I know both require merging config files and what not, which makes me a little nervous, but I would like the easiest method available. I love using FreeBSD and use it primarily on my laptop so compiling the entire OS on there may take a while so obviously the binary upgrade looks good. I am just unsure about the /etc/upgrade folder and how I get all of that back to /etc. I am somewhat a "noobert" in FreeBSD... I have been using it for less than a year and really enjoy it over my past Linux experiences. However, things like this make me nervous. This is my first upgrade of a machine I use *all* the time. Thanks in advance! Jeff Cross http://www.averageadmins.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1
Quoting "Zimmerman, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Freebsd-update works on my box (but theres been no updates as of yet). As long as you track RELEASE it should work fine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:10 PM To: Zimmerman, Eric Subject: RE: Upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 Quoting "Zimmerman, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Try this > > https://mikestammer.com/doku.php?id=updateos > > its what I wrote up for myself when I update > > worked for me from 6 to 6.1 and should meet your needs just fine > >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 12:15 PM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1 >> >> This has possibly been discussed a number of times, and if it has, I >> apologize. Here is my situation: >> >> I would like to upgrade my existing 6.0-SECURITY system to 6.1-RELEASE >> and continue using freebsd-update to keep my system on the up and up. >> I read through the upgrade instructions on disk #1 of the 6.1 release >> CD and wondered if that would be the easiest way to upgrade? >> >> From what I read, all of the configuration files for 6.1 would be in >> the /etc/upgrade folder. Would they have to stay there? Would 6.1, >> from this point forward, always have the /etc folder in /etc/upgrade? >> Do I copy new pieces back to /etc for the production system? I read >> about merging but does it merge from /etc to /etc/upgrade? >> >> Is another scenario to do the cvsup method and go that route? If I >> did, would I be able to use freebsd-update from that point forward or >> would I be limited to only using the cvsup method? >> >> I know both require merging config files and what not, which makes me >> a little nervous, but I would like the easiest method available. I >> love using FreeBSD and use it primarily on my laptop so compiling the >> entire OS on there may take a while so obviously the binary upgrade >> looks good. I am just unsure about the /etc/upgrade folder and how I >> get all of that back to /etc. >> >> I am somewhat a "noobert" in FreeBSD... I have been using it for less >> than a year and really enjoy it over my past Linux experiences. >> However, things like this make me nervous. This is my first upgrade >> of a machine I use *all* the time. >> >> Thanks in advance! >> >> Jeff Cross >> http://www.averageadmins.com/ >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions- >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Thanks! I will give this a try. But, before I do, can I still use freebsd-update to maintain my system from that point forward or will I have to use the cvsup method of updating? Jeff Cross http://www.averageadmins.com/ Thanks for the input, Eric and Kevin! I guess I'll start the process this evening and maybe everything will be through compiling by Monday in time for work! :) Thanks again! Jeff Cross http://www.averageadmins.com/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Upgrading from 6.0 to 6.1
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This has possibly been discussed a number of times, and if it has, I apologize. Here is my situation: Apology accepted ;-) :-D I would like to upgrade my existing 6.0-SECURITY system to 6.1-RELEASE and continue using freebsd-update to keep my system on the up and up. I read through the upgrade instructions on disk #1 of the 6.1 release CD and wondered if that would be the easiest way to upgrade? The canonical way is via a cvsup/buildworld procedure as outlined in the FreeBSD Handbook. There is also a "binary upgrade" option in sysinstall(8); I've never used it, never seen it discussed, and don't know how well it works. I have to assume it does until proven otherwise, though. From what I read, all of the configuration files for 6.1 would be in the /etc/upgrade folder. Would they have to stay there? Would 6.1, from this point forward, always have the /etc folder in /etc/upgrade? Do I copy new pieces back to /etc for the production system? I read about merging but does it merge from /etc to /etc/upgrade? mergemaster is the standard for upgrading /etc, though some other options exist. mergemaster, in general, takes the new source files from /usr/src/etc, sets up a temporary /etc/ tree under /var/temproot, and uses diff(1) to find/display differences between the two files. Generally, you want to accept new files if you've never changed the configuration file in question, and merge the old and new files for those you have modified. In some cases, the changes to the new files are trivial, in which case you ignore the new file or make the trivial changes manually later, if you're a perfectionist. IIRC, other tools exist to accomplish this, also. You might search the ports tree for "etcmerge", IIRC. As for /etc/upgrade, it doesn't exist on my system. Where did you read about it? Perhaps it's part of the sysinstall(8) "binary upgrade" procedure? Is another scenario to do the cvsup method and go that route? If I did, would I be able to use freebsd-update from that point forward or would I be limited to only using the cvsup method? I'm not yet familiar with Colin's fine update tool, but I don't think that they would in any way conflict (unless you attempted to use them simultaneously). Please refer to freebsd-update documentation for authoritative answers in this regard. The difference is that freebsd-update is an attempt to replace system binaries with a standard, secure set of newly-compiled binaries. cvsup/buildworld et al is an automated (well, semi-automated) procedure for rebuilding the system from its source code. I know both require merging config files and what not, which makes me a little nervous, but I would like the easiest method available. I love using FreeBSD and use it primarily on my laptop so compiling the entire OS on there may take a while so obviously the binary upgrade looks good. I am just unsure about the /etc/upgrade folder and how I get all of that back to /etc. Make a backup and go for it! Kevin Kinsey -- We should have a Vollyballocracy. We elect a six-pack of presidents. Each one serves until they screw up, at which point they rotate. -- Dennis Miller ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
