RE: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Michael Clark
Thats an old problem check the -current list for a libmap.conf discussion.


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-Original Message-
From: Gerry Freymann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 9:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question


How does one find out what port you need to install in order to get

libintl.so.5  ?

I've tried searching the online archives but can't find anything relevant.
I'm trying to get apsfilter installed and it complains that libintl.so.5
can't be found. I must have had it one time because it was installed
before (then I decided to update Mozilla which has had me running in
circles for two weeks now with portupgrade).

One other question... when I do a pkg_version -v, some programs are listed
twice, like:

autoconf-2.13.000227_5  =   up-to-date with port
autoconf-2.53_1 =   up-to-date with port

glib-1.2.10_10  =   up-to-date with port
glib-2.2.3_1=   up-to-date with port

libtool-1.3.5_1needs updating (port has 1.3.5_2)
libtool-1.4.3_2needs updating (port has 1.4.3_3)

libxml-1.8.17_1needs updating (port has 1.8.17_2)
libxml2-2.6.8   =   up-to-date with port

My guess is, when I first set up my FreeBSD 4.9R machine, I used
packages, and now I'm compiling ports. If you install a package and then
update it via the ports tree, doesn't it understand that it's updating a
package?

I have cvsup'd the ports tree, and I've run pkgdb -F to correct things.
Everything is running pretty good too (although I still have Mozilla).

Thanks in advance for your responses.
-gerry
 
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Gerry Freymann
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:56:56 -0500 
Michael Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|O|Thats an old problem check the -current list for a libmap.conf
|O|discussion.

 Awh, but isn't libmap.conf on FreeBSD v5+ (I'm running 4.9R).

 I should also say that I still *don't* have Mozilla running but thank
goodness for Konqueror ;-)

-gerry
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 10:53:48AM -0400, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 How does one find out what port you need to install in order to get
 
 libintl.so.5  ?

libintl.so is provided by the devel/gettext port.  Except that at the
moment it supplies libintl.so.6.  If you hang around on this list for
longer than a week, you'll see someone asking a variant on this
question, and the answer as oft repeated is:

# portupgrade -fr gettext

i.e. you need to recompile everything that links against libintl.so

Then wait for a few months for the next release of gettext, when
chances are the ABI version will be bumped again, and the lists will
once again fill with wails of despair libintl.so.6 not found...
 
 One other question... when I do a pkg_version -v, some programs are listed
 twice, like:
 
 autoconf-2.13.000227_5  =   up-to-date with port
 autoconf-2.53_1 =   up-to-date with port
 
 glib-1.2.10_10  =   up-to-date with port
 glib-2.2.3_1=   up-to-date with port
 
 libtool-1.3.5_1needs updating (port has 1.3.5_2)
 libtool-1.4.3_2needs updating (port has 1.4.3_3)
 
 libxml-1.8.17_1needs updating (port has 1.8.17_2)
 libxml2-2.6.8   =   up-to-date with port

That's because you've got multiple versions of those ports installed
simultaneously.  Which is fine, for all of the examples you show, as
they are all designed to be able to do that.  In answer to your next
question: no, generally you cannot get rid of one of those versions
and have everything just use the other one -- the *reason* that there
are multiple versions in the ports tree is that they are there to
support various programs which have to use a newer or an older
version.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Gerry Freymann
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 16:22:46 +0100
Matthew Seaman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|O|libintl.so is provided by the devel/gettext port.  Except that at the
|O|moment it supplies libintl.so.6.
|O|# portupgrade -fr gettext

 I could have sworn I've already done this. Probably did, but something
else mucked it up. I'll have the computer do this again and see what
happens.

|O|That's because you've got multiple versions of those ports installed
|O|simultaneously.  Which is fine, for all of the examples you show, as
|O|they are all designed to be able to do that. 

 Sounds good then.

 Thanks for your response. 

-gerry
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Gerry Freymann
After doing a portupgrade -rf gettext...

I went back to trying to install the apsfilter port. It would drop into
/print/teTeX and /print/html2ps-letter and stop again with the
libintl.so.5 not found error.

If I build apsfilter without select HTML (which no longer makes it want
teTeX and html2ps-letter) then apsfilter installs OK.

Should I report this to the port manager?

-gerry
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 05 April 2004 11:27 am, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 After doing a portupgrade -rf gettext...

 I went back to trying to install the apsfilter port. It would drop
 into /print/teTeX and /print/html2ps-letter and stop again with the
 libintl.so.5 not found error.

 If I build apsfilter without select HTML (which no longer makes it
 want teTeX and html2ps-letter) then apsfilter installs OK.

 Should I report this to the port manager?

No, it means you didn't do a 
portupgrade -rf gettext

and that isn't a portmgr problem.

Kent

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Gerry Freymann
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:36:42 -0700
Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|O|No, it means you didn't do a 
|O|portupgrade -rf gettext

 I *did* to a portupgrade -rf gettext. But you may be on the right
track regardless. There was one port skipped, /x11/kdelibs3. I have read
lots to do with the port while searching to fix my problem. 

 I suppose that's the next thing I should correct? and then I can finally
get back to trying to compile flashplugin_mozilla and all of its
requirements [which is where I started 2 weeks ago].

-gerry 
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Mon, Apr 05, 2004 at 02:27:50PM -0400, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 After doing a portupgrade -rf gettext...
 
 I went back to trying to install the apsfilter port. It would drop into
 /print/teTeX and /print/html2ps-letter and stop again with the
 libintl.so.5 not found error.

Something on your system links against libintl.so.5, and it would be
one of the normal dependencies of apsfilter, but it wasn't installed
as a port or pkg, so the ports system doesn't know how to update it?
Possibly.

 If I build apsfilter without select HTML (which no longer makes it want
 teTeX and html2ps-letter) then apsfilter installs OK.
 
 Should I report this to the port manager?

No -- I think something this obvious would have been noticed and fixed
in pretty short order.  Dollars to doughnuts it's something specific
to your machine which is causing the problem.

Cheers,

Matthew


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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 05 April 2004 01:36 pm, Kent Stewart wrote:
 On Monday 05 April 2004 11:27 am, Gerry Freymann wrote:
  After doing a portupgrade -rf gettext...
 
  I went back to trying to install the apsfilter port. It would drop
  into /print/teTeX and /print/html2ps-letter and stop again with the
  libintl.so.5 not found error.
 
  If I build apsfilter without select HTML (which no longer makes it
  want teTeX and html2ps-letter) then apsfilter installs OK.
 
  Should I report this to the port manager?

 No, it means you didn't do a
 portupgrade -rf gettext

 and that isn't a portmgr problem.

 Kent

The upgrade may have resulted in a later version, as my system is showing a 
libintl.so.6:

 ls /usr/local/lib/libintl.so*
/usr/local/lib/libintl.so   /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6

What would happen if a link called /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.5 was created to 
point to the existing libintl.so.* file on Gerry's system?

Andrew Gould
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 05 April 2004 11:44 am, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:36:42 -0700

 Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |O|No, it means you didn't do a
 |O|portupgrade -rf gettext

  I *did* to a portupgrade -rf gettext. But you may be on the right
 track regardless. There was one port skipped, /x11/kdelibs3. I have
 read lots to do with the port while searching to fix my problem.

  I suppose that's the next thing I should correct? and then I can
 finally get back to trying to compile flashplugin_mozilla and all of
 its requirements [which is where I started 2 weeks ago].


I expect that something out there is still trying to use gettext-1.12. 
FWIW, I thought I had jumped the gun with my comment and installed 
apsfilter with no options. I didn't have any problems. Glib-2 was 
upgraded recently and I have been building all of those and kdelibs is 
one of the ports affected. So far, the only port that didn't upgrade 
was mozilla-1.6. It is still looking for the old libglib. I also didn't 
have any problem updating kdelibs.

Kent

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 05 April 2004 11:51 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 On Monday 05 April 2004 01:36 pm, Kent Stewart wrote:
  On Monday 05 April 2004 11:27 am, Gerry Freymann wrote:
   After doing a portupgrade -rf gettext...
  
   I went back to trying to install the apsfilter port. It would
   drop into /print/teTeX and /print/html2ps-letter and stop again
   with the libintl.so.5 not found error.
  
   If I build apsfilter without select HTML (which no longer makes
   it want teTeX and html2ps-letter) then apsfilter installs OK.
  
   Should I report this to the port manager?
 
  No, it means you didn't do a
  portupgrade -rf gettext
 
  and that isn't a portmgr problem.
 
  Kent

 The upgrade may have resulted in a later version, as my system is
 showing a

 libintl.so.6:
  ls /usr/local/lib/libintl.so*

 /usr/local/lib/libintl.so   /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.6

 What would happen if a link called /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.5 was
 created to point to the existing libintl.so.* file on Gerry's system?


The library interface was changed and cross linking is a really bad 
idea.

Kent

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Gerry Freymann
On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:54:37 -0700
Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

|O|FWIW, I thought I had jumped the gun with my comment and installed 
|O|apsfilter with no options. I didn't have any problems. 

 Yes, worked here fine with only SAMBA as additional selections from the
defaults.

|O|Glib-2 was upgraded recently

 I have both:

glib-1.2.10_10  =   up-to-date with port
glib-2.2.3_1=   up-to-date with port

|O|was mozilla-1.6. It is still looking for the old libglib. I also
|O|didn't have any problem updating kdelibs.

 Hmmm, and it's Mozilla that I was trying to update in the first place.

 Thanks to a note from Michael Nottebrock about 2 weeks ago, I'm told a
good way to upgrade KDE is to:

pkg_delete -f quanta\* kdevelop\* kde\* arts\* qt\*
pkg_add -r kde

 My version of KDE is 3.14 so to update kdelibs3 I'm pretty well looking
at having to update all of KDE, right?

 Thanks again for the reply.

-Gerry

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Joshua Lokken
* Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-05 12:06]:
 On Monday 05 April 2004 11:51 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
 
  What would happen if a link called /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.5 was
  created to point to the existing libintl.so.* file on Gerry's system?
 
 
 The library interface was changed and cross linking is a really bad 
 idea.


I was able to work around the problem temporarily (on 4-stable) with
the above method (symlink), but Kent is probably right that it's not
an ideal solution.


-- 
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 05 April 2004 12:03 pm, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:54:37 -0700

 Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |O|FWIW, I thought I had jumped the gun with my comment and
 | installed O|apsfilter with no options. I didn't have any problems.

  Yes, worked here fine with only SAMBA as additional selections from
 the defaults.

 |O|Glib-2 was upgraded recently

  I have both:

 glib-1.2.10_10  =   up-to-date with port
 glib-2.2.3_1=   up-to-date with port

 |O|was mozilla-1.6. It is still looking for the old libglib. I also
 |O|didn't have any problem updating kdelibs.

  Hmmm, and it's Mozilla that I was trying to update in the first
 place.

Well, to get mozilla to build with the latest glib, I did a link I said 
not to do, i.e., 
ln -sf libglib-2.0.so.400 libglib-2.0.so.200

It is am using the new headers. It was the link part of the build that 
tried to use the wrong library. I am still trying to figure out what is 
wrong. That worries me less than a header for the old version of 
libintl being used to reference the new version.


  Thanks to a note from Michael Nottebrock about 2 weeks ago, I'm told
 a good way to upgrade KDE is to:

 pkg_delete -f quanta\* kdevelop\* kde\* arts\* qt\*
 pkg_add -r kde

  My version of KDE is 3.14 so to update kdelibs3 I'm pretty well
 looking at having to update all of KDE, right?


I just fought that battle on an old system using packages from a working 
system. Are you in for fun :). 

I finally did a portupgrade -Pufr expat twice before I got a good 
upgrade from 3.1.4 to 3.2.1. Copy the list of ports that don't update 
and use that file as a reference for things to fix.

The kde people's suggestion was probably an easier one. I had so much to 
update since I hadn't update that system since 4.9 was released.

Kent

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 05 April 2004 12:13 pm, Joshua Lokken wrote:
 * Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-05 12:06]:
  On Monday 05 April 2004 11:51 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
   What would happen if a link called /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.5
   was created to point to the existing libintl.so.* file on Gerry's
   system?
 
  The library interface was changed and cross linking is a really bad
  idea.

 I was able to work around the problem temporarily (on 4-stable) with
 the above method (symlink), but Kent is probably right that it's not
 an ideal solution.

It is worse than that. It is how off by one or many security problems 
crop up. You call a library function and it doesn't return what you 
think it was returning.

Find out what is wrong and fix the problem.

Kent

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 05 April 2004 12:03 pm, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:54:37 -0700

 Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |O|FWIW, I thought I had jumped the gun with my comment and
 | installed O|apsfilter with no options. I didn't have any problems.

  Yes, worked here fine with only SAMBA as additional selections from
 the defaults.

 |O|Glib-2 was upgraded recently

  I have both:

 glib-1.2.10_10  =   up-to-date with port
 glib-2.2.3_1=   up-to-date with port


I missed this part. The latest version is now glib-2.4.0. When I updated 
to it, is when the fun began. If you don't need to update glib, I would 
fight your upgrade through before you add additional problems.

Kent
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 05 April 2004 02:23 pm, Kent Stewart wrote:
 On Monday 05 April 2004 12:13 pm, Joshua Lokken wrote:
  * Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004-04-05 12:06]:
   On Monday 05 April 2004 11:51 am, Andrew L. Gould wrote:
What would happen if a link called /usr/local/lib/libintl.so.5
was created to point to the existing libintl.so.* file on Gerry's
system?
  
   The library interface was changed and cross linking is a really bad
   idea.
 
  I was able to work around the problem temporarily (on 4-stable) with
  the above method (symlink), but Kent is probably right that it's not
  an ideal solution.

 It is worse than that. It is how off by one or many security problems
 crop up. You call a library function and it doesn't return what you
 think it was returning.

 Find out what is wrong and fix the problem.

 Kent

Thank you for the warning and example.

Andrew Gould
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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Kent Stewart
On Monday 05 April 2004 12:37 pm, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:29:38 -0700

 Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |O|  I have both:
 |O|
 |O| glib-1.2.10_10  =   up-to-date with port
 |O| glib-2.2.3_1=   up-to-date with port
 |O|
 |O|
 |O|I missed this part. The latest version is now glib-2.4.0. When I
 |O|updatedto it, is when the fun began. If you don't need to update
 |O|glib, I would fight your upgrade through before you add
 | additional O|problems.

  Hmmm. I program on this box all day long so perhaps I'll wait 'till
 the weekend before I kill off KDE ;-)


That is probably a good idea big grin. Kde-3.2.1 takes a long time to 
build and programming from the cli is similar to calling ed a screen 
editor. I think the upgrade is worth it. It just takes a while to do.

One more thing. After the upgrade from kde-3.1.4 to 3.2.1, most of the 
application buttons were messed up. I finally did an rm -rf .kde* from 
my home directory. Make sure you have your email address book and 
bookmarks saved before you do anything drastic like that.

Kent 

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Re: libintl.so.5 not found and general ports question

2004-04-05 Thread Andrew L. Gould
On Monday 05 April 2004 02:03 pm, Gerry Freymann wrote:
 On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 11:54:37 -0700

 Kent Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |O|FWIW, I thought I had jumped the gun with my comment and installed
 |O|apsfilter with no options. I didn't have any problems.

  Yes, worked here fine with only SAMBA as additional selections from the
 defaults.

 |O|Glib-2 was upgraded recently

  I have both:

 glib-1.2.10_10  =   up-to-date with port
 glib-2.2.3_1=   up-to-date with port

 |O|was mozilla-1.6. It is still looking for the old libglib. I also
 |O|didn't have any problem updating kdelibs.

  Hmmm, and it's Mozilla that I was trying to update in the first place.

  Thanks to a note from Michael Nottebrock about 2 weeks ago, I'm told a
 good way to upgrade KDE is to:

 pkg_delete -f quanta\* kdevelop\* kde\* arts\* qt\*
 pkg_add -r kde

  My version of KDE is 3.14 so to update kdelibs3 I'm pretty well looking
 at having to update all of KDE, right?

  Thanks again for the reply.

 -Gerry

It's easy to get lost in the syncing mess.

I'm running 4.9 STABLE, that was originally installed from a FreeBSD 4.7 CD.  
I've kept the system updated via cvsup; but twice have cleaned/sync'd the 
system up as follows:

0. Make backups of system and dump files for version-sensitive objects such as 
database files, etc.
1. Update the system via cvsup.
2. Compile and install updated system and kernel.
3. Get a list of installed packages using pkg_info.
4. From step 3, make a list of packages that I installed **explicitly**. (I 
ignore dependencies -- pkg_add and ports will resolve these.)
5. From step 4, divide the list into packages to be compiled and packages that 
can be installed using binaries.  (I only compile a couple of apps.)
6. Write a script to install the packages (from binaries) via 'pkg_add -r'
7. Delete all packages using 'pkg_delete -a' and reboot.
8. Install python.  (I wrote the script in python.)
9. Reinstall packages using script in step 6.
10. Reinstall packages to be compiled manually from ports.

Steps 3-5 give me the opportunity to omit packages I no longer use.

I've used 'portupgrade -arRP'; but it still seems to compile a lot of packages 
and it won't help me prepare for a clean jump to FreeBSD 5*.

I've been keeping the lists of packages up-to-date, on a floppy for when I 
install FreeBSD 5* (STABLE).  I'll do a clean system installation; and then 
I'll install the packages I want from the list.

Best of luck,

Andrew Gould
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