Re: FreeBSD Boot

2011-03-21 Thread Ilya Kazakevich
You can use "fdisk -B" to install non-interactive boot manager. Or you can
use -t in boot0cfg to make timeout equals to zero.
If after it you STILL have "F1" -- you probably boot from another drive: not
da0 but da1. How many drives do you have? Check your BIOS settings to find
which drive you boot from.

Ilya.

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Michael Klapheke wrote:

> Hi.  I know this subject has been addressed in other posts, but I cannot
> seem to get it to work.  I have inherited a FreeBSD server and I cannot get
> it to boot properly.  I read the articles on avoiding having to press the F1
> key, and I tried to follow the suggestions (note, my disks are labeled
> "da0s1" etc.  instead of "ad0") as in the following:
>
> boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0
>
> or even
>
> fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0
>
> Neither of these prevents the user from having to press the F1 key.
>
> I also read the tutorial on how FreeBSD boots, but I cannot find anything
> that helps.
>
> Any assistance is appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
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Re: FreeBSD Boot

2011-03-21 Thread Ivan Voras

On 21/03/2011 13:48, Michael Klapheke wrote:

Hi.  I know this subject has been addressed in other posts, but I cannot seem to get it to work.  I 
have inherited a FreeBSD server and I cannot get it to boot properly.  I read the articles on 
avoiding having to press the F1 key, and I tried to follow the suggestions (note, my disks are 
labeled "da0s1" etc.  instead of "ad0") as in the following:

boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0

or even

fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0

Neither of these prevents the user from having to press the F1 key.


It's not a configurable parameter of the boot loader, you need a 
different boot loader ("default").


However, why is that a problem? The user doesn't *have* to press the F1 
key, he can just wait 5 seconds or so and the boot will proceed with the 
last boot choice.



I also read the tutorial on how FreeBSD boots, but I cannot find anything that 
helps.


T think the relevant lines from boot0cfg(8) are:

 To go back to non-interactive booting, use fdisk(8) to install the
 default MBR:

   fdisk -B ad0

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Re: FreeBSD Boot

2011-03-21 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

you have a bootmanager installed.

On Monday 21 March 2011 19:48:27 Michael Klapheke wrote:
> Hi.  I know this subject has been addressed in other posts, but I cannot seem 
> to get it to work.  I have inherited a FreeBSD server and I cannot get it to 
> boot properly.  I read the articles on avoiding having to press the F1 key, 
> and I tried to follow the suggestions (note, my disks are labeled "da0s1" 
> etc.  instead of "ad0") as in the following:
> 

da are SCSI disks, ad are ATA disks.

> boot0cfg -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0
> 
> or even
> 
> fdisk -B -b /boot/boot0 /dev/da0
> 

Just start sysinstall and write a plain mbr without a boot manager.

> Neither of these prevents the user from having to press the F1 key.

Of course not.

Erich
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Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition

2009-12-23 Thread Michel Le Cocq
Ruben de Groot a écrit:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:51:39PM +0100, Michel Le Cocq typed:
> > I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under
> > kvm.
> > 
> > When booting under KVM i see this :
> > Booting From hard Disk...
> > Invalid partition
> > Invalid partition
> > No /boot/loader
> > 
> > FreeBSD/i386/Boot
> > Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
> > boot :
> > 
> > If i enter : 
> > boot : 0:ad(0,d)
> > 
> > it's ok and then :
> > Manual Root Filesystem Specification :
> > Mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1d
> > 
> > and it's finaly boot.
> > 
> > [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab
> > # Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass#
> > /dev/ad0s1b  none   swap  sw0 0
> > /dev/ad0s1d  /  ufs   rw1 1
> > /dev/ad0s1g  /local ufs   rw2 2
> > /dev/ad0s1e  /usr   ufs   rw2 2
> > /dev/ad0s1f  /var   ufs   rw2 2
> > /dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0
> > linproc /compat/linux/proc  linprocfs rw0 0
> > [r...@vbsdio ~]#
> > 
> > I need to change my master boot device or anything else.
> > But don't know what to do exactly.
> 
> Not sure, but I think boot0 only boots "a" partitions. So after
> you manually boot like above, go into bsdlabel and change ad0s1d
> into ad0s1a. Do the same in fstab.

I boot under liveFS then :
bsdlabel -e ad0s1
 change 'd' label to 'a'.
mount /dev/ad0s1a /mnt
edit /mnt/etc/fstab and change mount point of / to a.

It's now ok.
Thanks a lot.

--
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Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition

2009-12-23 Thread Rolf G Nielsen

Michel Le Cocq wrote:

I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under
kvm.

When booting under KVM i see this :
Booting From hard Disk...
Invalid partition
Invalid partition
No /boot/loader

FreeBSD/i386/Boot
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
boot :

If i enter : 
 	boot : 0:ad(0,d)


it's ok and then :
Manual Root Filesystem Specification :
Mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1d

and it's finaly boot.

[r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab
# Device Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass#
/dev/ad0s1b  none   swap  sw0 0
/dev/ad0s1d  /  ufs   rw1 1
/dev/ad0s1g  /local ufs   rw2 2
/dev/ad0s1e  /usr   ufs   rw2 2
/dev/ad0s1f  /var   ufs   rw2 2
/dev/acd0/cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0
linproc /compat/linux/proc  linprocfs rw0 0
[r...@vbsdio ~]#

I need to change my master boot device or anything else.
But don't know what to do exactly.

Thanks.

--
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Shouldn't the root fs be on the a partition?
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Re: FreeBSD boot invalid partition

2009-12-23 Thread Ruben de Groot
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 09:51:39PM +0100, Michel Le Cocq typed:
> I just dump a real host and try to restore it on a virtual host under
> kvm.
> 
> When booting under KVM i see this :
>   Booting From hard Disk...
>   Invalid partition
>   Invalid partition
>   No /boot/loader
>   
>   FreeBSD/i386/Boot
>   Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
>   boot :
>   
> If i enter : 
>   boot : 0:ad(0,d)
> 
> it's ok and then :
>   Manual Root Filesystem Specification :
>   Mountroot> ufs:/dev/ad0s1d
>   
> and it's finaly boot.
> 
> [r...@vbsdio ~]# cat /etc/fstab
> # Device   Mountpoint FStypeOptionsDump Pass#
> /dev/ad0s1b  none swap  sw0 0
> /dev/ad0s1d/  ufs   rw1 1
> /dev/ad0s1g/local ufs   rw2 2
> /dev/ad0s1e/usr   ufs   rw2 2
> /dev/ad0s1f/var   ufs   rw2 2
> /dev/acd0  /cdrom cd9660ro,noauto 0 0
> linproc /compat/linux/proclinprocfs rw0 0
> [r...@vbsdio ~]#
> 
> I need to change my master boot device or anything else.
> But don't know what to do exactly.

Not sure, but I think boot0 only boots "a" partitions. So after
you manually boot like above, go into bsdlabel and change ad0s1d
into ad0s1a. Do the same in fstab.
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread michael



Da Rock wrote:

On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
  

Hi Mike,

I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?

What I am asking, is, somehting like:

Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:


F1 Windows
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

-Grant



Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
Window$ and give up.
  
That is completely off the wall wrong. You can install FreeBSD first and 
then Windows and you CAN fix the boot issue yourself with the cd OR you 
can add it to windows loader. you're just wrting the bootsector. not 
hard to do.

I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun)
that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use
the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should
be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than
the rigmarole M$ go to.

Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
changed.

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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 10:08:02AM -0500, Jerry wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000
> Da Rock  wrote:
> 
> >On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> >> Hi Mike,
> >> 
> >> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
> >> 
> >> What I am asking, is, somehting like:
> >> 
> >> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using
> >> the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind
> >> up with:
> >> 
> >> F1 Windows
> >> F2 FreeBSD
> >> F5 Disk1
> >> 
> >> -Grant
> >
> >Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
> >and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
> >software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
> >Window$ and give up.
> >
> >I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the
> >pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic.
> >Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it
> >should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based
> >rather than the rigmarole M$ go to.
> >
> >Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
> >changed.
> 
> This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other
> versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and
> possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows.
> 
> Check out these two URLs for further information.
> 
> http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux
> http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freebsd/
> 
> You will also need the "sysutils/grub" port installed.

You can make it happen, but it is much more straightforward and less
troublesome to leave the MS stuff as the first slice on the disk
and put the other things after it reguardless of which MBR you use.

jerry


> 
> 
> -- 
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> ges...@yahoo.com
> 
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:20:50AM +1000, Da Rock wrote:

> On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> > Hi Mike,
> > 
> > I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
> > 
> > What I am asking, is, somehting like:
> > 
> > Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
> > sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:
> > 
> > F1 Windows
> > F2 FreeBSD
> > F5 Disk1
> > 
> > -Grant
> 
> Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
> and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
> software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
> Window$ and give up.

I don't think you read what he wrote carefully.
You are right in your statement about MS having to be first and
not accomodating any other system.   But, for those very reasons,
his statement is correct.   He has Win already on the disk.  He
wants to use the _FreeBSD_ system to write the _FreeBSD_ MBR
which will happily boot both MS-Win and FreeBSD.  

I boot MS quite regularly with the FreeBSD MBR.  It is the standard
recommended way of doing a dual boot.   The machine on which I am 
presently typing is dual boot with MS-XP and FreeBSD and it uses only 
the FreeBSD MBR with no problem.

jerry



> 
> I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun)
> that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use
> the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should
> be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than
> the rigmarole M$ go to.
> 
> Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
> changed.
> 
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:20:50 +1000
Da Rock  wrote:

>On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
>> Hi Mike,
>> 
>> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
>> 
>> What I am asking, is, somehting like:
>> 
>> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using
>> the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind
>> up with:
>> 
>> F1 Windows
>> F2 FreeBSD
>> F5 Disk1
>> 
>> -Grant
>
>Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
>and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
>software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
>Window$ and give up.
>
>I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the
>pun) that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic.
>Or use the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it
>should be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based
>rather than the rigmarole M$ go to.
>
>Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
>changed.

This primarily applies to Vista, although it might work with other
versions of Windows. It is possible to install FreeBSD or Linux, and
possibly other OS's prior to the installation of Microsoft's Windows.

Check out these two URLs for further information.

http://neosmart.net/wiki/display/EBCD/Linux
http://administratosphere.wordpress.com/2008/02/25/installing-grub-on-freebsd/

You will also need the "sysutils/grub" port installed.


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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
> 
> What I am asking, is, somehting like:
> 
> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
> sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:
> 
> F1 Windows
> F2 FreeBSD
> F5 Disk1
> 
> -Grant

Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
Window$ and give up.

I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun)
that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use
the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should
be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than
the rigmarole M$ go to.

Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
changed.

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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-16 Thread Da Rock
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> Grant Peel wrote:
> > Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?
> 
> I don't know.
> 
> It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a
> thing.
> 
> If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a
> floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way.
> If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work.

If memory serves, I believe there is an option to simply go to cli and
all the tools are there on the cd ready for you. I could be wrong or
outdated though- probably both... :)

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[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock

--- Begin Message ---
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
> 
> What I am asking, is, somehting like:
> 
> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
> sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:
> 
> F1 Windows
> F2 FreeBSD
> F5 Disk1
> 
> -Grant

Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
Window$ and give up.

I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun)
that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use
the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should
be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than
the rigmarole M$ go to.

Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
changed.
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[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock

--- Begin Message ---
On Fri, 2009-01-09 at 09:53 -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
> 
> What I am asking, is, somehting like:
> 
> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
> sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:
> 
> F1 Windows
> F2 FreeBSD
> F5 Disk1
> 
> -Grant

Not a chance- why do you think you have to install Window$ first? Gates
and his cronies aren't going to make it easy for you to install free
software, and so they make it as hard as possible hoping you'll install
Window$ and give up.

I haven't heard of anywhere that any of the freeloaders (pardon the pun)
that can boot a M$ system- only paid for software like Bootmagic. Or use
the M$ loader in window$ to boot other systems- strange that it should
be able to do that, but then most of the OSS is KISS based rather than
the rigmarole M$ go to.

Again, I could be outdated and/or wrong on this, but I doubt it has
changed.
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[Fwd: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager]

2009-01-15 Thread Da Rock

--- Begin Message ---
On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 21:44 -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> Grant Peel wrote:
> > Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?
> 
> I don't know.
> 
> It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a
> thing.
> 
> If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a
> floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way.
> If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work.

If memory serves, I believe there is an option to simply go to cli and
all the tools are there on the cd ready for you. I could be wrong or
outdated though- probably both... :)
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-10 Thread Tore Lund
gpeel wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and 
> Windows boot back. [snip]

I know it won't help you now, but for the general case:  It is a very
good idea to save MBRs.  Restoring an MBR is a quick and painless way to
bring back a former state of affairs.
-- 
Tore

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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-10 Thread Grant Peel

Jerry,

Maybe true. When this all started I used the ISO disk from the Symantec site 
to remove GoBack. I assumed in doing so ('unhooking GoBack from the MBR), 
that it would replace the original windows one.


It may also be worth noting that this disk -had- a recovery partition on it 
once upon a time. I have not idea weather this plays a parts in the latest 
woes.


Either way, I need to save the data (as I mentioed \I am doing), dd the disk 
to clear everything, and reinstall.


No biggies since I have not lost any data :-)

Thanks for all the help and I ideas though, this has been a learning safari!

-Grant
- Original Message - 
From: "Jerry McAllister" 

To: "gpeel" 
Cc: "Jerry McAllister" ; "Michael Copeland" 
; 

Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:52:07PM -0500, gpeel wrote:


Hi all,

Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and
Windows boot back.

I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the 
Fixboot,

Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc.

I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning 
the

Norton GoBack unhook.


If you read through my post on this, note the scenario I narrated.
It is quite possible that every time you run that GoBack thing, it
is putting back the wrong MBR from its corrupted stash.

jerry





When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about 
the
current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may 
loose

the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still
there, but not being used to boot.

Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the
process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am 
writting

this email through Konquerer!

Thank god for live file systems.

-Grant

On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?
> >>
> >
> > Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
> > other OSen nor being able to boot them   So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
> > which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.
> >
> > jerry
> >
> >
> has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to
> accomplish your task?
> >
> >> -Grant
> >>
> >> - Original Message - 
> >> From: "Kurt Buff" 

> >> To: "Grant Peel" 
> >> Cc: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel 
wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with
FreeBSD
> >>>> 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.
> >>>>
> >>>> In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
> >>>>
> >>>> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided 
> >>>> to

try
> >>>> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The
install
> >>>> went flawlessly.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is, when I boot up I get:
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 ??
> >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> >>>> F5 Disk1
> >>>>
> >>>> F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots
> >>>> perfectly.
> >>>> F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I
simply
> >>>> get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 ??
> >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> >>>> F5 Disk1
> >>>> _
> >>>>
> >>>> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
> >>>>
> >>>> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the 
> >>>> disk

> >>>> before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does
anything
> >>>> to the booting system.
> >>>>
> >>>> All suggestions welcome,
> >>>>
> >>>> -Grant
> >>>>
> >&

Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-10 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 12:52:07PM -0500, gpeel wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and 
> Windows boot back.
> 
> I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the Fixboot, 
> Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc.
> 
> I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning the 
> Norton GoBack unhook.

If you read through my post on this, note the scenario I narrated.
It is quite possible that every time you run that GoBack thing, it
is putting back the wrong MBR from its corrupted stash.

jerry



> 
> When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about the 
> current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may loose 
> the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still 
> there, but not being used to boot.
> 
> Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the 
> process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am writting 
> this email through Konquerer!
> 
> Thank god for live file systems.
> 
> -Grant
> 
> On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote
> > Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> > >
> > >   
> > >> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?
> > >> 
> > >
> > > Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
> > > other OSen nor being able to boot them   So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
> > > which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.
> > >
> > > jerry
> > >
> > >   
> > has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to 
> > accomplish your task?
> > >   
> > >> -Grant
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message - 
> > >> From: "Kurt Buff" 
> > >> To: "Grant Peel" 
> > >> Cc: 
> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  
> wrote:
> > >>>   
> > >>>> Hi all,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with 
> FreeBSD 
> > >>>> 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to 
> try 
> > >>>> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The 
> install 
> > >>>> went flawlessly.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The problem is, when I boot up I get:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> F1 ??
> > >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> > >>>> F5 Disk1
> > >>>>
> > >>>> F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots 
> > >>>> perfectly.
> > >>>> F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I 
> simply 
> > >>>> get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Like this:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> F1 ??
> > >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> > >>>> F5 Disk1
> > >>>> _
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
> > >>>> before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does 
> anything 
> > >>>> to the booting system.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> All suggestions welcome,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -Grant
> > >>>> 
> > >>> www.bootdisk.com
> > >>>
> > >>> Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
> > >>> write it out to a floppy disk.
> > >>>
> > >>> Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
> > >>> /mbr' - it

Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-10 Thread gpeel
Hi all,

Jusat to answer Mike's question, nothing is working to get the MBR and 
Windows boot back.

I ahve been to the windows recovery console many times and ran the Fixboot, 
Fixmbr commands, being very meticulous about the paramaters etc.

I ahve also tried reinstalling the FreeBSD boot manager, and rerunning the 
Norton GoBack unhook.

When I run the recovery console, and do the fixmbr, I get messages about the 
current MBR not being standard, and that if I install a new one, I may loose 
the partitions. So far, that is not true. The windows partition is still 
there, but not being used to boot.

Fortuneatley, I can see my windows partition in KNoppix, so I am in the 
process of getting the data moved to a backup drive. Indeed, I am writting 
this email through Konquerer!

Thank god for live file systems.

-Grant

On Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:30:53 -0500, Michael Copeland wrote
> Jerry McAllister wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?
> >> 
> >
> > Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
> > other OSen nor being able to boot them   So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
> > which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.
> >
> > jerry
> >
> >   
> has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to 
> accomplish your task?
> >   
> >> -Grant
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message - 
> >> From: "Kurt Buff" 
> >> To: "Grant Peel" 
> >> Cc: 
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
> >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  
wrote:
> >>>   
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>>
> >>>> I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with 
FreeBSD 
> >>>> 6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.
> >>>>
> >>>> In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
> >>>>
> >>>> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to 
try 
> >>>> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
> >>>>
> >>>> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The 
install 
> >>>> went flawlessly.
> >>>>
> >>>> The problem is, when I boot up I get:
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 ??
> >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> >>>> F5 Disk1
> >>>>
> >>>> F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots 
> >>>> perfectly.
> >>>> F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I 
simply 
> >>>> get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
> >>>>
> >>>> Like this:
> >>>>
> >>>> F1 ??
> >>>> F2 FreeBSD
> >>>> F5 Disk1
> >>>> _
> >>>>
> >>>> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
> >>>>
> >>>> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
> >>>> before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does 
anything 
> >>>> to the booting system.
> >>>>
> >>>> All suggestions welcome,
> >>>>
> >>>> -Grant
> >>>> 
> >>> www.bootdisk.com
> >>>
> >>> Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
> >>> write it out to a floppy disk.
> >>>
> >>> Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
> >>> /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
> >>> again.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
> >>> installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
> >>> that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.
> >>>
> >>> Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland



Jerry McAllister wrote:

On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:

  

Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?



Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
other OSen nor being able to boot them   So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.

jerry

  
has this issue been resolved? what route did you choose to accomplish 
your task?
  

-Grant

- Original Message - 
From: "Kurt Buff" 

To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager




On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:
  

Hi all,

I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 
6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.


In that machine, there is one SATA drive.

On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.


During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
went flawlessly.


The problem is, when I boot up I get:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots 
perfectly.

F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.

F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply 
get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.


Like this:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1
_

Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?

It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything 
to the booting system.


All suggestions welcome,

-Grant


www.bootdisk.com

Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
write it out to a floppy disk.

Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
again.

Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Derek Funk
From the point the message below, I would set up freebsd to give me a 
graphical gui so I can use gparted to unflag the bsd partition as boot 
and flag the windows as boot.  Before restarting, I would copy 
/boot/boot1 to somewhere accessible by windows named something like 
freebsd.boot.

Then I'd set up the NT boot loader:
   right click on my computer... properties... advance tab... startup 
and recovery settings... click edit and add line

c:\freebsd.boot="FreeBSD" ---> filename of what /boot/boot1 was copied to.

This should have gotten to dual booting windows and freebsd, but using 
the nt boot loader.


 Original Message 
Subject:FreeBSD Boot Manager
Date:   Thu, 8 Jan 2009 20:17:15 -0500
From:   Grant Peel 
To: 



Hi all,

I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on 
my Windows XP SP3 box.

In that machine, there is one SATA drive.

On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it. 


During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went 
flawlessly.

The problem is, when I boot up I get:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly.
F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.

F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get the 
cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.

Like this:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1
_

Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?

It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I 
installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting 
system.

All suggestions welcome,

-Grant
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:33:12PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:

> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?

Maybe.But, MS software is notorious for not recognizing any
other OSen nor being able to boot them   So, use the FreeBSD fdisk
which will plant the FreeBSD MBR.

jerry


> 
> -Grant
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Kurt Buff" 
> To: "Grant Peel" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> 
> 
> >On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 
> >>6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.
> >>
> >>In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
> >>
> >>On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
> >>putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
> >>
> >>During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
> >>went flawlessly.
> >>
> >>The problem is, when I boot up I get:
> >>
> >>F1 ??
> >>F2 FreeBSD
> >>F5 Disk1
> >>
> >>F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots 
> >>perfectly.
> >>F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
> >>
> >>F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply 
> >>get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
> >>
> >>Like this:
> >>
> >>F1 ??
> >>F2 FreeBSD
> >>F5 Disk1
> >>_
> >>
> >>Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
> >>
> >>It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
> >>before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything 
> >>to the booting system.
> >>
> >>All suggestions welcome,
> >>
> >>-Grant
> >
> >www.bootdisk.com
> >
> >Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
> >write it out to a floppy disk.
> >
> >Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
> >/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
> >again.
> >
> >Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
> >installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
> >that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.
> >
> >Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:53:51AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:

> Hi Mike,
> 
> I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?
> 
> What I am asking, is, somehting like:
> 
> Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
> sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:
> 
> F1 Windows
> F2 FreeBSD
> F5 Disk1

Yup.   But, as I said in a previous post, use fixit and fdisk.
The F1 choice will probably say either  DOS  or  ??  instead
of Windows.DOS if it is a FAT or FAT32 file system, ?? if
it is an NTSF file system.

jerry


> 
> -Grant
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael Copeland" 
> To: "Grant Peel" 
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> 
> 
> >why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless 
> >you specifically need fbsd boot manager
> >
> >Grant Peel wrote:
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>For those that have been following this thread:
> >>
> >>I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
> >>-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
> >>-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
> >>   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
> >>   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive,
> >>
> >>-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
> >>-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,
> >>
> >>-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.
> >>
> >>Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager 
> >>again?
> >>
> >>THanks all,
> >>
> >>-Grant
> >>- Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" 
> >>To: "Grant Peel" 
> >>Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; 
> >>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
> >>Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> >>
> >>
> >>>Grant Peel wrote:
> >>>>So then,
> >>>>
> >>>>IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, 
> >>>>should
> >>>>we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then,
> >>>>use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?
> >>>
> >>>Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.
> >>>
> >>>Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Fri, Jan 09, 2009 at 09:40:58AM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> For those that have been following this thread:
> 
> I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
> -Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
> -The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
>-It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
>-So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive,
> 
> -As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
> -FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,
> 
> -I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.
> 
> Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again?

Boot fixit from CD.   
  
  Do:
fdisk -B  
  or maybe you need:
fdisk -iB

Then try to reboot.

These should only affect sector 0  which is where the MBR goes.

What is screwing you up is that Norton GoBack.   I haven't used it, 
but it probably works like previous recovery utilities for Norton.
It rewrites the MBR to only boot its own stuff instead of a standard
system boot and clobbers anything else there.It is supposed to
stash the original MBR somewhere and later put it back.  But it 
doesn't always work.   If it is initiated twice in a row, for example,
it saves the MBR and writes its own.   Then the next time it saves
the MBR (which is its own) which clobbers the original that it stashed
away and then writes its own MBR in the stash, thus making both copies
be its own MBR and the original is trashed.   

This is just one example of the way it can screw up that I have 
encountered (- and fixed using the FreeBSD fixit, even though it 
was an all Windows machine with no FreeBSD on it).   There are
probably more scenarios that end up with a similarly trashed MBR
from GoBack.

So, just try getting FreeBSD fixit to fix it.

jerry
> 
> THanks all,
> 
> -Grant
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Bertrand" 
> To: "Grant Peel" 
> Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; 
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> 
> 
> >Grant Peel wrote:
> >>So then,
> >>
> >>IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should
> >>we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then,
> >>use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?
> >
> >Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.
> >
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 09:37:28PM -0500, Grant Peel wrote:

> So then,
> 
> IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we 
> not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use 
> Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?

Maybe, but better to boot up the fixit and use fdisk to restore it.

jerry


> 
> -Grant
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Steve Bertrand" 
> To: "Kurt Buff" 
> Cc: "Grant Peel" ; 
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager
> 
> 
> >Kurt Buff wrote:
> >>On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:
> >
> >>>On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
> >>>putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
> >>>
> >>>During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
> >>>went flawlessly.
> >
> >>>Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
> >>>
> >>>It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
> >>>before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything 
> >>>to the booting system.
> >
> >>www.bootdisk.com
> >>
> >>Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
> >>write it out to a floppy disk.
> >>
> >>Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
> >>/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
> >>again.
> >>
> >>Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
> >>installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
> >>that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.
> >
> >Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk
> >/mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going
> >through the steps he did initially.
> >
> >AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration
> >programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code.
> >
> >If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely
> >done both:
> >
> >- broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and;
> >- made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager
> >
> >If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the
> >Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again.
> >
> >You sound courageous, give 'er!
> >
> >
> >Steve
> >
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 05:23:01PM -0800, Kurt Buff wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 
> > on my Windows XP SP3 box.
> >
> > In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
> >
> > On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
> > putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
> >
> > During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
> > went flawlessly.
> >
> > The problem is, when I boot up I get:
> >
> > F1 ??
> > F2 FreeBSD
> > F5 Disk1
> >
> > F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots 
> > perfectly.
> > F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
> >
> > F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get 
> > the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
> >
> > Like this:
> >
> > F1 ??
> > F2 FreeBSD
> > F5 Disk1
> > _
> >
> > Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
> >
> > It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before 
> > I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the 
> > booting system.
> >
> > All suggestions welcome,
> >
> > -Grant
> 
> www.bootdisk.com
> 
> Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
> write it out to a floppy disk.
> 
> Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
> /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
> again.
> 
> Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
> installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
> that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.

You should be able to do the same thing with a FreeBSD fixit.
Sounds like something got corrupted with the MBR or a boot record
somewhere.   But, the FreeBSD MBR should boot XP just fine.  The
machine I am typing on is dual boot with FreeBSD and XP (plus a Dell
maintenance slice).All boot with no problem using the FreeBSD MBR.
So, using fdisk to reinstall the MBR might help.

jerry


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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland
well, there are many "easy" ways. one is to install an IFS version of 
UFS, if you're using ufs. that way windows can read the ufs slices and 
you can grab your file that way.


Grant Peel wrote:

Mike,

In order to do that, I need to be able to get the the "/boot/boot1" 
file that is located in the root of the FreeBSD installation. As of 
right now, I cant get to it, because I can't boot to FreeBSD (chicken 
and egg).


Any ideas?

-Grant

In the instructions link you sent:

9.10. How can I use the Windows NT® loader to boot FreeBSD?
The general idea is that you copy the first sector of your native root 
FreeBSD partition into a file in the DOS/Windows NT partition. 
Assuming you name that file something like c:\bootsect.bsd (inspired 
by c:\bootsect.dos), you can then edit the c:\boot.ini file to come up 
with something like this:


[boot loader]
timeout=30
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows NT"
C:\BOOTSECT.BSD="FreeBSD"
C:\="DOS"
If FreeBSD is installed on the same disk as the Windows NT boot 
partition simply copy /boot/boot1 to C:\BOOTSECT.BSD. However, if 
FreeBSD is installed on a different disk /boot/boot1 will not work, 
/boot/boot0 is needed.








- Original Message - From: "Michael Copeland" 


To: "Grant Peel" 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Hello Grant,

What I am suggesting is adding a freebsd entry to your windows boot 
loader. it is quite easy.

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/faq/disks.html#NT-BOOTLOADER
rather than having to deal with using sysinstall, usually its just as 
simple to add these entries to the windows loader.




Grant Peel wrote:

Hi Mike,

I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?

What I am asking, is, somehting like:

Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using 
the sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind 
up with:


F1 Windows
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

-Grant



- Original Message - From: "Michael Copeland" 


To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager


why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. 
unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager 
install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original 
C-Drive,


-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot 
manager again?


THanks all,

-Grant
- Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" 


To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; 


Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into 
windows, should
we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, 
then,

use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland
also, doing it the way i suggested will still give you the option to 
re-select windows, and then from there right back to freebsd is you 
accidentally hit the wrong button. creates a nice loop.

eg: machine boots, windows shows you "Windows XP" or "FreeBSD"
you select FreeBSD, you get the menu you want from there
F1 FreeBSD
F2 Microsoft Windows
F5 DiskX
Selecting windows will take you back to the windows loader, and then you 
could select windows or freebsd.


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi Mike,

I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?

What I am asking, is, somehting like:

Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:


F1 Windows
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

-Grant



- Original Message - From: "Michael Copeland" 


To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager


why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. 
unless you specifically need fbsd boot manager


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original 
C-Drive,


-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot 
manager again?


THanks all,

-Grant
- Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" 
To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, 
should
we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, 
then,

use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Grant Peel

Hi Mike,

I am not at all sure whate you are suggesting here?

What I am asking, is, somehting like:

Can I reboot the machine with the FreeBSD install disk, and using the 
sysinstall utility, reinstall the freebsd boot manger so I wind up with:


F1 Windows
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

-Grant



- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Copeland" 

To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: 
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager


why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless 
you specifically need fbsd boot manager


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive,

-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager 
again?


THanks all,

-Grant
- Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" 
To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, 
should

we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then,
use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Michael Copeland
why not just add loader or whatever to the windows boot loader.. unless 
you specifically need fbsd boot manager


Grant Peel wrote:

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive,

-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager 
again?


THanks all,

-Grant
- Original Message - From: "Steve Bertrand" 
To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, 
should

we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then,
use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-09 Thread Grant Peel

Hi all,

For those that have been following this thread:

I now have Norton GoBack uninstalled and un-hooked from the MBR
-Had to go to Symantec and get a rescue disk,
-The rescue disk tried to un-hook GOBAck from the MBR,
   -It found the MBR borken (due to the FreeBSD Boot Manager install),
   -So the rescue disk ran all night restoring the original C-Drive,

-As of this morning, I once again have a bottoable windows system,
-FreeBSD 6.4 is intalled, but,

-I have not boot manager so I cant get to the FReeBSD installation.

Can someone (please!) explain how to install the FreeBSD boot manager again?

THanks all,

-Grant
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Bertrand" 

To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: "Kurt Buff" ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Grant Peel wrote:

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should
we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then,
use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
Grant Peel wrote:
> Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?

I don't know.

It's been $years since I've had to use a Windows install CD for such a
thing.

If it's win32, my experience would have me recommend just booting from a
floppy of a win boot disk to restore the MBR. It's just quick that way.
If my memory serves right, even a win98 boot disk should work.

Why load up all of the unneeded Windows device drivers and other stuff,
if you can just 'fix' it?

IIRC, just to get to the `Recovery Console' (if you please) takes many,
many minutes.

Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
Grant Peel wrote:
> So then,
> 
> IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should
> we not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then,
> use Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?

Yes, that is exactly what I was getting at.

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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-08 Thread Grant Peel

So then,

IF we are able to restore the Windows MBR, and boot into windows, should we 
not be able to boot the machine with a bootable FreeBSD disk, then, use 
Sysinstall to restore the FreeBSD boot manager?


-Grant

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Bertrand" 

To: "Kurt Buff" 
Cc: "Grant Peel" ; 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



Kurt Buff wrote:

On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:


On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.


During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
went flawlessly.



Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?

It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything 
to the booting system.



www.bootdisk.com

Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
write it out to a floppy disk.

Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
again.

Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.


Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk
/mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going
through the steps he did initially.

AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration
programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code.

If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely
done both:

- broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and;
- made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager

If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the
Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again.

You sound courageous, give 'er!


Steve



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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-08 Thread Grant Peel

Can I use a windows install cd's "R" option to do the fdisk /mbr ?

-Grant

- Original Message - 
From: "Kurt Buff" 

To: "Grant Peel" 
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager



On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:

Hi all,

I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 
6.4 on my Windows XP SP3 box.


In that machine, there is one SATA drive.

On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.


During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
went flawlessly.


The problem is, when I boot up I get:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1

F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots 
perfectly.

F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.

F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply 
get the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.


Like this:

F1 ??
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk1
_

Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?

It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk 
before I installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything 
to the booting system.


All suggestions welcome,

-Grant


www.bootdisk.com

Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
write it out to a floppy disk.

Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
again.

Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-08 Thread Steve Bertrand
Kurt Buff wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:

>> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
>> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
>>
>> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install 
>> went flawlessly.

>> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
>>
>> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I 
>> installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the 
>> booting system.

> www.bootdisk.com
> 
> Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
> write it out to a floppy disk.
> 
> Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
> /mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
> again.
> 
> Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
> installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
> that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.

Technically (theoretically) speaking, using a Win32 boot disk to fdisk
/mbr, he should be able to re-initialize the FBSD boot loader by going
through the steps he did initially.

AFAIR, Symantec GoBack, along with many other 'in-disk' restoration
programs, overwrite the boot sector with its own code.

If the OP can boot back into Windows with the fdisk /mbr, he has likely
done both:

- broke his GoBack program's ability to recover, and;
- made it possible to restore the FBSD boot manager

If Windows boots after following Kurt's recommendation of restoring the
Windows MBR, back up your Windows system, then try FreeBSD again.

You sound courageous, give 'er!


Steve
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Manager

2009-01-08 Thread Kurt Buff
On Thu, Jan 8, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Grant Peel  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was bored earlier tonight and I decided to tinker a bit with FreeBSD 6.4 on 
> my Windows XP SP3 box.
>
> In that machine, there is one SATA drive.
>
> On that drive, there was about 100 GB of free space, so I decided to try 
> putting FreeBSD 6.4 on it.
>
> During the install, I opted to use the Free BSD boot manage. The install went 
> flawlessly.
>
> The problem is, when I boot up I get:
>
> F1 ??
> F2 FreeBSD
> F5 Disk1
>
> F2, is obviously, the new installation of FreeBSD 6.4, which boots perfectly.
> F5 is a spare SCSI disk connected to an Initio controller.
>
> F1 is the probelem. Windose no longer boots. When I select F2, I simply get 
> the cursor on a new line, and nothing happens.
>
> Like this:
>
> F1 ??
> F2 FreeBSD
> F5 Disk1
> _
>
> Any idea what I might need to do to make windows work again?
>
> It may be worth mentioning, I had Norton GoBack running on the disk before I 
> installed FreeBSD, although I am not aware if it does anything to the booting 
> system.
>
> All suggestions welcome,
>
> -Grant

www.bootdisk.com

Find a bootable floppy image there that includes a DOS fdisk, and
write it out to a floppy disk.

Boot your machine with that floppy, and at the DOS prompt, type 'fdisk
/mbr' - it will write a standard boot sector, and Windows should boot
again.

Of course, this will not allow you to boot to your new FreeBSD
installation, but with other folks' help, you can probably overcome
that - probably with GRUB, or another boot manager.

Kurt
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Re: FreeBSD boot loader halts

2007-03-20 Thread youshi10

On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Simon Chang wrote:


My FBSD 6.2 freezes at random after printing Default: F1 I haven't
noticed this issue in the past with older versions of FreeBSD.
Since this is a random issue, it's very hard to pin point the culprit
by process of elimination (disabling APCI, etc...) After several
ctrl+alt+delete reboots, the system does boot. Once booted I can
run makeworld for a week without any issues. Perhaps a disk issue?
I'm booting off a MegaRAID controller. Though I cannot crash
the system using intensive IO after it boots. After it boots, it seems
to be rock solid, so I'm lost here.

Can boot loader be put into verbose mode and have it output
debugging info?


I don't know if there is a "debug" mode for the boot loader, but if
the problem is happening at random then I would want to investigate
hardware failures/malfunctions.  At any rate, no fully operational
machine should need "several ctrl+alt+delete reboots" for it to start
working.

Perhaps the problem happens when the BIOS is attempting to probe drive
controllers?  Have you tried to stress-test the system by doing a
"make buildworld"?

SC


This particular issue happened to me with the FreeBSD bootloader and grub on an 
ancient Pentium Pro machine I was using recently. I was able to correct the 
problem by using GAG (gag.sf.net) instead of the other bootloaders.

-Garrett

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Re: FreeBSD boot loader halts

2007-03-20 Thread Simon Chang

My FBSD 6.2 freezes at random after printing Default: F1 I haven't
noticed this issue in the past with older versions of FreeBSD.
Since this is a random issue, it's very hard to pin point the culprit
by process of elimination (disabling APCI, etc...) After several
ctrl+alt+delete reboots, the system does boot. Once booted I can
run makeworld for a week without any issues. Perhaps a disk issue?
I'm booting off a MegaRAID controller. Though I cannot crash
the system using intensive IO after it boots. After it boots, it seems
to be rock solid, so I'm lost here.

Can boot loader be put into verbose mode and have it output
debugging info?


I don't know if there is a "debug" mode for the boot loader, but if
the problem is happening at random then I would want to investigate
hardware failures/malfunctions.  At any rate, no fully operational
machine should need "several ctrl+alt+delete reboots" for it to start
working.

Perhaps the problem happens when the BIOS is attempting to probe drive
controllers?  Have you tried to stress-test the system by doing a
"make buildworld"?

SC
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Only CD.

2007-02-11 Thread Garrett Cooper

On Feb 11, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Grant Peel wrote:


Hi all,

I have downloaded the 6.2-RELEASE ISO images, (Disk 1, Disk 2, and  
Boot Only), and was wondering...


If I use the boot only CD to boot up the new server I am getting,  
can I use it to:


FDisk and Disklabel the new HD (SAS),


Yes.


ifconfig the NIC,


Yes.


Setup a network share (as a client),


Depends on what you mean by network share. If by nfs, then in a  
limited sense yes. SMB/CIFS, no.



Download DUMPS from an other machine,


No.


RESTORE those dumps,


No.

the aim here is to clone a previous machine. So what I guess I am  
asking is, does the boot only machine give us all the working tools  
as would a copy installed to the local bood HD?


-Grant


Not really. For that you need to create your own custom boot CDs.

-Garrett
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Re: FreeBSD Boot Problem on Multiple HDDs

2006-06-11 Thread Derek Ragona
You may need to do an upgrade reinstall.  It sounds like the boot block is 
foobar.  If you reinstall the same version using the upgrade option, that 
should take care of the problem.


-Derek


At 01:38 AM 6/11/2006, Sean M. wrote:

I just did my first ever bit of hardware hacking--salvaging a 6GB HDD
from a useless computer and installing it as a slave--and went and put
FreeBSD on it and a 3151MB partition on the master drive, which already
had Windows 2000 Professional SP1. Here is how I chopped up the disks:

ad0s1: FAT32 W2K (I have since converted to NTFS)
ad0s2: /, swap, /tmp, /etc, and /var
ad1s1: /usr

The problem is that I can't start FreeBSD. When I get to the boot
loader, I see:

F1 DOS
F2 FreeBSD
F5 Disk 1

Pressing  starts the typical hardware listing, then I see:

Manual root filesystem specification
...
mountroot>

And the crux of the problem is that I can't type anything because the
keyboard is frozen! What can I do here?

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Re: FreeBSD Boot manager

2005-07-18 Thread Nicolas Blais
On July 18, 2005 07:26 pm, Jerry Tarwid wrote:
> I have installed FreeBSD on a box with Windows XP & I installed the FreeBSD
> Boot manager. My question is how do I get rid of the boot manager??? I want
> to uninstall FreeBSD & uninstall the boot manager so my computer will just
> boot windows. I have 2 SATA hard drives, drive 1 has XP on it & drive 2 has
> XP 64 & FreeBSD. I'm using NTFS on both Windows drives. When I installed
> FreeBSD I installed the boot manager & was able to boot into all 3 os's. I
> uninstalled FreeBSD & booted to recovery console & did "fixboot" & "fixmbr"
> & when I tried to boot up I get "boot failure" like the FreeBSD boot
> manager left something in the mbr that fixmbr can't overwrite??? I
> re-installed FreeBSD with the boot manager & am able to boot to all 3 os's
> once again. Can anyone help me???
>
> Thanks,
>
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Try from the command console (in XP or bootable disk):
"fdisk /mbr"

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Re: FreeBSD Boot up problem

2003-12-20 Thread Cybertime Hostmaster
>Hi. I need some help. Today, i accidently forgot to eject the freebsd
>cd from my drive and it ended up booting up to the installation menu.
>I exited the installation menu without doing anything. WHen i booted
>up again, all I got was a "GRUB" message and then my comptuer stopped
>booting. Is there anyway to fix this?

Off hand, I would say your grub boot loader is misconfigured.

This is a guess since I do not use grub.

A quick search found the following sites:

http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/

http://geodsoft.com/howto/dualboot/grub.htm

I would take a look there and see what you find.

--Eric

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