Re: KDE, FreeBSD fish

2004-12-06 Thread Kirk Strauser
On Monday 06 December 2004 06:37 pm, Adam Smith wrote:
 I've used Konqueror many times before to connect from abroad to my machine
 at home using fish://.

This isn't answering your question, but:

Why would you be using fish:// instead of sftp://?  Think of fish as a 
workaround for systems where you have SSH access but there is no SFTP server 
running.  This is not true on (even halfway recent) FreeBSD systems where 
SFTP is enabled by default.

Anyway, if you're dead set on using it, see if you can enabled verbose logging 
either on the client or the server.  Fish works by ssh'ing to a shell on your 
system and running cd, ls, cat, and so on to get directory listings and the 
contents of files.  If there is a problem with one of these commands, then 
there you go.
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Re: KDE, FreeBSD fish

2004-12-06 Thread Chris
Adam Smith wrote:
I've used Konqueror many times before to connect from abroad to my machine
at home using fish://.
Sometimes this works, and sometimes it doesn't.  I've had several
reinstallations on my laptop over the last few months for a few various
reasons, and I've noticed that on some installations it 'just works' and on
some it doesn't.
I'm connecting from KDE 3.3 on FreeBSD 5.3 to a FreeBSD 5.2.1 machine.  All
I get in my output in the status bar is 'Connecting...' before it
eventually times out.
Yup, I can SSH in normally from this location.  Fish just doesn't work.  So
is this feature dodgy as far as anyone knows?  It's a real pain in the arse
when it doesn't work, because fish is extraordinarily handy for copying
files using a GUI without having to implement something like FTP.  So how
irritating when it doesn't work :-)

PS: I've never been so sure as to where to post queries like this --
freebsd-questions or one of the KDE mailing lists, or both.  But I guess it
can't hurt to post to either.  And I choose here :)

KBear (/usr/ports/ftp/kbear) support sftp - so does gFTP 
(/usr/ports/ftp/gftp)

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Re: KDE, FreeBSD fish

2004-12-06 Thread Adam Smith
On Mon, Dec 06, 2004 at 07:02:08PM -0600, Kirk Strauser said:
 On Monday 06 December 2004 06:37 pm, Adam Smith wrote:
  I've used Konqueror many times before to connect from abroad to my machine
  at home using fish://.
 
 This isn't answering your question, but:
 
 Why would you be using fish:// instead of sftp://?  Think of fish as a 
 workaround for systems where you have SSH access but there is no SFTP server 
 running.  This is not true on (even halfway recent) FreeBSD systems where 
 SFTP is enabled by default.

Because it's easier than enabling SFTP on a number of hosts :)

I have found in playing around that *sometimes* it works and *sometimes* it
doesn't.  I have used debug mode for sshd on my broken box and fish://
passes the username correctly, but still gets an auth fail.  Strange.
Works in other places.

Unfortunately I don't have any conclusive results leading me to a logical
and replicable problem, but I still might report it as a bug.

 Anyway, if you're dead set on using it, see if you can enabled verbose 
 logging 
 either on the client or the server.  Fish works by ssh'ing to a shell on your 
 system and running cd, ls, cat, and so on to get directory listings and the 
 contents of files.  If there is a problem with one of these commands, then 
 there you go.

And that's why I like fish -- cos it doesn't need anything special running
to connect to a remote host! :)



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Re: KDE, FreeBSD fish

2004-12-06 Thread martin hudec
Hello,

On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 02:26:09PM +1030 or thereabouts, Adam Smith wrote:
 And that's why I like fish -- cos it doesn't need anything special running
 to connect to a remote host! :)

You like fish? Even with that nasty bug in KDE which makes any kind
of work with files with size lower than 1024 bytes impossible? That
applies also to sftp as I've heard. And as it seems there is noone in
KDE team to fix this bug (possibly kio stuff), guys across the river
in Gentoo Linux distro have decided to take matters into their hands
and at least they have been able to fix sftp kio problem with such
files. Maybe this is indication that sftp is more useful than fish.


Cheers,

Martin

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Re: KDE, FreeBSD fish

2004-12-06 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Tue, Dec 07, 2004 at 02:26:09PM +1030, Adam Smith wrote:
 I have found in playing around that *sometimes* it works and *sometimes* it
 doesn't.  I have used debug mode for sshd on my broken box and fish://
 passes the username correctly, but still gets an auth fail.  Strange.
 Works in other places.

Sometimes *sftp* fails when your ssh login is chatty -- maybe fish suffers
from the same problem. Check to see whether you have fortune, nfrm, or
other such outputting programs on that host in your login scripts.

HTH,

--Stijn

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