Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-21 Thread Warren Block
On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Erik Norgaard wrote: You can't check the white list before using RBL in Sendmail? Yes, you can, with entries in access.db marked with "OK". -Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-20 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Also this means that later filtering on the first Received field is double work: You already accepted the mail based on that information. In short: Writing header filtering rules for the Received field is simply waste of time and proof of inefficiency. I agree with thi

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
- Original Message - From: "Erik Norgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Beech Rintoul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 2:22 AM Subject: Re: Non English Spam > > Also this

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-17 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Spammers cannot forge the Received header that your own mailserver puts into the received message. The first Received line of the message is always legitimate. Please read my reply to Ian, who commented exactly the same. The Recieved headers are useless for filtering.

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-17 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
- Original Message - From: "Erik Norgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Beech Rintoul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 3:47 AM Subject: Re: Non English Spam > Ted Mittels

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Olivier Nicole
> I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea= > =2E=20 > Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characte= > rs=20 > and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filter on non-english= in /usr/local/etc/mail/spamassassin/v310.pre

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Sunday 15 October 2006 13:08, Erik Norgaard wrote: (SNIP) > Well, anyway, this only serves to enlighten another problem: That even > if you find the solution to rejecting non-Roman non-FreeBSD mail while > accepting everything from the list, people replying in those character > sets will see th

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Erik Norgaard
Erik Norgaard wrote: Ian Smith wrote: > So the ideal you mention is not an option until a complete public list > of authorized mail servers is available and all mail relayed through > these requires authentication. That's the 'solution' the mega players appear to be proposing. And who the

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Erik Norgaard
Gerard Seibert wrote: On Sunday October 15, 2006 at 03:21:37 (PM) Erik Norgaard wrote: Ian Smith wrote: [...] Maybe I didn't make clear how the filtering in Postfix works? Each header line is unwrapped and then filtered independent of the others. There is no info as to if that is the firs

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Gerard Seibert
On Sunday October 15, 2006 at 03:21:37 (PM) Erik Norgaard wrote: > Ian Smith wrote: [...] > Maybe I didn't make clear how the filtering in Postfix works? Each > header line is unwrapped and then filtered independent of the others. > There is no info as to if that is the first or last Received

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ian Smith wrote: Ted's talking about the _first_ Received header, see mine below. It's the only one you _can_ rely on, assuming your mailserver isn't lying to you. Subsequent headers, sure, all can be faked, trust noone .. :) Filtering on the Received header entries is waste of time: Only th

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Ian Smith
On Sun, 15 Oct 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 12:47:37 +0200 > From: Erik Norgaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english > >> encoded in one of the above character set

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Erik Norgaard
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write english encoded in one of the above character sets, I don't know enough about the character set definition, but it seems that English characters are a subset of any character set? What is the recommended poli

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-15 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Saturday 14 October 2006 16:58, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Erik Norgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Beech Rintoul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:38 AM > Subject: Re: Non

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-14 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
- Original Message - From: "Erik Norgaard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Beech Rintoul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 5:38 AM Subject: Re: Non English Spam > > I have noted however, that some subscribers to this list write

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-14 Thread Robert Huff
In checking this out, I came across this in "man spamassassin": ok_locales xx [ yy zz ... ](default: all) This option is used to specify which locales are considered OK for incoming mail. Mail using the character sets that are allowed by this

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-14 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Saturday 14 October 2006 05:12, Gerard Seibert wrote: > On Saturday 14 October 2006 09:04, Beech Rintoul wrote: > > Thank you. Your suggestion appears to be working. I was getting 75 or > > more of non-english spam daily and It was becoming a real pain in the > > backside to deal with. Now spama

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-14 Thread Beech Rintoul
On Friday 13 October 2006 19:09, Matthew Seaman wrote: > Beech Rintoul wrote: > > I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and > > Korea. Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english > > characters and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-14 Thread Erik Norgaard
Beech Rintoul wrote: I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filter on non-english either using Spam Assassin or procmail?

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-13 Thread Anders Gulden Olstad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Beech Rintoul wrote: > I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. > Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters > and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filter on non-

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
Beech Rintoul wrote: > I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. > Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters > and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filter on non-english > either using Spam Assassin or procma

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-13 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC
On Oct 13, 2006, at 7:12 PM, Beech Rintoul wrote: I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters I don't know what settings affect this but SpamAssassin actually catches most of th

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-13 Thread Brian
Paul Schmehl wrote: --On October 13, 2006 5:12:27 PM -0800 Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters and slows kmail to a crawl loading. I

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-13 Thread Eric
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beech Rintoul wrote: I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filter on non-english either using Spam

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Schmehl
--On October 13, 2006 5:12:27 PM -0800 Beech Rintoul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filt

Re: Non English Spam

2006-10-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beech Rintoul wrote: I'm getting a ton of spam every day that comes from China, Japan and Korea. Spam Assassin completely ignores it because it has all non-english characters and slows kmail to a crawl loading. Is there a way to filter on non-english either using Spam Assassin or procmail?