Re: PCMCIA NIC
Original problem description: >>> ifconfig does not show the PCMCIA NIC (3Com 10/100, pretty standard and >>> works under Linux, so I expect it's supported), and after some looking I >>> think that I have the necessary kernel parameters built, but I'm >>> definitely missing something. One of several interesting replies: >FWIW, on my Thinkpad 600X w/ Linksys pcmcia, I had to use OLDCARD to >configure a kernel that would use the card. I may be missing the point, but >it might be worthy to note it also. Responses: It was suggested that I try ifconfig -a to see if the card was detected but not configured. It does not appear to be recognized. pccard_enabled="YES" was and is in my rc.conf, but that was a good suggestion. The card is found in dmesg, but I find a message that looks ominous: "32-bit cardbus not supported" or similar. I get the same message when I hotplug the card in. The card is a 3Com Megahertz 10/100 card, model number 3CCFE575BT I am disappointed to not see this card in /etc/defaults/pccard.conf I am running 4.8, and I suspect that this is obvious to the more knowledgable by this point. I don't quite know what to do with the suggestion that I use OLDCARD to configure a kernel. Could someone point me at some documentation? Request for Advice: If, in fact, I cannot use FreeBSD 4.8 and cardbus cards, am I better to get a 16-bit card (possibly tricky, I did some looking) or move to 5.x (which makes me, perhaps unnecessarily, nervous)? -- thanks to all, William ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCMCIA NIC
William, You can put pccardd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf. Or you can start it manually by typing pccardd -f /etc/defaults/pccard.conf SLM > I have FreeBSD installed on a laptop, but I am having trouble with > setting up networking. > > ifconfig does not show the PCMCIA NIC (3Com 10/100, pretty standard > and works under Linux, so I expect it's supported), and after some > looking I > think that I have the necessary kernel parameters built, but I'm > definitely missing something. > -- > > yours, > > William ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCMCIA NIC
At 07:55 AM 9/11/2003, you wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 01:21:18PM -0400, William O'Higgins wrote: > I have FreeBSD installed on a laptop, but I am having trouble with > setting up networking. > > ifconfig does not show the PCMCIA NIC (3Com 10/100, pretty standard and > works under Linux, so I expect it's supported), and after some looking I > think that I have the necessary kernel parameters built, but I'm definitely > missing something. > -- > > yours, > > William FWIW, on my Thinkpad 600X w/ Linksys pcmcia, I had to use OLDCARD to configure a kernel that would use the card. I may be missing the point, but it might be worthy to note it also. ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: PCMCIA NIC
On Thu, Sep 11, 2003 at 01:21:18PM -0400, William O'Higgins wrote: > I have FreeBSD installed on a laptop, but I am having trouble with > setting up networking. > > ifconfig does not show the PCMCIA NIC (3Com 10/100, pretty standard and > works under Linux, so I expect it's supported), and after some looking I > think that I have the necessary kernel parameters built, but I'm definitely > missing something. > -- > > yours, > > William Are you using `ifconfig -a'. If it's not configured then just plain `ifconfig' won't list it. Also, are you simply using a generic kernel? Anything interesting in the output of `dmesg'? Nathan -- gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys D8527E49 pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > Hmm. This will be difficult. If you can at least install a minimum > system by some other means, it will make life easier. Not difficult at all! FreeBSD 4.7 worked like a champ. All I had to do was insert two floppies and smoke cigarettes :) Thanks for your help! The install is done, and I'm typing this to you on the fresh install on the first boot up. If you want some extended info on this NIC or anything to help with the 5.0 effort, just tell me what you need and I'll send it off to you. Thanks again. .. mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Wednesday, 5 February 2003 at 23:23:59 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> You might possibly find 4.7 easier in this case. 5.0 has completely >> rewritten PC Card drivers, and it may be more difficult to get it to >> work there. > > Hmm, ok -- I'll try giving 4.7 a shot then. > >> No, you won't have /var/log/messages during installation. dmesg will >> be available via the Alt-F4 shell. Do you need the card at install >> time? It's easier to debug later. > > Unfortunately, yes .. I am hoping to do a network install. Hmm. This will be difficult. If you can at least install a minimum system by some other means, it will make life easier. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > You might possibly find 4.7 easier in this case. 5.0 has completely > rewritten PC Card drivers, and it may be more difficult to get it to > work there. Hmm, ok -- I'll try giving 4.7 a shot then. > No, you won't have /var/log/messages during installation. dmesg will > be available via the Alt-F4 shell. Do you need the card at install > time? It's easier to debug later. Unfortunately, yes .. I am hoping to do a network install. > Understood. We call them BSD, not *BSD. Ok, understood. Apologies, all :) > OK, this is looking like an identification problem. I suspect we can > fix it if you install 4.7. I'm downloading now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Wednesday, 5 February 2003 at 22:56:27 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote:
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
>> Hmm, this could be a simple problem to solve. What version of FreeBSD
>> are you using?
>
> None yet :(
That makes it difficult to get the card to work.
> I'm trying to install 5.0 -- but I'd settle for 4.x
You might possibly find 4.7 easier in this case. 5.0 has completely
rewritten PC Card drivers, and it may be more difficult to get it to
work there.
>> What appears in dmesg and /var/log/messages?
>
> I don't think these are around in install floppy image, but I'll make up
> a new floppy set and see.
No, you won't have /var/log/messages during installation. dmesg will
be available via the Alt-F4 shell. Do you need the card at install
time? It's easier to debug later.
>>> I suspect that *BSD would work if it correctly identified the card
>>> as NE2K compatible and just tried to do it.
>>
>> We call it FreeBSD or BSD, not *BSD.
>
> Well, I meant the entire BSD family {Net,Open,Free}BSD
Understood. We call them BSD, not *BSD.
> none of them actually work; though all notice the card is there,
> they just don't know what driver to use.
OK, this is looking like an identification problem. I suspect we can
fix it if you install 4.7.
>>> Any way I can force that?
>>
>> Depends on the version you're running. I suspect I know a way if
>> you're running 4.x.
>
> I'll try 4.x if it'll help.
Should do. In the meantime, I'll check how to apply the same fix to
5.0.
Greg
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Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> Hmm, this could be a simple problem to solve. What version of FreeBSD
> are you using?
None yet :(
I'm trying to install 5.0 -- but I'd settle for 4.x
> What appears in dmesg and /var/log/messages?
I don't think these are around in install floppy image, but I'll make up
a new floppy set and see.
> > I suspect that *BSD would work if it correctly identified the card as NE2K
> > compatible and just tried to do it.
>
> We call it FreeBSD or BSD, not *BSD.
Well, I meant the entire BSD family {Net,Open,Free}BSD -- none of them
actually work; though all notice the card is there, they just don't know
what driver to use.
Granted, though -- I should have said "them" and not "it."
> > Any way I can force that?
>
> Depends on the version you're running. I suspect I know a way if
> you're running 4.x.
I'll try 4.x if it'll help.
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Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Wednesday, 5 February 2003 at 22:18:50 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >>> I wish it were so. I have an NE2K compatible NIC >> >> Heh. I was going to suggest exactly that. > > :) Yeah, NE2K compatible NICs have always done right by me. But this one > is pretty obscure: its an 'Argosy EN-210' NIC. Hmm, this could be a simple problem to solve. What version of FreeBSD are you using? >> What problem do you have with (Free)BSD? > > It just doesn't configure the NE2K pc card -- doesn't assign an > ethernet device to it, but it does so for the 3com. What appears in dmesg and /var/log/messages? >>> I guess I'll try a clearance Xircom I saw and cross my fingers. >> >> Don't do that until you know what the problem is. > > I suspect that *BSD would work if it correctly identified the card as NE2K > compatible and just tried to do it. We call it FreeBSD or BSD, not *BSD. > Any way I can force that? Depends on the version you're running. I suspect I know a way if you're running 4.x. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > > I wish it were so. I have an NE2K compatible NIC > > Heh. I was going to suggest exactly that. :) Yeah, NE2K compatible NICs have always done right by me. But this one is pretty obscure: its an 'Argosy EN-210' NIC. > What problem do you have with (Free)BSD? Well, I boot the laptop and it lists off the devices in the PCMCIA slots; it correctly identifies a 16MB ATA flash disk, and a 3com PCMCIA nic that I lost the dongle to, along with a two different modems. So I'm sure the PCMCIA hardware is being used OK. It just doesn't configure the NE2K pc card -- doesn't assign an ethernet device to it, but it does so for the 3com. > > I guess I'll try a clearance Xircom I saw and cross my fingers. > > Don't do that until you know what the problem is. I suspect that *BSD would work if it correctly identified the card as NE2K compatible and just tried to do it. Any way I can force that? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Wednesday, 5 February 2003 at 21:35:32 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote: > > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > >> On Wednesday, 5 February 2003 at 0:44:36 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote: >>> I _REALLY_ want to get FreeBSD installed on my laptop, and I'm >>> willing to bite the bullet and just buy a new NIC. >> >> Just about any 16 bit NIC will work. >> >> Greg > > I wish it were so. I have an NE2K compatible NIC Heh. I was going to suggest exactly that. > that just doesn't work with *BSD, but it works ok with Linux. What problem do you have with (Free)BSD? > I guess I'll try a clearance Xircom I saw and cross my fingers. Don't do that until you know what the problem is. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: > On Wednesday, 5 February 2003 at 0:44:36 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote: > > I _REALLY_ want to get FreeBSD installed on my laptop, and I'm > > willing to bite the bullet and just buy a new NIC. > > Just about any 16 bit NIC will work. > > Greg I wish it were so. I have an NE2K compatible NIC that just doesn't work with *BSD, but it works ok with Linux. I guess I'll try a clearance Xircom I saw and cross my fingers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
Re: PCMCIA NIC for use w/ FreeBSD?
On Wednesday, 5 February 2003 at 0:44:36 -0500, Michael Graffam wrote: > > Can anyone suggest an inexpensive 16-bit PC card NIC (non-Cardbus) for use > with FreeBSD, and where I might find one? > > I _REALLY_ want to get FreeBSD installed on my laptop, and I'm > willing to bite the bullet and just buy a new NIC. Just about any 16 bit NIC will work. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
