On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:16:52AM +, RW wrote:
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:02:45 -0700
Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:32:16PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That
way you wouldn't need to use
On Sun, Feb 10, 2008 at 12:11:29AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:32:16PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way
you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the
, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD.
That's fine.
It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky
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Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD.
That's fine.
It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only
code in a library or some such just because Linux does
On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:02:45 -0700
Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:32:16PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That
way you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the
performance would be way
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Subject: Re: Some ideas for FreeBSD
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts
: Some ideas for FreeBSD
It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD.
That's fine.
It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only
code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same
brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers
Ah, something to strive for! :-)
Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who
would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD?
different words of saying the same - let everyone use what he/she think is
OK :)
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Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who
would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD?
Ted
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And I pray to stay that way ;-) .
me too.
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If you have a large market but everyone in the market is a moron and
will be calling you for tech support, your going to make less money
than a smaller market where everyone is an expert and nobody is calling
you for tech support. What is double plus good is that there's
experts floating around
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Swapping systems may have performed better when thrashing started
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
Reason # 1 to be happy with Linux: It attracts all the morons who
would otherwise fuck up FreeBSD?
I do wish people would not be happy about missing users. Being rid of
all the morons means that we are also rid of proper attention from
companies like Adobe and Nvidia.
Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having
several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most
Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition,
when you have gigs available on another, why not allow one partition to
create an overflow
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote:
Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having
several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most
Unixes, instead of dealing with running out of space on a partition,
when you have gigs
On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote:
Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having
several partitions on the same disk is standard for FreeBSD and most
Unixes, instead of dealing with running out
On 09/02/2008, Joshua Isom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Feb 9, 2008, at 4:01 PM, Jerry McAllister wrote:
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 03:51:18PM -0600, Joshua Isom wrote:
Here's an idea for FreeBSD that would be practical. Since having
several partitions on the same disk is standard for
Am Freitag, 8. Februar 2008 17:54:03 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Well, actually, these are file backed swap devices.
You can do both file and memory backed devices. this
allows you to have a swap file on the hard disk and
mount it.
As I already wrote in another part of this thread: please
--- Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb
Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to
use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use
that as
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:09:13PM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use
--- Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 04:09:13PM -0800, Jason C.
Wells wrote:
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb
Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want
to use
On Fri, 8 Feb 2008, Wojciech Puchar wrote:
It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD.
That's fine.
It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only
code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same
brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 09:16:52AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
--- Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb
Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to
Oh good heavens. How do you spell joke in geekish? I spell it md
backed swap.
Regards,
Jason
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From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
It is one thing to add support
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
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From: Wojciech Puchar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:32 PM
To: Ted Mittelstaedt
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Subject: RE: Some ideas for FreeBSD
It is one thing to add support
Even if you HAD to use files, i can't imagine that writing a script that groks
the output of the proper sysctl and creates a new swap file on demand would be
that hard.
for those usable to write simple script - there is
/usr/ports/sysutils/swapd
still - in XXI century disk sizes, even
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way you
wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance would be way
better than disc.
what a sense to allocate memory (as md is memory of
Or it's backed by a file (-t vnode, which is implicated by -f). I have used
files for swap, just to see weather it works, others have done it because
they had to.
it works, just really slow.
once i did this, and since then i always make big swap partitions, which
are still few percent of
On 2008-02-06 09:23, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear FreeBSD Developers,
I have a few suggestions for how FreeBSD can be improved in an upcoming
release.
The third idea is for more of a move to Linux and, SUS , and POSIX
source compatability in regards to additional features
On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 09:28:57 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
still - in XXI century disk sizes, even some overcommiting swap space
doesn't make a problem.
if program needs 10 or more times swap than memory, the program should be
changed to use less memory hungry
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way
you wouldn't need to use any disc space.
It is one thing to add support for a POSIX call into FreeBSD.
That's fine.
It's quite another to break a header or supply hacky 32-bit-only
code in a library or some such just because Linux does the same
brain-dead stuff and the Linux maintainers are too stubborn or
stupid to fix Linux.
don't
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Dear FreeBSD Developers,
I have a few suggestions for how FreeBSD
On Wed, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:23:28AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear FreeBSD Developers,
I have a few suggestions for how FreeBSD can be
improved in an upcoming release.
Sounds like you have your work cut out for you.
jerry
My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable
In the last episode (Feb 06), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
The third idea is for more of a move to Linux and, SUS , and POSIX
source compatability in regards to additional features supported by
these systems. I still in 6.0 run into some calls that are not
supported by FreeBSD that is a real
My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable swap
file of some sort, and via kqueue, a notification
especially with todays drives - it's waste of time to implement this.
nobody use swap FILES at all if swapping is needed unless he/she have no
choice.
swapping partition always will be
On Wed, 6 Feb 2008 20:53:28 +0100 (CET)
Wojciech Puchar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My first is to allow for dynamically resizeable swap
file of some sort, and via kqueue, a notification
especially with todays drives - it's waste of time to implement this.
nobody use swap FILES at all if
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way
you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance
would be way better than disc.
Regards,
Jason Wells
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way
you wouldn't need to use any disc space. As a plus, the performance
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and then use that as swap. That way
you wouldn't need to use any disc space.
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 08:26:07 schrieb Dominic Fandrey:
Heiko Wundram (Beenic) wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 7. Februar 2008 07:32:16 schrieb Jason C. Wells:
Norberto Meijome wrote:
But I agree with Wojciech..do you really want to use swap files?
One could mount an md filesystem and
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