Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-23 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:54:03PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02:57AM +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  Gary Kline wrote:
   Guys,
  
   If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
   flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
   pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
   linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
   still YouTube won't work.
  
   Is there an all-linix port or set of ports to use?  Or is there another
   way of getting both audio+video?  
  
   gary
 
  
  Don't pkg_delete firefox2, just install www/firefox3 alongside it.
 
   Okay; i wasn't clear on that... .
 
  
  graphics/gnash-devel works mostly ok for youtube.
 
   Maybe I need up portupgrade.  I use mostly konqueror for the web;
   things like youtube used to work, but just sometimes.  Should I
   pkg_delete the flashplugins and the wrappers?
 
  
  Just a quick note, firefox3 uses /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins as the
  plugins directory, while firefox2 uses /usr/local/browser_plugins. You
  will probably have to symlink files from this directory to the new one
  for the plugins to work.
 
   Sorry, you lost me.  Which is the ``new one''?  The only mozilla 
   plugins dir in ~kline I find is  ~/.mozilla/plugins/ .  There are
   data files (*.dat) with mozilla and firefox in my home tree.


In fact all that should be automatic even with Firefox3 (at least for
plugins handled by nspluginwrapper).  The best solution is just to rm
the files located in the ~/.mozilla/plugins/ directory then:

% nspluginwrapper -v -a -i

and don't forget to mount /usr/compat/linux/proc (well read
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
for more details).

Launch Firefox3 and type about:plugins in the URL bar, something like:

Shockwave Flash
File name: /home/kline/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
Shockwave Flash 9.0 r152
etc.

should appear.

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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-23 Thread eculp

Quoting Gary Kline kl...@thought.org:


On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22:50PM +0100, herbert langhans wrote:

Hi Gary,
ff3 should work as well as ff2. May depend on the version of the  
pluginwrapper and the flash version.
I have made up some howto, maybe you want to check your  
installation step by step:

http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl

Cheers
herbs


thanks for your fbsd how-to!  looks great, and i will try it if
nothing else works.  i have ff3  (i think that is a
Linux-firefox3 port [??] and the freebsd2, and am now
downloading the firefox-devel port.  in my opinion, too many way
to go and too little data on how to get everything working.

gary


Gary, I would recommend www/firefox3 rather than www/firefox-devel  
that IIRC is older not being updated.  I remember that someone had  
problems with that previously.


ed







On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:


 Guys,

 If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
 flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
 pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
 linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
 still YouTube won't work.

 Is there an all-linix port or set of ports to use?  Or is there another
 way of getting both audio+video?

 gary



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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:05:48AM +0100, Marc Fonvieille wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:54:03PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
  On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02:57AM +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
   Gary Kline wrote:
Guys,
   
If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
still YouTube won't work.
   
Is there an all-linix port or set of ports to use?  Or is there 
another
way of getting both audio+video?  
   
gary
  
   
   Don't pkg_delete firefox2, just install www/firefox3 alongside it.
  
  Okay; i wasn't clear on that... .
  
   
   graphics/gnash-devel works mostly ok for youtube.
  
  Maybe I need up portupgrade.  I use mostly konqueror for the web;
  things like youtube used to work, but just sometimes.  Should I
  pkg_delete the flashplugins and the wrappers?
  
   
   Just a quick note, firefox3 uses /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins as the
   plugins directory, while firefox2 uses /usr/local/browser_plugins. You
   will probably have to symlink files from this directory to the new one
   for the plugins to work.
  
  Sorry, you lost me.  Which is the ``new one''?  The only mozilla 
  plugins dir in ~kline I find is  ~/.mozilla/plugins/ .  There are
  data files (*.dat) with mozilla and firefox in my home tree.
 
 
 In fact all that should be automatic even with Firefox3 (at least for
 plugins handled by nspluginwrapper).  The best solution is just to rm
 the files located in the ~/.mozilla/plugins/ directory then:
 
 % nspluginwrapper -v -a -i
 
 and don't forget to mount /usr/compat/linux/proc (well read
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
 for more details).
 
 Launch Firefox3 and type about:plugins in the URL bar, something like:
 
 Shockwave Flash
 File name: /home/kline/.mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
 Shockwave Flash 9.0 r152
 etc.
 
 should appear.
 
 -- 
 Marc


well, thanks to all.  as of yesterday around 16:20 doing the
nspluginwrapper thing installed both a shared helix lib and a
flashplayer library in ~/.mozilla/plugins .  so now, youtube can
waste my time (ha-ha-hmph).  next i'll see if i can do other A/V
streams.

gary


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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-23 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 06:15:35AM -0600, ec...@casasponti.net wrote:
 Quoting Gary Kline kl...@thought.org:
 
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22:50PM +0100, herbert langhans wrote:
 Hi Gary,
 ff3 should work as well as ff2. May depend on the version of the  
 pluginwrapper and the flash version.
 I have made up some howto, maybe you want to check your  
 installation step by step:
 http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl
 
 Cheers
 herbs
 
  thanks for your fbsd how-to!  looks great, and i will try it if
  nothing else works.  i have ff3  (i think that is a
  Linux-firefox3 port [??] and the freebsd2, and am now
  downloading the firefox-devel port.  in my opinion, too many way
  to go and too little data on how to get everything working.
 
  gary
 
 Gary, I would recommend www/firefox3 rather than www/firefox-devel  
 that IIRC is older not being updated.  I remember that someone had  
 problems with that previously.
 
 ed
 
 
thanks ed.  now i have just two firefox installations.  [[[ ... maybe we
have too many options..? ]]]

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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-23 Thread Chad Perrin
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 03:54:03PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
 On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02:57AM +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
  
  Just a quick note, firefox3 uses /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins as the
  plugins directory, while firefox2 uses /usr/local/browser_plugins. You
  will probably have to symlink files from this directory to the new one
  for the plugins to work.
 
   Sorry, you lost me.  Which is the ``new one''?  The only mozilla 
   plugins dir in ~kline I find is  ~/.mozilla/plugins/ .  There are
   data files (*.dat) with mozilla and firefox in my home tree.

That's because /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins and
/usr/local/browser_plugins aren't in your home directory.

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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Gary Kline wrote:
 Guys,

 If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
 flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
 pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
 linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
 still YouTube won't work.

 Is there an all-linix port or set of ports to use?  Or is there another
 way of getting both audio+video?  

 gary
   

Don't pkg_delete firefox2, just install www/firefox3 alongside it.

graphics/gnash-devel works mostly ok for youtube.

Just a quick note, firefox3 uses /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins as the
plugins directory, while firefox2 uses /usr/local/browser_plugins. You
will probably have to symlink files from this directory to the new one
for the plugins to work.
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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread prad
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
 flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
 pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
 linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports,
 but still YouTube won't work.

gary,

my son just got it all to work according to the directions in the
handbook (section 6.2.3):
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html

using firefox3 and www/linux-flashplugin9 on fbsd7.1

(note they say you need www/linux-flashplugin7 if you are using an
older version of fbsd ... which would explain why i haven't been able
to get it to work since i installed 9 on 7.0 ... not that i want to use
flash in the first place since there is a great benefit to telling all
the irritating people i can't use flash which is that you don't have to
watch all the amazing videos they just discovered on the web that they
want to share with you as though they think you don't have better
things to do with your life than to watch the nonsense they think is
wonderful ... therefore, noflash = less bothersome existence).

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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread herbert langhans
Hi Gary,
ff3 should work as well as ff2. May depend on the version of the pluginwrapper 
and the flash version.
I have made up some howto, maybe you want to check your installation step by 
step:
http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl

Cheers
herbs
 

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 
 Guys,
 
 If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
 flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
 pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
 linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
 still YouTube won't work.
 
 Is there an all-linix port or set of ports to use?  Or is there another
 way of getting both audio+video?  
 
 gary
 
 
 
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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Wojciech Puchar

flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
still YouTube won't work.


for youtube - use youtube-dl from ports.

simply cutpaste URL and download file to disk, then play.
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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 02:07:08PM -0800, prad wrote:
 On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
  flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
  pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
  linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports,
  but still YouTube won't work.
 
 gary,
 
 my son just got it all to work according to the directions in the
 handbook (section 6.2.3):
 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html
 
 using firefox3 and www/linux-flashplugin9 on fbsd7.1
 
 (note they say you need www/linux-flashplugin7 if you are using an
 older version of fbsd ... which would explain why i haven't been able
 to get it to work since i installed 9 on 7.0 

hmm.  well, after my kernerl wipeout i rebuilt EVERYTHING and now
have 7.1.  (up from 7.0-pre)  ...



... not that i want to use
 flash in the first place since there is a great benefit to telling all
 the irritating people i can't use flash which is that you don't have to
 watch all the amazing videos they just discovered on the web that they
 want to share with you as though they think you don't have better
 things to do with your life than to watch the nonsense they think is
 wonderful ... therefore, noflash = less bothersome existence).


oh, i hear you.
many of the site i login to use flash [or ask you to
d/load+install it ] for commercials.  something i despise, 
but that's another matter.

youtube is just an example.  i want video mostly to stream the
pbs videos that i miss because i'm often helping my daughter with
her homework:-) ... and there are other streams too.  i just
installed miro here.  it fails.  don't know why.   seems like if
not flash, no video.  (*sigh*)  be nice if things-java were the
easiest/best way, but evidently now.

gary



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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread prad
On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 15:28:10 -0800
Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:

 i want video mostly to stream the
   pbs videos that i miss because i'm often helping my daughter
 with her homework:-)

there is admittedly some really good stuff out there.
for instance, my son and i occasionally watch classical pianists and
violinist that are available on youtube. he uses flash, but what i do
is use downloadhelper with firefox and then convert the file with
ffmpeg to .avi and then watch.

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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:02:57AM +0200, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
 Gary Kline wrote:
  Guys,
 
  If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
  flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
  pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
  linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
  still YouTube won't work.
 
  Is there an all-linix port or set of ports to use?  Or is there another
  way of getting both audio+video?  
 
  gary

 
 Don't pkg_delete firefox2, just install www/firefox3 alongside it.

Okay; i wasn't clear on that... .

 
 graphics/gnash-devel works mostly ok for youtube.

Maybe I need up portupgrade.  I use mostly konqueror for the web;
things like youtube used to work, but just sometimes.  Should I
pkg_delete the flashplugins and the wrappers?

 
 Just a quick note, firefox3 uses /usr/local/lib/firefox3/plugins as the
 plugins directory, while firefox2 uses /usr/local/browser_plugins. You
 will probably have to symlink files from this directory to the new one
 for the plugins to work.

Sorry, you lost me.  Which is the ``new one''?  The only mozilla 
plugins dir in ~kline I find is  ~/.mozilla/plugins/ .  There are
data files (*.dat) with mozilla and firefox in my home tree.


gary



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Re: flashplugin9?

2009-02-22 Thread Gary Kline
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:22:50PM +0100, herbert langhans wrote:
 Hi Gary,
 ff3 should work as well as ff2. May depend on the version of the 
 pluginwrapper and the flash version.
 I have made up some howto, maybe you want to check your installation step by 
 step:
 http://freebsd.langhans.com.pl
 
 Cheers
 herbs

thanks for your fbsd how-to!  looks great, and i will try it if
nothing else works.  i have ff3  (i think that is a
Linux-firefox3 port [??] and the freebsd2, and am now
downloading the firefox-devel port.  in my opinion, too many way
to go and too little data on how to get everything working.

gary



  
 
 On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:47:23 -0800
 Gary Kline kl...@thought.org wrote:
 
  
  Guys,
  
  If I stick with FreeBSD as my main desktop, I want firefox and
  flashplugin-9.  So far, no joy.  I have firefox2, and when I try to
  pkg_delete, I find gnome2 is just one of the dependicies.
  linux-flashplugin-9 is installed as well as the pluginwrapper ports, but
  still YouTube won't work.
  
  Is there an all-linix port or set of ports to use?  Or is there another
  way of getting both audio+video?  
  
  gary
  
  
  
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