Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
Bob Middaugh wrote: From: Brooks Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Okay i have a Dell Inspiron 9300 with centrino mobil technology at 1.86GHZ, 512MB of memory and a 60Gig HDD. Basically I need to know which of the OS from freebsd will be the best for me to use? Can i use Yahoo Messanger, Itunes, & AOL Messanger. I am just looking around as i am now tired of Windows. I dont know everything about OS but i like to learn new things and if there is something better out there i def. would like to use it. Site's with laptops and their compatiblity with FreeBSD: http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ http://www.zapatec.com/freebsd/laptop/ If you go here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html You get a list of mirror sites to download from. like this: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/6.2 If you have a decent internet connection, cable or better, you can download just the bootonly.iso and burn that to CD. You have to burn it as an .iso file so your CD is bootable. If you go this route, most of your install will be over the net. You'll have the option to pick your source, ie: CD, FTP, etc... during the install. If you download all the .iso's, then you can pick CD during install and you should be good to go. This is invaluable for you to get started: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html There's even a section on laptops: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/index.html Read the relevant sections on installing, etc... FreeBSD is not a GUI desktop, you'll need to install X-Server for that and then pick a window manager/desktop like Gnome, KDE, xfce etc... I'm pretty sure there are alternatives to AIM and Yahoo Messenger, but I don't do that so I dunno for sure. iTunes? I have no idea. try net-im/gaim from ports If you want a "live" CD that you can boot from and it will come up complete with desktop, etc... to get used to the feel of FreeBSD, try this: http://www.freesbie.org/. Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
From: Brooks Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Okay i have a Dell Inspiron 9300 with centrino mobil > technology at 1.86GHZ, 512MB of memory and a 60Gig > HDD. > > > Basically I need to know which of the OS from freebsd > will be the best for me to use? > > Can i use Yahoo Messanger, Itunes, & AOL Messanger. > > I am just looking around as i am now tired of Windows. > I dont know everything about OS but i like to learn > new things and if there is something better out there > i def. would like to use it. > > Site's with laptops and their compatiblity with FreeBSD: http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html http://laptop.bsdgroup.de/freebsd/ http://www.zapatec.com/freebsd/laptop/ If you go here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors-ftp.html You get a list of mirror sites to download from. like this: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/6.2 If you have a decent internet connection, cable or better, you can download just the bootonly.iso and burn that to CD. You have to burn it as an .iso file so your CD is bootable. If you go this route, most of your install will be over the net. You'll have the option to pick your source, ie: CD, FTP, etc... during the install. If you download all the .iso's, then you can pick CD during install and you should be good to go. This is invaluable for you to get started: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html There's even a section on laptops: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/laptop/index.html Read the relevant sections on installing, etc... FreeBSD is not a GUI desktop, you'll need to install X-Server for that and then pick a window manager/desktop like Gnome, KDE, xfce etc... I'm pretty sure there are alternatives to AIM and Yahoo Messenger, but I don't do that so I dunno for sure. iTunes? I have no idea. If you want a "live" CD that you can boot from and it will come up complete with desktop, etc... to get used to the feel of FreeBSD, try this: http://www.freesbie.org/. Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
On 14/08/07, Norberto Meijome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:51:20 -0700 (PDT) > Brooks Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > iTunes, natively, no. > I dont know whether u can run it under Wine. > I found that Amarok is a nice replacement for iTunes, as long as you don't need to access the iTunes Store, as others stated above. Songbird might be another candidat, but unfortunately nothing is currently done for FreeBSD users. Hopefully that'll change at some point. As for IM, I nowadays prefer SIM-IM, which is currently in development for KDE and offers nice functionality and proves to be pretty stable right now (considered that major version number is still 0). [...] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:51:20 -0700 (PDT)
Brooks Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can i use Yahoo Messanger, Itunes, & AOL Messanger.
I use (when forced to ) gaim to talk to people on yahoo + AOL messenger
networks. I dont know how complete are gaim features compared to the original
commercial products.
iTunes, natively, no.
I dont know whether u can run it under Wine.
>
> I am just looking around as i am now tired of Windows.
> I dont know everything about OS but i like to learn
> new things and if there is something better out there
> i def. would like to use it.
if those are just your requirements, it may be easier for you to use MacOSX.
but you don't say what has tired you of Windows...some things are similar
(closed source, commercial), lots of other things are very different.
and...some of that applies to FreeBSD too, i suspect.
Give us more info and we may be able to help you better,
B
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Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.]
--- Begin Message --- A good choice for the Windows user would be PC-BSD http://pcbsd.org/?p=download14 primarily due to the easy installation. I have quite a bit experience with it. You would get nice KDE environment very similar to what you had in Windows. It is based on 6.2 Stable and XOrg 7.2. Desktop BSD is less active project and with much smaller user base. The new release based on 6.2 Stable and XOrg 6.9 seems bit baggy. Both systems are pre-configured FreeBSD with extra GUI tools. The only difference is packing system . PC-BSD uses windows like pbi packing system as alternative to standard port system in FreeBSD while DesktopBSD utilizes GUI tools to assist novice user with ports. I would stay a way from the FreeBSD if your sole previous exposure to different Operating Systems was Windows unless you are really willing to sit and learn very intensively. This is primarily due to the fact that initial installation and PC-BSD like configuration is actually the most difficult thing for the casual Desktop user of FreeBSD. I hope this helps Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 09:31:58AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: Basically I need to know which of the OS from freebsd will be the best for me to use? freebsd is only one system, there is no "which" you can select from. Maybe Brooks Lackey was referring to choices between: FreeBSD PC-BSD DesktopBSD . . . of which one is FreeBSD, and two are modified FreeBSD. On the other hand, maybe the options Brooks Lackey had in mind were 6.2-STABLE, 6.2-RELEASE, and 7.0-CURRENT. After all, if MS Windows (which is apparently the start-point for this user) can have Ultimate, Home Premium, Home Basic, Business, and Enterprise, I guess we can have our -STABLE, -RELEASE, and -CURRENT. --- End Message --- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
On 2007-08-14 02:42, Chad Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 11:25:00AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: >>On 2007-08-13 23:51, Brooks Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> I am just looking around as i am now tired of Windows. I dont know >>> everything about OS but i like to learn new things and if there is >>> something better out there i def. would like to use it. >> >> Brace yourself and prepare for a _very_ bumpy ride then! > > Sometimes, bumps are fun, though. It depends on what you're trying to > accomplish, and what kind of driver you are. The comment about liking > to learn new things makes me think this might be the "right" kind of > "driver" to enjoy the ride (mostly, at least). Heh, definitely yes on all of the above. Depending on the "driver" and the mood of the moment, bumps can be lots and lots of fun :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 11:25:00AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2007-08-13 23:51, Brooks Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Can i use Yahoo Messanger, Itunes, & AOL Messanger.
>
> No, these programs are written by their respective vendors and they are
> released only for Microsoft Windows systems. In some cases, like MSN
> and Yahoo IM, you can use alternative FreeBSD programs, like Gaim,
> Pidgim, Kopete, and so on. In other cases, like iTunes, it may be
> impossible to find something compatible on FreeBSD.
To clarify a bit:
Gaim/Pidgin is a fairly complete replacement for Y!M and AIM (as well
as MSN Messenger, ICQ, and others).
While I don't know of an iTunes store client for FreeBSD, you can at
least get support for the Apple Lossless Audio Codec and provide an
iTunes-compatible server with software from ports.
>
> > I am just looking around as i am now tired of Windows. I dont know
> > everything about OS but i like to learn new things and if there is
> > something better out there i def. would like to use it.
>
> Brace yourself and prepare for a _very_ bumpy ride then!
Sometimes, bumps are fun, though. It depends on what you're trying to
accomplish, and what kind of driver you are. The comment about liking to
learn new things makes me think this might be the "right" kind of
"driver" to enjoy the ride (mostly, at least).
>
> FreeBSD is a *different* operating system. It works in different ways,
> it includes different programs, and it generally uses, supports and
> encourages a different philosophy, its own way of looking at things.
>
> These differences may alienate Windows users and keep them from trying
> to use FreeBSD at first. If you honestly _try_ to use FreeBSD though,
> and keep trying to "unlearn" the Windows habits and learn the new ones,
> which FreeBSD encourages, you may start to like our system a bit. It
> may even turn out that it was better than Windows for the kind of work
> you want to do.
>
> There's no way to _really_ know, without trying :-)
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Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
On 2007-08-13 23:51, Brooks Lackey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay i have a Dell Inspiron 9300 with centrino mobil technology at > 1.86GHZ, 512MB of memory and a 60Gig HDD. > > Basically I need to know which of the OS from freebsd will be the best > for me to use? Any recent release should do. The officially supported releases of FreeBSD are described in our web site: http://www.freebsd.org/ The front page of the web site includes a nice "Get FreeBSD Now" link, which will lead you to the release selection page. For your Dell Inspiron laptop, you should try to use the "i386" build of 6.2-RELEASE (the latest "stable" release of FreeBSD). > Can i use Yahoo Messanger, Itunes, & AOL Messanger. No, these programs are written by their respective vendors and they are released only for Microsoft Windows systems. In some cases, like MSN and Yahoo IM, you can use alternative FreeBSD programs, like Gaim, Pidgim, Kopete, and so on. In other cases, like iTunes, it may be impossible to find something compatible on FreeBSD. > I am just looking around as i am now tired of Windows. I dont know > everything about OS but i like to learn new things and if there is > something better out there i def. would like to use it. Brace yourself and prepare for a _very_ bumpy ride then! FreeBSD is a *different* operating system. It works in different ways, it includes different programs, and it generally uses, supports and encourages a different philosophy, its own way of looking at things. These differences may alienate Windows users and keep them from trying to use FreeBSD at first. If you honestly _try_ to use FreeBSD though, and keep trying to "unlearn" the Windows habits and learn the new ones, which FreeBSD encourages, you may start to like our system a bit. It may even turn out that it was better than Windows for the kind of work you want to do. There's no way to _really_ know, without trying :-) Cheers, Giorgos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
On Tue, Aug 14, 2007 at 09:31:58AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: > >Basically I need to know which of the OS from freebsd > >will be the best for me to use? > > freebsd is only one system, there is no "which" you can select from. Maybe Brooks Lackey was referring to choices between: FreeBSD PC-BSD DesktopBSD . . . of which one is FreeBSD, and two are modified FreeBSD. On the other hand, maybe the options Brooks Lackey had in mind were 6.2-STABLE, 6.2-RELEASE, and 7.0-CURRENT. After all, if MS Windows (which is apparently the start-point for this user) can have Ultimate, Home Premium, Home Basic, Business, and Enterprise, I guess we can have our -STABLE, -RELEASE, and -CURRENT. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] McCloctnick the Lucid: "The first rule of magic is simple. Don't waste your time waving your hands and hopping when a rock or a club will do." ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: looking for an OS and wanting to know if this is the one.
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