Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org Tue Aug 24 16:31:11 2010 Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:31:29 -0700 From: Chip Camden sterl...@camdensoftware.com To: FreeBSD Questions freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page --ZYOWEO2dMm2Af3e3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: =20 I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? =20 I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. =20 I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. =20 I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. =20 --=20 Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Well, if it makes you feel any better, it does the same thing here (truncates top and bottom). Looks like CUPS is addressing the page as if there were no unprintable areas on the page (i.e., it's scaled to fit an 8-1/2 x 11 piece of paper exactly) rather than squeezing it into the printable area. I'm afraid I don't know enough about CUPS to say any more. What are the chances that that those 'problem' PDFs are designed for a slightly _different_ paper size, and CUPS is -nto- 'scaling' to fit the actual paper size? I don't know diddly-squat about CUPS, but this sounds an awful lot like what happens when a printer has 'letter' paper loaded, but has been told that it has size 'A4' paper. Look for configuration settings in whatever is doing the Postscript/PDF rendering, with regard to 'substiting' one paper size for another. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 02:42:18PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. The LJ4050 is a great printer. The PS emulation works well and it's very smart about paper trays and input. Sort of the Douglas DC3 of lasers; I know of a couple with page counts over a million. For further information on lpd and filters, let me repost the link to my lpd article, which I really should have posted yesterday but forgot: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html Thanks. I'll be looking into lpd as a solution to my CUPS problem, since there still doesn't appear to be an easy fix for CUPS. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpyDD4yAOtEo.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 01:31:06AM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote: What are the chances that that those 'problem' PDFs are designed for a slightly _different_ paper size, and CUPS is -nto- 'scaling' to fit the actual paper size? When printing via a method that bypasses CUPS (using netcat), it prints just fine -- and does not fit within the confines of the top and bottom margins that are cutting off the content when printing via CUPS. The PDF does extend outside of what might be considered reasonable margins for something like an interoffice memo, but does not run all the way to the edges of the paper; CUPS just doesn't want to print as far north and south as the PDF's content goes, evidently. I don't know diddly-squat about CUPS, but this sounds an awful lot like what happens when a printer has 'letter' paper loaded, but has been told that it has size 'A4' paper. CUPS in this case has definitely been told it has US Letter size paper. Look for configuration settings in whatever is doing the Postscript/PDF rendering, with regard to 'substiting' one paper size for another. This has been addressed in other discussion in this thread. It is likely pdf2ps (part of ghostscript) that is doing the translation to PostScript; the other alternative is pdftops. Both of them provide a complete PostScript file, with all content on the page, but when either the PDF or the PS output of either of those tools is printed using CUPS the same problem arises. Using pdf2ps to produce PS output, which is then sent to the printer using netcat, produces a neatly printed page with no problems, however -- other than the minor problem that I'm using netcat to send jobs to my printer rather than a front end for a proper printing queue. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpB9LZu95btm.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 06:12:40PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. Me too. That's why I use lpd. I'm considering it, at least for this laptop. Still, it would be nice to know how to fix this problem for cases where CUPS is a better fit. Could you send me the PDF? sent off-list As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. Support for the 4050 series was available with the default install. I just picked it from a list when setting up CUPS. That's one of the things I like about these well-known network attached HP PostScript laser printers. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpiIekfJc5iO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:33:34PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in print/foomatic-db... And it has *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: 12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. Mine had 18 and 36 for the first two (for an OfficeJet 7310). I tried doubling them but that didn't seem to make a difference. Did I need to restart something to get that to take effect? I suspect those correspond to the margin settings in GtkLP, but fiddling with those settings has zero observable effect on printing. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp4mslQs3oLB.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 18:12:40 -0600 (MDT), Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com
wrote:
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote:
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote:
The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively.
So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and
adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to
intelligently scale the page to fit your printer.
CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic.
Me too. That's why I use lpd.
If your printer can do PS, you don't need CUPS; lpd does everything.
If you just need to convert printing output (which traditionally *is*
PS) to PCL, you might be interested in using apsfilter. It's a lot
more lightweight than CUPS, better documented, faster, easier to
use. I do use it successfully with my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, which's
PS is slower than its PCL, so I use PCL. I also think that apsfilter
keeps better to the tradidion and principles of UNIX, and it integrates
better with the FreeBSD OS.
\end{advocate} :-)
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Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 08:33:34PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in print/foomatic-db... And it has *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: 12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. Mine had 18 and 36 for the first two (for an OfficeJet 7310). I tried doubling them but that didn't seem to make a difference. Did I need to restart something to get that to take effect? I suspect those correspond to the margin settings in GtkLP, but fiddling with those settings has zero observable effect on printing. Applications should be able to get those values from the PPD. The PDF in question has a top margin of 18 points, a bottom margin of 21 points, and a printed area height and width of about 576 and 755. It fits within the printable area of most lasers, and prints fine on my LJ4250. The bottom will be cut off on a lot of inkjets due to their paper feed. For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. If it prints fine, it's CUPS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:57:29AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. If it prints fine, it's CUPS. That test worked out beautifully. Apparently, it is a problem with CUPS settings. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpcPPG7sjDYE.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:38:52AM +0200, Polytropon wrote: If your printer can do PS, you don't need CUPS; lpd does everything. If you just need to convert printing output (which traditionally *is* PS) to PCL, you might be interested in using apsfilter. It's a lot more lightweight than CUPS, better documented, faster, easier to use. I do use it successfully with my HP Laserjet 4000 duplex, which's PS is slower than its PCL, so I use PCL. I also think that apsfilter keeps better to the tradidion and principles of UNIX, and it integrates better with the FreeBSD OS. Is there much I'd need to know about apsfilter to use it with lpd? It seems to just be a filter used to process input and dump output, probably used in combination with lpr via pipes -- am I wrong about that? If that's the case, I'm sure it would be pretty straightforward. I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. I'd still like to understand how to solve the problem I'm having with CUPS, for my own edification, but whether I use the fix on this laptop in the long run or end up switching to lpd (with or without apsfilter) is still under consideration. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpkJFnHlC8t8.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 25 August 2010: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:57:29AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. If it prints fine, it's CUPS. That test worked out beautifully. Apparently, it is a problem with CUPS settings. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] It didn't work at all for my OfficeJet. Apparently that printer doesn't know PostScript, because all I got was a bunch of garbage with some PostScript commands mixed in. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpM319Oxjqdx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:27:20 -0600, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: Is there much I'd need to know about apsfilter to use it with lpd? No, just make sure to compile it with options PAGE=A4 PAPERSIZE=a4 A4=yes in /etc/make.conf if you need ISO A4 support. It is basically dialog-driven (/usr/local/share/apsfilter/SETUP) and self-explaining. Just select printer name, connection, paper, and quality. If you want to add specific GS options (it uses Ghostscript to convert PS into printer languages, such as PCL), you can do this via an easy configuration file, e. g. that's the way I got my duplexer working correctly. It seems to just be a filter used to process input and dump output, probably used in combination with lpr via pipes -- am I wrong about that? That's right; in /etc/printcap, there are references to apsfilter only; here's an example: Laserjet|ljet4d;r=600x600;q=high;c=full;p=a4;m=auto:\ :lp=/dev/lpt0:\ :if=/usr/local/etc/apsfilter/basedir/bin/apsfilter:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet:\ :lf=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/log:\ :af=/var/spool/lpd/Laserjet/acct:\ :mx#0:\ :sh: This is created by the apsfilter SETUP program, so no need to deal with this manually (but you CAN if you want to); apsfilter keeps its config in /usr/local/etc/apsfilter. To extent the example started, I have /usr/local/etc/apsfilter/Laserjet/apsfilterrc: PRINTER='ljet4d' PAPERSIZE='a4' METHOD='auto' QUALITY='high' COLOR='full' RESOLUTION='600x600' INTERFACE='parallel' GS_FEATURES='-q -dBATCH -dFIXEDMEDIA -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ijs -sIjsServer=hpijs -sDeviceManufacturer=HEWLETT-PACKARD -sDeviceModel=HP LaserJet -dDuplex=true -dIjsUseOutputFD -sPAPERSIZE=a4 -r600' HARDWARE_DUPLEX=set DUPLEX=duplex It's basically a repeatition from /etc/printcap so the filters used by apsfilter itself can be properly configured. A central file is also present as /usr/local/etc/apsfilter/apsfilterrc where you can configure recoders, filters, pretty printing and other stuff, e. g. you can just % lpr foo.png to print a picture, or % grep void bar.c | lpr to get some stylish pretty printed output. (By the way, I did switch that off as it de-arranges source code.) If that's the case, I'm sure it would be pretty straightforward. It's a quite old program complex, but yes - it never failed on getting my old printers working that CUPS didn't even support. Just try to add a parallel printer with CUPS that is currently *not* connected and therefore *not* online. :-) I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. If PS is fast enough - use it, and get rid of the overhead bloat. In my case, I intendedly wanted to use PCL as PS works, but is too slow in comparison to PCL. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Chad Perrin on Wednesday, 25 August 2010: On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 07:57:29AM -0600, Warren Block wrote: For another test, use pdf2ps and feed the PS output directly to the printer, bypassing CUPS. If the LJ4050N Ethernet is connected (and it really should be), you can use nc something like this (untested): # pdf2ps test.pdf - | nc lj4050hostname 9100 If that has cut off margins, it's a setting within the printer. If it prints fine, it's CUPS. That test worked out beautifully. Apparently, it is a problem with CUPS settings. It didn't work at all for my OfficeJet. Apparently that printer doesn't know PostScript, because all I got was a bunch of garbage with some PostScript commands mixed in. Very few inkjets understand PS. But ghostscript may have a built-in driver for it which can be used like the ps2pcl filter in my lpd article. Maybe you'll find some of the rest of it useful: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html#_adding_a_filter There are also the hplip and hpijs ports. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: I was not entirely sure before today whether the 4050N could handle straight PostScript instead of PCL, but the test I performed using nc to see if it would print properly involved using pdf2ps and no other file format transformations, so it seems PS is fine in this case. The LJ4050 is a great printer. The PS emulation works well and it's very smart about paper trays and input. Sort of the Douglas DC3 of lasers; I know of a couple with page counts over a million. For further information on lpd and filters, let me repost the link to my lpd article, which I really should have posted yesterday but forgot: http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/lpdprinting.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf (using an HP 4050N printer) This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I'm using CUPS, too, but printing to an HP OfficeJet 7310. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpTrqgGWesfx.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp7iG4wnA2Ts.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Chad Perrin on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 02:04:32PM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: I'm not seeing that here, but I don't have a PDF that prints data in the margins. If you have one, can you email it to me? I don't think it prints to the margins, per se. I also know that it's not particular to the printer, since my girlfriend's laptop (running Ubuntu) prints the same PDF just fine. I'll send the specific PDF I've been trying to print lately, off-list. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Well, if it makes you feel any better, it does the same thing here (truncates top and bottom). Looks like CUPS is addressing the page as if there were no unprintable areas on the page (i.e., it's scaled to fit an 8-1/2 x 11 piece of paper exactly) rather than squeezing it into the printable area. I'm afraid I don't know enough about CUPS to say any more. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpaZXLsEnPNY.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: I'm using CUPS on FreeBSD 8.0, and any time I try to print from outside Firefox the top and bottom of a PDF gets cut off. I don't have any means installed for printing a PDF from inside Firefox, but Webpages and the CUPS test page print just fine from within the browser. For instance: /usr/local/bin/lpr -P 4050N sheet.pdf (using an HP 4050N printer) This results in the top and bottom edge of the PDF getting cut off. I've tried tweaking settings in GUI tools such as GtkLP to try to force it to print the PDF at a smaller size on the page so it would fit within the cut-off points, and it still prints exactly the same way. I've tried adjusting margins in such GUI tools as well, to no avail. Trying to print from Xpdf produces the same problematic results. If there's a command line solution to this, I haven't encountered it. Where should I start looking to figure out the problem? Unfortunately, it looks like the FreeBSD Handbook only deals with lpd. The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. I wave chicken bones over it, and it works, mostly. The documentation has always seemed somewhat opaque and incomplete. I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this somewhere. Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpPUxpZz3VAn.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. Me too. That's why I use lpd. I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this somewhere. Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. Could you send me the PDF? As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chad Perrin wrote: On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:49:24PM -0600, Warren Block wrote: The LJ4050 is a great printer, but it doesn't print PDFs natively. So you need to find what CUPS is using to convert PDFs to PostScript and adjust that. It may be an A4 to letter conversion, or it's trying to intelligently scale the page to fit your printer. CUPS is a black box to me, filled with black magic. Me too. That's why I use lpd. I've got both pdf2ps and pdftops on the system. I'm not sure which is being used by CUPS, and I'm not really sure where to check. If I had to guess, I'd say it's pdf2ps, since I think ghostscript fits into this somewhere. Interestingly, if I use either one of these individually to translate from PDF to PS, then print using /usr/local/bin/lpr to print, the same problem occurs -- so it's not specific to either of those tools. I really do seem to be having a problem with CUPS behavior itself. Could you send me the PDF? As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=printable area#ppd_size_s How you get to that, I'm not sure. `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS thinks the page size is the full sheet. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpuR7J1L3O1S.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=printable area#ppd_size_s How you get to that, I'm not sure. `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS thinks the page size is the full sheet. It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in print/foomatic-db... And it has *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: 12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: printing outside browser cuts off top and bottom of page
Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Chip Camden wrote: Quoth Warren Block on Tuesday, 24 August 2010: As Chip Camden noted, it could be a problem with the printable area not being correct. CUPS should get that information from a PPD file--I think. Do you have the correct PPD installed...er...wherever it should be installed? Or maybe that's automatic, and you just need to set CUPS to the right printer. From the CUPS help, this appears to be what needs specification: http://localhost:631/help/api-ppd.html?QUERY=printable area#ppd_size_s How you get to that, I'm not sure. `lpr -o fit-to-page` didn't help, so I'm reasonably certain that CUPS thinks the page size is the full sheet. It appears that PPDs are stored in the reasonably-named /usr/local/etc/cups/ppd. There's a PPD for the LJ4050 in print/foomatic-db... And it has *ImageableArea Letter/Letter: 12.24 12.06 599.76 780.06 12-point margins on that printer sound about right. Mine had 18 and 36 for the first two (for an OfficeJet 7310). I tried doubling them but that didn't seem to make a difference. Did I need to restart something to get that to take effect? -- Sterling (Chip) Camden| sterl...@camdensoftware.com | 2048D/3A978E4F http://camdensoftware.com | http://chipstips.com| http://chipsquips.com pgpjbqJtl7oWD.pgp Description: PGP signature
