Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Modulok
My other concern is what happens when one drive goes down if we use gmirror? Is it completelly transparent and bad drive can be hot swapped while server is running and rebuild started? I am thinking now about gpt+gmirror (including boot and swap) Artem Yes. In fact, you can test this by

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Artem Kuchin
30.01.2013 1:01, Warren Block: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 01/28/13 21:43, Artem Kuchin wrote: I am planning to use mirror configuration of two SATA 7200rpm 2TB disks. I personally vote for gmirror in this case; I've used it a lot and found it very good wrt to both performance and robustness. You can spend the extra money you spare on the

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Artem Kuchin
30.01.2013 18:06, Warren Block: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: 30.01.2013 1:01, Warren Block: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Kraus
On Jan 30, 2013, at 8:10 AM, Andrea Venturoli wrote: You can spend the extra money you spare on the controller buying good disks; as someone else pointed out don't get desktop-class ones, but 24x7 ones. Server Class drives buy you some improvement, but my recent experience with Seagate

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Artem Kuchin
There seems to be one more advantage to gmirror If i understood correctly gmirror label -v -b split -s 2048 data da0 da1 da2 will create a tripple mirror raid 1, that is triple redundancy, which is hardly available on any hardware raid. Am i correct here? Also, does anyone know how to choose

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: 30.01.2013 18:06, Warren Block: GPT partitions should work, just limit it to one mirrored partition per drive. Please, clarify what you mean here. If only one GPT partition on a drive is mirrored with another GPT partition on another drive, head

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Paul Kraus
On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Warren Block wrote: If you want to use the same drive for booting, it's possible. Create all three partitions on both drives manually. Then mirror the freebsd-ufs partition only. The contents of the freebsd-boot partition don't change often, and swap does

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Artem Kuchin
30.01.2013 19:28, Paul Kraus: On Jan 30, 2013, at 10:22 AM, Warren Block wrote: If you want to use the same drive for booting, it's possible. Create all three partitions on both drives manually. Then mirror the freebsd-ufs partition only. The contents of the freebsd-boot partition don't

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-30 Thread Warren Block
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: Also, not being able to boot if first disk has some error in boot section or just strangly dead is not an option too. However, i was just thinking, if i use gmirror then bios does not know anything about it. I may set both harddisk as boot disk, but if

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-29 Thread Artem Kuchin
29.01.2013 11:54, Michael Powell: Artem Kuchin wrote: I guess what I'm trying to point out is that low performance wrt software RAID will stem from other things besides just simply consuming a few CPU cycles. Today's CPUs have the cycles to spare. I've been using gmirror for RAID 1 mirrors

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-29 Thread Michael Powell
Artem Kuchin wrote: [snip] The server is going to be a web server with many sites and with mysql running on it. Nothing really really heavy. Currently with run all this on our own server with 8 cores and 16GB ram and 3ware raid1 and cpu load is about 5% :) Everything is quick and responsive.

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-29 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: My other concern is what happens when one drive goes down if we use gmirror? Is it completelly transparent and bad drive can be hot swapped while server is running and rebuild started? I am thinking now about gpt+gmirror (including boot and swap) As

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-29 Thread Artem Kuchin
29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to mirror GPT partitions, but be aware that if you mirror more than one partition

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-29 Thread Mark Felder
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 08:57:31 -0600, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: As far a gmirror is concerned, yes, drives can be removed and new drives inserted while the mirror is running. Hot swap is more of an issue with the hardware. I have not tried it with SATA drives, although I think

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-29 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: 29.01.2013 18:57, Warren Block: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013, Artem Kuchin wrote: The Handbook chapter on gmirror talks about the problems with GPT and GEOM metadata. In short: right now, they conflict. It's possible to mirror GPT partitions, but be aware

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-28 Thread Per olof Ljungmark
On 01/28/13 21:43, Artem Kuchin wrote: Hello! I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good options they do not provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware for freebsd. The server base

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel Feenberg
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: On 01/28/13 21:43, Artem Kuchin wrote: Hello! I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good options they do not provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-28 Thread Paul Kraus
On Jan 28, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Artem Kuchin wrote: I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good options they do not provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware for freebsd. I prefer SW

Re: Software raid VS hardware raid

2013-01-28 Thread Michael Powell
Artem Kuchin wrote: Hello! I have to made a decision on choosing a dedicated server. The problem i see is that while i can find very affordable and good options they do not provide hardware raid or even if they do it is not the best hardware for freebsd. The server base conf is 8core

Re: software raid

2012-02-07 Thread Modulok
Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid to create a NAS device. Yes! An example of setting up a 3 disk raidz might look like this: zpool create myfancyraid

Re: software raid

2012-02-07 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 7 Feb 2012, Jim Pazarena wrote: Does FreeBSD support any type of software raid? I have an old rack mount server which has 8 bays, but all SATA, and NO raid. Sure would be nice to have a software raid to create a NAS device. Sure, multiple ways, in fact:

Re: Software RAID options

2010-01-30 Thread Mike Clarke
On Saturday 30 January 2010, Danny Edge wrote: Thanks, Glen, I should have mentioned that I did see gmirror mentioned in the HB. Pending further suggestions, I will try gmirror for software RAID 1 (yes, as large as the smallest disk). It's also possible to mirror individual slices rather than

Re: Software RAID options

2010-01-29 Thread Glen Barber
Hi, Danny Edge wrote: What works for you and can you suggest a guide? I haven't setup a BSD server in 8 years, but my environment will be: I've been using gmirror for some time, without problems. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/geom-mirror.html FreeBSD 7.2

Re: Software RAID options

2010-01-29 Thread Danny Edge
On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 11:18 PM, Glen Barber glen.j.bar...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Danny Edge wrote: What works for you and can you suggest a guide? I haven't setup a BSD server in 8 years, but my environment will be: I've been using gmirror for some time, without problems.

Re: Software RAID and Logical Volume in Linux versus FreeBSD

2008-04-25 Thread Ivan Voras
Matt Proud wrote: Hi all, I have used FreeBSD for a long time very casually but have never explored any of its software RAID or volume management features---at least to a degree to which I feel comfortable with them. What I would like to know with this post is 1.) whether there exists the

Re: software raid 1 and recovery

2008-01-05 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 10:56 -0500, Brian A. Seklecki wrote: Google: nagios + seklecki + check_raid_gmirror Also check out sysutils/smartmontools/ Also, I recently updated the plugin code to r270 with some patches from Scott Swanson. You can see a small screenshot of it in action here:

Re: software raid 1 and recovery

2008-01-04 Thread Brian A. Seklecki
Google: nagios + seklecki + check_raid_gmirror Also check out sysutils/smartmontools/ Cheers! ~BAS (Dealing with a fucked up gmirror raid 1 this morning) On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 15:32 +, Robin Becker wrote: I set this system up using Dru Lavigne's recipe, but I don't really understand --

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-05 Thread David Robillard
Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Alex Zbyslaw
Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 00:37 +0100, Alex Zbyslaw wrote: Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Ian Jefferson
I have been uable to get vinum to work under 6.0. I'm no expert though. Vinum became gvinum in 6.0 and is implemented using geom. Recently the gvinum man page has been updated and it available in 6.1 RC-1. I think if you want mirroring only you should consult the geom pages. It seems as

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Kevin Kinsey
Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives on one of them (2 IBM 9GB and 2 Seagate 35GB). From what I googled, *nix does not support the controller, so I have removed the RAID arrays and loaded

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 19:59 -0400, Ian Jefferson wrote: I think if you want mirroring only you should consult the geom pages. Great, I believe I have this setup right. I'm not sure what the fdisk issue may be with the message 'fdisk: Geom not found', but all looks to have setup properly. Now,

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Cheng-Lung Sung
You can try gmirror(8) Ref: 1. http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ 2. http://www.onlamp.com/lpt/a/6309 On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 07:24:15PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: I have an old NT4 PIII here that has a pair Adaptec Array1000 Family controllers with 2 pairs of identical drives

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Cheng-Lung Sung
IMHO, fdisk is unnecessary. I got my two brand new HDs ad[46] mirrored w/o fdisk. On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:15:39PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 19:59 -0400, Ian Jefferson wrote: I think if you want mirroring only you should consult the geom pages. Great, I

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:20 +0800, Cheng-Lung Sung wrote: Great, I believe I have this setup right. I'm not sure what the fdisk issue may be with the message 'fdisk: Geom not found', but all looks to have setup properly. Now, just to have a clear understanding, what is the purpose of

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Cheng-Lung Sung
Hi, newfs first? In my experiment, there is only one mirror/gm0s1 exists (no s1a, s1c...) On Thu, May 04, 2006 at 09:40:17PM -0400, Robert Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:20 +0800, Cheng-Lung Sung wrote: Great, I believe I have this setup right. I'm not sure what the fdisk

Re: Software RAID guidance

2006-05-04 Thread Robert Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 2006-05-05 at 09:16 +0800, Cheng-Lung Sung wrote: 1. http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ Great doc, thanks! I was able to get the first part of the 2nd approach booting from the gm0 mirror, but after booting and trying to add my da0 to the mirror, it does not recognize the

Re: Software RAID-1 - Swap partition

2005-07-06 Thread Danny Howard
John Oxley wrote: Hi, I followed http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ to create a software RAID mirror. I have two 75G drives in the machine. I allocated 74G to the filesystem on each drive and 1 G to swap. When I blanked ad1 and created ad1s1, I didn't notice that it had taken up the

RE: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-30 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Of ptitoliv Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:56 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4 Hello again, Thank you for all your answers ! I am going to look at gmirror and ccd. But I have a last question. My disks are differents. One is a Maxtor detected with a 111 GB

Re: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-29 Thread Emanuel Strobl
Am Mittwoch, 29. Juni 2005 21:28 schrieb ptitoliv: Hello everybody, I have 2 120 Go Drives installed on my FreeBSD 5.4 Box. I want to create with these 2 disks a software RAID-1 solution. I wanted to use vinum but lots of people say that vinum is very unstable on FreeBSD 5.4. So I am I can't

Re: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-29 Thread albi
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:28:22 +0200 ptitoliv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have 2 120 Go Drives installed on my FreeBSD 5.4 Box. I want to create with these 2 disks a software RAID-1 solution. I wanted to use vinum but lots of people say that vinum is very unstable on FreeBSD 5.4. So I am asking

Re: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-29 Thread Casey Scott
I have had a lot of sucess with ccd. Its pretty simple to configure. Basically, you just add the kernel device. Label the disks, do a ccdconfig ccd0 stripe size 0 /dev/drive #1 /dev/drive #2. Then newfs ccd0 and mount it where you want it. Casey Hello everybody, I have 2 120 Go Drives

Re: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-29 Thread ptitoliv
Hello again, Thank you for all your answers ! I am going to look at gmirror and ccd. But I have a last question. My disks are differents. One is a Maxtor detected with a 111 GB capacity and the other is a Seagate detected with a 114 GB capacity. Will I have problems trying to use RAID with this

Re: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-29 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:56:16PM +0200, ptitoliv wrote: But I have a last question. My disks are differents. One is a Maxtor detected with a 111 GB capacity and the other is a Seagate detected with a 114 GB capacity. Will I have problems trying to use RAID with this configuration ? Not

Re: Software RAID-1 on FreeBSD 5.4

2005-06-29 Thread Ean Kingston
On June 29, 2005 05:59 pm, Mark Bucciarelli wrote: On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 09:56:16PM +0200, ptitoliv wrote: But I have a last question. My disks are differents. One is a Maxtor detected with a 111 GB capacity and the other is a Seagate detected with a 114 GB capacity. Will I have problems

Re: Software Raid

2005-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:23:07 -0700 Philip Wege [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to do software raid setup using freebsd ? and if so where do you set it up ? Version 5.3 here's a RAID-1 howto : http://people.freebsd.org/~rse/mirror/ ___

Re: Software RAID-1

2003-09-21 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 11:15:41AM +0100, Chris Hastie wrote: I'm looking at building a FreeBSD server with two identical 60GB hard drives configured with software RAID-1. What would be the best way to set about this? Vinum or RaidFrame (which it appears from release notes / errata doesn't

Re: software raid

2003-09-01 Thread Matthias Teege
dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ones have user's had best successes with? My question pertaining to software raid is is it possible to set it up during the install or do i have to do the install normally then initiate raid? And which would be better, ccd or vinum? If I use vinum I setup a