Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-11 Thread Chuck Swiger
Jim Xochellis wrote:
[ ... ]
For some definitions of "transparent".  If the client uses the 
AppleDouble format, that wraps the resource fork and works fine 
against a normal NFS server.  Some Mac NFS implementations do that, 
some don't.
Very interesting, thanks! I would like to try this solution. Can you 
give me more info, suggestions, links etc?
I think the product was called "Hummingbird NFS", and it was targetted towards 
the classic MacOS. 





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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-11 Thread Jim Xochellis
Hi Chuck, hi list,

On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 07:59 PM, Chuck Swiger wrote:

Jim Xochellis wrote:
Hi Chuck, hi list,
Hi, Jim--

Chuck Swiger wrote:

NFS is an entirely reasonable choice for filesharing against OS X; 
netatalk
would be a comparitively better choice for MacOS 9 and previous 
versions. People who have laptops or other network roaming 
environments will probably
prefer Samba. [How's that for providing a fair slant on what each 
protocol
is well-suited for? :-)] >
What about the resource fork of the mac files.  Does NFS provide a 
transparent way to preserve the resource fork?
For some definitions of "transparent".  If the client uses the 
AppleDouble format, that wraps the resource fork and works fine 
against a normal NFS server.  Some Mac NFS implementations do that, 
some don't.
Very interesting, thanks! I would like to try this solution. Can you 
give me more info, suggestions, links etc?

[...]

TIA

Jim Xochellis

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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-10 Thread Chuck Swiger
Jim Xochellis wrote:
Hi Chuck, hi list,
Hi, Jim--

Chuck Swiger wrote:

NFS is an entirely reasonable choice for filesharing against OS X; netatalk
would be a comparitively better choice for MacOS 9 and previous versions. 
People who have laptops or other network roaming environments will probably
prefer Samba. [How's that for providing a fair slant on what each protocol
is well-suited for? :-)] >
What about the resource fork of the mac files.  Does NFS provide a 
transparent way to preserve the resource fork?
For some definitions of "transparent".  If the client uses the AppleDouble 
format, that wraps the resource fork and works fine against a normal NFS server. 
 Some Mac NFS implementations do that, some don't.  However, if you care about 
preserving resource forks, netatalk is probably going to be a better bet.

Also, netatalk and Samba are both case-insensitive filesharing protocols, 
whereas NFS and Unix's FFS are case-sensitive; there's a potential impedence 
mismatch there as well, depending on what you are doing.

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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-10 Thread Jim Xochellis
Hi Chuck, hi list,

Chuck Swiger wrote:

Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 09:11:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ ... ]
>> I would think that NFS would be a better choice between two Unix
>> systems than Samba.
>
> To which I might add that netatalk would seem to me to be a better
> option than Samba if the only client is a Mac.
>
> But then I've never done netatalk on freeBSD.
NFS is an entirely reasonable choice for filesharing against OS X; 
netatalk
would be a comparitively better choice for MacOS 9 and previous 
versions.
People who have laptops or other network roaming environments will 
probably
prefer Samba.  [How's that for providing a fair slant on what each 
protocol is
well-suited for? :-)]
What about the resource fork of the mac files. Does NFS provide a 
transparent way to preserve the resource fork?

Best Regards
Jim Xochellis
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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-10 Thread Chuck Swiger
Joel Rees wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 09:11:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ ... ]
I would think that NFS would be a better choice between two Unix
systems than Samba.
To which I might add that netatalk would seem to me to be a better
option than Samba if the only client is a Mac. 

But then I've never done netatalk on freeBSD.
NFS is an entirely reasonable choice for filesharing against OS X; netatalk 
would be a comparitively better choice for MacOS 9 and previous versions. 
People who have laptops or other network roaming environments will probably 
prefer Samba.  [How's that for providing a fair slant on what each protocol is 
well-suited for? :-)]

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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-09 Thread Joel Rees
> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 09:11:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > FreeBSD Question Answerer-
> > First of all thank you for your help and time.  I have a question about
> >running a Samba server where the server is a FreeBSD machine and the client
> >is a Macintosh ibook running max os X. ...

And [EMAIL PROTECTED] commented,

> I would think that NFS would be a better choice between two Unix
> systems than Samba.

To which I might add that netatalk would seem to me to be a better
option than Samba if the only client is a Mac. 

But then I've never done netatalk on freeBSD.

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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-09 Thread Loz
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-07-09 05:08]:
>   First of all thank you for your help and time.  I have a question about
> running a Samba server where the server is a FreeBSD machine and the client
> is a Macintosh ibook running max os X. 

I can't help much except to say that there are known issues with Samba
on OS X 10.1 and possibly early versions of 10.2. 10.2.5 and up should 
be fine, so just run 'Software Update' if you need to. 

Good luck.

/loz.

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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-08 Thread Chuck Swiger
Bill Campbell wrote:
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 09:11:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FreeBSD Question Answerer-
First of all thank you for your help and time.  I have a question about
running a Samba server where the server is a FreeBSD machine and the client
is a Macintosh ibook running max os X. ...
I would think that NFS would be a better choice between two Unix
systems than Samba.
Maybe.  MacOS X has very well integrated Samba support into the Finder; Windows 
filesharing integration is/was a higher priority than NFS.  NFS perhaps is 
easier to configure than Samba, though-- which might matter to the OP.

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Re: Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-08 Thread Bill Campbell
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 09:11:11PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   FreeBSD Question Answerer-
>   First of all thank you for your help and time.  I have a question about
>running a Samba server where the server is a FreeBSD machine and the client
>is a Macintosh ibook running max os X. ...

I would think that NFS would be a better choice between two Unix
systems than Samba.

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Samba between Mac and BSD

2003-07-08 Thread esayer1
FreeBSD Question Answerer-
First of all thank you for your help and time.  I have a question about
running a Samba server where the server is a FreeBSD machine and the client
is a Macintosh ibook running max os X. The client would have a wireless PC
card connection that runs through the same bridge as the server.   Can the
client and the server share files and devices with this setup?  I was also
wondering about how Samba was configured, is it through the /etc/exports
file or is it done differently?  Also is Samba in the ports packages tree?
Also does Samba allow computers to share devices?  Could i have a server
with a DVD-ROM, and watch DVDs on a client?  Also how are shared files
stored on a Samba network, does the server store them all and they are all
accessible to the clients, or does the machine where the file was made store
it and it's accessible to all the clients?  Also i was going to RAID
together three SCSI harddrives in the server and also have one seperate IDE
harddrive.  The three SCSIs will store FreeBSD and be the storage for the
Samba server, and the IDE will run DOS.  Will the FreeBSD boot manager
recognize DOS even though it is on another harddrive, or will i have to boot
to it manually through the BIOS? Thanks and e-mail me back.

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