Re: system admin question...

2007-10-12 Thread Gary Kline 
On Fri, Oct 12, 2007 at 04:51:55PM +0200, Mel wrote:
> On Friday 12 October 2007 02:43:23 Gary Kline wrote:
> > ((A parenthetical note):
> > In prep for this posting I finished (or expanded) my
> > mail-strip program that eliminates most of the cruft and
> > leaves the body. )
> >
> > So I'll look at bigsister, conky, nagios, monit, and Ksysguard.
> > (Mel, if you have a cheatsheet  for Ksysguard, that would be a
> > big win.)  The more I can automate, the better.
> 
> Hmm, the cheatsheet would be:
> - ssh-keygen -d => create passwordless ssh key
> - ${EDITOR} ~/.ssh/config => setup configfile to use the passwordless key to 
> those machines. A nice trick is to use CNAME/A record in your local dns, 
> with 'sysguard.machinename.local.domain' and set that as Host for the 
> passwordless key. This allows you to use keys with passwords on normal 
> hostname, should you desire so.
> 
> The rest is drag'n'drop - create new tabs for a host and drag the infomodule 
> over that you want displayed. Right-click for properties, like size and graph 
> type then save the worksheet. Once the worksheet is setup, nothing on the 
> remote machine is needed and you can set it as default, create/open new ones 
> etc. This is really personal preference. I create worksheets per type 
> (load/memory/disks) and have all machines in different tabs, but others might 
> find it more useful to create worksheets per machine.
> 

I've set up the paswordless ssh keys before.  The *rest*  of it--
especially using GUI tools--may drive me up the wall!  Or maybe
not; maybe I'm getting uesd to these graphic tools:-)

thanks, and I may tap you on the shoulder, offline! if I get wedged

gary



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Re: system admin question...

2007-10-12 Thread Roger Olofsson 



Gary Kline skrev:
	This is for the system admins out there; I brought up this question 
	last weekend, (re xsysstats, an *old* app), but got no answers,

so again:

	What are the best tools, graphical or otherwise, that I can use 
	on  a dedicated Gnome [or CWTM, KDE, Whatever] workspace that
	will help me track each of my four or five computers?  
	(((Is xosview broken?  I have it running here on this pre xorg-7.2

system.)))  xsysstats seems reasonable; are there any others?
I'd like to be able to spot any overloads of file system snafus
	before they go critical... .   


thanks for any|all insights,

gary





Nagios and Cacti are your friends ;^)



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Re: system admin question...

2007-10-12 Thread Mel 
On Friday 12 October 2007 02:43:23 Gary Kline wrote:
>   ((A parenthetical note):
>   In prep for this posting I finished (or expanded) my
>   mail-strip program that eliminates most of the cruft and
>   leaves the body. )
>
>   So I'll look at bigsister, conky, nagios, monit, and Ksysguard.
>   (Mel, if you have a cheatsheet  for Ksysguard, that would be a
>   big win.)  The more I can automate, the better.

Hmm, the cheatsheet would be:
- ssh-keygen -d => create passwordless ssh key
- ${EDITOR} ~/.ssh/config => setup configfile to use the passwordless key to 
those machines. A nice trick is to use CNAME/A record in your local dns, 
with 'sysguard.machinename.local.domain' and set that as Host for the 
passwordless key. This allows you to use keys with passwords on normal 
hostname, should you desire so.

The rest is drag'n'drop - create new tabs for a host and drag the infomodule 
over that you want displayed. Right-click for properties, like size and graph 
type then save the worksheet. Once the worksheet is setup, nothing on the 
remote machine is needed and you can set it as default, create/open new ones 
etc. This is really personal preference. I create worksheets per type 
(load/memory/disks) and have all machines in different tabs, but others might 
find it more useful to create worksheets per machine.

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Re: system admin question...

2007-10-11 Thread Gary Kline 

((A parenthetical note):
In prep for this posting I finished (or expanded) my
mail-strip program that eliminates most of the cruft and
leaves the body. )

So I'll look at bigsister, conky, nagios, monit, and Ksysguard.
(Mel, if you have a cheatsheet  for Ksysguard, that would be a
big win.)  The more I can automate, the better.   

thanks to everybody who emailed me, onlist and off; if I can turn
this into a how-to article, i'll publish it on my bsd pages.

gary



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Re: system admin question...

2007-10-10 Thread Derek Ragona 

At 02:57 PM 10/10/2007, Gary Kline wrote:


This is for the system admins out there; I brought up this question
last weekend, (re xsysstats, an *old* app), but got no answers,
so again:

What are the best tools, graphical or otherwise, that I can use
on  a dedicated Gnome [or CWTM, KDE, Whatever] workspace that
will help me track each of my four or five computers?
(((Is xosview broken?  I have it running here on this pre xorg-7.2
system.)))  xsysstats seems reasonable; are there any others?
I'd like to be able to spot any overloads of file system snafus
before they go critical... .

thanks for any|all insights,

gary


I use bigsister, from the ports.  There are versions for win32 servers as 
well, so you can monitor cross-platform.  Bigsister's output is webbased, 
plus there are alerts you can setup.


-Derek

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Re: system admin question...

2007-10-10 Thread DAve 

Gary Kline wrote:
	This is for the system admins out there; I brought up this question 
	last weekend, (re xsysstats, an *old* app), but got no answers,

so again:

	What are the best tools, graphical or otherwise, that I can use 
	on  a dedicated Gnome [or CWTM, KDE, Whatever] workspace that
	will help me track each of my four or five computers?  
	(((Is xosview broken?  I have it running here on this pre xorg-7.2

system.)))  xsysstats seems reasonable; are there any others?
I'd like to be able to spot any overloads of file system snafus
	before they go critical... .   


thanks for any|all insights,



I am a fan of KISS, I would just start snmpd on each server and then 
hack a quick perl/ruby/shell script to check on the boxes now and then 
and alert you when something is beyond a configured parameter. Maybe pop 
open a term window and display the snmpget results or something.


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Re: system admin question...

2007-10-10 Thread Mel 
On Wednesday 10 October 2007 21:57:59 Gary Kline wrote:

>   What are the best tools, graphical or otherwise, that I can use
>   on  a dedicated Gnome [or CWTM, KDE, Whatever] workspace that
>   will help me track each of my four or five computers?
>   (((Is xosview broken?  I have it running here on this pre xorg-7.2
>   system.)))  xsysstats seems reasonable; are there any others?
>   I'd like to be able to spot any overloads of file system snafus
>   before they go critical... .
>
>   thanks for any|all insights,

Ksysguard can connect to hosts via ssh, rsh or a command you provide yourself. 
Part of kdeadmin package. Various things can be monitored, including but not 
limited to diskspace, process tables, logfiles and system load.

Unfortunately it doesn't do well with passwords, so use a passwordless pubkey 
scheme for ssh.

It takes a bit to get used to the interface, but it's highly customizable once 
you get the hang of it.
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Re: system admin question...

2007-10-10 Thread Philip M. Gollucci 
Gary Kline wrote:
> This is for the system admins out there; I brought up this question
> last weekend, (re xsysstats, an *old* app), but got no answers,
> so again:
> 
> What are the best tools, graphical or otherwise, that I can use
> on  a dedicated Gnome [or CWTM, KDE, Whatever] workspace that
> will help me track each of my four or five computers?
> (((Is xosview broken?  I have it running here on this pre xorg-7.2
> system.)))  xsysstats seems reasonable; are there any others?
> I'd like to be able to spot any overloads of file system snafus
> before they go critical... .
You should check out conky:
/usr/ports/sysutils/conky

If you install this + X client on the remote computers, you can then
do
xhost +server_ip

ssh server_ip
export DISPLAY=desktop_ip:0.0
conky &
exit

Its not the best way but hey its quick.

You'll need to set
own_window yes
on the remote servers in ~/.conkyrc

I tend to run it on my desktop and set it to
on_windows no

If you have a spotting network connection this blows.

Also, checkout
/usr/ports/sysutils/monit

There's always the time honored snmp+mgrt combos

Finally, checkout
/usr/ports/net/nagios

Ticketmaster uses this but on Redhat AS 3 boo!




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system admin question...

2007-10-10 Thread Gary Kline 

This is for the system admins out there; I brought up this question 
last weekend, (re xsysstats, an *old* app), but got no answers,
so again:

What are the best tools, graphical or otherwise, that I can use 
on  a dedicated Gnome [or CWTM, KDE, Whatever] workspace that
will help me track each of my four or five computers?  
(((Is xosview broken?  I have it running here on this pre xorg-7.2
system.)))  xsysstats seems reasonable; are there any others?
I'd like to be able to spot any overloads of file system snafus
before they go critical... .   

thanks for any|all insights,

gary



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