which pkg repository with 9.1
I have just installed 9.1 amd64 on a test machine and wanted to install rsync. Is pkgng the right choice and if so is there a handy guide how to get started or should I use pkg_add -r? Is this any different for i386? It used to be that there's no i386 pkgng repository. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM, mhca12 wrote: I have just installed 9.1 amd64 on a test machine and wanted to install rsync. Is pkgng the right choice and if so is there a handy guide how to get started or should I use pkg_add -r? Is this any different for i386? It used to be that there's no i386 pkgng repository. I ran pkg and it fetched and setup pkgng. That was easy. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith st...@sohara.org wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:53:40 +0100 mhca12 mhc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:48 PM, mhca12 wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM, mhca12 wrote: I have just installed 9.1 amd64 on a test machine and wanted to install rsync. Is pkgng the right choice and if so is there a handy guide how to get started or should I use pkg_add -r? Is this any different for i386? It used to be that there's no i386 pkgng repository. I ran pkg and it fetched and setup pkgng. That was easy. Is it possible that the November 2012 security incident means there's still no installable packaged via pkg-install? I was going to install rsync. I believe it is still the case that there is no official package repository. I've gone to using poudriere to maintain a local pkgng repository. Once set up (not too hard) it's remarkably painless. To get started for the moment can't I also use pkg_add -r rsync? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On 4 Feb 2013, at 18:53, mhca12 wrote:
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:48 PM, mhca12 wrote:
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM, mhca12 wrote:
I have just installed 9.1 amd64 on a test machine and wanted
to install rsync. Is pkgng the right choice and if so is there
a handy guide how to get started or should I use pkg_add -r?
Is this any different for i386? It used to be that there's
no i386 pkgng repository.
I ran pkg and it fetched and setup pkgng. That was easy.
Is it possible that the November 2012 security incident means
there's still no installable packaged via pkg-install?
I was going to install rsync.
If you're interested, we've set up an unofficial but public pkgng format
repository at
http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng
To use these packages, just set your PACKAGESITE variable in
/usr/local/etc/pkg.conf like so,
PACKAGESITE : http://mirror.exonetric.net/pub/pkgng/${ABI}/latest
These have FreeBSD 8 and 9, i386 and amd64 kernel pkgng format packages for the
whole ports tree,
build failures notwithstanding.
You'll have to explicitly make the decision to trust or not these
builds, of course, but all are welcome to use them until the official
ones are available.
- Mark
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Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On 02/04/13 13:03, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:53:40 +0100 mhca12 mhc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:48 PM, mhca12 wrote: On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 7:31 PM, mhca12 wrote: I have just installed 9.1 amd64 on a test machine and wanted to install rsync. Is pkgng the right choice and if so is there a handy guide how to get started or should I use pkg_add -r? Is this any different for i386? It used to be that there's no i386 pkgng repository. I ran pkg and it fetched and setup pkgng. That was easy. Is it possible that the November 2012 security incident means there's still no installable packaged via pkg-install? I was going to install rsync. I believe it is still the case that there is no official package repository. I've gone to using poudriere to maintain a local pkgng repository. Once set up (not too hard) it's remarkably painless. I really think a message needs to go out on the announce list (as well as ports@ and questions@, others as appropriate) about the fact there is no official pkg repo at the moment. I'm constantly seeing emails about this on this list. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On 2/4/2013 8:34 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: I really think a message needs to go out on the announce list (as well as ports@ and questions@, others as appropriate) about the fact there is no official pkg repo at the moment. I'm constantly seeing emails about this on this list. I changed to pkgng a couple weeks ago before realizing the Security Incident was holding up binary ports. I used to install from source most of the time, and updates seemed to be required to be from source. But now it's just from source or nothing. I want pkgng to help deal with some of the cruft that ends up occurring when installing ports that have a lot of dependencies. What's really annoying to me is that a clean install cluster, so presumably secure, could probably rebuild the whole ports tree in the time it's taken to get something available. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On 02/04/13 20:55, Joshua Isom wrote: On 2/4/2013 8:34 PM, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: I really think a message needs to go out on the announce list (as well as ports@ and questions@, others as appropriate) about the fact there is no official pkg repo at the moment. I'm constantly seeing emails about this on this list. I changed to pkgng a couple weeks ago before realizing the Security Incident was holding up binary ports. I used to install from source most of the time, and updates seemed to be required to be from source. But now it's just from source or nothing. I want pkgng to help deal with some of the cruft that ends up occurring when installing ports that have a lot of dependencies. What's really annoying to me is that a clean install cluster, so presumably secure, could probably rebuild the whole ports tree in the time it's taken to get something available. I've almost always built from source since I switched to FreeBSD (I sometimes, during the initial installation, used pkgs), it's longer but more reliable. -- Yours in Christ, Joseph A Nagy Jr Whoever loves instruction loves knowledge, But he who hates correction is stupid. -- Proverbs 12:1 Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. Original content CopyFree (F) under the OWL http://copyfree.org/licenses/owl/license.txt ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:04:40 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: I've almost always built from source since I switched to FreeBSD (I sometimes, during the initial installation, used pkgs), it's longer but more reliable. I'm also doing this since I have sufficient CPU and RAM. :-) However, for systems that are low on capacity, using precompiled packages is a really comfortable way to initially install software. The traditional pkg_add -r stuff was possible for most of the available software with two exceptions: 1. software that needed compile-time options to make them work as intended (e. g. mplayer with mencoder and all codecs), 2. software that had no packages (e. g. german OpenOffice which had a pkg_add -r de-openoffice way in the past). With pkgng and the new pkg command set, not just installing would be possible (as known from pkg_add), but also updating (like with freebsd-update, but for ports). At the moment, this functionality is not provided, but it should become possible in the future, obsoleting the traditional pkg_* tools, while the use of ports, either with the bare make framework (make update, relying on SVN instead of CVS, make install, make deinstall and so on) or by the use of a port management tool (like portmaster) will of course still be possible. I know even pkgng can't deal with the two exceptions mentioned above, but it will add the binary updating and therefor make system _and_ software updates easier, especially when you're low on resources. It's also a welcome means if you need to perform an offline installation, i. e. you don't have Internet connection to obtain binary packages or sources, but you can install from optical media instead. The only problem I see (or which I hope not to see) is the upcoming Linuxism of repositories. Plural: many of them. By the use of the traditional pkg_* tools and the make framework for ports, you don't have to deal with selecting repositories. The correct files will be served. I hope there won't be a situation in the future where arbitrary or contradicting repositories free and non-free, vendor-provided, private, development, different in priority and content, will be required to be chosen by the user just to make basic things work (again). For those who have ever tried to explain repositories to a novice user in regards of a Linux distributions: You probably know what I'm talking about. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: which pkg repository with 9.1
On 02/05/13 04:22, Polytropon wrote: On Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:04:40 -0600, Joseph A. Nagy, Jr wrote: I've almost always built from source since I switched to FreeBSD (I sometimes, during the initial installation, used pkgs), it's longer but more reliable. There was a message on the stable list http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2013-February/072037.html I use poudriere at the moment which works very well ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
